Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

[GaGarazzi]

A question about Madonna's Spotify entries, maybe it is long debated or stupid, but it is the first time I notice it: why do Frozen has 14M plays as a part of Celebration and 8M as a part of the Ray of Light ("US Version") album?

Could be because of the duration of the songs. The Celebration version of Frozen is 6:19 while the Ray of Light album version is 6:07. It's only a small difference but I've noticed versions of the same track with different durations usually have different play counts. This is evident when you compare album versions to The Immaculate Collection versions to Celebration versions. This is annoying because it appears that Madonna's steams are far less, when in reality many have been split in thirds.

[Westen]

A question about Madonna's Spotify entries, maybe it is long debated or stupid, but it is the first time I notice it: why do Frozen has 14M plays as a part of Celebration and 8M as a part of the Ray of Light ("US Version") album?

Because Warner not only screwed up her YouTube but also her Spotify. Most of her songs are separated between studio albums ad GHs.

[Shadowplay]

A question about Madonna's Spotify entries, maybe it is long debated or stupid, but it is the first time I notice it: why do Frozen has 14M plays as a part of Celebration and 8M as a part of the Ray of Light ("US Version") album?

[Wayne]

Wayne can you help me with this

If sales before 1994 are lost how is OCC giving total updates on singles before that time period? Or albums?

Sales aren't lost - what I posted on the last page was that if there are two or more catalogue numbers, a known issue within the database was that sales were not being combined and captured for the purpose of this automated certifications process unless someone had manually intervened and realised this. I'm not sure if this is still an issue but it would explain the inconsistency in numbers.

But don't forget - the automated certifications system only applies to sales since 1994 anyway.

[MusicLover88]

Thanks!

[Westen]

Re: Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

Wayne can you help me with this

If sales before 1994 are lost how is OCC giving total updates on singles before that time period? Or albums?

[Westen]

Thanks to amazing Yoshie we have UK albums sales for celebration since it re-entered album chart

NEW 187 722 96% 6 623,537 CELEBRATION MADONNA

Although TIC is always charting around 100s on itunes, lack of physical copies is hurting its total sales and chart placement. I noticed that Celebration kinda started gaining more attention on iTunes this year

United Kingdom
iTunes Albums:
143. Celebration
199. The Immaculate Collection

When did it go 2xP? Wonder how much it's been selling weekly since?

March last year. It's selling 0,5k per week.

[MusicLover88]

Thanks to amazing Yoshie we have UK albums sales for celebration since it re-entered album chart

NEW 187 722 96% 6 623,537 CELEBRATION MADONNA

Although TIC is always charting around 100s on itunes, lack of physical copies is hurting its total sales and chart placement. I noticed that Celebration kinda started gaining more attention on iTunes this year

United Kingdom
iTunes Albums:
143. Celebration
199. The Immaculate Collection

When did it go 2xP? Wonder how much it's been selling weekly since?

[chrguy66]

Do we have any updated Spotify numbers or streaming numbers for RoL and any other albums/singles?

[jjavier1978]

Album: Ray of Light

iTunes:
#44 Netherlands (NE)

[Westen]

Thanks to amazing Yoshie we have UK albums sales for celebration since it re-entered album chart

NEW 187 722 96% 6 623,537 CELEBRATION MADONNA

Although TIC is always charting around 100s on itunes, lack of physical copies is hurting its total sales and chart placement. I noticed that Celebration kinda started gaining more attention on iTunes this year

United Kingdom
iTunes Albums:
143. Celebration
199. The Immaculate Collection

[Westen]

Re: Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

Great update, I'm glad they gave us both pure sales and combined sales.
Frozen and 4 Minutes are gonna be both platinum soon based on SPS. 4M very soon, Frozen probably by the end of the year or early next year.

[jjavier1978]

1 March 2018
Official Charts Flashback 1998: Madonna - Frozen
Plus there were new entries from Leanne Rimes, Robyn and more in the UK Top 40 20 years ago this week.

Frozen was Madonna's first single to debut at Number 1 in the UK, shifting 196,604 copies in its opening week. It's total combined sales to date stand at 582,353, split between 560,000 physical sales/downloads and 2.2 million streams. It's her ninth bestseller in the UK

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-new ... en__22005/

[Shadowplay]

So it sold 0 ~ 5,000 copies in 14 months?
Otherwise it would have been rounded to 3.9M...

It really slowed down: 45k in 5,5 years, then less than 5k in more than one year.

[thebigham]

I feel like it's been at 3.89 million for the past 10 years or so.

Not really.

Dec. 2016: 3,891,000, Ray of Light
March 2011: 3,846,000, Ray Of Light:

[Westen]

Re: Madonna :: Charts & Sales History

Celebration re-entered UK albums chart at #187.

Apparently it's 624,000, which means it's selling 0,5k per week (24k since last year).

Yoshie can you confirm sales for us?

[music126]

I feel like it's been at 3.89 million for the past 10 years or so.

[jjavier1978]

Album: The Immaculate Collection

iTunes:
#94 United Kingdom (+71)

[Westen]

Ray of Light would hit No. 2 on the Billboard 200, moving 371,000 copies in its first week; it earned her four Grammys and went on to sell 3.89 million copies in the U.S. (through Feb. 15, 2018) according to Nielsen Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/colu ... nniversary

The OP can be updated with the new numbers of ROL in the UK and USA, in the UK they mentioned that it is including streaming but not on the Billboard number.

It's not new number, last official update was 3,891,000, they just rounded it to 3,89m. No need for updates.

And UK number was also rounded, we got official numbers back in late 2017 when album re-entered chart.

[NoirPhoenix]

Ray of Light would hit No. 2 on the Billboard 200, moving 371,000 copies in its first week; it earned her four Grammys and went on to sell 3.89 million copies in the U.S. (through Feb. 15, 2018) according to Nielsen Music.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/colu ... nniversary

The OP can be updated with the new numbers of ROL in the UK and USA, in the UK they mentioned that it is including streaming but not on the Billboard number.

[Yoshie]

In light of the celebrations beginning, Slay of Light reappears at #390 on US iTunes. I hope the increases will continue through to the album's US launch date next week.

[belmont]

Biggest Female Boxscores:

1. Celine Dion, "Taking Chances Tour" at Bell Centre, Montreal (2008) - U$ 30.137.572
2. P!nk, "The Truth About Love Tour" at Rod Laver Arena, Melbourne (2013) - U$ 29.201.400
3. Madonna, "Confessions Tour" at Wembley Arena, London (2006) - U$ 22.090.582
4. Beyoncé, "The Mrs. Carter Show" at O2 Arena, London (2013-14) - U$ 21.119.180
5. Barbra Streisand, "Streisand: The Tour" at O2 Arena, London (2007) - U$ 20.206.906
6. Celine Dion, "Summer Tour" at AccorHotels Arena, Paris (2016) - U$ 18.428.543
7. Lady Gaga, "Born this Way Ball" at Saitama Super Arena, Tokyo (2012) - U$ 18.339.701
8. Madonna, "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Estadio River Plate, Buenos Aires (2008) - U$ 18.274.292
9. Barbra Streisand, "Timeless Tour" at MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas (2000) - U$ 18.231.213
10. Madonna, "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Stade de France, Paris (2008) - U$ 17.583.211

13. Madonna - "Confessions Tour" at Madison Square Garden, New York City (2006) - U$ 16.507.855
17. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Estádio Morumbi, São Paulo (2008) - U$ 15.462.185
20. Madonna - "MDNA Tour" at Estadio Atanasio Girardot, Medellín (2012) - U$ 14.741.104
21. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Yarkon Park, Tel Aviv (2009) - U$ 14.656.063
22. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Ullevi Stadion, Gothenburg (2009) - U$ 14.595.910
28. Madonna - "Re-Invention Tour" at Madison Square Garden, New York City (2004) - U$ 12.674.925
30. Madonna - "MDNA Tour" at Yankee Stadium, New York City (2012) - U$ 12.599.540
35. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Harbour, Helsinki (2009) - U$ 12.148.455
39. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Wembley Stadium, London (2008) - U$ 11.796.540
40. Madonna - "Confessions Tour" at Amsterdam Arena, Amsterdam (2006) - U$ 11.783.254
42. Madonna - "MDNA Tour" at Foro Sol, Mexico City (2012) - U$ 11.586.745
43. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Madison Square Garden, New York City (2008) - U$ 11.527.375
46. Madonna - "Confessions Tour" at Tokyo Dome, Tokyo (2006) - U$ 11.463.877
48. Madonna - "Confessions Tour" at CASA Horsens, Horsens (2006) - U$ 11.435.199
49. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Estadio Nacional, Santiago (2008) - U$ 11.385.499
57. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Dübendorf Air Base, Zurich (2008) - U$ 11.093.631
59. Madonna - "MDNA Tour" at Estadio River Plate, Buenos Aires (2012) - U$ 10.820.041
63. Madonna - "Sticky & Sweet Tour" at Valle Hovin, Oslo (2009) - U$ 10.481.500
64. Madonna - "MDNA Tour" at Foro Sol, Mexico City (2008) - U$ 10.428.743

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full list: http://www.bcharts.net/index.php?/topic ... nt-7184368

[RayRay]

@jjavier1978, it's not cool that you are using my avatar.
I'm fine with you using the Ray Of Light cover, but this one says RAY}|{ray, so please leave this one for me.
Thank you.

[Westen]

20 years ago this month, Madonna released with her seventh studio album Ray Of Light.

The record, which was helmed by acclaimed producer William Orbit, received widespread praise upon its release and is considered by many as her best and most adventurous album.

In 2015, on the album's 17th birthday, we spoke to Orbit about working on the record.

“It was a long time ago – can you believe it’s been 17 years?” Orbit told Official Charts. “I played all the guitars on that album, which was one of the first times I really showed that I knew how to get a guitar going. It was great to get behind an amp for once because it’s not something I do all the time.”

The album, which was released in March 1998, spent two weeks at Number 1 on the Official Albums Chart and to date has spent 137 weeks in the Top 100 (view its full chart run here). Its sales to date (including album equivalent streams) stands at 1.73 million. “I’m very proud of my work on that record - I think it still holds up today,” Orbit continued. “It still gets mentioned a lot, which always amazes me, even considering the fact it’s Madonna. I mean, you don’t just knock one of those kinds of albums out every year, do you?”

Reflecting on their four and a half months experimenting on sounds together in the studio, the producer said: “I’m not even sure the current environment would allow it now in the pop field. Something has happened to pop music at the moment. Back then, there was no fear. Now, everybody is terrified of doing something different and the music industry is stuck in a rut.”

Orbit believes there were “a lot of parallels between Ray Of Light" and the recent Queen Forever album he co-produced, explaining: "I recently watched back some of Queen’s videos, which were very cutting edge at the time, and there’s a definite parallel between what they were doing there and the mindset me and Madonna had when making Ray Of Light. We got in studio, broke all the rules and didn’t really think about the consequences.”

14 years later, the pair reunited on Madonna’s MDNA album. Orbit is credited on six tracks, but the process, he says, was almost the complete opposite to that of Ray Of Light. “All I’ll say is that MDNA was a very, very different process in all respects to that which we’d employed on Ray Of Light – from artistically, to time management, to technical approach. I’ll let you be the judge of the result, but it was a very different beast to Ray Of Light.”
Did the experience put him off working on pop music for good? “I wouldn’t mind having the chance to go in and lock out the bean counters for a bit and do something different. Right now it feels like the whole music industry is sitting in a corner and rocking itself into a coma. The pop world has become a bit toxic.

"That said, you can’t take the pop out of me. I like risk, and – like with Ray Of Light – when someone wants to make an artistic statement and be bold and experimental, that’s when it’s exciting. That's really what's it's all about."

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-new ... es-__8622/


Full chart run in UK

Ray of Light
1-1-3-5-6-5-7-9-4-4-4-4-8-11-11-13-13-11-14-19-18-19-18-16-10-11-15-13-14-21-11-36-42-52-56-57-54-36-34-33-26-15-12-8-7-7-7-9-9-12-15-11-12-17-11-13-15-16-24-27-18-20-26-31-30-30-26-23-24-22-21-18-18-19-21-22-24-26-30-39-42-61-72-80-75-77-75-67-83-92-96-98-102-103-92-99-86-86-92-138-164-174-174-162-131-145-137-135-92-77-84-105-127-111-108-110-39-23-25-45-63-68-62-69-62-53-59-79-84-88-75-70-58-40-51-58-59-70-87-109-168-196-194-145-156-123-116-96-121-196-115-70-67-107-91-62-38-63-92-119-125-132-151-183-38-30-35-41-47-60-127-184-199-63
174 weeks in Top 200.

[jjavier1978]

Album: The Immaculate Collection

iTunes:
#78 United Kingdom (+33)