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  • Originally posted by babyshower View Post
    What is it about Erotica that it makes it such steaming poison?
    Honestly? It’s a dated, rather repetitive and monotonous album. It’s not a pop album, it’s not a dance album, nor is it a feel good album. The songs are all five to six minutes long (death in the streaming era), and it doesn’t include one of Madonna’s big, a-list hits (which is different to ‘famous songs’). On tour Madonna has mostly ignored it - the only time Madonna performed a song from the album was Deeper and Deeper on RHT. Sure, she did Erotica on CT and Deeper and Deeper on RIT, but they were fundamentally brand new songs. Madonna has spent most of the last thirty years ignoring her output from 1991 - 1997, unless it’s Human Nature or Evita related.
    I have a bad feeling about this.

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    • Originally posted by babyshower View Post
      Tho it's my least favorite album, I don't really consider "MDNA" a flop. It sold a LOT based on her name alone. It's the songs that didn't do well and therefore the album lacked any legs. Which of course translated into future releases doing worse and worse.
      There own fault. I think in an interview with Madonna and Guy someone asked what promotion they were going to do and Guy said "the SuperBowl is the promotion" so clearly they either didnt care because they were focused on tbe tour or they really thought the SB was enough. Either way it had ramifications on years to come

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      • Originally posted by UnapologeticKenny View Post

        Erotica never fell into the GP's graces. The album has basically only her fanbase to stream it, therefore it doesn't have better numbers cause many don't do it.
        Yes. But the songs WERE hits at the time of the release. At least Erotica, Deepee and Deeper and Rain did very decently. Can't people who were there when these songs were played remember them and give them a Boost? It's not like it's an unknown indie record by a nobody. It's an album that enjoyed success AND she has promoted it on social media.

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        • Originally posted by babyshower View Post
          What is it about Erotica that it makes it such steaming poison?
          I wish tunes like “Words” “Thief Of Hearts” or the title track itself, could go viral eventually one day….. what a revenge this could be for this underrated album in terms of stream numbers.

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          • Originally posted by babyshower View Post

            Yes. But the songs WERE hits at the time of the release. At least Erotica, Deepee and Deeper and Rain did very decently. Can't people who were there when these songs were played remember them and give them a Boost? It's not like it's an unknown indie record by a nobody. It's an album that enjoyed success AND she has promoted it on social media.
            You’re talking about music from thirty years ago that was not aimed at kids or even teenagers. So the age of original target audience is probably over fifty now, and that age group doesn’t stream.
            I have a bad feeling about this.

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            • Originally posted by Artoo View Post

              You’re talking about music from thirty years ago that was not aimed at kids or even teenagers. So the age of original target audience is probably over fifty now, and that age group doesn’t stream.
              Well, fans who were there from the beginning are a dying breed, if those songs don't reach a new audience they will never be streamed. Let's hope the tour brings some love back, Rain deserves to be on the setlist.

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              • Originally posted by cdeolive View Post

                Well, fans who were there from the beginning are a dying breed, if those songs don't reach a new audience they will never be streamed. Let's hope the tour brings some love back, Rain deserves to be on the setlist.
                No it doesn’t, it isn’t one of her biggest hits. No matter how much I’d love it.
                I have a bad feeling about this.

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                • Originally posted by Artoo View Post

                  Honestly? It’s a dated, rather repetitive and monotonous album. It’s not a pop album, it’s not a dance album, nor is it a feel good album. The songs are all five to six minutes long (death in the streaming era), and it doesn’t include one of Madonna’s big, a-list hits (which is different to ‘famous songs’). On tour Madonna has mostly ignored it - the only time Madonna performed a song from the album was Deeper and Deeper on RHT. Sure, she did Erotica on CT and Deeper and Deeper on RIT, but they were fundamentally brand new songs. Madonna has spent most of the last thirty years ignoring her output from 1991 - 1997, unless it’s Human Nature or Evita related.
                  Yeah I call BS on ths entire post.

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                  • Originally posted by Artoo View Post

                    Honestly? It’s a dated, rather repetitive and monotonous album. It’s not a pop album, it’s not a dance album, nor is it a feel good album. The songs are all five to six minutes long (death in the streaming era), and it doesn’t include one of Madonna’s big, a-list hits (which is different to ‘famous songs’). On tour Madonna has mostly ignored it - the only time Madonna performed a song from the album was Deeper and Deeper on RHT. Sure, she did Erotica on CT and Deeper and Deeper on RIT, but they were fundamentally brand new songs. Madonna has spent most of the last thirty years ignoring her output from 1991 - 1997, unless it’s Human Nature or Evita related.
                    Erotica is Madonna’s best album but it’s not mainstream and it’s not for most audiences , it’s her most impactful album but it has acclaim it’s just the songs are too long for streaming

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                    • Originally posted by Artoo View Post

                      No it doesn’t, it isn’t one of her biggest hits. No matter how much I’d love it.
                      Hush

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                      • Originally posted by Artoo View Post

                        No it doesn’t, it isn’t one of her biggest hits. No matter how much I’d love it.
                        It's the most streamed song off the album. It would make sense to me. Deeper and Deeper was performed 3 times I believe and has much lower streams. Rain has potential.
                        Last edited by cdeolive; Sat April 1, 2023, 17:24.

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                        • Originally posted by cdeolive View Post

                          It's the most streamed song off the album. It would make sense to me. Deeper and Deeper was performed 3 times I believe and has much lower streams. Rain has potential.
                          That’s because it is the only song from Erotica to feature in Spotify’s ‘This is Madonna’ playlist.
                          I have a bad feeling about this.

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                          • Originally posted by Artoo View Post

                            That’s because it is the only song from Erotica to feature in Spotify’s ‘This is Madonna’ playlist.
                            It's also the one with most views on YouTube I believe. Seriously, it's the most GP friendly track on the album.

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                            • Monthly Listeners on Spotify

                              31/03 - 24,938,898 (-5,547) - #158 (-1)

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                              • Female pre-2000 artists with the most monthly listeners:

                                1. Shakira: 81.062.727 (-169.027)
                                2. Beyoncé: 50.641.101 (-96.022)
                                3. Sia: 47,716.519 (+ 55.354)
                                4. Britney: 32,057,004 (+21,329)
                                5. Madonna: 24,938,898 (-5,547)

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                                • Originally posted by Artoo View Post

                                  That’s because it is the only song from Erotica to feature in Spotify’s ‘This is Madonna’ playlist.
                                  It's called celebration tour and it's a celebration of 40 years of her career so it's not a greatest hits tour. It's a celebration tour.

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                                  • Originally posted by Angeman View Post

                                    It's called celebration tour and it's a celebration of 40 years of her career so it's not a greatest hits tour. It's a celebration tour.
                                    I knew when I was writing it someone would throw that in my face

                                    Question - When has Madonna ever celebrated Rain?
                                    I have a bad feeling about this.

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                                    • Originally posted by Artoo View Post

                                      I knew when I was writing it someone would throw that in my face

                                      Question - When has Madonna ever celebrated Rain?
                                      Yes we are off topic but as i posted in the tour thread shes has the lyrics to Act of Contrition. Soo who knows what shes going to perform.

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                                      • Nothing Really Matters EP first day on Spotify :

                                        1. Nothing Really Matters - 10,776,039 (+24,330)
                                        2. Nothing Really Matters (Club 69 Radio Mix) - 289,486 (+11,919)
                                        3. Nothing Really Matters (Club 69 Vocal Club Mix) - 83,710 (+81,949)
                                        4. Nothing Really Matters (Club 69 Future Mix) - 5,004
                                        5. Nothing Really Matters (Club 69 Phunk Mix) - 3,268
                                        6. Nothing Really Matters (Club 69 Speed Mix) - 3,401
                                        7. Nothing Really Matters (Kruder & Dorfmeister Mix) - 3,794
                                        8. Nothing Really Matters (Vikram Remix) - 3,304
                                        9. Nothing Really Matters (Club 69 Future Dub) - 2,551

                                        TOTAL: 11,170,557 (+139,520)

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                                        • I think that the performance of Erotica is an interesting one; the low streaming doesn't match how the album has sold as a catalogue seller. In the US, for example, I remember Billboard posting an article with the catalogue sales of her albums, and Erotica was in fact one of her strongest; whilst it was never a flop, it suggested that enough members of the general public did give it a chance once the album became detached from the Sex book and began to get reassessed retrospectively. In the UK, again, it sold well at the time of its release despite not selling as much as her other studio albums, and achieved strong catalogue sales.

                                          The streaming era is largely hit centric, and aside from select artists, albums tend not to be consumed in full unless they have been exposed to the public through classics. Erotica has hits, though none are among Madonna's most renowned ones, and as Artoo has said, the album is lengthy for an era during which the attention spans of people have dropped dramatically. Erotica suffers from both of these things despite being an increasingly important album in pop culture and one that was given more respect overtime in the pure sales era.

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                                          • 3.9M yesterday . Nice

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                                            • Great amazing update!!

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                                              • As expected NRM had its biggest day ever on Spotify…..

                                                and 139k overall is more than I expected…..good

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                                                • Originally posted by DavieX View Post

                                                  ITG celebration version and Holiday Album version will hit 100 in a few months
                                                  Oh okay, that's cool.
                                                  "Crime is increasing
                                                  Trigger happy policing..."
                                                  -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                                                  • Top 20 daily viewed Madonna videos on YouTube
                                                    1. La Isla Bonita - 403,251
                                                    2. Frozen - 104,126
                                                    3. Hung Up - 100,960
                                                    4. Material Girl - 97,066
                                                    5. Like a Prayer - 94,852
                                                    6. 4 Minutes - 91,981
                                                    7. Back That Up to the Beat (lyric video) - 70,974
                                                    8. Papa Don't Preach - 64,789
                                                    9. The Power of Good-Bye - 46,743
                                                    10. Live to Tell - 36,213
                                                    11. Don't Cry for Me Argentina - 35,797
                                                    12. Crazy for You - 32,118
                                                    13. Into the Groove - 31,991
                                                    14. Sorry - 27,703
                                                    15. Like a Virgin - 25,280
                                                    16. True Blue - 24,869
                                                    17. Borderline - 23,604
                                                    18. Bitch I'm Madonna - 21,291
                                                    19. 2012 Super Bowl Halftime Show - 20,223
                                                    20. Dress You Up - 19,447
                                                    Total views of the day: 1,787,142
                                                    "Crime is increasing
                                                    Trigger happy policing..."
                                                    -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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