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  • Originally posted by Neutral View Post
    I could understand maybe using that approach with Spotify, and other audio streaming platforms, but to count YouTube music video views in the same way just doesn't seem right to me when most countries don't even include them for charts or certifications.

    That would suggest even a song like "Adrenalina" has over 6.1 million sales just from downloads, Spotify and YouTube when less than 200,000 of that is from downloads. This would mean it has over 900,000 more sales than "Work Bitch" and even 1.1 million more sales than "Hold It Against Me"... So are we gonna say "Adrenalina" was/is bigger than both of those songs? I wouldn't anyway.

    Another example would be Shakira's Chantaje which was huge in a number of countries, especially those where the ratio isn't what it is in the US, but to say it has over 21.9 million sales only from Spotify and YouTube (not even including downloads or all other streaming platforms) because we're ignoring those other countries' ratios and using the US one and then adding YouTube music video views too is just ridiculous!
    The thing about "Make Me" is that it wasn't that big on Youtube at all, so even after ignoring and removing Youtube completely out of the equation "Make Me" would still be over 2million units only going by Spotify and other platforms (estimating a similar number for other streaming platforms combined such as Apple Music, Tidal, etc) and the pure sales.

    Streaming:
    110million from Spotify (album version + remixes) + 110million from Apple Music, Tidal and other platforms (and I was very conservative) = 220million streams / 150 = 1,466,667 units

    Pure sales:
    580,000 (Chartmasters and I honestly think it's slightly underestimated but I will still stick to that number)

    Total = 1,446,667 + 580,000 = 2,046,667 units

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    Youtube would add another extra 800,000 units (at least) but I'm ignoring it completely despite the fact the views do count for the US market.

    We all know each country has a different criteria and ratio which makes impossible to know the exact figures (we won't ever know that) but doing a rough standarized 150 = 1 formula "Make Me" would be over 2million even without Youtube.
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    • ^ I'm not even really disputing "Make Me" being at 2 million units (I actually think it's probably around that number too), and like you said anyway it wasn't very big on YouTube so that wouldn't even drastically change its overall total, but if you calculate worldwide sales for "Make Me" this way then you also have to apply the same rules to every song for every artist and that's when it starts to get messy especially when you have a song that is a monster on YouTube and huge on Spotify etc. too because you end up with crazy numbers like with "Chantaje". How many 15M+ and 20M+ or even 30M selling songs would people like Shakira, Maluma and other Latin American artists end up with then?

      Let's use Despacito, the most viewed music video on YouTube as a more extreme example. With these same rules that song would have over 48 million sales just from YouTube, then Spotify adds another 16 million, so now we're up to 64 million sales just from YouTube and Spotify alone. I mean...

      Like you guys said, it's impossible to know exact numbers from every country but estimating worldwide sales this way ain't it lol. It just leads to massive inflation as well as minor hits or flops looking more successful than moderate or even big hits.

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      • Originally posted by Neutral View Post
        but if you calculate worldwide sales for "Make Me" this way then you also have to apply the same rules to every song for every artist
        Of course, no one was saying otherwise and I don't have an issue with it.

        Youtube could be controversial and should be given less weight IMO but at least in the US that hasn't happened so far. Either way this is why I calculated Make Me's numbers excluding Youtube completely.
        Britney Spears . Michael Jackson . Madonna . Metallica . Radiohead . Led Zeppelin . Oasis . Beyoncé . Soda Stereo

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        • I do agree that YouTube views can lead to massive inflation. "Pretty Girls" is a good example of this...

          Pretty Girls
          Spotify - 55,362,121
          YouTube - 180,742,518
          Total: 1,574,030 streaming equivalents

          Make Me...
          Spotify - 111,342,361
          YouTube - 121,893,847
          Total: 1,554,908 streaming equivalents


          "Make Me..." was obviously bigger, though. I just wish there was a more accurate way of estimating single sales nowadays. I don't think YouTube should be excluded entirely but it should be given less weight than audio streams. The IFPI does count video streams but I'm not sure what their ratio is. Estimating streams from each individual country just doesn't cut it.
          Last edited by Instinct; Wed January 29th, 2020, 04:43.

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          • SPOTIFY WEEKLY UPDATE

            1. Toxic 376,061,093 (+2,230,859)

            2. ...Baby One More Time 264,588,738 (+1,422,052)

            3. Oops!... I Did It Again 255,173,027 (+1,565,442)

            4. Womanizer 177,232,951 (+1,095,288)

            5. Work Bitch 166,329,111 (+592,712)

            6. Make Me... 105,846,842 (+133,844)

            7. Circus 92,994,990 (+556,440)

            8. Gimme More 90,231,317 (+651,728)

            9. Till The World Ends 89,748,194 (+272,024)

            10. I’m a Slave 4 69,050,244 (+371,457)

            11. I Wanna Go 66,703,622 (+250,608)

            12. Everytime 65,495,909 (+294,723)

            13. Sometimes 63,352,847 (+492,216)

            14. Piece of Me 60,261,174 (+272,890)

            15. (You Drive Me) Crazy 60.022.046 (+277,589)

            16. Criminal 58,477,070 (+441,181)

            17. Stronger 56,723,109 (+322,093)

            18. Pretty Girls 55,362,121 (+129,164)

            19. Lucky 53,491,341 (+304.004)

            20.Slumber Party 53,372,197 (+112,117)

            21. If U Seek Amy 51,485,244 (+258,312)

            22. 3 46,680,364 (+216,349)

            23. Hold It Against Me 43,449,368 (+129,125)

            24. Overprotected 32,776,330 (+164,448)

            25. Radar 29,295,738 (+124,453)

            26. Perfume 27,391,220 (+85,596)

            27. Break The Ice 26,914,418 (+140,205)

            28. I’m Not a Girl, Not Yet a Woman 25,618,845 (+121,100)

            29. Me Against The Music 24,962,432 (+127,966)

            30. Born To Make You Happy 24,504,124 (+104,400)

            BONUS
            Scream & Shout 302,949,562 (+971,201)

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            • Originally posted by Neutral View Post
              ^ I'm not even really disputing "Make Me" being at 2 million units (I actually think it's probably around that number too), and like you said anyway it wasn't very big on YouTube so that wouldn't even drastically change its overall total, but if you calculate worldwide sales for "Make Me" this way then you also have to apply the same rules to every song for every artist and that's when it starts to get messy especially when you have a song that is a monster on YouTube and huge on Spotify etc. too because you end up with crazy numbers like with "Chantaje". How many 15M+ and 20M+ or even 30M selling songs would people like Shakira, Maluma and other Latin American artists end up with then?

              Let's use Despacito, the most viewed music video on YouTube as a more extreme example. With these same rules that song would have over 48 million sales just from YouTube, then Spotify adds another 16 million, so now we're up to 64 million sales just from YouTube and Spotify alone. I mean...

              Like you guys said, it's impossible to know exact numbers from every country but estimating worldwide sales this way ain't it lol. It just leads to massive inflation as well as minor hits or flops looking more successful than moderate or even big hits.
              On IFPI’s 2018 report Despacito was #2 with 24.3M units.
              On IFPI’s 2019 report, it was #6 with 11.8M.

              So 36.1M “sold” in 2017 and 2018 worldwide according to IFPI.
              Probably at 40M by now.
              With YouTube and all audio streaming platforms.

              Which confirms that, while IFPI uses YouTube streams and they have a ratio for worldwide streaming, it’s definitely not 1/150.
              Using US ratio to convert streams into worldwide units will always give you inflated numbers.

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              • Thanks for those numbers nympho. Even though "Despacito" is an extreme example it's a good one especially when we have official IFPI numbers for comparison. It would be great to know their method and what ratios are used to get a worldwide total but I guess we'll never have that information and it really is impossible for us to make worldwide estimations without it.

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                • "Womanizer" keeps getting healthy +1million weekly updates on Spotify, It should hit 200million in about 5 months. The "Circus" (song) will hit 100million in about 3 months and will make of "Circus" her first album with two +100million songs.
                  Britney Spears . Michael Jackson . Madonna . Metallica . Radiohead . Led Zeppelin . Oasis . Beyoncé . Soda Stereo

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                  • Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
                    "Womanizer" keeps getting healthy +1million weekly updates on Spotify, It should hit 200million in about 5 months. The "Circus" (song) will hit 100million in about 3 months and will make of "Circus" her first album with two +100million songs.
                    Womanizer is slowly becoming huge in streams like Toxic and BOMT. It has been doing well on YouTube lately too.
                    Britney - Poppy - Mariah - Lana - Gaga - Bjork

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                    • Originally posted by Artsy View Post

                      Womanizer is slowly becoming huge in streams like Toxic and BOMT. It has been doing well on YouTube lately too.
                      Yeah, it is by now one of her career highlight songs.

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                      - "Britney (2001 album)" will hit 200million on Spotify in less than 4 months (finally distancing from its unfavourbale position of being her only album below 200m)
                      - "Glory" will hit 300million on Spotify in about 4 months
                      - "Circus" will hit 400million on Spotify in about 4,5 months

                      "Circus" and "Gimme More" will be new 100million tracks by this summer while "In The Zone" and "Till The World Ends (album version)" will hit 600million and 100million respectively by the Q3 and Q4 of this year.

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                      • BTW, "Criminal" is really the big winner from the FF era. It was always a favorite of mine and I hated the way it was overlooked back in 2011 but justice was made and now it's FF's top reigning single at this moment just like it deserves, I just love it when stuff like this end up happening.

                        FF's singles weekly / daily streams:

                        Spotify Weekly

                        1. Criminal - 441,181
                        2. Till The World Ends - 272,024
                        3. I Wanna Go - 250,608
                        4. Hold It Againat Me - 129,125

                        Youtube Daily

                        1. Criminal - 62,284
                        2. I Wanna Go - 24,624
                        3. Till The World Ends - 16,292
                        4. Hold It Against Me - 9,218

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                        "Criminal" is pulling nearly 900K streams a week between Spotify and Youtube alone and God knows how much after adding other streaming platforms. Just for comparison IWG is pulling 422K streams a week from Spotify and Youtube, while TTWE and HIAM are pulling 386K and 193K streams a week respectively in those mentioned platforms.

                        "Criminal" won.
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                        • "Criminal" truly won! Not only did it end up being the most remembered single from "Femme Fatale", but it's also outstreaming many hits from 2011 lately. I wonder if it's eligible for platinum in the US or at least close? It will certainly get there eventually.

                          According to YouTube, it is her fourth most viewed video of the past 12 months in the US with 9 million views.

                          And also 3rd globally with over 65 million views

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                            • Wow I think I just found out that both the album and the song went #1 simultaneously iconic

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                              • Originally posted by Instinct View Post
                                but it's also outstreaming many hits from 2011 lately.
                                Yeah it is indeed. Which is surprising considering it’s low profile in 2011.

                                Originally posted by Enzolorenzo View Post
                                Wow I think I just found out that both the album and the song went #1 simultaneously iconic
                                What I like the most about it is that it went Diamond and sold like that on the back of just 4 US singles, it was an organic and effortless Diamond album which didn’t need 8 singles, multiple #1 songs and Re-releases to go as high as 14x Platinum. It was simple yet huge. (Same for OIDIA).

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                                • # ALBUM WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS
                                  01 (=) In the Zone 2,903,256 1,45% 515,880,902
                                  02 (=) Oops!...I Did It Again 2,357,567 1,53% 399,787,901
                                  03 (=) ...Baby One More Time 2,334,008 3,87% 412,409,849
                                  04 (=) Circus 2,061,489 3,03% 365,735,051
                                  05 (=) Blackout 1,369,596 2,95% 252,493,330
                                  06 (=) Femme Fatale 1,223,159 0,93% 321,326,521
                                  07 (=) Britney 876,841 -0,97% 187,616,238
                                  08 (=) Britney Jean 715,638 1,91% 244,470,083
                                  09 (=) Glory 510,626 0,27% 292,535,281
                                  "Oops!...I Did It Again" will hit 400 million streams tomorrow.
                                  Last edited by Instinct; Fri February 7th, 2020, 14:42.

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                                  • those numbers
                                    Britney - Poppy - Mariah - Lana - Gaga - Bjork

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                                    • New Toxic remix is released on Spotify



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                                      • Oh it’s actually been released on Spotify by her and on her main account page! Wonder if that will boost toxics overall streams now

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                                        • The remix has been released to iTunes whoop

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                                          • Toxic
                                            iTunes:
                                            #104 Denmark
                                            #149 Austria
                                            #175 Spain
                                            #229 France
                                            #249 Germany
                                            #272 Mexico
                                            #432 United Kingdom
                                            #482 Canada
                                            #496 United States

                                            Apple Music:
                                            #1219 United Kingdom

                                            thanks to the remix
                                            Britney - Poppy - Mariah - Lana - Gaga - Bjork

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                                            • "Oops!...I Did It Again" (album) has now surpassed 400 million streams on Spotify!

                                              As far as I know, these are the most streamed albums from the year 2000 on Spotify. Feel free to add any.

                                              1. Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory – 1,736,114,341
                                              2. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP – 1,336,527,789
                                              3. Coldplay - Parachutes – 1,081,593,176
                                              4. Shaggy - Hot Shot - 627,454,448
                                              5. Limp Bizkit - Chocolate Starfish And The Hot Dog Flavored Water – 610,866,182
                                              6. Papa Roach - Infest – 550,947,372
                                              7. NSYNC - No Strings Attached – 481,927,633
                                              8. Britney Spears - Oops!...I Did It Again – 400,170,003
                                              9. Nelly - Country Grammar – 386,040,726
                                              10. U2 - All That You Can't Leave Behind – 361,697,965

                                              2000 was a year heavily dominated by male artists and bands. Britney is the only woman inside the Top 10.

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                                              • Thanks for that info Instinct, maybe there could be some more albums to add to the list but they'll probably be by male artists or bands, I doubt there's any other female who did better than Britney with material released that year.

                                                "Oops I Did it Again" is the most impactful female album and era from that year and "Oops I Did It Again (single)" is easily the most famous female song from the year 2000 as of today.
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                                                • January 2020 streams: Spotify

                                                  Singles
                                                  1. Toxic – 9,644,108
                                                  2. Oops!...I Did It Again – 6,695,956
                                                  3. ...Baby One More Time – 6,076,796
                                                  4. Womanizer – 4,716,710
                                                  5. Scream & Shout – 4,383,138
                                                  6. Gimme More – 2,796,688
                                                  7. Work Bitch – 2,555,143
                                                  8. Circus – 2,275,188
                                                  9. Sometimes – 2,083,114
                                                  10. Criminal – 1,960,606
                                                  11. I'm a Slave 4 U – 1,577,287
                                                  12. Stronger – 1,399,482
                                                  13. Lucky – 1,289,645
                                                  14. Everytime – 1,286,207
                                                  15. Till the World Ends – 1,219,360
                                                  16. (You Drive Me) Crazy – 1,167,742
                                                  17. Piece of Me – 1,161,525
                                                  18. If U Seek Amy – 1,107,797
                                                  19. I Wanna Go – 1,080,522

                                                  Albums
                                                  1. In the Zone – 12,473,681
                                                  2. Oops!...I Did It Again – 10,055,729
                                                  3. ...Baby One More Time – 9,775,955
                                                  4. Circus – 8,668,831
                                                  5. Blackout – 5,797,752
                                                  6. Femme Fatale – 5,376,503
                                                  7. Britney – 3,776,026
                                                  8. Britney Jean – 3,064,833
                                                  9. Glory – 2,236,540

                                                  Britney's main studio albums got a total of 61,225,850 streams last month. Overall, her discography was streamed 70,204,937 times.

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                                                  • Based on those streaming numbers from Spotify and YouTube, I think we can elect both "Perfume" and "Do Somethin'" the biggest flops in Britney's career, right?

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