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    P!nk's 9th studio album out on Feb 17,2023
    Last.fm

  • #2
    Where did the Pink fans on this forum went? New single from a potential new album and no new thread and not even a mention on her general charts & sales thread...


    Never Gonna Not Dance Again
    iTunes (9x #1):
    #1 Australia (=)
    #1 Belgium (+6)
    #1 Canada (+39)
    #1 Germany (+24)
    #1 New Zealand (+3)
    #1 Norway (NE)
    #1 United Kingdom (+2)
    #3 France (+48)
    #3 Ireland (+62)
    #3 Netherlands (+2)
    #3 Switzerland (+26)
    #5 Austria (NE)
    #5 United States (+63)
    #13 Spain (+44)
    #14 Mexico (+30)
    #14 South Africa (+42)
    #16 Brazil (NE)
    #16 United Kingdom (+8)
    #17 Australia (+1)
    #17 Denmark (NE)
    #18 Netherlands (+4)
    #23 Hong Kong (+19)
    #23 Ireland (NE)
    #25 Canada (NE)
    #30 United States (NE)
    #46 Austria (NE)
    #48 South Africa (+7)
    #52 Brazil (NE)
    #54 Thailand (NE)
    #55 Italy (+15)
    #63 Italy (-15)
    #71 Singapore (NE)
    #72 Switzerland (NE)
    #75 Belgium (-46)
    #84 Germany (NE)

    #4 on Spotify's NMF.
    Let's see where it debuts today on Spotify's charts.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by nympho View Post
      Where did the Pink fans on this forum went? New single from a potential new album and no new thread and not even a mention on her general charts & sales thread...
      #4 on Spotify's NMF.
      Let's see where it debuts today on Spotify's charts.
      Not Top 200 on WW Spotify today. Although tbf, it's a pretty competitive Friday bc of Drake. Does she have any good playlisting besides NMF?


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      • #4
        Not even top 200 in UK and Australia either…
        Even with Drake and Taylor songs, I was expecting it at least to debut on Top 200.

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        • #5
          680,875 streams on Spotify on Friday (+15,641 from Asia/Aus/NZ in its first 12/13 hours = 696,516. I guess she was much further from the Top 200 than I expected. Thought it'd be like 900K.


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          • #6
            Originally posted by nympho View Post
            Where did the Pink fans on this forum went? New single from a potential new album and no new thread and not even a mention on her general charts & sales thread...

            There is a topic about the new single:

            https://www.ukmix.org/forum/music/so...ot-dance-again
            Prayed through the nights, Felt so alone, Suffered from alienation, Carried the weight on my own, Had to be strong, So I believed, And now I know I've succeeded in finding the place I conceived, I had a vision of love...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RayRay View Post

              There is a topic about the new single:

              https://www.ukmix.org/forum/music/so...ot-dance-again
              I know. But not in the charts analysis section.

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              • #8
                Very surprised at how low the first day streams are, I guess the fact everything has sounded basically the same for 12 years has caught up to her.

                worse than all of her pairs last leads I think?

                this isn’t the Pink people want obviously.

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                • #9


                  Second biggest gainer on the radio

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                  • #10
                    Apple Music:

                    #32 Austria (+18)
                    #36 Germany (+5)
                    #40 Switzerland (+6)
                    #63 United Kingdom (NE)
                    #65 Ireland (+18)
                    #87 Australia (NE)

                    is coming...

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                    • #11
                      Spotify streams for Never Not Gonna Dance Again

                      First 12/13 hours - 15,641
                      Friday - 680,875
                      Saturday - 497,414

                      Total: 1,193,930

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                      • #12
                        Mediabase USA

                        HOT AC:
                        -- 23 P!NK Never Gonna Not Dance Again 967 0 +967 5.537

                        +236 Spins
                        +236 Bullet
                        +1.120 Audience

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                        • #13


                          4th biggest gainer

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                          • #14
                            The song was added to two big playlists yesterday. "It's a Hit" with 2.3M followers (#13) and Mood Booster with 7.3M (#76). Let's see if it has any significant impact on the streams.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Instinct View Post
                              Spotify streams for Never Not Gonna Dance Again

                              First 12/13 hours - 15,641
                              Friday - 680,875
                              Saturday - 497,414

                              Total: 1,193,930
                              Are those worldwide numbers?
                              Cha Cha Instructor

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by spiritboy View Post

                                Are those worldwide numbers?
                                Yep.

                                First 12/13 hours - 15,641
                                Friday - 680,875
                                Saturday - 497,414
                                Sunday - 421,635

                                Total: 1,615,565

                                Expected worse for a Sunday. The new playlists probably helped a bit.


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                                • #17
                                  Will be interesting to see if she can get another hit!
                                  Britney, X-tina, Lana, Janet, Spice Girls, Kylie, Dannii

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                                  • #18
                                    UK Midweeks (Monday)
                                    33 (New) Never Gonna Not Dance Again

                                    Pretty high considering it's not Top 200 on Spotify...
                                    Let's see if it can stay in Top 40 til Friday.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by nympho View Post
                                      UK Midweeks (Monday)
                                      33 (New) Never Gonna Not Dance Again

                                      Pretty high considering it's not Top 200 on Spotify...
                                      Let's see if it can stay in Top 40 til Friday.
                                      Yeah, this is shocking. Good for her though! I didn't think it would be that high on the midweeks.

                                      I wanna say it's because of downloads, but they can't be that strong if it's already out of the Top 10 on iTunes. Although there's another version in the Top 30.

                                      Amazon seems to be the 2nd biggest streaming service in the UK from what I've seen, and I can't find the song anywhere in the Top 200. It's #63 on Apple.


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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Instinct View Post
                                        Yeah, this is shocking. Good for her though! I didn't think it would be that high on the midweeks.

                                        I wanna say it's because of downloads, but they can't be that strong if it's already out of the Top 10 on iTunes. Although there's another version in the Top 30.

                                        Amazon seems to be the 2nd biggest streaming service in the UK from what I've seen, and I can't find the song anywhere in the Top 200. It's #63 on Apple.
                                        Considering it was #1 on iTunes on Friday and Saturday, and that those are Monday midweeks (meaning most streaming data missing from Sunday)... I guess it'll fall during the week.
                                        Also, take into account that because of the 3 song rule in UK, all those Drake and Taylor songs charting on streaming platforms aren't counted for official charts, plus songs on ACR...

                                        Let's see where it is on tomorrow Wednesday's midweeks to have a clearer picture of where it could end by Friday.

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                                        • #21
                                          Never Gonna Not Dance Again on Spotify

                                          First 12/13 hours - 15,641
                                          Friday - 680,875
                                          Saturday - 497,414
                                          Sunday - 421,635
                                          Monday - 419,383

                                          Total: 2,034,948

                                          The new playlists have helped stabilize it a bit, but the fact it's still getting less than 500K streams is worrying. I thought it'd for sure increase from Sunday.

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                                          • #22
                                            I read this on the P!nk Shread forum. What do you think?

                                            https://pinkshread.net/post/54770



                                            Right, so here's the thing: you need to have realistic expectations and take into account the huge change in charts since P!nk properly launched a new era, especially with singles.

                                            iTunes sales have taken a nosedive yet streaming numbers are overwhelmingly huge for most current acts. P!nk's audience in somewhere in the middle, leaning more towards buying and the metrics unfortunately favor streaming so it is a very, very safe assumption that she will probably never get a Top 10/20 hit on the singles chart unless it's a complete viral fluke accident.

                                            She's doing well on radio it seems, Hot Adult Contemporary always has her back, but that doesn't mean much in 2022. NGNDA was added to all HAC stations today on impact date.

                                            On the flipside of all of this, RCA is perhaps the worst major label right now. If you check their roster, you will see that very few of their artists have had a hit in the past few years. They don't do good with giving fans limited edition physical singles, merch drops, a proper artist store with digital versions to buy (explicit, clean, instrumental). Imagine having so many elements to play with visually for this record, yet they didn't think to produce a Vicious ******* Chips'es merch line, a limited edition rollerskate custom die-cut 7" vinyl, collectible CD singles with cover variants, etc. They are SO traditional with their approach and it is just not it. They don't even have shipping points set up for the artists in different territories, it all comes from the US and those sales are not chart-eligible + VERY high shipping and import tax fees.

                                            Even pointed out by Max to me earlier, she is teasing that the behind the scenes video will be dropping on Facebook today. FACEBOOK. IN 2022.

                                            I pray the album pre-order goes live soon because God knows she needs every minute of pre-orders before the actual release date. They also need vinyl variants, a Spotify First vinyl, AT LEAST a standard and deluxe CD (cover variants would be better), a cassette, a box set, a t-shirt bundle for Target, signed art cards only available with bundles of 3+ formats, etc. ANYTHING to get sales.


                                            She has a strong core fanbase and they never take advantage of that. Proof is the AIKSF zine, that sold out fast with minimal promo despite being priced at $40 with very high international shipping charges.

                                            I digress, but I think you get the point. She has moved from a chart competing artist to more of a legendary status that sells albums and tours. I'd start worrying when her albums don't sell/chart well.

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                                            • #23
                                              Originally posted by antoniojunior View Post
                                              I read this on the P!nk Shread forum. What do you think?

                                              https://pinkshread.net/post/54770


                                              iTunes sales have taken a nosedive yet streaming numbers are overwhelmingly huge for most current acts. P!nk's audience in somewhere in the middle, leaning more towards buying and the metrics unfortunately favor streaming so it is a very, very safe assumption that she will probably never get a Top 10/20 hit on the singles chart unless it's a complete viral fluke accident.

                                              She's doing well on radio it seems, Hot Adult Contemporary always has her back, but that doesn't mean much in 2022. NGNDA was added to all HAC stations today on impact date.
                                              Wasnt CMIS big hit except us & UK ? 300m streams in sptify.

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                                              • #24
                                                Never Gonna Not Dance Again on Spotify

                                                First 12/13 hours - 15,641
                                                Friday - 680,875
                                                Saturday - 497,414
                                                Sunday - 421,635
                                                Monday - 419,383
                                                Tuesday - 406,661

                                                Total: 2,441,609

                                                Well... it's not looking great so far. The playlisting is actually half decent.

                                                Biggest playlists:
                                                Mood Boster - 7.3M (#65)
                                                New Music Friday - 3.98M (#5)
                                                Pop Rising - 2.72M (#18)
                                                Just Hits - 2.6M (#12)
                                                It's a Hit! - 2.3M (#13)
                                                Daily Lift - 2.02M (#88)
                                                Novidades da Semana - 1.8M (#13)
                                                Singled Out - 851K (#10)
                                                New Music Friday UK - 816K (#8)
                                                Just Good Music - 796K (#1)
                                                Novedades Viernes MX - 727K (#25)
                                                The Pop List - 725K (#10)
                                                New Music Friday Deutschland - 724K (#10)
                                                New Music Friday Philippines - 670K (#11)
                                                Internacionais 2022 Internacionais Mais Tocadas 2022 - 602K (#14)
                                                All New All Now - 534K (#1)
                                                HITS 2022 - 505K (#5)
                                                Pop All Day - 496K (#7)
                                                Pop Brandneu - 469K (#4)

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                                                • #25
                                                  Originally posted by Instinct View Post
                                                  Never Gonna Not Dance Again on Spotify

                                                  First 12/13 hours - 15,641
                                                  Friday - 680,875
                                                  Saturday - 497,414
                                                  Sunday - 421,635
                                                  Monday - 419,383
                                                  Tuesday - 406,661

                                                  Total: 2,441,609

                                                  Well... it's not looking great so far. The playlisting is actually half decent.

                                                  Biggest playlists:
                                                  Mood Boster - 7.3M (#65)
                                                  New Music Friday - 3.98M (#5)
                                                  Pop Rising - 2.72M (#18)
                                                  Just Hits - 2.6M (#12)
                                                  It's a Hit! - 2.3M (#13)
                                                  Daily Lift - 2.02M (#88)
                                                  Novidades da Semana - 1.8M (#13)
                                                  Singled Out - 851K (#10)
                                                  New Music Friday UK - 816K (#8)
                                                  Just Good Music - 796K (#1)
                                                  Novedades Viernes MX - 727K (#25)
                                                  The Pop List - 725K (#10)
                                                  New Music Friday Deutschland - 724K (#10)
                                                  New Music Friday Philippines - 670K (#11)
                                                  Internacionais 2022 Internacionais Mais Tocadas 2022 - 602K (#14)
                                                  All New All Now - 534K (#1)
                                                  HITS 2022 - 505K (#5)
                                                  Pop All Day - 496K (#7)
                                                  Pop Brandneu - 469K (#4)
                                                  Is 47M good reach for a new song by a big artist? Especially when she’s pretty low and some, especially Mood Booster…

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