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  • Originally posted by Clown10 View Post
    Thanks to the concert/album bundle . Without it, wonder how many would actually buy it.
    Probably the same Mariah is not a touring force so she didn't benefit as much.

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    • Originally posted by Clown10 View Post
      Thanks to the concert/album bundle . Without it, wonder how many would actually buy it.
      That argument can be used for the pure sales of a lot of albums released nowadays.

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      • Caution worldwide streaming : SPOTIFY

        Tuesday (05/14/2019)

        # Title Plays Daily increase
        1. GTFO 13,635,832 +17,921
        2. With You 10,415,205 +16,365
        3. Caution 8,247,373 +12,178
        4. A No No 11,345,354 +26,139
        5. The Distance 6,970,113 +10,107
        6. Giving Me Life 3,380,967 +7,807
        7. One Mo' Gen 2,614,961 +5,844
        8. 8th Grade 2,871,865 +6,798
        9. Stay Long Love You 2,682,230 +6,098
        10. Portrait 2,245,067 +5,266
        TOTAL 64,408,967 +114,523
        She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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        • Originally posted by Clown10 View Post
          Thanks to the concert/album bundle . Without it, wonder how many would actually buy it.
          A sale is a sale

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          • As if Mariah is the only one doing ticket bundles these days.

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            • Originally posted by Clown10 View Post
              Thanks to the concert/album bundle . Without it, wonder how many would actually buy it.


              Well not everyone with the tickets redeemed their copy. Probably less than 10pc of them so it has done ok for this environment

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              • It irks me that AIWFCIY is currently charting in 18 countries on Itunes. I mean, it's basically summer... and people - altho sales are tiny - are purchasing that song over any of her new material.
                My Chart

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                • Caution worldwide streaming : SPOTIFY

                  Wednesday (05/15/2019)

                  # Title Plays Daily increase
                  1. GTFO 13,654,013 +18,181
                  2. With You 10,431,666 +16,461
                  3. Caution 8,259,758 +12,385
                  4. A No No 11,370,939 +25,585
                  5. The Distance 6,980,525 +10,412
                  6. Giving Me Life 3,389,048 +8,081
                  7. One Mo' Gen 2,620,803 +5,842
                  8. 8th Grade 2,878,659 +6,794
                  9. Stay Long Love You 2,688,348 +6,118
                  10. Portrait 2,250,369 +5,302
                  TOTAL 64,524,128 +115,161
                  She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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                  • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                    It irks me that AIWFCIY is currently charting in 18 countries on Itunes. I mean, it's basically summer... and people - altho sales are tiny - are purchasing that song over any of her new material.
                    Why is this irksome? Its a standout song in her catalog. Hopefully we begin seeing this show up on streaming charts year long too and not just itunes.

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                    • Caution worldwide streaming : SPOTIFY

                      Thursday (05/16/2019)

                      # Title Plays Daily increase
                      1. GTFO 13,671,897 +17,884
                      2. With You 10,449,000 +17,334
                      3. Caution 8,272,863 +13,105
                      4. A No No 11,398,033 +27,094
                      5. The Distance 6,991,293 +10,768
                      6. Giving Me Life 3,397,363 +8,315
                      7. One Mo' Gen 2,626,761 +5,958
                      8. 8th Grade 2,885,678 +7,019
                      9. Stay Long Love You 2,694,678 +6,330
                      10. Portrait 2,256,137 +5,768
                      TOTAL 64,643,703 +119,575
                      She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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                      • Caution worldwide streaming : SPOTIFY

                        Friday (05/17/2019)

                        # Title Plays Daily increase
                        1. GTFO 13,689,208 +17,311
                        2. With You 10,464,975 +15,975
                        3. Caution 8,285,200 +12,337
                        4. A No No 11,424,263 +26,230
                        5. The Distance 7,001,546 +10,253
                        6. Giving Me Life 3,405,098 +7,735
                        7. One Mo' Gen 2,632,477 +5,716
                        8. 8th Grade 2,892,559 +6,881
                        9. Stay Long Love You 2,700,574 +5,896
                        10. Portrait 2,261,395 +5,258
                        TOTAL 64,757,295 +113,592
                        She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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                        • Youtube:

                          Music Videos: (21,357,335)
                          8,538,966 - +37,417 - GTFO
                          8,089,301 - +92,974 - With You
                          4,729,068 - +74,728 - A No No

                          Remix Videos: (1,234,830)
                          879,465 - +18,767 - A No No ft. Stefflon Don
                          355,365 - +12,697 - A No No ft. Shawni

                          Lyric Videos: (1,264,472)
                          644,603 - +5,817 - The Distance
                          619,869 - +3,892 - A No No

                          Audio Videos: (9,607,342)
                          2,345,726 - +10,963 - A No No
                          1,752,657 - +17,185 - Caution
                          1,334,949 - +12,450 - 8th Grade
                          1,190,587 - +11,191 - Giving Me Life
                          764,631 - +7,739 - One Mo' Gen
                          689,814 - +5,634 - Stay Long Love You
                          644,318 - +5,282 - Portrait
                          449,651 - +5,342 - The Distance
                          266,828 - +3,206 - With You
                          168,181 - +2,781 - GTFO

                          Audio Videos Remixes (302,993)
                          228,594 - +1,386 - A No No ft. Stefflon Don
                          74,399 - +3,282 - A No No ft. Shawni
                          My Chart

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                          • Originally posted by MrDash View Post
                            Caution worldwide streaming : SPOTIFY

                            Friday (05/17/2019)

                            # Title Plays Daily increase
                            1. GTFO 13,689,208 +17,311
                            2. With You 10,464,975 +15,975
                            3. Caution 8,285,200 +12,337
                            4. A No No 11,424,263 +26,230
                            5. The Distance 7,001,546 +10,253
                            6. Giving Me Life 3,405,098 +7,735
                            7. One Mo' Gen 2,632,477 +5,716
                            8. 8th Grade 2,892,559 +6,881
                            9. Stay Long Love You 2,700,574 +5,896
                            10. Portrait 2,261,395 +5,258
                            TOTAL 64,757,295 +113,592
                            Basically, as of now, Caution has been streamed 100m times on both Spotify and Youtube, which amounts to around 66,000 copies sold WW through streaming alone. Does anyone know its streaming figures on services like Apple Music, Tidal and Pandora?

                            Also, how much has she sold worldwide in terms of pure sales?
                            Last edited by charmxriah; Sat May 18th, 2019, 11:56.

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                            • My estimation: worldwide sales

                              220,000 - SPS
                              140,000 - Pure

                              Which makes Caution her lowest selling release to date:

                              Pure sales:

                              1990s: 121,600,000
                              14,0m - Debut
                              08,1m - Emotions
                              06,5m - MTV Unplugged
                              26,0m - Music Box
                              13,5m - Merry Christmas
                              20,0m - Daydream
                              10,0m - Butterfly
                              16,0m - #1's
                              07,5m - Rainbow

                              2000s: 23,500,000
                              02,0m - Glitter
                              04,5m - Greatest Hits
                              03,0m - Charmbracelet
                              00,5m - The Remixes
                              09,0m - TEOM
                              02,5m - E=MC
                              01,0m - Ballads
                              01,0m - Memoirs

                              2010s: 2,000,000
                              01,0m - Merry Christmas II You
                              00,1m - Playlist: TVBOMC
                              00,2m - Essential
                              00,3m - MIAMTEC
                              00,3m - #1 to Infinity
                              00,1m - Caution

                              = 147,100,000
                              My Chart

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                              • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                                My estimation: worldwide sales

                                220,000 - SPS
                                140,000 - Pure

                                Which makes Caution her lowest selling release to date:

                                Pure sales:

                                1990s: 121,600,000
                                14,0m - Debut
                                08,1m - Emotions
                                06,5m - MTV Unplugged
                                26,0m - Music Box
                                13,5m - Merry Christmas
                                20,0m - Daydream
                                10,0m - Butterfly
                                16,0m - #1's
                                07,5m - Rainbow

                                2000s: 23,500,000
                                02,0m - Glitter
                                04,5m - Greatest Hits
                                03,0m - Charmbracelet
                                00,5m - The Remixes
                                09,0m - TEOM
                                02,5m - E=MC
                                01,0m - Ballads
                                01,0m - Memoirs

                                2010s: 2,000,000
                                01,0m - Merry Christmas II You
                                00,1m - Playlist: TVBOMC
                                00,2m - Essential
                                00,3m - MIAMTEC
                                00,3m - #1 to Infinity
                                00,1m - Caution

                                = 147,100,000
                                I agree completely, though you are admittedly under-estimating a lot of Mariah's album sales in the 90s

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                                • Based on information from Billboard and Wikipedia (which is itself sourced): WW Sales

                                  90s: 131m albums

                                  15m - Debut
                                  8m - Emotions
                                  7m - MTV Unplugged
                                  32m - Music Box ((as reported by Billboard Magazine in 2011 (link below) - even Mariah has said its sold in the 30m region)
                                  15m - Merry Christmas
                                  20m - Daydream
                                  10m - Butterfly
                                  16m - #1s
                                  8m - Rainbow

                                  2000s: 26m albums

                                  2m - Glitter
                                  5m - Greatest Hits
                                  2.5m - Charmbracelet
                                  12m - TEOM
                                  2.5m - E=MC2
                                  2m - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel

                                  2010s: 2m

                                  1m - Merry Xmas II You
                                  0.3m - Me I am Mariah
                                  0.3m - #1 to Infinity
                                  circa 0.2m - Caution
                                  0.2m - All other compilation albums released this decade

                                  Total album sales - 160m

                                  (https://books.google.com.lb/books?id...dwide&hl=en&sa)

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                                  • Originally posted by charmxriah View Post
                                    Based on information from Billboard and Wikipedia (which is itself sourced): WW Sales

                                    90s: 131m albums

                                    15m - Debut
                                    8m - Emotions
                                    7m - MTV Unplugged
                                    32m - Music Box ((as reported by Billboard Magazine in 2011 (link below) - even Mariah has said its sold in the 30m region)
                                    15m - Merry Christmas
                                    20m - Daydream
                                    10m - Butterfly
                                    16m - #1s
                                    8m - Rainbow

                                    2000s: 26m albums

                                    2m - Glitter
                                    5m - Greatest Hits
                                    2.5m - Charmbracelet
                                    12m - TEOM
                                    2.5m - E=MC2
                                    2m - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel

                                    2010s: 2m

                                    1m - Merry Xmas II You
                                    0.3m - Me I am Mariah
                                    0.3m - #1 to Infinity
                                    circa 0.2m - Caution
                                    0.2m - All other compilation albums released this decade

                                    Total album sales - 160m

                                    (https://books.google.com.lb/books?id...dwide&hl=en&sa)
                                    The sales figures listed here aren't sourced in terms of the album sales and under-estimate them when compared to her actual reported sales (https://mariah-charts-and-sales.jimdo.com), but her singles sales seem accurate, though AIWFCIY has been under-estimated by at least 6m copies!

                                    Factoring that in, she's sold around 93m singles (95m including music video sales)

                                    That puts Mariah's total record sales (not inc streaming) at 255m records sold ww

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                                    • The thing with her albums sales is that the only organization which can provide global albums sales, never gives comprehensive sales totals for albums. The IFPI is the only credible source for worldwide sales.

                                      Billboard is not at all credible when they are giving global estimates. They're often way too high and not verifyable.

                                      Labels often give numbers which are not based on reality... That 12m figure for TEOM is one of those. 12m copies... while only 6,2 million come from the USA is laughable. All in all one can say that the album sold between 1,2-1,4m in Europe (at the very most) and probably 800/900k in all of Asia (based on information we have).

                                      Unverifyable sales from China et al are pure fiction at this point. The label claims sales 200k for China which I think might be quite reasonable and which are included in my 800k/900k total estimation for the continent.

                                      Estimating her global singles sales is even worse because catalogue updates are old and we cannot estimate European sales because most markets never released figures.

                                      I would agree though with the 90m estimate on singles sales... (well I have her at 85m max). But we have to be aware that 65% of those sales are digital downloads. She wasn't a huge seller during the physical ages. She did OK tho.

                                      As for the Caution songs... I would estimate: (globally)

                                      55,000 - GTFO
                                      35,000 - With You
                                      15,000 - A No No
                                      10,000 - Rest of the Album

                                      = 115,000 all 10 tracks combined. By comparison AIWFCIY sold 75,000+ just in the US last season.
                                      My Chart

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                                      • Caution worldwide streaming : SPOTIFY

                                        Saturday (05/18/2019)

                                        # Title Plays Daily increase
                                        1. GTFO 13,705,569 +16,361
                                        2. With You 10,478,978 +14,003
                                        3. Caution 8,296,041 +10,841
                                        4. A No No 11,447,701 +23,438
                                        5. The Distance 7,010,184 +8,638
                                        6. Giving Me Life 3,411,789 +6,691
                                        7. One Mo' Gen 2,637,425 +4,948
                                        8. 8th Grade 2,898,284 +5,725
                                        9. Stay Long Love You 2,705,633 +5,059
                                        10. Portrait 2,265,856 +4,461
                                        TOTAL 64,857,460 +100,165
                                        She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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                                        • ANN is so stable. WY is the most stable on youtube tho.
                                          My Chart

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                                          • Caution worldwide streaming : SPOTIFY

                                            Sunday (05/19/2019)

                                            # Title Plays Daily increase
                                            1. GTFO 13,719,820 +14,251
                                            2. With You 10,491,857 +12,879
                                            3. Caution 8,305,871 +9,830
                                            4. A No No 11,468,304 +20,603
                                            5. The Distance 7,018,462 +8,278
                                            6. Giving Me Life 3,418,077 +6,288
                                            7. One Mo' Gen 2,642,030 +4,605
                                            8. 8th Grade 2,903,671 +5,387
                                            9. Stay Long Love You 2,710,718 +5,085
                                            10. Portrait 2,270,049 +4,193
                                            TOTAL 64,948,859 +91,399
                                            She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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                                            • why there is only 10 tracks ? more songs mean more sales

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                                              • Because she wanted to release an album with these 10 tracks? And she's not a streaming force so I don't think it would make a difference.

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                                                • Originally posted by charmxriah View Post
                                                  Based on information from Billboard and Wikipedia (which is itself sourced): WW Sales

                                                  90s: 131m albums

                                                  15m - Debut
                                                  8m - Emotions
                                                  7m - MTV Unplugged
                                                  32m - Music Box ((as reported by Billboard Magazine in 2011 (link below) - even Mariah has said its sold in the 30m region)
                                                  15m - Merry Christmas
                                                  20m - Daydream
                                                  10m - Butterfly
                                                  16m - #1s
                                                  8m - Rainbow

                                                  2000s: 26m albums

                                                  2m - Glitter
                                                  5m - Greatest Hits
                                                  2.5m - Charmbracelet
                                                  12m - TEOM
                                                  2.5m - E=MC2
                                                  2m - Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel

                                                  2010s: 2m

                                                  1m - Merry Xmas II You
                                                  0.3m - Me I am Mariah
                                                  0.3m - #1 to Infinity
                                                  circa 0.2m - Caution
                                                  0.2m - All other compilation albums released this decade

                                                  Total album sales - 160m

                                                  (https://books.google.com.lb/books?id...dwide&hl=en&sa)

                                                  Not that it matters or changes the numbers much, but where did "Memoirs" sell around 1,3 million outside US (560,000) and UK (60,000)? I think the ww sales are probably between 0.9 and 1 million.

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                                                  • Billboard R&B Albums Sales
                                                    11 (11) 26 Caution

                                                    Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Albums Sales
                                                    27 (28) 26 Caution - Mariah Carey

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