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  • theMathematician
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    I'm overwhelmed by the support Lil Nas X is getting from his team in terms of promoting 'Old Town Road' considering that it's his debut single and not even Lady Gaga, Adele or Taylor Swift had that at the peak of their career. They really seem to believe in him and it, additionally, looks like every promo step eventually pays off. Finally, Lil Nas X appears to be a person easy to hang out with judging by the amount of established acts wanting to collaborate with him. The pressure on single No. 2 will be extreme - Will it be a Katy Perry- (two big hits in a row), a PSY- (big hit, then small hit) or a Gotye-esque scenario (big hit, silence)?

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  • delapuerta
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    Originally posted by Loveguru View Post
    His record is valid. the song is iconic
    Of course it is, but some people tried to diminish Mariah's achievements and they forgot how hard was getting a #1 for 16wks in 1996 and how big she and Boyz II men were in that moment. But Lil Nas song is a great one and it's a worldwide hit

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  • delapuerta
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    Congrats! a hit is a hit!

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  • Tansike
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    Congrats!

    (And it‘s better than Despacito IMO so there‘s that)

    I‘d be ok if it won‘t break the record though.

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  • JeremySpears
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    ‪The locals have officially lost it‬
    Last edited by JeremySpears; Mon July 22, 2019, 16:38.

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  • Loveguru
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    His record is valid. the song is iconic

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  • delapuerta
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    Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
    OSD isn’t that well remembered now but it was huge at the time. We’ll probably being saying the same thing about Lil Onika X three years from now. At least Kween has plenty of other career records to fall back on record or no record, Lil Onika has Instagram followers?
    Well, Lil Nas deserves his credit for this huge success and we don't know about the future, but it's true comparing a hit in no streaming era with OTR is unfair. Ironic by Alanis is 120M views and it was still is a big song. I mean staying 16 weeks at #1 is an achievement no matter when.
    But OSD isn't Mariah's signature song, Hero, AIWFC, WBT and I would say Without you/fantasy maybe are. So it's great (wbt was 14 weeks at #1)

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  • stevyy
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    Originally posted by MrLeonix View Post
    Stop discrediting Lil Nas' amazing run just because of one remix. Mariah's song was a duet so it also got help.



    I quite agree, OSD has like 57million streams on Spotify which is very disappointing for a 16 weeks #1 hit / US song of the decade title, quite forgotten if you'd ask me.

    This is indeed a viral phenomenom.
    the song actually has 60,848,395 streams on Spotify and 171,5 million video views (2009-2019). OSD is among Mariah's 10 most streamed songs (#9). It gains over half a million streams per week on Spotify (her 7th biggest gainer). On Youtube it is her 4th fastest gaining video with 90k per day.

    The thing is... these stats alone are pointless bc Mariah is not a streaming artist. Words like the song is forgotten in terms of streaming means that none of her songs are remembered. Unless you compare statistics by non-streaming era artists... then the difference becomes much clearer. UNLESS again you come to the same conclusion that besides having 1 or 2 decently streamed hits, no non-streaming-era act has remembered hits, which would then also include almost EVERYONE above 40.

    weekly Spotify gains of some of her songs if you think that 500k per week is proof of it being forgotten:

    1,500,000 - 2005 - WBT
    850,000 - 1996 - ABMB
    800,000 - 1993 - Hero
    700,000 - 2003 - I know what you want
    520,000 - 1994 - Without You
    505,000 - 1995 - Fantasy
    500,000 - 1995 - OSD
    465,000 - 2008 - TMB
    420,000 - 1998 - When You Believe
    340,000 - 2009 - Obsessed

    She currently has 12 songs above 50 million streams on the platform.
    Last edited by stevyy; Mon July 22, 2019, 01:18.

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  • Goldmoney
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    OSD isn’t that well remembered now but it was huge at the time. We’ll probably being saying the same thing about Lil Onika X three years from now. At least Kween has plenty of other career records to fall back on record or no record, Lil Onika has Instagram followers?

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  • MrLeonix
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    Originally posted by stevyy View Post
    That is not true, we have seen it many times over the past few years how already popular songs get last minute remixes.
    Stop discrediting Lil Nas' amazing run just because of one remix. Mariah's song was a duet so it also got help.

    Originally posted by DnBLover View Post
    This song is a true viral hit. One Sweet Day is something I have ever seen mentioned as a historical fact on UKmix, from what I understood the song has been forgotten with time even.
    I quite agree, OSD has like 57million streams on Spotify which is very disappointing for a 16 weeks #1 hit / US song of the decade title, quite forgotten if you'd ask me.

    This is indeed a viral phenomenom.

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  • stevyy
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    Originally posted by delapuerta View Post
    We're not taking in consideration the Boyz II men factor, they were huge at that time in US. They both were at their primes.
    Telling about the success in the rest of the world is a non-factor, because we're talking about BB Hot 100 and if OSD lasted those weeks is due to real sales and that's a fact. But we are in a different moment and OTR is a huge hit and records mean to be broken. We should comeback in 24 years to this thread and see if Despacito or OTR are still known.
    Indeed OSD isn't Mariah's signature song
    I never got the point that OSD's US performance is somehow weakened by the argument the song wasn't huge in another particular country. It's like saying Helene Fischer is unknown in Germany bc she never had a hit in the UK.

    OSD was #1 on the singles sales chart for 11 weeks (17 weeks in the top 10) and #1 on the airplay chart for 13 weeks (21 weeks in the top 10).

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  • delapuerta
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    We're not taking in consideration the Boyz II men factor, they were huge at that time in US. They both were at their primes.
    Telling about the success in the rest of the world is a non-factor, because we're talking about BB Hot 100 and if OSD lasted those weeks is due to real sales and that's a fact. But we are in a different moment and OTR is a huge hit and records mean to be broken. We should comeback in 24 years to this thread and see if Despacito or OTR are still known.
    Indeed OSD isn't Mariah's signature song

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  • JeremySpears
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  • Tansike
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    @ One Sweet Day discussion: I'm with DnBLover on this side, though I think it probably depends on where you live. I'd say I'm someone who knows quite a lot of songs, also 'old' songs compared to many other people around my age (or even older). But "One Sweet Day" wasn't a big event over here, it even missed the Top10 and so it's probably not surprising that I don't even have its melody in my head while there are a bunch Mariah songs that I know and like (definitely more than ten) and that were more successful than this over here.

    It must be different in the US though.

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  • GetBack
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    The strategy of Sony then for their top acts was to reduce the price of the singles to ensure #1 peaks. Of course, the whole remix thing helping to add points in Hot 100 was not even a thing yet in 1995. I'm sure Mariah would have also been able to benefit from that if that applied in her commercial prime.

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  • JeremySpears
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  • stevyy
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    Originally posted by DnBLover View Post
    This song is a true viral hit. One Sweet Day is something I have ever seen mentioned as a historical fact on UKmix, from what I understood the song has been forgotten with time even.
    That's odd... last time I checked it reached the Itunes top 100 in the UK in 2017. It is consistently performed on talent shows, has many viral covers (especially by Asian groups) and ranks among Mariah's (and Boyz II Men's) top 10 most streamed songs and videos. It currently generates 90,642 daily youtube views in her official channel, making it her 4th most watched daily video (7th by overall views). In spring 2020, it is expected to become her 6th video to surpass 200 million views. It will also have reached close to 90 million streams on Spotify by then (61m currently).

    The thing is when ppl say this is a forgotten song that nobody listens to (or some ppl add "nobody likes") then it would also mean in turn that Mariah Carey only has 2 songs which people know (WBT and AIWFCIY). OSD leads some of her most streamed songs on Vevo, while it also bests some of her most watched videos on Spotify.

    So... ehm... what's the truth?

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  • DnBLover
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    Originally posted by VoReason View Post
    No offence intended, but that’s absolute rubbish as an excuse. This song is annihilating the competition with or without that Young Thug remix. One Sweet Day only had radio and physical to conquer, so that’s that? You can’t compare the circumstance, only the achievements.
    This song is a true viral hit. One Sweet Day is something I have ever seen mentioned as a historical fact on UKmix, from what I understood the song has been forgotten with time even.

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  • AndiIversen
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    USA
    BB Club Dance Songs


    BB issue 07/27

    #43 lw#42 Old town road

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  • thebigham
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    7/20/19 Billboard 200

    https://www.billboard.com/biz/articl...0-albums-chart

    'Revenge of the Dreamers III' Debuts at No. 1 on Billboard 200 Albums Chart
    by Keith Caulfield on Kuly 14, 2019

    Lil Nas X’s 7 falls from No. 2 to No. 4 with 49,000 units (down 21%).

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  • stevyy
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    OH, btw I take everything back, I kind of forgot that Billie Eilish also released a remix. My bad. But it makes a mockery out of charts achievements in my opinion.

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