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  • #31
    in the UK back in black sells nothing a year, couple of thousand if youre lucky, LZ4 10-20 thousand a year. so neither is particularly spectacular. even at a cheap price does not exactly fly of the shelves. they are just not that big in the UK, more a big, big cult following.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by NothingFails
      Since Epic reissued BIB in 2003 at a lower price than what Atlantic was charging, the sales of it have been much higher, almost always in the top 20 on Pop Catalog these days
      That is correct, Epic's version is selling better, especially since the DualDisc was released in feb05.

      Originally posted by NothingFails
      (while it rarely made the pop catalog charts pre-2003, and when it did, it was never top 5 like it sometimes is now)
      That is not true. Atlantic's version charted 437 times from 1991-2003 peaking at # 1. (so far Epic's version peaked at # 2)
      In the 2002 year end catalog chart it was # 15. (however Epic's version was # 11 last year and will probably reach the top 10 this year)
      Top Catalog Albums of the Soundscan era

      Let there be rock!

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Kashmir75
        BPI only covers releases from 1971-onwards. That leaves Zep I,II, and III out of the BPI's tally.
        Ah, I see. Didn't know that, thanks.
        Top Catalog Albums of the Soundscan era

        Let there be rock!

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        • #34
          Dear Kashmir Do you reside in the UK? It was BATH 1970! that Zeppelin headlined! Ans I REPEAT!! in the 1970's at the actual time their LP's came out in the U.K they did not break ANY sales figures! in 1969 Led Zep 1 only sold 75,000 UK sales. in 69/70 L.Z 2 did approx 200.000! It was a MILE! behind Simon & Garfunkel. NOT ONE of their 70's albums on year of release challenged Beatles, Abba, Saturday Night Fever, Grease or The BAY CITY ROLLERS in UK sales terms! Yes I know they didn't release UK singles! They were the main culprits of that Snotty "Feels Like A Grown Up Caught In The Kiddies Playground" Mentality that certain `Heavy/Progressive` groups had in late 60's/early 70's. All i'm asking for is a bit of reality please! Led Zeppelin were certainly popular in the UK from 1969-76 but not especially so! Not like in the USA. I was around in that era-and I can assure you that LED ZEPPELIN never came close to the popularity of The Beatles or Rolling Stones!

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          • #35
            For the record, Led Zep played four times at Bath. '68, '69, '70 and '71.

            And from their era 1968-80, *no one* had more #1's in the UK than Led Zep. Don't get mad at me about it, go yell at the charts or something.

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            • #36
              Of the top of my head they only played Bath Festival in 69 and 70. They did not do another UK festival until 1979 (Knebworth).

              As for the 8 No. 1's yes that is some feat and its only in the past five years or so that a lot of very established artists and groups have caught up with them or passed them onto 9, taking a hell of a lot longer to do so. But as for weeks on chart (about 500 i think), weeks at number and units shifted they unfortunately don't stand up very well against groups like Queen, Dire Straits, Pink Floyd all near or over 1000 weeks, Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel have had one Lp that has stayed at No1 longer than Zep's 8 (14 weeks) as for units shifted its easily LZ2 and LZ4 that are their biggest sellers (about 1.5 million each) but artists like Dido have better selling albums (2 CD's at 2.5m or more). Even from their time (70's)albums like Dark Side' & Bridge Over' and Rumours easily outsold/outsell the leading Zep sellers.

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              • #37
                They played twice at the Bath Pavilion, and twice at the Bath Festival.

                Several groups have 8 or more #1 albums in a music career, but what's amazing is that Zep had *consecutive #1's*. Abba had 8 #1's over 6 yrs, the Beatles 7 #1's over 3 yrs. Zep had 8 over 10 yrs. In this sense, they dominated the 70's UK music scene.

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                • #38
                  Kashmir 75 I am peeved at you-because you definatly seem to have virtually no idea about the music scene in the UK late 60's early 70's. For me-your thread is MIsrepresentation of the true appeal Zeppelin had!In the UK certainly! Unlike the states they weren't worshipped as demi-gods, just another very successfull group like Deep purple, T.rex, Slade etc. In fact circa 1972-74 Slade meant more to UK record buyers than Zeppelin. Your UK sales figures are to be judged mostly on CD sales from the 80's/90's. And sure! on those Zeppelin have done superb! BUT! when the original Vinyl albums were released, they set no UK sales records at all! Far from it!

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                  • #39
                    If some one wants to repond to asm, feel free. :-?

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                    • #40
                      Kashmir I'm happy to have people reply to me! I just find some of the stuff you posted utterly untenable! E.G in your third post you stated that on 31 Jan 1970 Led Zep toppled the Beatles on charts, and A few months later the Beatles quit! Revelation! So John, Paul, George & Ringo weren't at each others throats! They quit because Led Zeppelin had toppled them! You state Led Zep had broken the Beatles run of Eightin a row Melody Maker poll wins by 1970. Yes the MM poll came out in Sept 1970, by then the Beatles weren't a group any more. AND the Rolling Stones beat The Beatles in the 1964 MM poll! which means The Beatles only won Five in a row 1965/6/7/8 & 9. Finally this `BATH` businness! What Bath pavillion has got to to woth the Shepton Mallet Bath Festival in Somerset is beyond me-and i'm sure any other British readers of your thread! The 1969 BATH festival was well overshadowed by Blind Faith's and Rolling Stones Hyde Park Festivals In June/July, Zeppelin shared equal billing in 1969 with Fleetwood Mac, but that years festival didn't make much of a real impact, due to the Two Hyde Park spectaculars mentioned. Zeppelin really made 1969 headlines in their Sunday 28th June Pop Proms Night at the Royal Albert Hall, along with The Liverpool Scene Group, and some of Fleetwood Mac who joined in a Rock N' Roll finale! That was Zeppelins REAL breakthrough UK gig! It was the Bath festival (Shepton Mallet) in July 1970 they were the acknowledged headline act. THAT was the BIG Bath Festival! OK! I know i'm sounding tough-but I really feel that your thread was far too subjective! and the UK Zeppelin popularity data so WAY OUT!

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                      • #41
                        I think Led Zeppelin were one of the greatest rock groups ever but with regards to their UK impact, I have to agree with ASM on the matter.

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                        • #42
                          Physical Graffiti is now 2xPlatinum in UK...
                          25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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                          • #43
                            Thanks for that, MJDangerous.

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                            • #44
                              well it says that in the music week chart, yeah two times platinum. Yet it only has the 3 weeks, the 3 weeks that it has rentered at, should that be added to the 27 originally, 30 now.

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                              • #45
                                ASM while i justify what you say and have said so in previous arguments. Why have you got such a problem with Led Zeppelin?

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                                • #46
                                  Dear Jimmy I don't have a problem with Zeppelin themselves! I really rate a lot of their stuff very highly. The first LP is for me-a masterpiece! an outstanding debut on any level! I'm lucky enough to have a copy (Plum Label) with the groups name on the cover in Turquoise! I also adore the Third LP-fantastic musical variety, showing a dexterity that put them above Sabbath & Purple! (I believe it got panned by American critics though!)Its the way Kashmir 75 presented the thread on them which got to me! Some of his `facts` -especially pertaining to Zeppelin acheivements in the UK, were off the ball. To just put sales figures without explaining how they came about and over what time-scale, I believe, is paramount to such a thread! I actually enjoy much of Zeppelins output, with only "In Through The Out Door" misfiring!For me it was a disaster! Anyhow, I just wanted to put in perspective their sales and other achievements of the period 1969-79 particulary UK wise! Sorry if I was a bit rough though!

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                                  • #47
                                    ASM, fair enough. I suppose I used to (when I was younger) pretend that Zep were up there in the UK, with regard to everyhing, sales, fans etc, but in subsequent years I have taken a more rational outlook on their status In the UK. They certainly are a very big band, but really can't compete with a lot of other artists in the UK. Queen for instance are nowhere near Zep interms of US sales, fans, concert attendances, yet over here they are massive easily beating Zep on all accounts. I really think in a way the no singles decision, has kind of back fired on them in the long run. Bands like Queen, Beatles, U2, Rolling Stones etc, through singles, tv appearances, videos have placed themselves more and deeper into the minds of the UK music buying public, well general public. 8 UK number 1's is a remarkable feat (out of 9 releases, at the time) but I put that down to a very large hardcore fanbase, they dont sell (beyond say the first 4 LP's) to the general public as much as say The Beatles or Queen, look at best of sales for the 3 bands, Remasters has done Double Platinum 600,000 in the UK (probably more now), but the Beatles and Queen comps' have shifted immense amounts. I feel the same could be levelled at Pink Floyd, OK Dark Side still sells, maybe The Wall and Wish You Were Here do as well, but beyond that I can't imagine anything still shifting great number per year (maybe Echoes). You could ask any Joe Bloggs of the street to name 10 Queen, Beatles, Rolling Stones songs and they could, but I'd be surprised if your average man knew 1 Zep song outside Stairway To Heaven, same with The Floyd maybe Another Brick, Wish You Were Here, but not many or any more.

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                                    • #48
                                      Originally posted by jimmypages59
                                      I suppose I used to (when I was younger) pretend that Zep were up there in the UK, with regard to everyhing, sales, fans etc, but in subsequent years I have taken a more rational outlook on their status In the UK.
                                      That's how I feel about AC/DC. I've always thought they were HUGE in the UK too, but after finding this forum I've realized they were nowhere as big in the UK as in the US (or as in Germany, France & Spain for that matter...)

                                      Still they're my faves and that's what really counts for me
                                      Top Catalog Albums of the Soundscan era

                                      Let there be rock!

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                                      • #49
                                        Jimmy Zeppelin taking the stance not to release any `official` singles certainly is a factor! In the 1969/70 era the singles chart was seen a a sort of `Kiddies Playground` by many of the Heavy/Progressive outfits of that era! Remember, the practise of trailing a single to promote the parent LP was virtually unknown in the UK then-unlike the states! (I think Blondies "Parrallel Lines" L.P in 1979 changed this) Zeppelin were the most prominent act not to have a single out! I feel that when the singles market became more relevant circa 1971-75 they might have dipped a toe in the water! By 1976-79 Zeppelin were virtually the most castigated act by the Punk/New Wave explosion! Sadly I think they had painted them selves into a corner! Look at the difference in sales and critical impact of "In Through The Out Door" in UK and USA! Hard to say if like Queen (Who were similary abused in the late 70's) they could have regained ground in the UK!

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                                        • #50
                                          Hello,
                                          Only ABBA and Led Zeppelin had 8 Number 1 UK albums in a row.

                                          In the end, ABBA had 9, when 'Gold' made Number 1 in 1992. (And again in 1999)

                                          However, The Beatles had about 15 UK Number 1 Albums - beating both Groups - but, their most in a row was 7.

                                          ODDLY, the 8th - and final - Led Zeppelin UK Number 1 Album, ('In Through The Out Door'), was recorded at ABBA's Polar Music Studios, in Stockholm, in 1979(?). Or was it in late 1978?

                                          So, the only 2 Groups, that 8 UK Number 1 Albums in a row, recorded Albums at the SAME Swedish Studios, at one stage! ABBA were doing, 'Voulez Vous', and Led Zeppelin, did, 'In Through The Out Door'.

                                          A weird coincidence really.

                                          Not that either Album influenced the other! (LOL!).

                                          Colin

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                                          • #51
                                            Just found out that PHYSICAL GRAFFITI has sold 56,730 copies in the UK this year, it's best sales year almost definitely since 1975 (year of release).

                                            This can be surely be down to HMV, Woolworths etc selling it for 5 and 6, the cheapest it has ever been priced in the UK.

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                                            • #52
                                              I see Early Days/Latter Days was just certified platinum by the BPI.

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                                              • #53
                                                [quote="zeus555"]Hello,
                                                Only ABBA and Led Zeppelin had 8 Number 1 UK albums in a row.

                                                In the end, ABBA had 9, when 'Gold' made Number 1 in 1992. (And again in 1999)

                                                Led Zep has 9 #1's as well. The DVD hit the top of the charts in 2003.

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                                                • #54
                                                  Yeah but thats #1 in the Music DVD chart, so it is not included in the Album chart. Still 8 #1 Albums i'm afraid.

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                                                  • #55
                                                    Just adding the UK sales figures from Jimmypages to this thread so they don't get lost.

                                                    Total UK Sales
                                                    BBC Sessions - 134,283
                                                    Early/Latter Days - 316,154
                                                    How the West Was Won - 167,366
                                                    DVD Led Zeppelin - 190,238

                                                    Sales 1993 to Now
                                                    Led Zeppelin IV - 340,569
                                                    Physical Graffiti - 167,756
                                                    See Page One of my threads for all updates

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                                                    • #56
                                                      US Led Zeppelin Certifications

                                                      A number of these are now well overdue

                                                      Early Days/Latter Days - 2CD. Has now sold well over 1m so should be Double Platinum as a 2CD set.

                                                      How the West Was Won - 3CD. Has sold well over the 667,000 needed for a Double Platinum certification as a 3CD set.

                                                      Remasters - 3CD. Sales very likely over 1 million now so should be Triple Platinum.
                                                      See Page One of my threads for all updates

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                                                      • #57
                                                        Originally posted by Basil
                                                        US Led Zeppelin Certifications

                                                        A number of these are now well overdue

                                                        Early Days/Latter Days - 2CD. Has now sold well over 1m so should be Double Platinum as a 2CD set.

                                                        How the West Was Won - 3CD. Has sold well over the 667,000 needed for a Double Platinum certification as a 3CD set.

                                                        Remasters - 3CD. Sales very likely over 1 million now so should be Triple Platinum.
                                                        Just curious seems the self-titled DVD is undercertified(july2003),6 weeks after it was released.
                                                        My hunch is the dvd is hitting the double diamond status in US just like it did in Canada.Transalation at least 1,000,000 units shipped,being a two disc package that would be 2,000,000 units.

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                                                        • #58
                                                          Remasters - 3CD. Sales very likely over 1 million now so should be Triple Platinum.[/quote]

                                                          The copy ive got is a 2 cd.

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                                                          • #59
                                                            Originally posted by MIGUEL
                                                            Remasters - 3CD. Sales very likely over 1 million now so should be Triple Platinum.
                                                            The copy ive got is a 2 cd.[/quote]

                                                            The 2 CD copy was sold primarily outside of North America at the same time that the 4 CD box set was issued.
                                                            The release was felt to be necessary as it was believed a 4 CD Package would not sell well outside of North America

                                                            The 3 CD set(which includes a disc containing interviews) was marketed in North Ameria first via television infomercial then through retailers. I have 3 CD package myself
                                                            I know the 2CD package is only available in Canada as an import and I am sure the same applies to the USA

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                                                            • #60
                                                              Originally posted by Classicrock
                                                              The 3 CD set(which includes a disc containing interviews) was marketed in North Ameria first via television infomercial then through retailers. I have 3 CD package myself
                                                              I know the 2CD package is only available in Canada as an import and I am sure the same applies to the USA
                                                              Well done for clearing that up Classicrock.

                                                              Yes I got the 3CD version - good interview disc.

                                                              The 2CD was released outside the US in 1990. You were right about the box set not selling so well in the rest of the world. In the US it is the biggest selling box set ever (of 4CD's or more) shipping over 2,750,000 copies.

                                                              Finally Remasters got released in the US in 1992 and sold via Television. That was a big marketing campaign and sales must have been huge. Officially the album has only shipped 667,000 copies. Seems way too low. The Early Days/Latter Days 2CD set (with less tracks!) has shifted over 1 million in just a few years with very little promotion.

                                                              Even if we had a soundscan figure for remasters it wouldn't be that helpful as the big sales were via that mail-order campaign and probably outside of soundscan in 1992.

                                                              I don't think the DVD has sold 1 million just yet. There was a website that gave regular updates on it's sales. The last of these was October 2004 when it had reached 702,000. Sales had been slowing down a lot so perhaps around 800,000 by now. The biggest selling CD of it's kind. I have a list of the biggest selling DVD's of 2 or more Discs at

                                                              http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.p ... 47&start=0

                                                              About halfway down the first page.
                                                              See Page One of my threads for all updates

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