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  • Good work, chartobs. ;) I have no time to check Now: Tiny dancer (ironik) Made n.1 in uk?

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    • Originally posted by lucad
      Good work, chartobs. ;) I have no time to check Now: Tiny dancer (ironik) Made n.1 in uk?
      It went #3 in uk charts

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      • UK Charts 11th Jan

        162. (RE) FACE TO FACE (Gary Barlow & Elton John)

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        • Canada 5/01/14
          221wks ISL 74 40 tw;8 JOHN*ELTON ROCKET MAN-NUMBER 1'S tw:708 +2% lw:697 total: 160,466 (MUST BE 2Xplat)

          ROC 110 143 75 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS tw:223 -28% lw:310 total: 222,461 ( was certified 10x PLAT, needs an update)
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          Diving Board - certified Silver in uk (10/01/14) / 60k; GOLD in Russia (5/12/2013) / 5k

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          • "3 ROC 110 143 75 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS 223 -28 310 222,461"

            so the total would be 1.200.000 ?

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            • Originally posted by mansfield
              "3 ROC 110 143 75 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS 223 -28 310 222,461"

              so the total would be 1.200.000 ?
              It was certified DIAMOND (10xPLAT) on Oct 19, 1988 in canada. I don't know if soundscan tracks the sales in canada from1991 as in us. but it seems it may be even more than 1.300.000

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              • Last Week, Face to Face (album track) . gary barlow duet, up #142 in uk. Think it will be released this week as a single

                Today, on Itunes, Candle In the Wind 1997:
                #85 France (NE)
                #334 Switzerland (NE)

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                • Uk album charts
                  60 lw:181 31wks
                  ONE NIGHT ONLY - THE GREATEST HITS
                  ELTON JOHN

                  There MUST be a promotion i think :0

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                  • Top ten of top performers at Sydney Entertainment Center:

                    Elton John (56 shows)
                    John Farnham (40)
                    Billy Joel (28)
                    Pink (26)
                    Dire Straits (26)
                    Kylie Minogue (23)
                    Neil Diamond (23)
                    AC/DC (17)
                    INXS (17)
                    U2 (16)

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                    • CANADA - TOP CATALOGUE - 01/19/2013

                      223 ISL 8 28 29 JOHN*ELTON ROCKET MAN-NUMBER 1'S 336 9 307 161,109
                      5 ROC 75 69 66 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS 235 18 199 222,895

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                      • Uk album charts
                        #40 lw:60 32wks
                        ONE NIGHT ONLY - THE GREATEST HITS
                        ELTON JOHN

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                        • According to
                          http://www.greasylake.org/the-circuit/i ... bum-sales/

                          TOTAL US ALBUM SALES.....................................................................80,125,000
                          Prisoner Of Rock'n'Roll

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                          • Interesting Update, not official but good approximation.
                            BUT:
                            Elton John, Tumbleweed sells more. The point is they miss certifications.
                            THE UNION is not in the LIST, and it's an Elton John Record effectively. Must be on the list, dn't know why collaborations are not counted.
                            LION KING, 10xplatinum, is a soundtrack, so it's not in the list.

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                            • So, over 90 million, right?
                              Prisoner Of Rock'n'Roll

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                              • Originally posted by lucad
                                Interesting Update, not official but good approximation.
                                BUT:
                                Elton John, Tumbleweed sells more. The point is they miss certifications.
                                THE UNION is not in the LIST, and it's an Elton John Record effectively. Must be on the list, dn't know why collaborations are not counted.
                                LION KING, 10xplatinum, is a soundtrack, so it's not in the list.
                                Indeed nice numbers. These guys do the same we do: they put one and one together and estimate. The only difference may be, that you must have some special knowledge about certain albums to estimate correctly. Most of these sales came from a complete different period of time, long before soundscan began tracking sales.

                                In the case of Tumbleweed it reminds me of a column from music journalist John Tobler. In 1995 he wrote: "...this albumīs precise status has never been officially established, although it is almost certainly at least double platinum." As we know his record company made a revision of Eltonīs back catalog in the mid nineties and Tumbleweed was certified platinum three years after Toblers estimation. Both Elton John and Tumbleweed received gold shortly after their release and itīs hard to believe that solid catalog sellers didn't make some progress within more than four decades, as Tobler said it 18 years ago. In addition: Between 2004 and 2008 there has been several deluxe releases of Elton John and Tumbleweed, and in 2012 there was a reissue in form of the 5 Classic Albums 1970-1973 [Box Set]. These and others may not be tracked due to soundscan policy, but in summary you have to admit: Elton John has sold more than 1 million units in the US since 1970 and Tumbleweed got to that point before soundscan tracking.

                                Why? Itīs simple. You have to be careful with soundscan sales if you want to get closer to realistic estimations from older albums. The best evidence for it is Madman Across The Water. Soundscan tracked about 600k copies to date. Remember: It received platinum in 1993 and five years later it was certified double platinum for sales of 2 million in US. Considering the sales boost after the movie Almost Famous in 2000 and the fact, that16years have gone since last certification, you must assume that in 1998 soundscan sales have been far less than 600k. So what does it mean? It means that most of the 2 million copies certified in 1998 were already sold when soundscan began tracking sales in 1991. Otherwise it wouldnīt make any sense. In 1998 soundscan may have tracked 400-500k units. The implication: 1,5 million copies have been sold before 1991!

                                Other example: Honky Château. It was more popular than Madman until the mid nineties but it received platinum after the latter one. Why? Only the record company has the answer. The truth: Honky Château was five weeks at the top of the Charts in US and it was Eltonīs first album to remain on the Billboard Top 200 for well over a year. As the other classic albums it reached Gold status shortly after the release and after one year on the charts it already got to a summit of one million. But platinum certification was not introduced until 1976, nor multi-platinum until 1984 and so it fell into oblivion. The platinum certification in 1995 was a looong overdued act and once more soundscan sales are quite a lukewarm indicator for itīs effective sales. If Madman is at 2,5 million (I think sales are 2,2-2,3 milion), than itīs not realistic that Honky Château is 1 million behind. I cannot give an estimation for itīs correct sales because of the leck of measurable creteria, but Honky definately isnīt far behind (maybe 1,8-2,0 million).

                                In the end some of his albums, each hiding hundred thousands of sales. has never been certified. The Very Best of (1990) has never been released in US but itīs import sales exceed 200k (400k as double disk). I donīt know any other album, that got to the same sales range (almost gold) as an import. But i have respect for these sales information from the list mentioned above. For sure The Union is missing and there are same other albums than Number Ones to be recertified.

                                But I think Eltons albums sales are around 85million, so near to these estimations.

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                                • Good. I have respect too, so please don't misunderstand, just add some points. And LIVE in AUSTRALIA (1988, gold in january 1989) is probably >1.500.000; as the 500k soundscan sales were counted from 1991. And it was a good catalog seller in the 90's, for Candle in the wind solo piano hit version.

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                                  • Thanks, chartobserver!
                                    Prisoner Of Rock'n'Roll

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                                    • Aida (1999) certified GOLD to be added.
                                      Anyway very interesting work ;)

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                                      • Goodbye Yellow Brick Road [Box Set] 40th Anniversary is at # 4 on Amazon.uk
                                        It is being released next 24th of March

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                                        • UK
                                          # 42 One night Only

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                                          • Interesting:

                                            On iTunes

                                            Rocket Man - Number Ones
                                            #11 Canada

                                            Greatest Hits
                                            #17 Uganda
                                            #28 New Zealand
                                            #54 Norway

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                                            • Today:

                                              On iTunes

                                              Rocket Man - Number Ones
                                              #10 Canada

                                              Greatest Hits

                                              #26 New Zealand
                                              #78 Norway

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                                              • Billboard top200:
                                                68 (Re-Entry) 68wks Rocket Man: Number Ones Elton John
                                                (9 re-entry on catalog chart)

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                                                • Canada Top Catalogue

                                                  225 ISL 29 46 27 JOHN*ELTON ROCKET MAN-NUMBER 1'S 341 37 249 161,699

                                                  He is touring Canada this week. On iTunes the album is in the Top Ten since yesterday. Next week it will rise on the Canadian Charts.

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                                                  • now on i-tunes

                                                    Greatest Hits 70-02

                                                    Elton John: Greatest Hits
                                                    #1 Ecuador
                                                    #30 Uganda
                                                    #51 New Zealand
                                                    #71 Burkina Faso
                                                    #95 Canada
                                                    #96 Ukraine
                                                    #100 Romania
                                                    #101 Israel
                                                    #106 Ghana
                                                    #108 Denmark
                                                    #124 Papua New Guinea
                                                    #127 Ireland
                                                    #128 Dominican Republic
                                                    #132 Argentina
                                                    #134 Sri Lanka
                                                    #148 Australia
                                                    #152 Peru
                                                    #162 British Virgin Islands
                                                    #162 Cayman Islands
                                                    #170 Belize
                                                    #180 Malaysia
                                                    #187 The Bahamas
                                                    #188 Kyrgyzstan
                                                    #190 Barbados
                                                    #203 Czech Republic
                                                    #204 Lithuania
                                                    #206 United Kingdom
                                                    #215 Brazil
                                                    #227 Portugal
                                                    #253 Luxembourg
                                                    #267 Bahrain
                                                    #268 Cyprus
                                                    #272 Bolivia
                                                    #274 Vietnam
                                                    #282 Uzbekistan
                                                    #284 Philippines
                                                    #286 Netherlands
                                                    #290 Nicaragua
                                                    #298 Botswana
                                                    #299 Trinidad and Tobago
                                                    #303 Namibia
                                                    #304 Switzerland
                                                    #307 Russia
                                                    #315 Chile
                                                    #315 USA
                                                    #322 Panama
                                                    #338 Bulgaria
                                                    #340 Zimbabwe
                                                    #354 Estonia
                                                    #359 Norway
                                                    #375 India
                                                    #384 South Africa
                                                    #386 Paraguay


                                                    Rocket Man - Number Ones
                                                    #7 Canada

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