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ELTON JOHN - TINY DANCER
Silver Certification (Single) 01 July 2016
UNIVERSAL MUSIC (MERCURY)
Released 26 March 2007
They forgot Your Song certification;
Or the one certified Silver is not The duet with Safina (2002), But The originale; because Your Song has sold more than TD.
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UK TOP 200
51 lw:43 78wks Elton John ~ The Greatest Hits 1970-2002
approx 2000 copies
Usa top 200 Sales
194 JOHN*ELTON|GREATEST HITS 1888 Sales+stream
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BPI certification awards marks
ELTON JOHN - ELTON JOHN LIVE
Silver Certification (Album) 01 March 1979
PICKWICK (Unknown)
Released 01 January 1978
but what album is this?
ELTON JOHN - LONDON & NEW YORK, 1978 (September?)
ELTON JOHN LIVE COLLECTION. 1979 (March?)
They are both published by PICKWICK, but they are just reissues of LIVE&THERE.
I don't understand the BPI award, I think it was for the London&NewYork album, because they say "SILVER certification on March '79", so I can't imagine an award like this for an album just released (I think LIVE COLLECTION was released by March '79), but I don't know....can you confirm this?
The also say "release 01 January 1978", so maybe they don't know the day, but the year was 1978, like LONDON&NEWYORK!
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Uk Top 200 album
43 Elton John [Greatest Hits 1970-2002] lw:167; 77wks in top100
13 top album download re
Approx 2500 Sales
Australia
77 lw:70 127wks Elton John - Rocket Man: The Definitive Hits
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Usa
187 le;191 114wks Greatest Hits 1970-2002 - Elton John - Rocket/UTV | 6xplat
Australia
70 lw:77 126 Elton John - Rocket Man: The Definitive hits 3xplat
On uk iTunes greatest hits in The top 25 for all The week, with peak at 3 on thursday, probable come Back in next top 100
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usa
198 Re-Entry 112 Greatest Hits 1970-2002 - Elton John - Rocket/UTV
Uk
159 re-entry
Australia
80 76 124 Elton John - Rocket Man: The Definitive Hits
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-UK
164 RE Elton John - Rocket Man: The Definitive Hits
-AUSTRALIA
76 lw:72 123wks Elton John - Rocket Man: The Definitive Hits
-top100 ireland
-iTunes Israel peak #2 greatest hits 70-02 ( after Tel Aviv concert with 40000 audience)
6 singles in The top30 ( i guess AND Goodbye in top10)
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UK
156 RE Elton John - The Greatest Hits 1970-2002 5XPLAT
AUSTRALIA
72 lw:63 122 Elton John - Rocket Man: The Definitive Hits 3XPLAT
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BB Boxscores
21 Elton John John Paul Jones Arena Charlottesville, Va. March 19, 2016 $1,102,888 12,818 /
13,166 1 / 0 $150, $25 Live Nation
33 Elton John Germain Arena Estero, Fla. March 9, 2016 $845,293 7,296 /
7,476 1 / 0 $150, $25 Live Nation
35 Elton John Columbus Civic Center Columbus, Ga. March 16, 2016 $836,790 9,064 /
9,415 1 / 0 $150, $25 Live Nation
38 Elton John McKenzie Arena Chattanooga, Tenn. March 12, 2016 $787,275 10,094 /
10,715 1 / 0 $150, $25 Live Nation
45 Elton John Mobile Civic Center Mobile, Ala. March 15, 2016 $747,986 9,227 /
9,459 1 / 0 $150, $25 Live Nation
46 Elton John Covelli Centre Youngstown, Ohio March 22, 2016 $721,201 6,979 /
7,231 1 / 0 $150, $25 Live Nation
49 Elton John Berglund Center Roanoke, Va. March 18, 2016 $664,918 8,482 /
9,174 1 / 0 $150, $25 Live Nation
51 Elton John Freedom Hall Civic Center Johnson City, Tenn. March 11, 2016 $625,494 5,657 /
5,918 1 / 0 $150, $25 Live Nation
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No news...
I was wonderin', how many copies sold approx. the GREATEST HITS vol. II (1977) in UK?
It's GOLD certified by BPI, but it was in October '77
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Originally posted by lucadUK certification today
ORIGINAL CAST RECORDING - BILLY ELLIOT - THE MUSICAL
Silver Certification (Album) 06 May 2016
UNIVERSAL MUSIC (POLYDOR)
> 60.000 copies
Video BE _the musical live was certified PLAT
And yet, no BPI certifications for him, as Sir Elton John.
UK forgot its legend? Last certified award was in 2014 for GH 1970-2002!
Shame!
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Yes. vinyl had less space for songs than a cd, of course.
Blue moves was a double lp, then a single cd, then a double cd.
But this seems it had not happened for GYBRoad Vinyl Sales.
It was first a double lp, then a double cd, then a single cd, now a single + double + box set cd
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Originally posted by lucad-You forget also BLUE MOVES is certified PLAT, but as a double LP has to be re-certified 2 xPLAT
It runs under 100 min so if it would've been released after that then it wouldn't have been eligible for a double cert ( see the case of Aguilera's Back to Basics set for example; it's a 2 CD set but runs under 100 min and it was not from the vinyl era, thus making it ineligible for a double cert).
Blue Moves is then , eligible
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UK certification today
ORIGINAL CAST RECORDING - BILLY ELLIOT - THE MUSICAL
Silver Certification (Album) 06 May 2016
UNIVERSAL MUSIC (POLYDOR)
> 60.000 copies
Video BE _the musical live was certified PLAT
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I'm very pleased too about news certs, but, another time, I have to say that only RIAA updates those kind of awards: where's BPI?
I mean, Elton John is a british legend, how is possible BPI always doesn't certificate his work? Singles like original Your song is clearly SILVER status at least or Don't go breaking my heart now a PLATINUM status (even OOC said that), and albums like Goodbye yellow brick road (with 2014 re-edition) and Rocket Man greatest hits are much more than 1xPLATINUM status; so, we're talkin' about understimate sales and certifications in USA, but we have to talk much more about understimate in UK, his home,
A shame.
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-You forget also BLUE MOVES is certified PLAT, but as a double LP has to be re-certified 2 xPLAT
- Elton john album just GOLD, HONKY CHATEAU just PLAT, 171170 not certified.
- GYBR was certified as a single even in vinyl Sales it seems
-And they not count LION KING as an elton CD.
-Also LIVE in AUSTRALIA (was approx 1.200k + 500k soundscan until 1995) and GREATEST HITS II (last certified in 1998, 5xPL) and ONE NIGHT ONLY-G.HITS (730k in 2001) are near another certification, possibly.
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Anyway, i´m very pleased and excited about the new certs. Some of his records seem to sell on and on.
If the old catalog (Elton John, Tumbleweed, Honky Chateau, Captain Fantastic) would be re-certified Elton would have a higher sales level than Billy Joel and Jacko definetely.
Because Billy has certifications with no relation to effective sales. He benefits from GREATEST HITS VOLUME I & VOLUME II (1985) which is certified by 23 million as a double LP. It went 4x Platinum in April 29, 1991, when soundscan began tracking (counted as one CD). In the soundscan era it only sold 3,474,000 by Jan 2006. But nevertheless it already went 21X Multi-Platinum in August 2, 2000 - a miracle!!! Maybe they not only changed in counting twice but certified it as a 4-CD box set ... I don´t know. Since then there where other Best-Of LPs to follow and they replaced the whereabout LP and you never saw it again on any charts. But not enough: It went 23X Multi-Platinum in October 26, 2011. Ridiculous.
Jacko has all LPs certified correctly. So there is no dark field such big as it is in the case of Elton John. According to effective sales Elton would be all time #6 infront of both of them.
Here´s a comparison by Chris Molanphy | September 17, 2008: It shows how many double albums benefits from RIAA´s system, counting each sold unit twice.
THE RIAA-APPROVED, CORRUPT ALL-TIME LIST
29 Their Greatest Hits 1971–1975, The Eagles
27 Thriller, Michael Jackson
23 Led Zeppelin IV, Led Zeppelin
23 The Wall, Pink Floyd
22 Back in Black, AC/DC
21 Double Live, Garth Brooks
21 Greatest Hits Volume I & Volume II, Billy Joel
20 Come on Over, Shania Twain
19 The Beatles (White Album)
19 Rumours, Fleetwood Mac
17 Boston
17 The Bodyguard, Whitney Houston (Soundtrack)
17 No Fences, Garth Brooks
16 Cracked Rear View, Hootie & the Blowfish
16 Greatest Hits, Elton John
16 Jagged Little Pill, Alanis Morissette
16 Hotel California, The Eagles
16 1967–1970, The Beatles
16 Physical Graffiti, Led Zeppelin
15 1962–1966, The Beatles
15 Born in the U.S.A., Bruce Springsteen
15 Appetite for Destruction, Guns ‘N Roses
15 Dark Side of the Moon, Pink Floyd
15 Saturday Night Fever, The Bee Gees (Soundtrack)
15 Greatest Hits, Journey
15 Supernatural, Santana
THE REVISIONIST, SENSIBLE ALL-TIME LIST
29 Their Greatest Hits 1971–1975, The Eagles
27 Thriller, Michael Jackson
23 Led Zeppelin IV, Led Zeppelin
22 Back in Black, AC/DC
20 Come on Over, Shania Twain
19 Rumours, Fleetwood Mac
17 Boston
17 The Bodyguard, Whitney Houston (Soundtrack)
17 No Fences, Garth Brooks
16 Cracked Rear View, Hootie & the Blowfish
16 Greatest Hits, Elton John
16 Jagged Little Pill, Alanis Morissette
16 Hotel California, The Eagles
15 Born in the U.S.A., Bruce Springsteen
15 Appetite for Destruction, Guns ‘N Roses
15 Dark Side of the Moon, Pink Floyd
15 Greatest Hits, Journey
15 Supernatural, Santana
14 Ropin’ the Wind, Garth Brooks
14 …Baby One More Time, Britney Spears
14 Greatest Hits, Simon & Garfunkel
14 Backstreet Boys
14 Metallica
14 Bat Out of Hell, Meat Loaf
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In 2015, billboard estimate that 90% of Elton music money income, comes from touring
http://www.eltonfan.net/cgi-bin/news/vi ... l=viewnews
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Uk Charts
#176 lw:196 Elton John - Rocket Man: The Definitive Hits 1xPlat
Australia
#67 lw:55 120wks Elton John - Rocket Man: The Definitive 3xPlat
Usa billboard top 200
156 lw:176 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST Hits 1970/2002 6xPlat (new)
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Well, i've explained my point of view .. With cases.. Elvis AND Beatles, well, because their discography is immense. But there are also some over-certified artists in my opinion in the top30 and top10, looking at The catalog charts that i read from years, and from soundscan Sales. But it's not The topic here.
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Originally posted by lucad
So, i think in The top 30 Elton is one of The more undercertified .
Everyone else has 2-3 albums that need updated certifications.
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"THE GREATEST HITS 1970-2002" / double / over 3.000.000
(released NOVEMBER 12, 2002)
6x Multi-Platinum | April 28, 2016
5x Multi-Platinum | February 14, 2011
4x Multi-Platinum | February 14, 2011
3x Multi-Platinum | August 2, 2004
2x Multi-Platinum | March 5, 2003
Platinum | December 13, 2002
Gold | December 13, 2002
"TO BE CONTINUED" / 4cd - BOX SET / over 500.000
(released OCTOBER 31, 2000)
2x Multi-Platinum | April 28, 2016
Platinum | November 28, 2006
Gold | June 23, 1992
"GREATEST HITS" - over 17.000.000
(released NOVEMBER 4, 1974)
17x Multi-Platinum | April 28, 2016
16x Multi-Platinum | May 5, 2003
15x Multi-Platinum | August 21, 1998
13x Multi-Platinum | October 11, 1995
12x Multi-Platinum | September 11, 1995
11x Multi-Platinum | February 7, 1995
10x Multi-Platinum | March 23, 1993
Platinum | March 23, 1993
Gold | November 8, 1974
"ROCKET MAN - NUMBER ONES" / over 2.000.000
(released MARCH 27, 2007)
2x Multi-Platinum | April 28, 2016
Platinum | November 5, 2014
Gold | October 15, 2008
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- Digital singles are undercertified, he has just Tiny Dancer AND Your Song as Platinum Singles. Bennie AND Rocket man ( they were > 900 in 2013) areThe next ones. But think at all The Gold ones.
-Album from 1970 to 1972 are undecertified (Elton John, tumbleweed, honky chateu). Last time The all other catalog was certified was in 1998.
- And Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, his best selling album, was never certified as a double album.
- Total Sales doesn't include 10xPlat Lion King album + other projects with lion king songs.
So, i think in The top 30 Elton is one of The more undercertified .
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^His catalog is so large, there will be many under-certified album and singles.
The same with everyone else in the Top 30 Artists!
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AND it's still under-certified for some catalog albums and singles
TOP US ALBUM OF ALL-TIME
#12. ELTON JOHN GREATEST HITS ISLAND ALBUM 17 X PLAT
MORE DETAILS
(along with other four 17xplat certified albums)
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