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  • EdWood
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    Last week (ending Dec 11) in UK charts:

    125. (95) GREATEST HITS [REMASTERED] (Queen)
    169. (166) GREATEST HITS II [REMASTERED] (Queen)


    No sales for these albums were given but we had 7,383 albums sold at number 70 for Amy Winehouse and 2,194 copies sold at number 153 for Amy Winehouse's 'Frank'.

    My estimates for Greatest Hits ~3,800Greatest Hits 2 ~ 1,850

    This time of the year albums sales are considerable and even decent for albums in the lower reaches of the top 200! An album at number 150 could sell what an album at number 50 sells in February for example.

    I will try and estimate Queen's album sales for this year in the UK and see in January how close I am. It will be difficult due to the reissued albums being released this year and although they did chart poorly, if the hard-core fans picked them up gradually they could still have racked up sales.

    We have both Greatest Hits released in January.
    Then the first batch of 5 studio album rereleased in March.
    Then the 2nd batch in June. The Platinum Collection was also reissued in June.
    Then the final reissued 5 studio albums came out in September.
    I have had some debate with HUR regarding this on Haven and will try and post some estimates soon - I DO think Queen will just about scrape into the top 40 UK album sellers for 2011 with their sales though.

    More soon...

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  • johnnyboy
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    Originally posted by jimmypages59
    You should show this to Johnnyboy as an example of how misleading the bloody OCC can be, with regards to what it prints and what it actually means, as he seems to take anything OCC as his starting point and gospel.
    It should be clear from the thread about the Top 10 of All Time I have huge questions about some of those claims.

    It was misleading of the OCC to give that Top 20 Queen downloads.

    They did a Top 20 ABBA list of singles/downloads and some dodgy stats on there some too high, some too low. So, no I don't take the OCC as 'gospel'.

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  • johnnyboy
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    Originally posted by slightlymad
    Johnnyboy wrote
    Yet another explanation for the OCC's QGH stats.

    3,300,000 up to end 1991. Shipments

    2,150,000 1992-2008. Retail and club sales. (I've estimated retail of 150,000 for first half of 1992.)

    250,000 Retail 2008-2011

    150,000 All sales of GH/GH2

    5,850,000 Total. Roughly what they are saying now.

    My source told me the Platinum Collection was NOT used. If he was right, perhaps the figures were got at like this?????
    Sounds good to me So if we did include The Platinum Collection GH1 would be at 7,250,000 . Fantastic, that will never be surpassed
    Disregard this! I never said I believed that figure. I was basing it on the assumption that it did not include the Platinum Collection - a wrong assumption, or rather misinformation I was given.
    That figure would in any case include club sales + double-counting with shipments + all of GH/GH2. Not very credible.

    The 5.8m or so figure the OCC gives includes The Platinum Collection + GH/GH2 + possibly some shipments. Other albums on the OCC's All Time List only have shop sales, no club sales/shipments..and no other albums added in!!!

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  • rocker99
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    The best selers singles and album in FRANCE in hisotory !!
    #56 Queen with TOTAL sold albums and singles = 7'948'587
    and ....
    Singles = 2'225'520

    Albums = 5'723'067 http://www.infodisc.fr/Artiste_Ventes.php

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  • john2000
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    Originally posted by zeus555
    UK Sales from 'The Platinum Collection' were added
    to 'Greatest Hits', (1981), & 'Greatest Hits II',
    (1991). They got, (if I recall correctly), 566,000
    Sales each from the Triple Set. (Maybe 560,000 each).

    Both The OCC & Alan Jones have confirmed this.
    Alan should know - he helped to compile the November
    2006 Top 100 Albums Chart, that had those Sales
    added in. (At first The OCC said they had not been
    added in, but that is because I was asking one
    person there, & people forget that several people
    work there, & they do not all know what decisions
    were made about these matters).
    Would be better to release 2 charts one with GH1 only and one adding GH1 + GH1&GH2 + PC
    but definitely adding 1/3 of PC is stupid

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  • zeus555
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    UK Sales from 'The Platinum Collection' were added
    to 'Greatest Hits', (1981), & 'Greatest Hits II',
    (1991). They got, (if I recall correctly), 566,000
    Sales each from the Triple Set. (Maybe 560,000 each).

    Both The OCC & Alan Jones have confirmed this.
    Alan should know - he helped to compile the November
    2006 Top 100 Albums Chart, that had those Sales
    added in. (At first The OCC said they had not been
    added in, but that is because I was asking one
    person there, & people forget that several people
    work there, & they do not all know what decisions
    were made about these matters).

    NEW UK QUEEN SALES TOTALS IN EARLY 2012

    I'll get up-dated Download Sales for all of Queen's
    UK Singles, in early 2012. With a closing Date of
    the final Sales Chart of 2011.


    NOTE - I asked for them earlier this Year,
    but I only asked for Sales of about 66% of their UK
    Hits. It is my fault that the Sales Data was
    misleading. I foolishly called the resulting List,
    Queen's Best Selling UK Downloads. I should have
    said that they were only the 66% of the Hits that
    I'd asked about! So, it is not The OCC's fault that
    the List was misleading. It is mine. I'm very sorry
    about that. I did it without thinking, & not on
    purpose, to mislead people.

    But, in early 2012, I'll ask them for the Download
    Sales of ALL of Queen's UK Singles.

    The OCC have told me, (3 people there), that I can
    ask them this in January. They said they'd get back
    to me ASAP with the Sales Totals.

    I'll also ask them for up-to-date Sales of Queen's
    Albums - the 'Re-Masters'. Plus where the 3 'Hits'
    Albums, & 'Made In Heaven', 'The Platinum Collection'
    & 'Absolute Greatest' are up to, (Totals), in UK Sales.

    Plus Queen's Total 'Download' Sales since The OCC
    began monitoring them. (Which I think was in September 2004).

    If anyone wishes to add to what I ask The OCC,
    (about Queen), then please let me know.


    Zeus555

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  • loris39
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    Various charts...

    South Korea #45 Greatest Hits
    Netherlands - Albums - #61 Platinum Collection
    Netherlands - DVD - #17 Live at Wembley
    Poland - albums - #45 Platinum Collection
    Poland - Top 100 Shipments - #57 Platinum Collection
    Spain - Albums - #40 Platinum Collection
    Spain - DVD - #15 Days of Our Lives
    Belgium (Wallonia) - albums - #7 Platinum Collection
    Belgium (Wallonia) - DVD - #6 Live at Wembley
    Belgium (Flanders) - albums - #23 Platinum Collection and #93 Greatest Hits
    Belgium (Flanders) - DVD - #7 Live at Wembley
    Switzerland - DVD - #10 Days of Our Lives
    Portugal - DVD - #12 Live at Wembley and #28 Days of Our Lives
    Italy - DVD - #8 Days of Our Lives
    Canada - Albums - #152 Absolute Greatest
    Germany - DVD - #13 Days of Our Lives and #18 Live at Wembley

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  • arab
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    Poland
    Live At Wembley Stadium <Gold>

    http://www.zpav.pl/rankingi/wyroznienia/zlote/dvd.php

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  • HUR
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    Thank you, MFR. Those sales don't match the ones published by Hit Music in later years either (1,870,000 in March 1995 and 1,990,000 in May 1996 if I remember well).

    Originally posted by loris39
    Belgium (Wallonia):

    Platinum Collection #7
    Greatest Hits #82
    Thank you, Loris. New peak position for "Platinum Collection" in Wallonia. I'm sure it has now sold 100,000 in the whole of Belgium (it was on 60,000 by early 2004, and it has continued to do very well since then).

    I recommend you to take a look at the back catalogue singles charts this week too. Some nice surprises there too.

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  • loris39
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    Various charts...

    Belgium (Flanders):

    Platinum Collection #24
    Greatest Hits #74

    Belgium (Wallonia):

    Platinum Collection #7
    Greatest Hits #82

    Netherlands:

    Platinum Collection #60

    Spain:

    Platinum Collection #63

    Poland:

    Platinum Collection #50

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  • MFR
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    As requested - a look at what Greatest Hits I and II had sold in the UK in the early 1990s while Gallup were still the chart compilers.

    Sales from this period are hard to come by, particularly for 1990 to 1992. In the September 25th, 1993 issue of Hit Music they published the top 75 albums from January 1990 to September 11th 1993.

    Greatest Hits II was number 5 in the rankings and Greatest Hits I was number 29. Sales were only hinted at.

    The top 10 was -

    1 Stars - Simply Red (over 2,500,000 sold)
    2 The Immaculate Collection - Madonna (over 2 million)
    3 The Very Best Of - Elton John (over 1,500,000)
    4 Dangerous - Michael Jackson (over 1,500,000)
    5 Greatest Hits II - Queen (over 1,500,000)
    6 In Concert - Pavarotti / Domingo / Carreras (over 1,000,000)
    7 The Bodyguard - Various (over 1,000,000)
    8 Greatest Hits - Eurythmics (over 1,000,000)
    9 Simply The Best - Tina Turner (over 1,000,000)
    10 ...But Seriously - Phil Collins (over 1,000,000)

    Within a few weeks of the chart being published the number 28 (Waking Up The Neighbours by Bryan Adams) was reported by the same publication as having sold 800,000, so Greatest Hits I must also have sold approximately that, too, within the time period covered by this chart.

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  • slightlymad
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    Johnnyboy wrote
    Yet another explanation for the OCC's QGH stats.

    3,300,000 up to end 1991. Shipments

    2,150,000 1992-2008. Retail and club sales. (I've estimated retail of 150,000 for first half of 1992.)

    250,000 Retail 2008-2011

    150,000 All sales of GH/GH2

    5,850,000 Total. Roughly what they are saying now.

    My source told me the Platinum Collection was NOT used. If he was right, perhaps the figures were got at like this?????
    Sounds good to me So if we did include The Platinum Collection GH1 would be at 7,250,000 . Fantastic, that will never be surpassed

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  • HUR
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    Yes, you are right. In my case, I admit I sometimes quote some dodgy figures coming from magazines, that don't have much sustance around. But I generally do that in lack of something better. I wish I had a contact like you in just about every country, or at least the most important ones.

    But I do agree with what you are saying on the whole.

    Originally posted by loris39
    Queen sales digital tracks USA:

    Bohemian Rhapsody has sold 2,643,000
    We Will Rock You has sold 2,285,000
    We Are The Champions has sold 1,467,000
    Thank you, Loris. These are the most updated figures we know about. Sales in the USA:

    Bohemian Rhapsody: 2,643,000
    We Will Rock You: 2,285,000
    We Are The Champions: 1,467,000
    Under Pressure: 1,167,000
    Another One Bites The Dust: 1,156,000
    Fat Bottomed Girls: 640,000
    Somebody To Love: 572,000
    Killer Queen: 485,000
    You're My Best Friend: 455,000
    Crazy Little Thing Called Love: 403,000

    Total for those ten songs: 11,273,000

    Except for "Bohemian Rhapsody", "We Will Rock You" and "We Are The Champions", all of the others are from August to September 2010. So more than a year of missing sales. The real sales of those ten songs is probably 11,500,000 copies since 2003 to now. Total sales counting their whole catalogue? Maybe 13,000,000 to 14,000,000.

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  • jimmypages59
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    Hi Hur, yeah I have to admit the list just didn't look correct to me, but rather than comment, I thought I'd just direct you Queen guys to it's existence and publishing.

    You should show this to Johnnyboy as an example of how misleading the bloody OCC can be, with regards to what it prints and what it actually means, as he seems to take anything OCC as his starting point and gospel.

    I personally think people of this forum (well certain people) have a far better grasp of sales figures and are more well versed in them, than the OCC. We understand things from different perspectives and carry out detailed and in depth research and analysis to get to our figures, not just accepting because it has OCC against it.

    Cidermaster on the Zep thread is a nightmare for just pulling sales quotes from magazines, books (even thin air sometimes!) and presenting them as gospel, "because Music Week said so" or "because Murrels said so", he does not have the conviction to actually pull these quotes apart to see if they do make sense and CAN be true, he just has this "it comes from (name of organisation) so it must be true" outlook on all this.

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  • HUR
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    Originally posted by jimmypages59
    Queen frontman Freddie Mercury passed away 20 years ago today (November 24, 1991). He was 45.

    Over the course of his all too short career, Mercury enjoyed a great deal of chart success, both with Queen and as a solo artist. In total he clocked up 15 Top 10 studio albums (including seven Number 1 albums) and 28 Top 10 singles (including five Number 1s).

    To commemorate the anniversary of his death, the Official Charts Company have compiled a list of the UK’s most downloaded Queen tracks.

    The Top 20 is as follows:

    01 DON'T STOP ME NOW
    02 HEAVEN FOR EVERYONE
    03 BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
    04 A WINTER'S TALE
    05 WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
    06 WE WILL ROCK YOU
    07 I WANT TO BREAK FREE
    08 TOO MUCH LOVE WILL KILL YOU
    09 WHO WANTS TO LIVE FOREVER
    10 ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST
    11 A KIND OF MAGIC
    12 SOMEBODY TO LOVE
    13 LET ME LIVE
    14 RADIO GA GA
    15 THESE ARE THE DAYS OF OUR LIVES
    16 YOU DON'T FOOL ME
    17 CRAZY LITTLE THING CALLED LOVE
    18 KILLER QUEEN
    19 FAT BOTTOMED GIRLS
    20 THE SHOW MUST GO ON

    http://www.theofficialcharts.com/chart- ... en-tracks/
    Hello Jimmy,

    Thank you for this list, it is very interesting.

    Unfortunately, the Official Chart Company has got it wrong. These aren't their most downloaded songs. These are probably just their best selling singles (physical and digital combined) in the OCC era, from early 1994 to 2011.

    That is why the singles from "Made In Heaven" (the only studio album they released after 1994) are all so high, despite not having really sold well as digital tracks.

    In terms of digital sales, "Heaven For Everyone" has only sold 4,000 copies; "A Winter's Tale" did 4,000 too; and "Let Me Live" a mere 1,000 units.

    As far as their physical sales are concerned, this is what they have sold:

    Heaven For Everyone: 320,000
    A Winter's Take: 160,000
    Too Much Love Will Kill You: 60,000
    Let Me Live: 50,000
    You Don't Fool Me: 40,000

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  • arab
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    US

    Top Catalog
    91 QUEEN GREATEST HITS 4919 335 1130 6906075
    92 QUEEN GREATEST HITS-WE WILL ROCK YOU 4909 370 1044 1032350

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  • HUR
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    Originally posted by arab
    Both GH and GH2 should stand at ~5.9 and 3.9mln respectively
    No, I don't think they sold that many, not even close.

    It is obvious, to me, that "Greatest Hits" has sold 4,800,000 to 5,000,000 in the UK (in terms of net shipments, and counting sales through shops and clubs); while "Greatest Hits II" has probably sold 2,900,000 to 3,000,000.

    I wrote this and posted it several times in this forum. I don't have all the numbers, but I think I'm as close as I can with these sales.

    Here is my take on Queen's "Greatest Hits", for anyone interested:

    Greatest Hits: 4,800,000
    Greatest Hits II: 3,000,000

    I will use some of Jimmy's net shipments figures. Those who aren't familiar with what I'm talking about, see here: http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.p ... start=1775

    "Greatest Hits" had net shipments of 1,828,375 copies by the end of 1986. This is from EMI's documents and paperwork and was announced in several Queen related books. I think that figure was printed in an issue of the magazine Record Mirror.

    Furthermore, it sold 1,994,263 copies during the period between July 1992 and 2008. This denotes a minimum of 3,822,638 copies, which includes nearly 22 years of sales. These are net shipments totals.

    What is missing from that above? The following years: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1991, and the first semester of 1992. Well, club sales for the second half of 1992 and the first one of 1993 are equally missing.

    1987
    It sold 170,000 copies.

    1988
    It failed to make the annual chart.

    1989
    It failed to make the annual chart.

    1990
    It failed to make the annual chart.

    My best guess is that it sold between 50,000 and 100,000 copies in each one of those three years. So I would estimate 75,000 for each one, which would add up a further 225,000 for the period (1988, 1989 and 1990).

    1991
    It charted at #25 on the annual chart. Sales would have been nearly 400,000 copies.

    First semester of 1992

    I estimate it at 150,000 (given that it sold 152,652 during the second part of 1992). For what it's worth, it charted at #39 on the annual chart of 1992 (with Various Artists compilations included).

    So, for the whole period between 1987 and June 1992, we would have 945,000 copies (estimated). Combine that with the confirmed 3,822,638, which I already mentioned, and we get 4,760,000 copies or so.

    Adding the missing club sales (1991, 1992 and part of 1993), "Greatest Hits" sold 4,800,000 copies, overall. With 2009, 2010 and 2011 unaccounted for. It was certified platinum 11 times over in January 1992.

    "Greatest Hits II" was certified quadruple platinum in December 1991 (1,200,000 copies) and then quintuple platinum in June 1992 (1,500,000) according to BPI. It sold 1,837,607 copies, according to Jimmy’s sets of figures.

    From annual net shipments figures, we know it is supposed to have sold 518,472 during the second half of 1992 (July to December). However, I believe that figure involves the whole year. Jimmy's sales numbers are "delayed shipments figures" in the sense that there is sometimes a sort of delay in the reporting (this means that some copies may be shipped in a year without being reported or notified until the following one). In the particular case of Queen's "Greatest Hits II", I guess the first set of figures will have been sent in about October 1992, supposedly covering the three previous months (the third quarter: July, August and September) but actually including some totals from an earlier period of time (the first semester of 1992).

    In this case, I would recommend the quadruple platinum (achieved in December 1991) to be used as a basis and then combined with Jimmy's net shipments (1992 to 2008). Even if it isn't entirely correct as the nature of those sales is different.

    So 1,200,000 copies by the end of 1992, plus 1,837,607 copies sold (net shipments) for the 17 years between 1992 and 2008. This gives an overall total of 3,037,607 copies. Some club sales are supposed to be missing, in addition to the last two years.

    I estimate 3,000,000 for practical reasons.

    So I estimate "Greatest Hits" to be at 4,800,000 copies sold and "Greatest Hits II" to be at 3,000,000. A grand total of over 25,000,000 or so for their whole catalogue. Anyone agrees? What do you think? I obviously accept critics.

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  • arab
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    Both GH and GH2 should stand at ~5.9 and 3.9mln respectively

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  • slightlymad
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    Queen's Greatest Hits back in UK charts

    92(125) Queen - Greatest Hits

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  • rocker99
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    Top 40 Best Selling Albums 28 July 1956 – 14 June 2009 in UK in history

    #1 GREATEST HITS QUEEN 1981 5,678,610 copies sold

    #8. GREATEST HITS II QUEEN 2000 3,746,404 copies sold

    http://www.bpi.co.uk/assets/files/top%2040%20albums.pdf

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  • loris39
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    Queen sales digital tracks USA:

    Bohemian Rhapsody has sold 2,643,000
    We Will Rock You has sold 2,285,000
    We Are The Champions has sold 1,467,000

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  • slightlymad
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    Originally posted by HUR
    Some of them are a bit conservative (others not). They are all estimations:

    Queen: 2,000,000
    Queen II: 2,000,000
    Sheer Heart Attack: 2,500,000
    A Night At The Opera: 8,000,000
    A Day At The Races: 3,000,000
    News Of The World: 8,000,000
    Jazz: 3,500,000
    Live Killers: 3,000,000
    The Game: 7,000,000
    Flash Gordon: 2,000,000
    Greatest Hits: 26,000,000
    Hot Space: 2,500,000
    The Works: 3,500,000
    A Kind Of Magic: 5,000,000
    Live Magic: 2,500,000
    The Miracle: 3,000,000
    Innuendo: 4,000,000
    Greatest Hits II: 19,000,000
    Live At Wembley '86: 3,000,000
    Five Live: 2,000,000
    Greatest Hits I & II: 3,000,000
    Made In Haeven: 7,500,000
    Queen Rocks: 1,000,000
    Greatest Hits III: 2,000,000
    Platinum Collection: 5,000,000
    Absolute Greatest: 1,300,000
    Others: 7,000,000

    Total: something like 137,000,000 (plus nearly 10,000,000 music videos)

    Singles (digital included): 65,000,000
    Just watched the new Queen DVD - Days Of Our Lives and in a section about Made In Heaven it clearly states that the album has sold in excess of 20million copies and this is an official Queen product!!

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  • HUR
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    Freddie, forever in my heart.

    Originally posted by slightlymad
    Originally posted by VideoKid
    Does anyone have the total number of worldwide sales for all Queen studio albums + major compilations (Greatest Hits, Greatest Hits II)?
    Over to you HUR
    Some of them are a bit conservative (others not). They are all estimations:

    Queen: 2,000,000
    Queen II: 2,000,000
    Sheer Heart Attack: 2,500,000
    A Night At The Opera: 8,000,000
    A Day At The Races: 3,000,000
    News Of The World: 8,000,000
    Jazz: 3,500,000
    Live Killers: 3,000,000
    The Game: 7,000,000
    Flash Gordon: 2,000,000
    Greatest Hits: 26,000,000
    Hot Space: 2,500,000
    The Works: 3,500,000
    A Kind Of Magic: 5,000,000
    Live Magic: 2,500,000
    The Miracle: 3,000,000
    Innuendo: 4,000,000
    Greatest Hits II: 19,000,000
    Live At Wembley '86: 3,000,000
    Five Live: 2,000,000
    Greatest Hits I & II: 3,000,000
    Made In Haeven: 7,500,000
    Queen Rocks: 1,000,000
    Greatest Hits III: 2,000,000
    Platinum Collection: 5,000,000
    Absolute Greatest: 1,300,000
    Others: 7,000,000

    Total: something like 137,000,000 (plus nearly 10,000,000 music videos)

    Singles (digital included): 65,000,000

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  • jimmypages59
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    I don't, I count 7 (STUDIO ALBUMS) and 2 (GREATEST HITS ALBUMS).

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  • Lawyeris
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    Wonder, why just 7 No 1 albums? I counted 9.

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