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  • jimmypages59
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    Missed this one out earlier from the UK Album Chart

    67 N 1 Queen Greatest Hits II Various Parlophone Cdpmtv2 EMI

    C-lebrity has completely left the Top 75, don't know how low it has fallen.

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  • HUR
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    It means the Platinum collection sold 99,500 copies so far this year in UK (estimated by Dave on haven). Shipments for that album are close to 1,800,000 copies overall.

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  • Lawyeris
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    Originally posted by HUR
    Greatest Hits I,II & III - Queen 99,500

    This is for UK. Thanks to Dave on haven.
    What does this number mean? Only this year sales, or what?

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  • HUR
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    Greatest Hits I,II & III - Queen 99,500

    This is for UK. Thanks to Dave on haven.

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  • borderwolf
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    U.K.

    31. (51) GREATEST HITS (Queen)

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  • HUR
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    I have now re-estimated Queen´s "Greatest hits 1" in Netherlands, and used 155,481 (CDs only) for the period between 1994 and february 2004. That´s an average of roughly 15k by year (which doesn´t necessarily mean it sells uniformly the same each year). If it was at 155,481 with average by february 2004, that would bring to about 215,000 copies sold from 1994 to this year so far (just counting CDs sales). Adding cassettes and vinyls for the period, it is more likey at 250,000. So by periods:

    1981-1982: 150,000
    1991-1992: 150,000
    1993: 40,000
    1994-this year: 250,000 (including at least 155,481 CDs only).

    Combining all the above total (590,000) with catalog sales between 1983 and 1990, I have it now at 700,000 copies there.

    So my overall estimations for this album in Europe now looks like this:

    UK: 5,500,000
    Netherlands: 700,000
    Switzerland: 300,000
    Germany: 2,000,000+
    Spain: 450,000
    Italy: 400,000
    Sweden: 150,000
    Finland: 70,000 (including 55,000 CDs sold since 1984)
    Austria: 250,000 (it charted at #25 this year)
    France: 600,000

    This is roughly 10,420,000 overall. Adding the rest of the continent, like MJDangerous, that takes up to about 12,500,000.

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  • HUR
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    Originally posted by nelson
    Originally posted by HUR
    But if you missed that post, tell me and I will send you again.
    I want.
    This is what I posted:

    New Zeland (up to 2003, according to EMI):

    Greatest Hits 142,436 9 x Platinum

    Greatest Hits 2 151,458 10 x Platinum

    Greatest Hits 3 16,732 1 x Platinum

    Greatest Hits 1 & 2 65,719 4 x Platinum

    Platinum Collection 20,652 1 x Platinum

    The Works 24,041 1 x Platinum

    A Kind Of Magic 35,023 2 x Platinum

    Live Magic 22,895 1 x Platinum

    The Miracle 29,044 1 x Platinum

    Made In Heaven 54,062 3 x Platinum

    Innuendo 15,415 1 x Platinum

    Live At Wembley 17,208 1 x Platinum

    Queen rocks - 7,500 (gold)
    The game - 10,000 (1980, gold)


    There is an important remark about Spain. In december 2004, EMI provided the following information from their very first ever cd there in 1985 (Greatest hits, re-issued from 1981) to their last:

    1985 – Greatest hits I - 182,700
    1986 – A kind of magic - 207,695
    1986 – Live magic – 109,418
    1989 – The miracle – 164,969
    1991 – Innuendo – 137,861
    1991 – Greatest hits II – 660,606
    1992 – Live at wembley ’86 – 202,278
    1994 – Greatest hits I & II – 198,260
    1995 – Made in heaven –281,785
    1997 – Queen Rocks – 74,203
    1999 – Greatest hits III – 85,633
    2000 – Platinum collection – 197,591
    2004 – Queen on fire – 33,000

    Total: 2,536,000

    However, in a press release, they stated that their total albums sales (cds only yet again) was as much as 3,200,000. I hold an email from EMI marketing Spain, claiming that the others 664,000 were sold via their old albums switched to cd. This actually means that their old album put together (counting "Queen" from 1973 to "The works") sold combined a minimun of 664,000 cds only which would mean roughly 700,000 copies sold counting all formats (cds, cassettes and vinyls). Those were re-issued in 1986, so this figures goes back to that year. So around 700k for 12 albums (10 studio albums, one live albums, and 1 soundtrack) between 1986 to 2004. Not that it is particularly strong but pretty decent in my opinion.

    Here some official numbers from EMI for Australia:

    1984 - A night at the opera - 70,000 (since 1984)
    1984- Greatest hits - 1,000,000 (since 1984)
    1984 - The works - 70,000
    1986 - A kind of magic - 70,000
    1986 - Live magic - 35,000
    2000 - Platinum collection 70,000

    "A night at the opera" was released in 1975 and "Greatest hits 1" in 1981. However, those sales above are since 1984...

    This is all thanks to Braca.

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  • nelson
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    Originally posted by HUR
    But if you missed that post, tell me and I will send you again.
    I want.

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  • borderwolf
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    Korea
    Hanteo weekly chart

    #13 Gratest Hits vol. 1-2-3
    The Platinum Collection
    (over 200 copies)

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  • HUR
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    And yes Queen are truly gigantic in central Europe. I wonder how their worldwide sales should look if their success was all around the world as big as in Netherlands/Switz/Ger/Austria
    More than the Beatles.

    Latin and dutch markets really love Queen.

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  • MJDangerous
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    Originally posted by HUR
    OK, but still, even if I use the 155k (for the period between 1994 and may 2003), that would mean I only have to remove 125-150k from estimation, which is more than enough to be in the range of 750-800k over there. Still huge, and certainly one of the best selling albums in Netherlands, with Meat Loaf and Micheal Jackson´s "Thriller".
    The figure of 75k and sales pre-91 look high too. But I estimated it already at 550K about 3 years ago, so whatever definitely it is among the alltime best selling albums in Netherlands.

    And yes Queen are truly gigantic in central Europe. I wonder how their worldwide sales should look if their success was all around the world as big as in Netherlands/Switz/Ger/Austria

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  • HUR
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    OK, but still, even if I use the 155k (for the period between 1994 and may 2003), that would mean I only have to remove 125-150k from estimation, which is more than enough to be in the range of 750-800k over there. Still huge, and certainly one of the best selling albums in Netherlands, with Meat Loaf and Micheal Jackson´s "Thriller".

    I think that Queen are probably the best selling band in that region, overall, like Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands, and Belgium, apart from Germany, that´s the reason why I tend to believe this kind of figures. If we were talking about USA or Canada, I would obviously question them...

    When you decide to update Queen, let me know it please, as there are a couple of figures or interesting charts facts that may help you. I posted loads of details on chartsinfrance but I have even more. But if you missed that post, tell me and I will send you again.

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  • MJDangerous
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    Well, you said that 2 Plat over 10 years doesn't sound much, just think that a Plat award is about 3 times harder to reach in Netherlands rather than in the US. Your estimate of 300K is like 9 million in the US, almost close to one million every year

    Oh & btw, don't worry, I promise to fully update my Queen figures so I will done it

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  • HUR
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    Originally posted by MJDangerous
    All figures that look correct were from the spreadsheet , while the data shown on the said mail looks truly utopic, like 900k for GHII from 94 to 2003, that figure definitely doesn't make sense.
    You have to put the figure in perspective, 500 copies per week is equal to 12-14K per week on average in the US. So even if the album isn't avalaible to chart in the catalog chart (and I'm almost sure it can) it should be much more regularly in the top 100, especialy during summer/Jan,Feb.

    If you check figures, GH 1+2 sold 119k according to the spreadsheet, which makes perfect sense since it was certified Plat in 98. Between 94 and 99 (until the release of PC) it performed a lot better than GH, charting in 94, 95, 96 and 99.
    If you want to believe that, no problem. Personally, I go with EMI´s sales figure. But I will check it, of course, but believe what you want.

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  • MJDangerous
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    All figures that look correct were from the spreadsheet , while the data shown on the said mail looks truly utopic, like 900k for GHII from 94 to 2003, that figure definitely doesn't make sense.
    You have to put the figure in perspective, 500 copies per week is equal to 12-14K per week on average in the US. So even if the album isn't avalaible to chart in the catalog chart (and I'm almost sure it can) it should be much more regularly in the top 100, especialy during summer/Jan,Feb.

    If you check figures, GH 1+2 sold 119k according to the spreadsheet, which makes perfect sense since it was certified Plat in 98. Between 94 and 99 (until the release of PC) it performed a lot better than GH, charting in 94, 95, 96 and 99.

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  • HUR
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    MJD mate, my reply here:

    The sales figures you quoted in the other topic were posted by me, and I took them all from the Queen site caal.net. It was in 2006, and the site quotes both figures: 155k and 242k. In 2006, the reason I went for that numbers was because I thought it was good to use the lowest one, you know, when there is a conflict between two different sales figures, it is better to go with the lowets one...

    But later in that year, Nick (Braca), who holds all those mails from EMI Marketin in Netherlands, made his own breakdown on Queen for that country. And he wrote this: " I also have an email from emi (Jun 2003) which states that ‘242.429 CDs are sold, and that an enormous no of vinyl album had been sold’. A later email stated that they can only look back to early 94 (so the spreadsheet be incomplete? Even from 94 onwards)" http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.p ... &start=225

    So since I read that, I went for the highest one, the figure of 242,429 for the aforementioned period. I know it looks too high, but this is what we have. I don´t understand what´s the problem with it, as 200k would have been just enough for a double platinum over there back in the 90´s and this album has been such a monster catalog seller everywhere that it doesn´t surprise me really. Remember that Queen are a huge band in Netherlands and "germanic" countries.

    In Germany, they are certified at 10,500,000 according to IFPI (just a missing certifications) and have now sold around 16 millions copies, probably more than any other band.

    In Australia too, you would never believe it sold around 1,200,000 based on charts performance, "only" #2 and just 103+ weeks inside the top 100 (not really so recurrent for such a big album). By comparison, "Brothers in arms" sold slightly less, inspite of the fact it charted 38 weeks at numeber one and a good catalog seller (maybe not huge, but more than decent).

    As for the "back catalog chart" in Netherlands, isn´t it meant to be a "mid-price charts" in reality like in France?. I mean, isn´t it just for albums that are sold at small prices?. Maybe Queen´s "Greatest hits 1" is being sold at a normal price, and therefore it can´t chart inside the top 40 catalog, and it doesn´t sell enough to make the top 100 (along with current albums).

    I will ask Braca, though, to be sure. But at the moment, I go with my own figure, sorry . This happenned because I asked for you to gauge their sales and update your breakdown, but you refused to do it. So I had to do it myself, and well, maybe it was a disaster. But well, you are like the only chart expert interested in Queen, so well tell me, if it didn´t sell 900,000, how much has it sold over there?.

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  • EdWood
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    In UK singles chart this week:

    121. (124) DON’T STOP ME NOW (Queen)


    UK album charts:

    143. (147) GREATEST HITS I II & III (Queen)

    Greatest Hits is at number 51 and should be rising to at least number 28 this week in the charts for its 464th week on the official UK album chart - only 14 weeks behind Fleetwood Mac's all time longevity champion, 'Rumours'

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  • HUR
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    "Greatest hits 2" is curently at #12 in daily korean charts...

    In the weekly charts - Korea

    #12 - Platinum Collection (up from #17)

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  • HUR
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    Guys, I have now estimated all Queen DVDs again, and I updated my own numbers from last year (that were mainly related to certifications). Please, those who hate conjectures and guesswork, don´t read, although I used every information available (thank to Braca, Jimmypage59, and Bestiamodesta):

    -We will rock you: 450,000
    -The Freddie Mercury tribute concert: 300,000
    -Greatest video hits 1: 1,000,000
    -Live at wembley ´86: 1,800,000
    -Greatest video hits 2: 550,000
    -Queen on fire: 800,000
    -Return of the champions: 340,000
    -A night at the opera: 190,000
    -Queen rock montreal: 370,000
    -Others: 150,000

    Total: 5,950,000

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  • HUR
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    SINGLES:
    - QUEEN VS THE MIAMI PROJECT: ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST: 4 weeks, No. 2. (it was a surprise for me...)
    Yes, it reached #2 in Hungary. Apart from that, it went #3 in Finland, #9 In Spain, #13 in Denmark, and top 30 or top 40 in many parts of Europe...

    For a minor release, it isn´t bad, really.

    So far this very decade, Queen achived at least 5 number one with their old songs when covered, remixed or re-issued by other acts:

    -We will rock you (Five): #1 (UK)
    -I was born to love you (Queen): #1 (Japan, international official singles chart)
    -We are the champions (Crazy frog): #1 (France)
    -Don´t stop me now (McFly): #1 (UK)
    -The show must go on: #1 (Spain)

    Also:

    We will rock you (pub evian): #2 (France)
    Another one bites the dust: #2 (Hungary)
    Bohemian Rhapsody: #7 (UK)

    And there are more...

    All those peaks are right for Hungary. I even read claims about Greatest hits 2 being the best selling international album over there since 1990. It sold probably over 100,000 copies.

    "Live in Europe" is indeed a bootleg, I guess, several imports and unofficial releases have been selling decently well in many countries.

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  • Lawyeris
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    Look what I found in queenzone forum:

    Hi Greg, just to let you know: here in Hungary there were no "official" charts when Queen made records. The association of the Hungarian record companies (MAHASZ) started to issue official charts in the beginning of the 90's. You can find their archives here: http://www.mahasz.hu/m/?menu=slagerlist ... 2=archivum
    But it is in Hungarian...:(

    I made a quich search for you, and I found these after 1990:

    ALBUMS:
    - Greatest Hits: 18 weeks, No. 12
    - Greatest Hits II: 78 weeks, No. 1
    - Greatest Hits III: 16 weeks, No. 7
    - Innuendo: 32 weeks, No. 3
    - Live at Wembley '86: 20 weeks, No. 3
    - The Miracle: 2 weeks, No. 36

    DVD:
    - Greatest Video Hits I: 7 weeks, No. 8
    - Greatest Video Hits: 5 weeks, No. 16
    - Live At Wembley: 12 weeks, No. 7
    - Live In Europe (it seems to be a bootleg...): 4 weeks, No. 7
    - On Fire: 27 weeks, No. 5
    - Return Of The Champions: 3 weeks, No. 17

    SINGLES:
    - QUEEN VS THE MIAMI PROJECT: ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST: 4 weeks, No. 2. (it was a surprise for me...)

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  • HUR
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    Guys I have estimated, with full details, the sales of Queen´s "Greatest hits 1" worldwide. Whether the method I use, even if I´m happy with the results, it is very difficult to come up with an accurate number. So I need your help.

    North America:
    USA: 9,800,000
    Canada: 1,500,000

    In USA, it was certified 7 times platinum in december 2002 for sales of 7,000,000 copies shipped over there. It scanned 2,612,120 from february 2003 to may 2008, which would bring our total uo to 9,612,120 overall. With a few sales during the end of 2002 and early 2003, as well as some catalog sales do far this year from may up to now, I put it at 9,800,000 in USA...

    Canada, it is 800,000 at least adding its triple platinum certification from april 1993 (for sales of 300,000 copies) and 500,000 copies shipped while under contract with Universal music, from november 1998 to march 2007. This is all for 1992´s issue (!). Adding its original sales, including the firs version (from 1981 to 1990), catalog sales from april 1993 to november 1998, and the last version (released in 2004 as “We will rock you”), this should be at about 1,500,000.

    Oceania:
    Australia: 1,200,000
    New Zealand: 190,000+

    In Australia, it sold over a million from 1984 to 2007, as reported by their record label, EMI, which picked up their back catalog back in 1984. The album was #2 and spent 103+ weeks inside the charts, with a recent boost that allowed it to be 5 weeks in the charts...

    In New Zealand, it was certified 10 times platinum recently (it had actually shipped 142,000 copies by december 2003) and I estimated it 160,000 adding back catalog in the last few years as this album is contianually selling over there. It is also certified since 1984 because their recod company also picked up their catalog in the same year as in Australia. It was #1 back in 1981 (during 5 weeks and spent 50+ weeks inside the charts).

    Latin America: 1,700,000
    Brazil: 500,000
    Mexico: 250,000+
    Argentina: 700,000

    Read my post about their sales in Latin America in the page 148 of this topic...

    Japan: 600,000

    It sold 102,000 copies in its first 5 months of release, just with LPs counted. I assume that with cassettes, imports, and sales while outside the top 100, this album had shipped around 200,000 copies by the end of 1982...

    The re-issue of 2001 sold 41,000 copies in just a few weeks, and with further catalog sales once it dropped of the charts, it sold around 100,000+ on catalog (it was probably a good catalog seller at least until “Jewels” came out in 2004). So around 300,000+ just counting 1981-1982 and 2001-to present.

    With catalog sales from 1983 to 2001 (which are imposibble to know accurately though), and assuming an average of 10-20k by year, I think this album sold 600,000 copie so far in Japan.

    South Africa: 100,000+

    Europe: 12,700,000
    UK: 5,500,000
    Netherlands: 900,000*
    Switzerland: 300,000
    Germany: 2,000,000+**
    Italy: 400,000
    France: 600,000
    Finland: 70,000 (including 55,000 CDs from 1984 up to now)
    Austria: 250,000
    Sweden: 150,000
    Spain: 450,000***

    *It sold 242,429 CDs from 1994 to may 2003 (not counting other formats). Certified platinum in 1991.
    **It was certified 3 times platinum in 1993, and picked up strong catalog sales, specially in 1996, 1997, 1998 and 2006...
    ***It sold 182,700 copies on CDs (not counting other formats) from january 1985 to december 2004. It was #1 in 1982 and certified gold for sales of 50,000 copies.

    I use MJDangerous´s formula to come up with a rough estimate of the rest of Europe...

    Asia (without counting Japan): 2,000,000+
    Korea: 600,000 (it sold 536,546 by october 2002)
    Singapore: 20,000+
    Honk Kong: 10,000+

    These three countries, altogether, represent as much as a 33% of the total sales in that part of Asia, which would denote sales of around 2,000,000 for the region (not Japan in).

    The rest of the world: 500,000+

    We know very little, although it would be very interesting to know how much local versions did in certain countries, specially knowing they were a global selling band...

    To sum up:

    USA: 9,800,000
    Canada: 1,500,000
    Australia: 1,200,000
    New Zealand: 190,000+
    Latin America: 1,700,000+
    Japan: 600,000+
    South Africa: 100,000+
    Rest of Asia: 2,000,000+
    Rest of the world: 500,000

    Total (estimated): 30,200,000

    Any opinion?. Our friend MJDangerous told me that he would be updating Queen´s catalog eventually, but he has this album at 27,000,000 worldwide, which may climb a bit if he works on it again...

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  • HUR
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    Originally posted by john2000
    Originally posted by HUR
    France
    Greatest Hits II album n.118
    Greatest Hits album n. 124
    Is this true?. Aren´t they charting in the mid-price chart too?. At least they aren´t listing them here:

    http://www.disqueenfrance.com/classemen ... efault.asp

    Thank you for the update.
    they are on the comprehensive chart at ifop.com
    Thank you, John. This is the first time I see them charting in the comprenhensive chart. Do you know what position would "Greatest hits 2" have achieved in the official chart in 1992 if it hadn´t been excluded from the main list?. Any idea?.

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  • borderwolf
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    United Arab Emirates
    dvd
    http://www.vmeganews.com/vip/vmeganews_ ... sp?catg=MD


    #1 Queen - Rock Montreal

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  • EdWood
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    On Canadian Top 100 Album Chart this week:

    Queen's Greatest Hits: 73 (58) 106 weeks on chart

    On US Top Pop Catalog Chart:

    Queen's Greatest Hits: 25 (19) 748 weeks on combined chart - due to release of albums by AC/DC and Metallica there has been a re-entry of several of their older albums

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