Queen :: Charts & Sales History

[Braca3]

Yes I'm the org braca

Lots of data has been lost on the riaa site. And there are lots of inaccuracies on the riaa site.
gold awards for a single used to be for 1 million sales and Platinum for 2 million. But every single, awarded gold status on the riaa site, is listed as creditted for 500,000 sales and every Platinum award is listed for 1 million sales.

FG was certified see Pic / attachment. It cannot be found anymore on the riaa site, but once certified it cannot be undone.
A post of 2007 u write, so ....fairly recent
things do change overtime.

I never said you had mentioned the eagles. My point is the way u address this everything can be argued against.
Based on their GH UK sales data Riaa 38 million certification can never be correct. I doubt the US number it seems very fishy. But the argument to doubt it cannot be the UK sales data comparison

I post here what I find on sales data and news articles.
As I mentioned before in the absence of accurate certification WW data. I believe CM to be the next best thing. You are free to doubt their numbers. I am not going to revist all my own post or any others. I see no reason to.



have you written to hur why he came up with these numbers and 'lifetime later" stands with the numbers of his fellow chartmasters? As this was ur org query I believe

[Topicel]

Sorry Braca, I don't seem to see an attachment to your post. I did say "database issues aside", by which I meant problems that are notorious with most sites like RIAA and BPI/OCC etc when they are revamped. But even though it was 2007 when you made your posts, this was - as I keep saying - about the end of original album sales in physical format and, in case you didn't know, when Chartmasters (then Fan Of Music) had already made these kind of estimates.

Sure things change, but it is 'recent' enough in the full sweep of the sales of these Queen catalogue albums. We are not talking about Greatest Hits et al...

The point remains that Flash Gordon was not certified in its pomp, was a poorly received film and does not exist on the RIAA database. The rule changes for 500k, 1m and 2m are also irrelevant as they are indeed about singles, not albums.

As for the Eagles, you still seem to misunderstand what I was alluding to. The ratio or percentage of a gold in the UK (whatever its level but for May 1976 around 120k) and a gold in the States (500k in March 1977) and how that is reflected against the Chartmasters 600k total for 'Queen' is what I was explaining. Nothing whatsoever to do with the awards and sales in those two countries for any act. Just the ratio increase.

So you have 120k increasing to 600k (again, never mind the years in between) - a five-fold or 500% increase in what 'Queen' has been certified for. All I'm saying is to see how wrong that must be is to take the same gold level in the US of 500k and give that a five-fold increase. You get 2.5m, as I was trying to explain, obviously not very clearly.

I hope you now see what I'm getting at. It is just another metric to show how clearly wrong 600k for 'Queen' in the UK according to Chartmasters is! Quite aside from the basic breakdown I then gave you of the peak commercial years of the album July 1973-May 1976 (120k shipment) and July 1992 to Dec 2006 (120k approx for what are company sales, not purchases) adding to only 240k...

As for HUR, it has been a long time since we corresponded and he is always reasoned and conservative with his conclusions. The same with JP59. They may or may not make final decisions or have input on the detail Chartmasters puts up, but if you go across the site and look at the comments you'll find plenty who query totals with good reasoning but they rarely are given any attention. I get that it would be hard to answer everyone, but some items, like I'm pointing out, get raised and ignored.

I'm reminded of how the Tories deal with questions about whether or not cheese and wine being present makes something a Christmas party or not and prefer to call them 'gatherings' when found out. It is kinda like that if anyone suggests Chartmasters have got fundamentals wrong...

I was hoping someone could explain on here. Anyhow, happy Christmas Day!

Topicel

[Rockintunesbaby]

Sorry Braca, I don't seem to see an attachment to your post. I did say "database issues aside", by which I meant problems that are notorious with most sites like RIAA and BPI/OCC etc when they are revamped. But even though it was 2007 when you made your posts, this was - as I keep saying - about the end of original album sales in physical format and, in case you didn't know, when Chartmasters (then Fan Of Music) had already made these kind of estimates.

Sure things change, but it is 'recent' enough in the full sweep of the sales of these Queen catalogue albums. We are not talking about Greatest Hits et al...

The point remains that Flash Gordon was not certified in its pomp, was a poorly received film and does not exist on the RIAA database. The rule changes for 500k, 1m and 2m are also irrelevant as they are indeed about singles, not albums.

As for the Eagles, you still seem to misunderstand what I was alluding to. The ratio or percentage of a gold in the UK (whatever its level but for May 1976 around 120k) and a gold in the States (500k in March 1977) and how that is reflected against the Chartmasters 600k total for 'Queen' is what I was explaining. Nothing whatsoever to do with the awards and sales in those two countries for any act. Just the ratio increase.

So you have 120k increasing to 600k (again, never mind the years in between) - a five-fold or 500% increase in what 'Queen' has been certified for. All I'm saying is to see how wrong that must be is to take the same gold level in the US of 500k and give that a five-fold increase. You get 2.5m, as I was trying to explain, obviously not very clearly.

I hope you now see what I'm getting at. It is just another metric to show how clearly wrong 600k for 'Queen' in the UK according to Chartmasters is! Quite aside from the basic breakdown I then gave you of the peak commercial years of the album July 1973-May 1976 (120k shipment) and July 1992 to Dec 2006 (120k approx for what are company sales, not purchases) adding to only 240k...

As for HUR, it has been a long time since we corresponded and he is always reasoned and conservative with his conclusions. The same with JP59. They may or may not make final decisions or have input on the detail Chartmasters puts up, but if you go across the site and look at the comments you'll find plenty who query totals with good reasoning but they rarely are given any attention. I get that it would be hard to answer everyone, but some items, like I'm pointing out, get raised and ignored.

I'm reminded of how the Tories deal with questions about whether or not cheese and wine being present makes something a Christmas party or not and prefer to call them 'gatherings' when found out. It is kinda like that if anyone suggests Chartmasters have got fundamentals wrong...

I was hoping someone could explain on here. Anyhow, happy Christmas Day!

Topicel

There is a system that they use at Chartmasters that explains how it works. Also take into account that all the other artists there are scrutinised in the same way! Cheers.

[Braca3]

Sorry Topicel...but I keep falling asleep reading ur comments
draw all the conclusion u like! Water of a duck's back to me

[slightlymad]

Huge spike for Queen in Denmark on iTunes, not sure why perhaps Bo Rhap shown on TV over Christmas?

1 - NEW Queen - The Platinum Collection
5 - NEW Queen - Greatest Hits
7 - NEW Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody Soundtrack
13 - NEW Queen - Greatest Hits II
22 - NEW Queen - Made In Heaven

[jimmypages59]

To be honest, I've never looked at the Queen article in much scrutiny but I agree, 600,000 for Queen is too high. Also Sheer Heart Attack seems too high at 805,000. Took until 1982 to go Platinum and then 110,000 between 1992 and 2006, I can't see another 400,000 sales coming between 1982-1992 and 2006-now.

[Topicel]

At last the voice of reason. How are you JP59, still keeping up with the Bhoys? Another cup under the belt I see.

There is great merit in what Chartmasters has attempted, and post 1990 when much more reliable chart data was being produced, the margins for error are less and less and are churlish to dispute or argue over. Clearly I've managed to bore/confuse Braca and that is a shame as I was hoping for some discourse on what I had spotted.

Never mind, the facts are clear to me and, it seems you're inclined to agree that 'Queen' at 600k in the UK is very wrong. I wasn't going to go into 'Sheer Heart Attack' and others but those totals are also questionable.

And this is the point, they are inaccurate for UK data that is very much more 'knowable' than the rest of Europe (which I also touched on) when they should be lower. It all then feeds into the final CSPC conclusions and, ultimately, produces more spurious data when all is said and done should the media ever start using it. Is it then any better than the media wrongly quoting whatever they've liked to with album sales all these years? I try and let logic triumph over mathematical dogma any day when we don't have the full picture pre-1990 (and often afterwards, but that's another story too!) and there are just too many inconsistencies and flights of fancy on Chartmasters before then that need ironing out severely to make it acceptable to moi.

It really has become too grandiose - although I can understand why.

Don't get me wrong, the idea to measure acts in a uniform way is great, but more than a little fine tuning and listening to criticism would help no end. I don't see it happening from my own personal experience of explaining and pointing things out. More likely to take the view that it is to be called a 'gathering' than a 'party' and let's forget about it, if you get my drift...

Topicel

[Topicel]

There is a system that they use at Chartmasters that explains how it works. Also take into account that all the other artists there are scrutinised in the same way! Cheers.

Thanks Rockintunesbaby, there are efforts here and there to explain things, but please don't get me started! I could drive a horse and coaches through much of it when it comes to historical data. I don't doubt the digital and streaming data is fine, but then it should be as it lends itself to mathematical interpretation.

Using ratios or percentage market sizes etc., is not good the further back you go. The data that is there - say from RIAA or BPI or elsewhere - is not being interpreted correctly. If that is done wrong then the whole house of cards based on it comes tumbling down under the smallest scrutiny. To then use arbitrary interpretations from there (say like single sales equal 3:10 ratio for instance) only compounds the final outcomes.

Ultimately the US and UK are manageable back to the dawn of the modern rock/pop era thanks to their more complete and fairly reasonable chart histories. But it needs a lot of feel and logic to use them well, and in particular the results must be consistent. Football fans in particular know that there is nothing worse than inconsistent interpretation of the rules by referees. Same with this; you say all artists "are scrutinised in the same way", but that is not borne out by the results.

Try and compare some, say Fleetwood Mac with Queen, and see what you get. It should work out quite well in every case, but it doesn't! Anyhow, just passing time for Xmas, given all the blooming restrictions etc.

Topicel

[Topicel]

To be honest, I've never looked at the Queen article in much scrutiny but I agree, 600,000 for Queen is too high. Also Sheer Heart Attack seems too high at 805,000. Took until 1982 to go Platinum and then 110,000 between 1992 and 2006, I can't see another 400,000 sales coming between 1982-1992 and 2006-now.

To elaborate a little on what JP59 is saying about 'Sheer Heart Attack' being too high on 805k at Chartmasters, we can as he says subtract the 110k pretty much nailed on company to retailer/distributor sales of 110k from 1992-2006 bringing the tally down to 695k from the album's November 1974 release until mid-1992.

So Chartmasters is saying that was what it sold over 18 years. Of course it received a platinum award as he's highlighted during 1982 (7th June to be precise) which was for a minimum shipment of 300k. This means, as JP59 says, approx 400k (395k doing the subtraction from 695k) are deemed to have been sold in the 10 years to 1992. There aren't many catalogue albums that can sell a third more in the fallow years of the 80s than they actually managed in their chart peak period. It does look bad for the method, doesn't it?

However, it should also not escape people's attention that the award is for a shipment, not actually bought sales as the OCC would count these days, and it could be the 300,000th copy wasn't bought until 1983/84 in retail terms. As long as that is understood then we have to equally balance the possible ledger with the observation that the platinum award could have been somewhat belated. I would be prepared to consider it other than the inconvenient fact that the award coincided with the release of 'Hot Space' and an opportunity for EMI to off-load back catalogue items into the distribution chain ready to benefit from casual purchases along with the new album. They get sold or come back within the next six months or so, that's how it works folks!

Now personally I would still err on the side of caution and consider the platinum award had been overlooked and that it was noticed when any additional shipments alongside 'Hot Space' were sent out. Something along the lines of an internal memo saying:

"Hey marketing and publicity department, we're just getting our reps to push Queen back catalogue on the back of the new 'Hot Space' release and noticed that the additional 10k (for instance) we're distributing of 'Sheer Heart Attack' has taken it close to 400k and we missed the chance for platinum some while back. Please apply to the BPI now".

The reasoning for my hesitancy are the BMRB Top 100 placings of No. 91 in 1974 (from a curtailed/restricted run); No. 39 in 1975 and No. 59 in 1976. That little lot would indicate 400k was more likely in the summer of 1982.

If it helps Chartmasters is doubtful as we still have them estimating a UK sale of now 'just' 295k from 82-92. Shall we say (on good authority) it was ticking over at a generous 15k a year at retail, then we could bring the 'missing' total down to 145k. Add in a burst of 25k from Freddie's passing and Chartmasters seem to be 120k too high - a 15% discrepancy. I would add little for post-2006 as the data suggests the price reductions in 2005 brought more than enough product into the marketplace. If anything, returns would be possible.

Of course the discrepancy will be answered by the age-old cry of 'club sales'...and if it is, then we'll have a look at consistency more closely... ;)

Sorry to step on your toes JP59, I just felt like explaining what you were driving at.

Topicel

[Rockintunesbaby]

To elaborate a little on what JP59 is saying about 'Sheer Heart Attack' being too high on 805k at Chartmasters, we can as he says subtract the 110k pretty much nailed on company to retailer/distributor sales of 110k from 1992-2006 bringing the tally down to 695k from the album's November 1974 release until mid-1992.

So Chartmasters is saying that was what it sold over 18 years. Of course it received a platinum award as he's highlighted during 1982 (7th June to be precise) which was for a minimum shipment of 300k. This means, as JP59 says, approx 400k (395k doing the subtraction from 695k) are deemed to have been sold in the 10 years to 1992. There aren't many catalogue albums that can sell a third more in the fallow years of the 80s than they actually managed in their chart peak period. It does look bad for the method, doesn't it?

However, it should also not escape people's attention that the award is for a shipment, not actually bought sales as the OCC would count these days, and it could be the 300,000th copy wasn't bought until 1983/84 in retail terms. As long as that is understood then we have to equally balance the possible ledger with the observation that the platinum award could have been somewhat belated. I would be prepared to consider it other than the inconvenient fact that the award coincided with the release of 'Hot Space' and an opportunity for EMI to off-load back catalogue items into the distribution chain ready to benefit from casual purchases along with the new album. They get sold or come back within the next six months or so, that's how it works folks!

Now personally I would still err on the side of caution and consider the platinum award had been overlooked and that it was noticed when any additional shipments alongside 'Hot Space' were sent out. Something along the lines of an internal memo saying:

"Hey marketing and publicity department, we're just getting our reps to push Queen back catalogue on the back of the new 'Hot Space' release and noticed that the additional 10k (for instance) we're distributing of 'Sheer Heart Attack' has taken it close to 400k and we missed the chance for platinum some while back. Please apply to the BPI now".

The reasoning for my hesitancy are the BMRB Top 100 placings of No. 91 in 1974 (from a curtailed/restricted run); No. 39 in 1975 and No. 59 in 1976. That little lot would indicate 400k was more likely in the summer of 1982.

If it helps Chartmasters is doubtful as we still have them estimating a UK sale of now 'just' 295k from 82-92. Shall we say (on good authority) it was ticking over at a generous 15k a year at retail, then we could bring the 'missing' total down to 145k. Add in a burst of 25k from Freddie's passing and Chartmasters seem to be 120k too high - a 15% discrepancy. I would add little for post-2006 as the data suggests the price reductions in 2005 brought more than enough product into the marketplace. If anything, returns would be possible.

Of course the discrepancy will be answered by the age-old cry of 'club sales'...and if it is, then we'll have a look at consistency more closely... ;)

Sorry to step on your toes JP59, I just felt like explaining what you were driving at.

Topicel

I think Queen are doing well. They are smashing it in the streaming era but were always a perennial seller well before the movie. Please read the link. Thanks

https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.c...llion-dollars/

[Topicel]

Oh well, never mind. My musings are clearly flying over the top of most people's head. Basically Chartmasters can write what they like about historical album sales and that's that...

But I'll muse on.

I mentioned inconsistencies, and by that I was referring to the way unexplained estimate differences crop up all over the place on Chartmasters when none, or not much, should exist. So for the debut 'Queen' album I'll go back and use a Deep Purple LP to explain what I mean as I know JP59 will have more than a passing interest and understanding of their canon. Maybe he worked on their Chartmasters figures?

I've mentioned how 'Queen' came out in July 1973 but didn't chart until March 1974 and didn't peak at No. 24 until early 1976 when 'Bho Rhap' was triggering interest in everything by the band, racking up 18 wks all told. It made gold in May 1976 on what was then about 120k shipments, possibly a little less, and as we've seen Chartmasters have settled on an all-time sale of the album of 600k in Britain.

Now in March 1974 'Burn' by Deep Purple made the UK Top 50 albums and peaked at No. 3 with 21 wks of residency, going gold on 1st July 1974, similarly in the 120k region. Now it probably added reasonably to that amount in the rest of the 70s, but my guess is as good as anyone's how much, maybe getting to 175k?

We have the shop-only data from JP59 (presumably because the band didn't go to clubs?), circa 38k from 1992-2006. So being generous we could say 50k from 1990, and a running tally of 225k, leaving us to wonder at the 80s. Chartmasters would have us believe the total is 315k, so that implies we are looking at 90k for the 80s. I'd find it hard to credit based on the yearly average of the 90s and post chart run periods, but it could be ok as it was discounted back then.

The problem I have is apart from an advantage of around 80k shop bought sales between these Queen and Purple albums from 1992-2006, all the early advantages are with 'Burn'. So they should even themselves out in time. Is 'Burn' as keenly loved as 'Queen' by casual rock fans through the years? Because they are really the only ones likely to be buying them. I have no idea but this is a cold hard example of the inconsistent Chartmasters estimates to which I refer. One ends up with nearly double the other with no rhyme nor reason! Go figure, as our Yank cousins would say.

A fair system that takes into all other artists and accounts for them in the same way? Mmmm, maybe...

Topicel

[Rockintunesbaby]

Dude go and talk to chartmasters about it.

[Topicel]

They don't want to know. Or haven't you seen the comments section when queries are raised ;)

Chart analysis is what we are here for, and on here Queen specific. Just read lists of numbers if that is what you prefer with no engagement of brain, but I suspect you are actually more interested in the subject than that really.

Anyway, Jimmypages59 seemed to find it easy enough to follow my logic and agreed in principle with what I'm pointing out. Even added another album that looked suspect. As Chartmasters keeps getting the big write up and links it just seems apt to ask some thoughtful questions to those on here who might be involved. Hence HUR.

Topicel

[Topicel]

And now for some Eastern magic with regards to 'Queen' selling 195,000 in Japan according to Chartmasters.

I understand it registered 24k in 1974 based on their LP chart sales, having made No. 52. Aside from making an allowance for cassette version sales, I suppose there is some unknown method that calculated the difference of 171,000 were sold in the intervening years? It wasn't just a random guess or total plucked out of thin air as appears to have been the case with the UK estimate, was it?

Then we can get into really unknown territory - certainly for me anyhow - with the wider Asia market apparently adding 85,000 more. Chartmasters seem to have a system that works out this sale. I mean, it must be 85,000 when there were a billion and more people in the region over 40-plus years, so let's put that figure into the adding machine to spew out a CSPC sum later on. You know it makes sense!

Yes, I'm being facetious, and perhaps not with good reason. But these old albums are seemingly able to add totals in places that might not even have seen a legitimate release, or if they did were certainly not being bought by the impoverished populations of the 70s in significant numbers, and it all just keeps adding up.

It isn't an isolated instance, there is some method to the madness I'm missing. Back over to the Deep Purple Chartmasters results for 'Burn' again and we find it racked up 482,500 (let's not overlook the 500 !) in Japan and seemingly 152,500 in the rest of Asia. Yet Oricon data gives it only 52,000 in the LP chart results. Yes, it is only the Top 100, and again no cassette (or later CD) numbers are included, but c'mon, that is some mark-up no matter how big they were for a while in the Land of the Rising Sun!

Answers on a postcard, etc.

Topicel

[Braca3]

https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...9#post10792797

YTD VINYL SALES
13 QUEEN GH 139,000 units

Site does not allow me to just post the file somehow !

[Braca3]

Will Hollywood be issuing a diamond award for 1st GH before years end??

Don’t hold your breath!

I guess you are clairvoyant

》》Rockintunesbaby - Check ur inbox pls

[slightlymad]

Article from Musicweek.com - 04-01-2022

Adele and Ed Sheeran top end-of-year charts as streaming boosts classic catalogue

Perhaps the big story in the end-of-year albums chart is the further streaming boost for catalogue. According to Music Week research, 59% of the Top 100 for 2021 are catalogue titles (like MRC Data’s reporting in the US, catalogue is defined as any release older than 18 months, or a greatest hits collection).

In 2020, catalogue accounted for 56% of entries, based on Music Week research.

Queen had the biggest-selling catalogue title of 2021 with Greatest Hits (EMI) at No.5. Last year, it moved a further 229,521 copies (including 167,946 from streams and 56,861 physical units). The band’s classic collection is certified as 23 times platinum (over 6.9 million sales).

OFFICIAL ARTIST ALBUMS CHART 2021 – Official Charts Company

1 Adele – 30

2 Ed Sheeran – =

3 ABBA – Voyage

4 Olivia Rodrigo – Sour

5 Queen – Greatest Hits

6 Dua Lipa – Future Nostalgia

7 Ed Sheeran – Divide

8 Elton John – Diamonds

9 Fleetwood Mac – 50 Years: Don’t Stop

10 Dave – We’re All Alone In This Together

[Braca3]

YTD OVERALL ACTIVITY
Chart Date: 2021 FINAL
MARKETSHARE: UMG 59% SME 30% WMG 10% OTHERS 1%

RANK	ARTIST | TITLE | LABEL		YTD ACTIVITY	ALBUMS	SONGS	AOD STREAMS	VOD STREAMS
1 MORGAN WALLEN | DANGEROUS: THE DOUBLE ALBUM BIG LOUD/REPUBLIC			3,230,000	289,000	582,000	3,651,743,000	291,247,000
2 OLIVIA RODRIGO | SOUR GEFFEN			2,859,000	557,000	613,000	2,968,621,000	229,620,000
3 DRAKE | CERTIFIED LOVER BOY OVO/REPUBLIC			1,973,000	68,000	193,000	2,430,188,000	120,105,000
4 ADELE | 30 COLUMBIA			1,939,000	1,464,000	273,000	557,716,000	41,619,000
5 POP SMOKE | SHOOT FOR THE STARS AIM FOR THE MOON VICTOR VICTOR/REPUBLIC			1,535,000	47,000	189,000	1,976,096,000	209,363,000
6 DOJA CAT | PLANET HER KEMOSABE/RCA			1,512,000	34,000	327,000	1,851,993,000	221,053,000
7 THE KID LAROI | F*CK LOVE COLUMBIA			1,507,000	14,000	399,000	1,968,573,000	178,252,000
8 JUSTIN BIEBER | JUSTICE RBMG/DEF JAM			1,475,000	123,000	551,000	1,657,561,000	101,935,000
9 DUA LIPA | FUTURE NOSTALGIA WARNER			1,405,000	111,000	727,000	1,584,404,000	119,677,000
10 THE WEEKND | AFTER HOURS XO/REPUBLIC			1,344,000	106,000	525,000	1,505,468,000	185,623,000
11 LUKE COMBS | WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE			1,330,000	99,000	430,000	1,513,463,000	121,852,000
12 BILLIE EILISH | HAPPIER THAN EVER DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE			1,251,000	431,000	176,000	1,046,884,000	85,182,000
13 LIL BABY | MY TURN QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN/CAPITOL			1,230,000	23,000	124,000	1,529,870,000	280,023,000
14 TAYLOR SWIFT | EVERMORE REPUBLIC			1,217,000	530,000	138,000	868,650,000	25,056,000
15 ROD WAVE | SOULFLY ALAMO/SME			1,206,000	13,000	82,000	1,581,305,000	241,766,000
16 POLO G | HALL OF FAME COLUMBIA			1,178,000	27,000	122,000	1,568,695,000	183,685,000
17 MONEYBAGG YO | A GANGSTA'S PAIN CMG/N-LESS/INTERSCOPE			1,176,000	18,000	203,000	1,438,380,000	190,150,000
18 JUICE WRLD | LEGENDS NEVER DIE GRADE A/INTERSCOPE			1,140,000	72,000	78,000	1,536,847,000	150,792,000
19 TAYLOR SWIFT | RED (TAYLOR'S VERSION) REPUBLIC			1,137,000	622,000	123,000	631,147,000	38,296,000
20 POST MALONE | HOLLYWOOD'S BLEEDING REPUBLIC			1,102,000	42,000	183,000	1,353,557,000	119,727,000
21 ARIANA GRANDE | POSITIONS REPUBLIC			1,088,000	182,000	167,000	1,164,670,000	106,090,000
22 THE WEEKND | THE HIGHLIGHTS XO/REPUBLIC			1,063,000	94,000	230,000	1,210,858,000	166,681,000
23 LIL NAS X | MONTERO COLUMBIA			1,020,000	28,000	319,000	1,237,048,000	220,736,000
24 TAYLOR SWIFT | FEARLESS (TAYLOR'S VERSION) REPUBLIC			1,016,000	522,000	93,000	624,034,000	25,498,000
25 J. COLE | THE OFF-SEASON DREAMVILLE/ROC NATION/INTERSCOPE			1,015,000	111,000	65,000	1,160,153,000	60,019,000
26 LIL DURK | THE VOICE ALAMO/SME			1,011,000	9,000	130,000	1,270,013,000	198,007,000
27 HARRY STYLES | FINE LINE COLUMBIA			1,001,000	318,000	195,000	882,383,000	58,664,000
28 JUICE WRLD | GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE GRADE A/INTERSCOPE			979,000	46,000	57,000	1,358,509,000	155,974,000
29 KANYE WEST | DONDA G.O.O.D./DEF JAM			976,000	53,000	58,000	1,187,539,000	35,440,000
30 QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 HOLLYWOOD			973,000	229,000	326,000	922,544,000	72,045,000
31 TAYLOR SWIFT | FOLKLORE REPUBLIC			944,000	305,000	79,000	816,720,000	22,638,000
32 POOH SHIESTY | SHIESTY SEASON ATLANTIC			926,000	8,000	103,000	1,172,764,000	249,124,000
33 LIL BABY & LIL DURK | THE VOICE OF THE HEROES ALAMO/SME/WOLFPACK/QUALITY CONTROL/MOTOWN			920,000	17,000	133,000	1,159,391,000	99,184,000
34 FLEETWOOD MAC | RUMOURS WARNER			912,000	237,000	268,000	828,551,000	43,887,000
35 LUKE COMBS | THIS ONE'S FOR YOU RIVER HOUSE/COLUMBIA NASHVILLE			864,000	70,000	163,000	992,648,000	106,813,000
36 MACHINE GUN KELLY | TICKETS TO MY DOWNFALL BAD BOY/INTERSCOPE			858,000	86,000	167,000	961,597,000	108,477,000
37 BAD BUNNY | EL ULTIMO TOUR DEL MUNDO RIMAS			855,000	7,000	74,000	1,064,559,000	164,679,000
38 HAMILTON | ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST UPTOWN/ATLANTIC			841,000	72,000	55,000	992,265,000	43,099,000
39 BILLIE EILISH | WHEN WE ALL FALL ASLEEP, WHERE DO WE GO? DARKROOM/INTERSCOPE			835,000	226,000	112,000	805,171,000	56,093,000
40 POLO G | THE GOAT COLUMBIA			828,000	11,000	67,000	1,172,913,000	129,487,000
41 MEGAN THEE STALLION | GOOD NEWS ATLANTIC			824,000	30,000	191,000	984,150,000	143,882,000
42 MORGAN WALLEN | IF I KNOW ME BIG LOUD			788,000	56,000	152,000	925,166,000	80,235,000
43 GIVEON | WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE... TAKE TIME NOT SO FAST/EPIC			775,000	33,000	76,000	949,830,000	138,540,000
44 BAD BUNNY | YHLQMDLG RIMAS			757,000	5,000	35,000	972,700,000	87,498,000
45 ED SHEERAN | = ATLANTIC			749,000	171,000	564,000	665,300,000	48,389,000
46 ELTON JOHN | DIAMONDS ISLAND			743,000	125,000	270,000	758,718,000	61,804,000
47 DOJA CAT | HOT PINK KEMOSABE/RCA			742,000	20,000	132,000	911,380,000	164,703,000
48 TRAVIS SCOTT | ASTROWORLD CACTUS JACK/GRAND HUSTLE/EPIC			718,000	88,000	38,000	815,750,000	64,711,000
49 EMINEM | CURTAIN CALL SHADY/AFTERMATH/INTERSCOPE			717,000	56,000	226,000	823,472,000	128,318,000
50 CHRIS STAPLETON | STARTING OVER MERCURY NASHVILLE			716,000	180,000	322,000	633,555,000	39,594,000

https://hitsdailydouble.com/ytd_project_activity

[thebigham]

^That would mean their GH album is eligible for Diamond. Or 6xP depending on which album they certify.

[Braca3]

》》thebigham do you know if both versions are still for sale in the US?

[Braca3]

Chart Date: 01/07/2022 (WEEK ENDING: 01/06/2022)

LW

TW

ARTIST | TITLE | LABEL

TOTAL

CHANGE

ALBUMS

TEA

SEA

-- 34 QUEEN | GREATEST HITS 1 HOLLYWOOD

14,320

--

2,308

416

11,596

[thebigham]

MRC Data Year End Charts for 2021

Pure album sales estimate by oldbloke:

https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...-states/page41

Top 200 Album Sales Rank - Estimated 2021 Sales - TITLE - Artist ( Estimated Total Sales )

15. 227,000 GREATEST HITS Queen (8,350,000) 9xP (and 5xP?)

[slightlymad]

Queen The Greatest - Made In Heaven (Episode 41)

On its release in November 1995, Made In Heaven raced to the top of the charts and achieved multiple Platinum status around the world - going on to sell in excess of 20 million copies. Five tracks were subsequently released as singles, all of which were top 20 hits in the UK.

This is a quote from the Official Queen website yesterday, this is a huge sales total for MIH that doubles the estimated 9,660,000 by Chartmasters. Is this another urban myth that Queen's official office are perpetuating?

[Braca3]

The 20 million number keeps popping up. It was in an Of. press release all these years ago. As there have always been 2 record companies involved I wonder who came up with it? As sales in the US and Canada were not spectacular I guess Hollywood can be eliminated. A marketing guy at EMI or one of Queen's executives?

[Lawyeris]

https://www.billboard.com/charts/yea...rd-200-albums/

Queen's GH is No 23 in Billboard's year end chart of 2021