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  • This week on UK album charts -

    166. (153) GREATEST HITS [REMASTERED] (Queen)

    Madonna's Celebration at no. 132 sold 1,408 copies so maybe Queen sold 1,200? Pathetic sales and promotion from Island Records - their new record company....

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    • Here is a breakdown of the DVD "Queen Rock Montreal" in Brazil, based on the codes that have been sent so far:

      Queen Rock Montreal
      AA5050
      AB8000
      AC?
      AD?
      AE?
      AF?
      AG?
      AH?
      AI?
      AJ?
      AK?
      AL?
      AM?
      AN3000
      AO1000
      AP?
      AQ?
      AR?
      AS?
      AT?
      AU?
      AV15000
      AW1500
      AX?
      AZ1000
      BA?
      BB?
      BC?
      BD10500

      Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid
      AA5250
      AB?
      AC?
      AD?
      AE?
      AF?
      AG?
      AH?
      AI?
      AJ?
      AK?
      AL?
      AM?
      AN5000

      For "Queen Rock Montreal"
      Total codes: 30
      Known codes: 8, which add up 45,050 copies.
      Missing codes: 22

      Assuming 1,000 copies per each missing code, we have a minimum of 67,050 copies.

      For "Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid"
      Total codes: 14
      Known codes: 2, which add up 10,250 copies
      Missing codes: 12 codes

      Assuming 1,000 copies per missing code, we have a minimum of 22,250 copies.

      At least 89,300 copies. I would like to have some further codes so as to come up with a better result. Because some of the codes are likely to be a bit higher than 1,000, I would say that Queen's "Rock Montreal" has sold approximately 100,000 copies in Brazil. It is very good for a DVD in that market.

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      • Argentina
        RANKING SEMANAL POP DEL 16/01/2011 AL 22/01/2011

        5 GREATEST HITS I (REMASTERED) - QUEEN
        6 GREATEST HITS II (REMASTERED) - QUEEN
        Prisoner Of Rock'n'Roll

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        • Japan

          39 Queen Greatest Hits (2,745)

          I would like to thank Loris39 and Borderwolf for these updates. It is nice to see the albums charting in two of the countries where they were most successful: Italy and Argentina.

          In Italy, it charted a total of 37 weeks between 2001, 2002, 2006, 2007 and 2008; and now it adds up another week.

          The Argentinian chart is based on shipments but it is still interesting to see. This is how "Greatest Hits II" debuted in Argentina in 1991:

          Early November 1991,
          Argentina Top 10

          1 JOYRIDE, Roxette
          2 PELUSION OF MILK, Luis Alberto Spinetta
          3 MIRADA PROFUNDA, Roxette
          4 SWALLOW THIS LIVE, Poison
          5 GREATES HITS II, Queen
          6 GUARANTEED, Level 42
          7 GRANDES EXITOS, Queen
          8 SIMPLY THE BEST, Tina Turner
          9 NIGHT CALLS, Joe Cocker
          10 USE YOUR ILLUSION II, Guns N' Roses

          It eventually reached #1. I would love to have updated sales figures for Italy and Argentina. :(

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          • Subjective me. What is the best Queen album?

            Not your favourite, that's easy.

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            • New Zealand
              January 30 2011
              DVD certifications:

              The Bee Gees - One Night Only - plat x6
              Neil Diamond - Live 1976 - plat x1
              Queen - Rock Montreal And Live Aid - plat x1
              Rolling Stones - Ladies And Gentlemen - gold x1
              Prisoner Of Rock'n'Roll

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              • Queen has sold 5,723,067 copies in France, and they are #38 artist all-time in that country. This is the source:

                http://www.infodisc.fr/CD_Vente_Artiste.php


                In this link:

                http://www.infodisc.fr/CD_Certif.php

                you can also verify all the certifications regarding Queen albums in France.

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                • Hi, Mj said 7200000 !!!
                  Every body said that Queen don't works well here in France, that wrong, Queen have BAD press but Queen have a good "niveau de vente"
                  One of the best for Foreign band, and better than some "French popular band"
                  Sorry for my poor english!!!

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                  • Originally posted by jimmypages59
                    Subjective me. What is the best Queen album?

                    Not your favourite, that's easy.
                    Jimmy, sorry for not replying earlier. "A Night At The Opera" is, to me, the best album they ever recorded. Their best albums are, in my opinion, the following ones (in order):

                    A Night At The Opera
                    Queen II
                    A Day At The Races
                    Innuendo
                    Sheer Heart Attack
                    Jazz
                    Queen

                    The rest would depend. Not sure if the other Queen fans in this forum agree with me.

                    Originally posted by GoutierMarcel
                    Hi, Mj said 7200000 !!!
                    Every body said that Queen don't works well here in France, that wrong, Queen have BAD press but Queen have a good "niveau de vente"
                    One of the best for Foreign band, and better than some "French popular band"
                    Sorry for my poor english!!!
                    Welcome to the forum. I have to agree with you. They sold well in France and Infodisc (in my opinion) doesn't fairly represent their sales.

                    According to that site, "Greatest Hits" sold merely 300,000 copies and "Greatest Hits II" around 1,100,000 copies or so.

                    I have found higher totals for those albums in some articles, and I think they make sense based on a number of factors:

                    "Queen:
                    En France, le Greatest Hits Vol 1 est à 500 000 exemplaires, le Vol II 1,4 millions d'exemplaires, sans parler du Live datant de 86." (Identité du rock et presse spécialisée, 2004)

                    Clearly, those two albums would appear to have sold more.

                    I believe some other records are underestimated. Not to mention that some certifications they were given, aren't listed in the site.

                    A Night At The Opera: Gold
                    News Of The World: Double Gold
                    The Works: Gold
                    A Kind Of Magic: Double Gold

                    Still, thanks to Loris for the links.

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                    • I agree with the above points about the infodisc site and it's figures. Most of the certifications seem very outdated and the actual sales figures seem to be on the low side to.

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                      • I find it quite terrible, that record labels all over the world don't seem to be able to provide accurate sales figures for their artists, its clear to me now why they haven't acclimatised to the new digital era in music sales. The industry is run by muppets!
                        My favourite Lps by Queen are...
                        Jazz
                        News of the World
                        The game
                        The works
                        Innuendo
                        Sheer heart attack

                        then after that Im not sure, I seem to enjoy Hot Space these days more than ANATO!!!

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                        • Incidentally, since Im on the subject, I would like to know why 'A night at the opera' is seen as such a great album? Id rate it close to the bottom of all their albums.

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                          • Originally posted by nucleardolphin
                            I find it quite terrible, that record labels all over the world don't seem to be able to provide accurate sales figures for their artists, its clear to me now why they haven't acclimatised to the new digital era in music sales.
                            The record copies you would think have the numbers otherwise how would they determine royalties

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                            • Yes, I suppose asking what is their best album (not your favorite) is quite a tricky question.

                              I also disagree with ANATO, I suppose this was the breakthrough album, which I felt significantly benefitted from Bohemian Rhapsody inclusion. I think it suffers (or is that succeeds) in the same way as Led Zeppelin IV, as being the one that contains Stairway To Heaven. Although I do actually think Led Zep IV is their best pound for pound, song for song album, not my favourite, but their best...my favourite is Houses of The Holy.

                              I completely agree Nuclear, I prefer Hot Space to ANATO, I hardly if ever listen to ANATO (never really have), I think the Hot Space tracks stand up very well today and that the band really suits the style and tempo of the music. I fully understand why it get's knocked so much, but I think that's always been down to narrow minded fans and it's (differing) style, not it's actual musicality or standard of track.

                              My favourite are
                              News of The World
                              Hot Space
                              Sheer Heart Attack
                              The Works


                              With regards to the royalties, yes I imagine that they do have those numbers tucked away somewhere. Other organisations, such as the one I used to work for, also carry info on shipments, actually supplied to them from the Record Company.

                              I do think you are looking (and getting annoyed) at the scenario, from the point of view of a fan. I'm not saying they are not muppets, but you can't call them muppets over this.

                              I am sure Record Companies are very aware of how many copies an album has shipped, but they are under no right, to present this information to you or even to the RIAA or the BPI. It is up to them, if they care or not, to apply for awards and the only reason I can see for actually applying for awards, is for prestige, it serves no other purpose to the Record Company.

                              From another perspective, I have seen various high and low scale court cases, over under payment of royalties from a Record Company to an act, acts such as Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Beatles (to name a few). So, this could also be seen as another cynical reason behind a lack of applications for awards or updates of awards.

                              Just as a side note, having worked in a company that, essentially had EMI Records as customers and EMI Publishing as clients and having went out with a girl, who worked at EMI in Hammersmith, for many years, I can only say that EMI has been going to the wall since, the early-mid 00's.

                              I have witnessed 1st hand, EMI's Quarterly release schedule dwindle to miniscule proportions, for such a once major player and seen it drop and sell of a huge number artists and labels. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/ap ... s.newmedia

                              It has encountered numerous mass redundancies sweeps throughout the 00's, that must total well over 5,000 staff. My ex said no-one was safe and there was always a constant "air of redundancy" over the place, she eventually jumped ship, because she just could not stand the constant uncertainty and seeing more and more people leave, each and every month.

                              On top of all this, we had the company sold to Terra Firma, who run it into the ground even further, before relinquishing power over to Citibank, through non payment of loans.

                              So, the kind of point to my story is, I imagine that with all that has gone on and is going on at EMI, I doubt very much that applying updated BPI certifications to albums, has been top of the List of Priorities lol!

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                              • Originally posted by jimmypages59
                                Yes, I suppose asking what is their best album (not your favorite) is quite a tricky question.

                                I also disagree with ANATO, I suppose this was the breakthrough album, which I felt significantly benefitted from Bohemian Rhapsody inclusion. I think it suffers (or is that succeeds) in the same way as Led Zeppelin IV, as being the one that contains Stairway To Heaven. Although I do actually think Led Zep IV is their best pound for pound, song for song album, not my favourite, but their best...my favourite is Houses of The Holy.

                                I completely agree Nuclear, I prefer Hot Space to ANATO, I hardly if ever listen to ANATO (never really have), I think the Hot Space tracks stand up very well today and that the band really suits the style and tempo of the music. I fully understand why it get's knocked so much, but I think that's always been down to narrow minded fans and it's (differing) style, not it's actual musicality or standard of track.

                                My favourite are
                                News of The World
                                Hot Space
                                Sheer Heart Attack
                                The Works


                                With regards to the royalties, yes I imagine that they do have those numbers tucked away somewhere. Other organisations, such as the one I used to work for, also carry info on shipments, actually supplied to them from the Record Company.

                                I do think you are looking (and getting annoyed) at the scenario, from the point of view of a fan. I'm not saying they are not muppets, but you can't call them muppets over this.

                                I am sure Record Companies are very aware of how many copies an album has shipped, but they are under no right, to present this information to you or even to the RIAA or the BPI. It is up to them, if they care or not, to apply for awards and the only reason I can see for actually applying for awards, is for prestige, it serves no other purpose to the Record Company.

                                From another perspective, I have seen various high and low scale court cases, over under payment of royalties from a Record Company to an act, acts such as Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd and Beatles (to name a few). So, this could also be seen as another cynical reason behind a lack of applications for awards or updates of awards.

                                Just as a side note, having worked in a company that, essentially had EMI Records as customers and EMI Publishing as clients and having went out with a girl, who worked at EMI in Hammersmith, for many years, I can only say that EMI has been going to the wall since, the early-mid 00's.

                                I have witnessed 1st hand, EMI's Quarterly release schedule dwindle to miniscule proportions, for such a once major player and seen it drop and sell of a huge number artists and labels. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/ap ... s.newmedia

                                It has encountered numerous mass redundancies sweeps throughout the 00's, that must total well over 5,000 staff. My ex said no-one was safe and there was always a constant "air of redundancy" over the place, she eventually jumped ship, because she just could not stand the constant uncertainty and seeing more and more people leave, each and every month.

                                On top of all this, we had the company sold to Terra Firma, who run it into the ground even further, before relinquishing power over to Citibank, through non payment of loans.

                                So, the kind of point to my story is, I imagine that with all that has gone on and is going on at EMI, I doubt very much that applying updated BPI certifications to albums, has been top of the List of Priorities lol!
                                EMI and Pink Floyd just settled their dispute recently as a new deal was signmed.

                                And your right other than prestige or perhaps to ready a record company for the auction block,there is no incentive for those companies to request certifications

                                I am all for the "creative-destructive" makret economy but what is happening in the music business is purely theft of intellectual property.
                                A
                                whole generation of listener have been raised to beieve that illegal downlowading is not theft but a righ

                                I wonder if the movie or publishing businessed will eventually succumb to similar fates

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                                • STORMTROOPERS IN STILETTOS 7” & DOWNLOAD SINGLE

                                  RELEASED FOR NEW EXHIBITION AND NATIONAL RECORD STORE DAY

                                  Queen release their two track single ‘Stormtroopers in Stilettos’ as a download on Sunday 27th February 2010 in the week the exhibition opens, through Island Records. There will be a limited edition 7” release in April.

                                  Featuring two previously unreleased versions of tracks recorded in the early 70’s, ‘Keep Yourself Alive (Long Lost Retake)’ (from ‘Queen’) and ‘Stone Cold Crazy (2011 Remaster)’ (from ‘Sheer Heart Attack’), the single is released to coincide with the exhibition ‘Stormtroopers in Stilettos’ which runs at Old Truman Brewery on Brick Lane in London for two weeks from Friday 25th February 2010. The single will be available as part of National Record Store Day taking place on 16th April and is limited to just 2000 numbered copies on heavyweight vinyl (more news soon).

                                  Reminding us that Queen could rock hard with the best of them, the two tracks on the single are lightning strikes of adrenalized rhythm, furious guitars and fearsome high wire vocals. Capable of breathtaking rock’n’roll, early Queen has inspired some of the best heavy rock of subsequent decades.

                                  ‘Keep Yourself Alive’ was the first single Queen ever released back in 1973 and is now poignantly released on their 40th Anniversary. This is the only Queen single that ever failed to chart in the UK mainly because Radio One rejected it claiming it took long to get going! This new version is a long-lost retake of the track recorded in 1975 for a USA single that never saw the light of day. It remained in the Queen vaults until much later on. The original version is taken from Queen’s debut album, Dave Grohl’s favourite album of all time.

                                  Q recently described ‘Stone Cold Crazy’ as “thrash metal before the term was invented”, and the track has been covered by Josh Homme and Metallica amongst others. This was the one of the first tracks that Queen ever played live and the version on the single is a brand new 2011 remaster.
                                  If all 2000 7" vinyls sell in the first week how high could this single chart?

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                                  • I'm pretty sure it is 2000 copies worldwide, not just the UK, so I doubt there will be enough copies actually in the UK, for it to chart.

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                                    • Absolute Greatest was the 100th most selling album in Russia in 2010.


                                      Various charts:

                                      Greece: Greatest Hits II & Greatest Hits #34
                                      Poland: Greatest Hits #25 Greatest Hits II #27
                                      Czech Republic: Greatest Hits I, II #43

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                                      • Thank you.

                                        Portugal

                                        12/03/1988
                                        Nº 01 – YANN ANDERSON - "Song For Nadim"
                                        Nº 02 – XUTOS&PONTAPÉS – "Minha Casinha"
                                        Nº 03 – ROUPA NOVA – "Dona"
                                        Nº 04 – ELBA RAMALHO – "De Volta P'ro Aconchego"
                                        Nº 05 – BELINDA CARLISLE – "Heaven Is A Place On Earth"
                                        Nº 06 – T'PAU – "China In Your Hand"
                                        Nº 07 – BILLY IDOL - "Mony, Mony" (R)
                                        Nº 08 – ROUPA NOVA – "Volta Pra Mim"
                                        Nº 09 – PET SHOP BOYS – "Always On My Mind"
                                        Nº 10 – FREDDIE MERCURY&MONTSERRAT CABALLÉ – "Barcelona" (R)
                                        I have now found this:

                                        26/03/1988
                                        Nº 01 - YANN ANDERSON - "Song For Nadim"
                                        Nº 02 – BELINDA CARLISLE – "Heaven Is A Place On Earth"
                                        Nº 03 – ROUPA NOVA – "Dona"
                                        Nº 04 – T'PAU – "China In Your Hand"
                                        Nº 05 – ELBA RAMALHO – "De Volta P'ro Aconchego"
                                        Nº 06 – FREDDIE MERCURY&MONTSERRAT CABALLÉ – "Barcelona"
                                        Nº 07 – TIFFANY - "I Think We're Alone Now" (N)
                                        Nº 08 – TERENCE TRENT D'ARBY – "Sign Your Name" (N)
                                        Nº 09 – XUTOS & PONTAPES - "A Minha Casinha"
                                        Nº 10 – LOS LOBOS - "Donna"

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                                        • Hur

                                          What are your estimate for Queen's albums in South America(including Mexico)?

                                          They got to be the biggest internation act(outside of the Beatles) in this market?
                                          I
                                          take an uninformed stab at it say about 10 million.

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                                          • In Perú, Absolute Greatest is still in the top-10 (#8). While in Finland it has gone down from #15 to #21. In Norway, Greatest Hits has debuted #21.

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                                            • Originally posted by Classicrock
                                              Hur

                                              What are your estimate for Queen's albums in South America(including Mexico)?

                                              They got to be the biggest internation act(outside of the Beatles) in this market?
                                              I
                                              take an uninformed stab at it say about 10 million.
                                              I will combine some of the things I posted in the past. Sorry if you were looking for a short response but you are giving me the chance of putting together certain things I have already posted and a few more. In the end, you do get what you are asking me to.

                                              As far as albums sales are concerned, they are definitely a contender for the second best selling band, along with Pink Floyd.

                                              Argentina is proportionately their lead market.

                                              Their certifications (not all of them show up in the Capif site):

                                              A Night At The Opera: 120,000
                                              Greatest Hits: 480,000
                                              Live Magic: 30,000
                                              Innuendo: 60,000
                                              Greatest Hits II: 500,000
                                              Live At Wembley '86: 30,000
                                              Made In Heaven: 120,000
                                              Greatest Hits III: 60,000

                                              Total: 1,400,000 copies

                                              In 1992, "Greatest Hits II" sold 315,902 copies and was the second best selling album of the year (best selling English record); and "Greatest Hits" sold 183,309 copies and finished as the fourth best selling albums of the year (second best selling English album). They sold a combined 499,711 copies with these two albums and it was stated (on the article I gathered this from) that Queen were the best selling act, overall, of 1992.

                                              "Greatest Hits II" was certified diamond in October 1999, with sales of 506,916 copies by then. By now, it has definitely sold 600,000 copies (possibly more, given that it makes chart appearances nearly every year from 2000 to now). It is one of the very best selling foreign albums ever in Argentina.

                                              "Greatest Hits" is a tricky one, because it was originally released in 1981 and it is listed with two separate certifications in the Capif database. One of them was a quintuple platinum presented to the album in early 2001 (300,000 copies); and the other one was a triple platinum in November 2006 (for sales of 180,000 copies). The first one appears as having been released in 1987 and the second one refers to the Parlophone edition released in August 1994.

                                              If you combine them, you get a minimum of 480,000 copies between 1987 and November 2006, which would obviously suggest sales upwards 600,000 units as with "Greatest Hits II". But I believe there may be a mistake with the date of release of the first edition (which is listed with a 1987 date of release) and may actually refer to the original release of 1981. This would mean that it sold 480,000 copies, but from 1981 to November 2006 (as opposed to 1987 to November 2006).

                                              Another option is that its sales do indeed go as far back as 1987 (year at which the first CD version may have been released) and include some sales of the Parlophone edition from 1994 (which I already mentioned). This means that a 1987 version of "Greatest Hits" did sell 300,000 copies by early 2001, including some sales of the Parlophone edition (released in August 1994, as I said).

                                              A bit intricate. Regardless of the above, "Greatest Hits" sold 183,309 units in 1992 alone, in addition to 180,000 copies from August 1994 to November 2006. This works out to be a combined 363,309 units in more than 13 years. There are many years missing. So, it sold a minimum of 500,000 units in Argentina, if not more. And I'm sure it has sold a further 30,000 copies from late 2006 to now (in December 2007, "Greatest Hits" finished the monthly chart at #12)

                                              "A Night At The Opera" sold 120,000 copies between 1987 and early 2005. Overall, it sold at least 180,000 copies since its date of release in 1975 up until now. There are two separate certifications for this one too, and they are also difficult to interpret.

                                              "The Game" was on 120,000 copies by March 1981, just after the band played several stadium concerts in the country (in three different cities). It was still selling at the time, and would have continued to do reasonably well in subsequent months plus all of its back catalogue sales, which would be enough to be close to 180,000 copies. It reached #1 in the local album chart.

                                              "Made In Heaven" was certified double platinum (120,000 copies) in early 2001, and also peaked at #1 in 1995 (when first released). Apart from that, they reached platinum (60,000 copies) with the following albums: "Innuendo" and "Greatest Hits III". "Live Magic" was certified gold (30,000 copies) for the period between 1990 and 2000, but it was released in 1986; overall total sales are at least 60,000 units, based on that.

                                              According to an article published in the biggest local newspaper, Queen sold 850,930 CDs (not mentioning LPs and cassettes) in the ten years between 1991 and November 2001. They also mentioned that Queen rank, as far as foreign acts are concerned (English acts), as the second biggest act in Argentina after the Beatles and that their back catalogue sales are only behind those of this last group.

                                              The oldest sales are difficult to access, to be honest. But Queen's peak period was between 1977 and 1984 or so. "News Of The World" was EMI's best selling album of 1978 and Queen were the second best selling act for the record label (which took the biggest share of the album market in that year), just behind Alan Parsons Project. "Jazz" was also successful in 1979, but not as much as its predecessor.

                                              Without being sure (it is impossible to know it for a fact), Queen have sold 2,000,000 to 2,500,000 albums in Argentina.

                                              They were similarly popular in Chile. They were given a diamond award in November 2008, for sales of 500,000 albums overall during their entire career. It is tough to sell albums there. Billboard mentioned that toward the last part of the seventies and the early eighties, Queen were among the top selling acts in Chile (along with the Bee Gees and Abba).

                                              "Even though sales in Chile favor foreign material, especially such artists as the Bee Gees, Julio Iglesias, Abba, Queen, Camilo Sesto, etc., the national record companies still produce Chilean acts such as Fernando Ubiergo, Buddy Richard, Cristobal, among others." (Billboard, October 1981)

                                              They had a new peak in popularity between about 1989 and 1995: including 4 number one albums between 1989 and 1992 ("The Miracle" went to #1 during at least 3 weeks and 16 weeks in Top 10), and their "Greatest Hits II" was one of the biggest selling records (in 1992 and 1993).

                                              In Brazil, the first album their record company released was "A Night At The Opera" in 1976. According to the magazine Veja (which is a sort of Brazilian equivalent to Billboard), Queen sold 800,000 albums and singles in the five years between 1976 and March 1981, a figure that was cited as a "strong number for a foreign act". They actually toured in Brazil in March 1981; and, according to Deluz, they managed to sell 130,000 copies of "The Game" and 110,000 copies of "Greatest Hits" after their concerts in that country.

                                              "Entre compactos e LPs, o Queen vendeu, nos ultimos cinco anos, cerca de 800 000 discos, numero forte para un conjunto extrageiro, mias uma banalidade diante de un sucesso de Roberto Carlos, qui já vendeu 2 milhóes". (Veja, March 1981).

                                              Their albums would routinely sell 100,000 copies, as proven by the fact that some of their studio albums went gold: "The Works" in 1985, "A Kind Of Magic" in 1986, and "Made In Heaven" in 1996. Their "Greatest Hits II" is one of the best selling foreign albums ever in Brazil, and went double platinum in 1997. Based on how well Queen sell as a back catalogue band, some of them may be close to the platinum award or a further award.

                                              From June 2003 to now, every record released in Brazil has a code attached to it which indicates the amount of copies that are being shipped and the number of pressing. See here: http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33047

                                              EMI released, in partner with Globo, two compilations: "Collection" in 2007 and "Collection II" in 2008. They sold a combined 230,000 copies, and all of their other albums have done well. The smallest one is "Flash Gordon" (9,000 copies shipped between June 2003 and now) and the biggest one is "A Night At The Opera" (at least 21,000 copies).

                                              Overall, they have sold approximately 600,000 albums during the last 7 years, which is enough for them to be among the top selling acts for the period, with only Michael Jackson, Madonna and maybe U2 above them; Queen are basically the best selling inactive, old band for the whole time frame.

                                              MJDangerous and I have been sharing Brazilian sales information for the past months and we even attempted to estimate what some of the biggest sellers sold in Brazil. He estimated 3,500,000 to 4,000,000 albums sold in Brazil, for Queen.

                                              They were also very popular in smaller countries like Venezuela, Peru and even Bolivia. In fact, in Bolivia, "I Want To Break Free" was #1 in 1984, according to El Comercio (Peruvian magazine); I'm not joking.

                                              In Mexico and Central America, they also did well. But I don't have anywhere near as much information as I have for some of the other countries I mentioned.

                                              In Mexico, "Innuendo" was platinum (150,000 copies) in September 1992, 16 months after its release, and "Greatest Hits II" also went platinum back in the day (250,000 copies). "Made In Heaven" was certified gold (100,000 copies) just a few weeks after it was released in 1995, and has probably sold more by now. "Greatest Hits" was also platinum (250,000 copies).

                                              Their peak period was between the second half of the seventies and the first few years of the eighties. "News Of The World" was big, but I don't have any sales total; plus, they sold 200,000 copies between 1979 and 1981 (including "The Game", which reached gold). "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (certified gold), "Another One Bites The Dust", and "Flash" were all number one singles in Mexico.

                                              But I honestly don't know what they may have sold, overall, in Mexico when it comes to their albums.

                                              Anyway, when asked about the biggest foreign acts in Mexico, this is what Hafo (the most respected Mexican chart expert here) said about that:

                                              "In Mexico, these 3 would be the only current legendary non-Spanish performing artists -based on sales, concerts and overall influence in pop music- in no particular order:

                                              - U2
                                              - Michael Jackson
                                              - Madonna

                                              As in most of the world, the Beatles, Elvis Presley and Queen also had a big impact in the past. Heavy metal/hard rock bands a la Metallica are also quite popular. From the new generation, probably Coldplay, Britney and Robbie Williams would be the most famous at the moment. And of course you have those Disney-esque teen pop acts that are immensely popular now, but I doubt they'll be considered legends in 10 years.

                                              And of course, all foreign artists dwarf in comparison with sales/impact of domestic/Spanish performing acts like Juan Gabriel, Luis Miguel, Vicente Fernandez, Shakira and Ricky Martin, to name a few."

                                              He mentioned Queen in the same sentence where he also talked about the Beatles and Elvis Presley. That has to mean something. Mexico is a far bigger market than Argentina, but I'm not sure if Queen sold enough copies there to match their Argentinian sales. If I had to make a wild guess, I would say that Queen have probably sold 2,000,000 copies in Mexico. Bearing in mind that Mexico is nearly as big as Brazil as a music market, this may very well be an underestimated total.

                                              In Central America, things are tough. They were one of EMI's best selling acts in Guatemala, between 1980 and 1985 from what I found on Billboard; including a big hit with "Another One Bites The Dust", which went to #1.

                                              So, if some of the above numbers are correct, this is my take:

                                              Brazil: 3,500,000 to 4,000,000
                                              Mexico: 2,000,000
                                              Argentina: 2,000,000 to 2,500,000
                                              Chile: 500,000

                                              So, yes, I guess you are probably right; when factoring the rest of the continent, Queen may have sold 10,000,000 albums.

                                              Please, this isn't to be taken seriously, information is patchy at best.

                                              Apart from the Beatles, no other band has completely outsold them. Maybe Pink Floyd and a few others, but they can't really be that far ahead if they are at all.

                                              Counting singles and music videos, I'm sure they sold more than Pink Floyd, altogether. Although the Rolling Stones would also rank up there in that case. I know that Loris39 is interested in their Latin American sales, so I would like to know if he agrees with me or not, for instance.

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                                              • Originally posted by HUR
                                                Originally posted by Classicrock
                                                Hur

                                                What are your estimate for Queen's albums in South America(including Mexico)?

                                                They got to be the biggest internation act(outside of the Beatles) in this market?
                                                I
                                                take an uninformed stab at it say about 10 million.
                                                I will combine some of the thing I posted in the past. Sorry if you were looking for a short response but you are giving me the chance of putting together certain things I have already posted and a few more. In the end, you do get what you are asking me to.

                                                As far as albums sales are concerned, they are definitely a contender for the second best selling band, along with Pink Floyd.

                                                Argentina is proportionately their lead market.

                                                Their certifications (not all of them show up in the Capif site):

                                                A Night At The Opera: 120,000
                                                The Game: 120,000
                                                Greatest Hits: 480,000
                                                Live Magic: 30,000
                                                Innuendo: 60,000
                                                Greatest Hits II: 500,000
                                                Live At Wembley '86: 30,000
                                                Made In Heaven: 120,000
                                                Greatest Hits III: 60,000

                                                Total: 1,400,000 copies

                                                In 1992, "Greatest Hits II" sold 315,902 copies and was the second best selling album of the year (best selling English record); and "Greatest Hits" sold 183,309 copies and finished as the fourth best selling albums of the year (second best selling English album). They sold a combined 499,711 copies with these two albums and it was stated (on the article I gathered this from) that Queen were the best selling act, overall, of 1992.

                                                "Greatest Hits II" was certified diamond in October 1999, with sales of 506,916 copies by then. By now, it has definitely sold 600,000 copies (possibly more, given that it makes chart appearances nearly every year from 2000 to now). It is one of the very best selling foreign albums ever in Argentina.

                                                "Greatest Hits" is a tricky one, because it was originally released in 1981 and it is listed with two separate certifications in the Capif database. One of them was a quintuple platinum presented to the album in early 2001 (300,000 copies); and the other one was a triple platinum in November 2006 (for sales of 180,000 copies). The first one appears as having been released in 1987 and the second one refers to the Parlophone edition released in August 1994.

                                                If you combine them, you get a minimum of 480,000 copies between 1987 and November 2006, which would obviously suggest sales upwards 600,000 units as with "Greatest Hits II". But I believe there may be a mistake with the date of release of the first edition (which is listed with a 1987 date of release) and may actually refer to the original release of 1981. This would mean that it sold 480,000 copies, but from 1981 to November 2006 (as opposed to 1987 to November 2006).

                                                Another option is that sales do indeed go as far back as 1987 (year at which the first CD version may have been released) and include some sales of the Parlophone edition from 1994 (which I already mentioned). This means that a 1987 version of "Greatest Hits" did sell 300,000 copies by early 2001, including some sales of the Parlophone edition (released in August 1994, as I said).

                                                A bit intricate. Regardless of the above, "Greatest Hits" sold 183,309 units in 1992 alone, in addition to 180,000 copies from August 1994 to November 2006. This works out to be a combined 363,309 units in more than 13 years. There are many years missing. So, it sold a minimum of 500,000 units in Argentina, if not more. And I'm sure it sold has sold a further 30,000 copies from late 2006 to now (In December 2007, "Greatest Hits" finished the monthly chart at #12)

                                                "A Night At The Opera" sold 120,000 copies between 1987 and early 2005. Overall, it sold at least 180,000 copies since its date of release in 1975 up until now. There are two separate certifications for this one too, and they are also difficult to interpret.

                                                "The Game" was on 120,000 copies by March 1981, just after the band played several stadium concerts in the country (in three different cities). It was still selling at the time, and would have continued to do reasonably well in subsequent months plus all of its back catalogue sales, which would be enough to be close to 180,000 copies. It reached #1 in the local album chart.

                                                "Made In Heaven" was certified double platinum (120,000 copies) in early 2001, and also peaked at #1 in 1995 (when first released). Apart from that, they reached platinum (60,000 copies) with the following albums: "Innuendo" and "Greatest Hits III". "Live Magic" was certified gold (30,000 copies) for the period between 1990 and 2000, but it was released in 1986; overall total sales are at least 60,000 units, based on that.

                                                According to an article published in the biggest local newspaper, Queen sold 850,930 CDs (not mentioning LPs and cassettes) in the ten years between 1991 and November 2001. They also mentioned that Queen rank, as far as foreign acts are concerned (English acts), as the second biggest act in Argentina after the Beatles and that their back catalogue sales are only behind those of this last group.

                                                The oldest sales are difficult to access, to be honest. But Queen's peak period was between 1977 and 1984 or so. "News Of The World" was EMI's best selling album of 1978 and Queen were the second best selling act for the record label (which took the biggest share of the album market in that year), just behind Alan Parsons Project. "Jazz" was also successful in 1979, but not as much as its predecessor.

                                                Without being sure (it is impossible to know it for a fact), Queen have sold 2,000,000 to 2,500,000 albums in Argentina.

                                                They were similarly popular in Chile. They were given a diamond award in November 2008, for sales of 500,000 albums overall during their entire career. It is tough to sell albums there. Billboard mentioned that toward the last part of the seventies and the early eighties, Queen were among the top selling acts in Chile (along with the Bee Gees and Abba).

                                                "Even though sales in Chile favor foreign material, especially such artists as the Bee Gees, Julio Iglesias, Abba, Queen, Camilo Sesto, etc., the national record companies still produce Chilean acts such as Fernando Ubiergo, Buddy Richard, Cristobal, among others." (Billboard, October 1981)

                                                They had a new peak in popularity between about 1989 and 1995: including 4 number one albums between 1989 and 1992 ("The Miracle" went to #1 during at least 3 weeks and 16 weeks in Top 10), and their "Greatest Hits II" was one of the biggest selling records (in 1992 and 1993).

                                                In Brazil, the first album their record company released was "A Night At The Opera" in 1976. According to the magazine Veja (which is a sort of Brazilian equivalent to Billboard), Queen sold 800,000 albums and singles in the five years between 1976 and March 1981, a figure that was cited as "strong number for a foreign act". They actually toured in Brazil in March 1981; and, according to Deluz, they managed to sell 130,000 copies of "The Game" and 110,000 copies of "Greatest Hits" after their concerts in that country.

                                                "Entre compactos e LPs, o Queen vendeu, nos ultimos cinco anos, cerca de 800 000 discos, numero forte para un conjunto extrageiro, mias uma banalidade diante de un sucesso de Roberto Carlos, qui já vendeu 2 milhóes". (Veja, March 1981).

                                                Their albums would routinely sell 100,000 copies, as proven by the fact that some of their studio albums went gold: "The Works" in 1985, "A Kind Of Magic" in 1986, and "Made In Heaven" in 1996. Their "Greatest Hits II" is one of the best selling foreign albums ever in Brazil, and went double platinum in 1997. Based on how well Queen sell as a back catalogue band, some of them may be close to the platinum or a further award.

                                                From June 2003 to now, every record released in Brazil has a code attached to them which indicates the amount of copies that are being shipped and the number of pressing. See here: http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33047

                                                EMI released, in partner with Globo, two compilations: "Collection" in 2007 and "Collection II" in 2008. They sold a combined 230,000 copies, and all of their other albums have done well. The smallest one is "Flash Gordon" (9,000 copies shipped between June 2003 and now) and the biggest one is "A Night At The Opera" (at least 21,000 copies).

                                                Overall, they have sold approximately 600,000 albums during the last 7 years, which is enough for them to be among the top selling acts for the period, with only Michael Jackson, Madonna and maybe U2 above them; Queen are basically the best selling inactive, old band for the whole time frame.

                                                MJDangerous and I have been sharing Brazilian sales information for the past months and we even attempted to estimate what some of the biggest sellers sold in Brazil. He estimated 3,500,000 to 4,000,000 albums sold in Brazil, for Queen.

                                                They were also very popular in smaller countries like Venezuela, Peru and even Bolivia. In fact, in Bolivia, "I Want To Break Free" was #1 in 1984, according to El Comercio (Peruvian magazine); I'm not joking.

                                                In Mexico and Central America, they also did well. But I don't have anywhere near as much information as I have for some of the other countries I mentioned.

                                                In Mexico, "Innuendo" was platinum (150,000 copies) in September 1992, 16 months after its release, and "Greatest Hits II" also went platinum back in the day (250,000 copies). "Made In Heaven" was certified gold (100,000 copies) just a few weeks after it was released in 1995, and has probably sold more by now. "Greatest Hits" was also platinum (250,000 copies).

                                                Their peak period was between the second half of the seventies and the first few years of the eighties. "News Of The World" was big, but I don't have any sales total; plus, they sold 200,000 copies between 1979 and 1981 (including "The Game", which reached gold). "Crazy Little Thing Called Love" (certified gold), "Another One Bites The Dust", and "Flash" were all number one singles in Mexico.

                                                But I honestly don't know what they may have sold,
                                                overall, in Mexico when it comes to their albums.
                                                Anyway, when asked about the biggest foreign acts in Mexico, this what Hafo (the most respected Mexican chart expert here) said about that:

                                                "In Mexico, these 3 would be the only current legendary non-Spanish performing artists -based on sales, concerts and overall influence in pop music- in no particular order:

                                                - U2
                                                - Michael Jackson
                                                - Madonna

                                                As in most of the world, the Beatles, Elvis Presley and Queen also had a big impact in the past. Heavy metal/hard rock bands a la Metallica are also quite popular. From the new generation, probably Coldplay, Britney and Robbie Williams would be the most famous at the moment. And of course you have those Disney-esque teen pop acts that are immensely popular now, but I doubt they'll be considered legends in 10 years.”

                                                And of course, all foreign artists dwarf in comparison with sales/impact of domestic/Spanish performing acts like Juan Gabriel, Luis Miguel, Vicente Fernandez, Shakira and Ricky Martin, to name a few."

                                                He mentioned Queen in the same sentence where he also talked about the Beatles and Elvis Presley. That has to mean something. Mexico is a far bigger market than Argentina, but I'm not sure if Queen sold enough copies there to match their Argentinian sales. If I had to make a wild guess, I would say that Queen have probably sold 2,000,000 copies in Mexico. Bearing in mind that Mexico is nearly as big as Brazil as a music market, this may very well be an underestimated total.

                                                In Central America, things are tough. They were one of EMI’s best selling acts in Guatemala, between 1980 and 1985 from what I found on Billboard; including a big hit with "Another One Bites The Dust", which went to #1.

                                                So, if some of the above numbers are correct, this is my take:

                                                Brazil: 3,500,000 to 4,000,000
                                                Mexico: 2,000,000
                                                Argentina: 2,000,000 to 2,500,000
                                                Chile: 500,000

                                                So, yes, I guess you are probably right; when factoring the rest of the continent, Queen may have sold 10,000,000 albums.

                                                Please, this isn’t to be taken seriously, information is patchy at best.

                                                Apart from the Beatles, no other band has completely outsold them. Maybe Pink Floyd and a few others, but they can't really be that far ahead if they are at all.

                                                Counting singles and music videos, I'm sure they sold more than Pink Floyd, altogether. Although the Rolling Stones would also rank up there in that case.
                                                Thanks Hur
                                                Impressive analysis,I am starting to think 10 milion is on the low side

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                                                • Thank you, Classicrock. I'm glad you like it. I don't mind other users correcting any of the above totals.

                                                  Their sales are particularly big in Argentina, for some reason. Further to what I stated, I think "A Kind Of Magic" is another album that may have had good sales in Argentina. I have seen a local ranking, from 1986, where it was charting at #8 (the only English album in that Top 10). Not sure whether it had just entered or was going to leave the charts soon and I don't know if it reached a higher peak. It then had a second life, when "Friends Will Be Friends" was used in a popular soap-opera in 1990.

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                                                  • This week on UK album charts, another chart disaster....


                                                    174. (166) GREATEST HITS [REMASTERED] (Queen) :x

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                                                    • Canada

                                                      # 16 Queen - Absolute Greatest
                                                      Prisoner Of Rock'n'Roll

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                                                      • South Korean chart:

                                                        Greatest Hits I is #3
                                                        Greatest Hits II is #25

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                                                        • Originally posted by borderwolf
                                                          Canada

                                                          # 16 Queen - Absolute Greatest
                                                          Long Live Rock n´Roll

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                                                          • Originally posted by trueno
                                                            Originally posted by borderwolf
                                                            Canada

                                                            # 16 Queen - Absolute Greatest
                                                            Hello Trueno,

                                                            I checked the Canadian charts and I couldn't find "Absolute Greatest" at #16. I'm thinking that Borderwolf may have confused it with another country. But I'm not sure.

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                                                            • Originally posted by HUR
                                                              Originally posted by trueno
                                                              Originally posted by borderwolf
                                                              Canada

                                                              # 16 Queen - Absolute Greatest
                                                              Hello Trueno,

                                                              I checked the Canadian charts and I couldn't find "Absolute Greatest" at #16. I'm thinking that Borderwolf may have confused it with another country. But I'm not sure.
                                                              No,no!! Look here:

                                                              http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/Charts/ALBUMS.html
                                                              Long Live Rock n´Roll

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