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  • #1
    so The Immaculate Collection in UK

    2000:
    Music Week sales 2.785.000
    Club sales 515.000
    BPI 11xP = 3.300.000 = 2.785.000 + 515.000

    2001:
    Music Week sales 2.785.000 + 177.000 = 2.962.000
    Club sales 525.000
    BPI 11xP = 3.300.000 = 2.785.000 + 515.000

    2002:
    Music Week sales 2.962.000 + 114.000 = 3.076.000
    Club sales 535.000
    BPI 12xP = 3.600.000 = 3.076.000 + 524.000

    2003:
    Music Week sales 3.076.000 + 115.000 = 3.191.000
    Club sales 545.000

    2004:
    Music Week sales 3.191.000 + 115.000 = 3.306.000
    Club sales 555.000

    2005:
    Music Week sales 3.306.000 + 58.000 = 3.365.000
    Club sales 560.000

    2006 (what month?):
    Music Week sales 3.402.000
    Club sales 570.000

    4 million copies

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    • #2
      Huumm, it seems that our "problem" or one of our "problems" is to find Club sales for some of those albums...

      For instance for "the joshua tree", "brothers in arms", "bridge over troubled water", the phil collins albums, "legend"...

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      • #3
        if ROL has 250.000 of the club sales then TIC at least 500.000
        may be jimmypages59 has the figures for another albums?

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        • #4
          UK best albums 2006

          #110 The Immaculate Collection 174.000

          2002: 114.000 (music week's total 3.076.000)
          BPI 12xP = 3.600.000 = 3.076.000 + club sales 524.000

          2003: 115.000 (3.191.000)
          2004: 115.000 (3.306.000)
          2005: 58.000 (3.365.000)
          2006: 174.000 (3.539.000)

          club sales ~570.000

          Total: 4,1 million

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          • #5
            Originally posted by thebigham
            Best Selling UK Albums:

            Madonna has 4 entries:

            10 THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION MADONNA 3,402,160

            64 TRUE BLUE MADONNA 1,961,164

            101 RAY OF LIGHT MADONNA 1,677,925

            109 LIKE A VIRGIN MADONNA 1,626,126
            Did this list include club sales in any of its top 100 entries? They made it seem like it was the definitive list of top albums,

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            • #6
              No, apparently it didn't include Club Sales.
              With this new number (3.5M), does TIC climb to #9 on the All Time Chart?
              Touched for the very first time

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              • #7
                Did this list include club sales in any of its top 100 entries?
                No for Madonna
                "Ray of Light" shop's sales: 1,68 M (your list)
                total sales: (with club sales) 1,92 M

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                • #8
                  UK 02/2007

                  The Immaculate Collection #115 (-9)

                  shop's sales ~3,55 M ; total sales with club sales 4,1 M

                  so it's now at #9 on the list of best-selling albums in UK (shop sales)

                  1 Greatest Hits Queen 5.40m
                  2 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band The Beatles 4.81m
                  3 (What's the Story) Morning Glory? Oasis 4.31m
                  4 Brothers in Arms Dire Straits 3.95m
                  5 Gold: Greatest Hits ABBA 3.94m
                  6 The Dark Side of the Moon Pink Floyd 3.78m
                  7 Greatest Hits II Queen 3.64m
                  8 Thriller Michael Jackson 3.57m
                  10 The Immaculate Collection Madonna 3.55m
                  9 Bad Michael Jackson 3.55m

                  Hung Up #195 (-41)
                  Jump out (#191)

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                  • #9
                    I have a question abot TIC sales in the US

                    Up till now it has SoundScanned - 5 466 000
                    BMG club record sales - 1 460 000

                    that is just around 7 000 000, but did it sell anything before SoundScan era and how much?

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                    • #10
                      Mediatraffic.de published all time track chart:

                      Like a Prayer at #81 and no Vogue at all!


                      TRACKS

                      ALL TIME CHART

                      1 Elton John - Candle In The Wind 1997 A&M - 1997
                      2 White Christmas - Bing Crosby Decca - 1942 (1947)
                      3 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley & His Comets Decca - 1955
                      4 I Want To Hold Your Hand - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1963
                      5 Hey Jude - Beatles Apple - 1968
                      6 I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston Arista - 1992
                      7 (Everything I Do) I Do It For You - Bryan Adams A&M - 1991
                      8 We Are The World - U.S.A. For Africa Columbia - 1985
                      9 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - Rolling Stones Decca / London - 1965
                      10 Y.M.C.A. - Village People Metronome / Casablanca - 1978
                      11 Let It Be - Beatles Apple - 1970
                      12 Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon & Garfunkel Columbia - 1970
                      13 My Sweet Lord - George Harrison Apple - 1970
                      14 My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion Columbia - 1998
                      15 Gangsta's Paradise - Coolio feat. feat. L.V. MCA - 1995
                      16 I'll Be Missing You - Puff Daddy feat. Faith Evan & 112 Bad Boy - 1997
                      17 Macarena - Los Del Rio RCA - 1996
                      18 You're The One That I Want - John Travolta & livia Newton John RSO - 1978
                      19 Believe - Cher Warner Bros. - 1998
                      20 Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra Reprise - 1966
                      21 Oh, Pretty Woman - Roy Orbison London / Monument - 1964
                      22 Flashdance...What A Feeling - Irene Cara Casablanca - 1983
                      23 Imagine - John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band Apple - 1971
                      24 Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen EMI / Elektra - 1975
                      25 Every Breath You Take - Police A&M - 1983
                      26 Another Brick In The Wall (Part 2) - Pink Floyd Harvest / Columbia - 1980
                      27 Eye Of The Tiger - Survivor Scotti Bros. - 1982
                      28 Those Were The Days - Mary Hopkin Apple - 1968
                      29 Stayin' Alive - Bee Gees RSO - 1977
                      30 Billie Jean - Michael Jackson Epic - 1983
                      31 Careless Whisper - George Michael Epic / Columbia - 1984
                      32 I Just Called To Say I Love You - Stevie Wonder Motown - 1984
                      33 Dancing Queen - Abba Atlantic / Epic / Polydor - 1966
                      34 It's Now Or Never - Elvis Presley RCA - 1960
                      35 Heart Of Glass - Blondie Chrysalis - 1979
                      36 Penny Lane - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1966
                      37 Can't Buy Me Love - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1963
                      38 Baby One More Time - Britney Spears Jive - 1999
                      39 Yesterday - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1965
                      40 Funky Town - Lipps, Inc. Casablanca - 1980
                      41 We Can Work It Out - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1965
                      42 Killing Me Softly - Fugees Ruffhouse / Columbia - 1996
                      43 Hung Up - Madonna Warner Bros. - 2005
                      44 Woman In Love - Barbra Streisand CBS - 1980
                      45 Wannabe - Spice Girls Virgin - 1996
                      46 Hips Don't Lie - Shakira feat. Wyclef Jean Epic - 2006
                      47 In The Year 2525 (Exordium & Terminus) - Zager & Evans RCA Victor - 1969
                      48 Mambo No.5 - Lou Bega RCA - 1999
                      49 You're Beautiful - James Blunt Atlantic - 2006
                      50 Stand By Me - Ben E.King Atco / Atlantic - 1961
                      51 Can't Get You Out Of My Head - Kylie Minogue Parlophone - 2001
                      52 Get Back - Beatles Apple - 1969
                      53 I Feel Fine - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1964
                      54 Nothing Compares 2 U - Sinead O'Connor Chrysalis - 1990
                      55 When A Man Loves A Woman - Percy Sledge Atlantic - 1966
                      56 Help! - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1965
                      57 Music - Madonna Maverick - 2000
                      58 Venus - Shocking Blue Metronome / Colossus - 1969
                      59 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum Deram - 1967
                      60 She Love's You - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1963
                      61 (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding Volt / Atlantic - 1968
                      62 Jumpin' Jack Flash - Rolling Stones Decca / London - 1968
                      63 Diana - Paul Anka ABC-Paramount / Columbia - 1957
                      64 Whenever Wherever - Shakira Epic - 2002
                      65 All You Need Is Love - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1967
                      66 Crazy - Gnarls Barkley Warner Bros. - 2006
                      67 Come Together - Beatles Apple - 1970
                      68 Hello Goodbye - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1967
                      69 Good Vibrations - Beach Boys Capitol - 1966
                      70 I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) -Meat Loaf Virgin / MCA - 1993
                      71 Kung Fu Fighting - Carl Douglas Pye / 20th Century - 1974
                      72 Beat It - Michael Jackson Epic - 1983
                      73 Night Fever - Bee Gees RSO - 1977
                      74 Mr. Tambourine Man - Byrds CBS / Columbia - 1965
                      75 In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry IRS / Dawn / Janus - 1970
                      76 Seasons In The Sun - Terry Jacks Bell - 1974
                      77 Rock Your Baby - George McCrae T.K. / RCA - 1974
                      78 Wind Of Change - Scorpions Mercury - 1991
                      79 Daydream Believer - Monkees Colgems / RCA - 1967
                      80 In The Air Tonight - Phil Collins Atlantic - 1981
                      81 Like A Prayer - Madonna Sire - 1989
                      82 Let's Dance - David Bowie EMI - 1983
                      83 Karma Chameleon - Culture Club Virgin / Epic - 1983
                      84 A Hard Day's Night - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1964
                      85 The Boy Is Mine - Brandy & Monica Atlantic - 1998
                      86 Yellow Submarine - Beatles Parlophone / Capitol - 1966
                      87 Hound Dog - Elvis Presley RCA - 1956
                      88 Honky Tonk Women - Rolling Stones Decca / London - 1969
                      89 Sugar, Sugar - Archies RCA - 1969
                      90 Bette Davis Eyes - Kim Carnes EMI - 1981
                      91 The Final Countdown - Europe Epic - 1986
                      92 All That She Wants - Ace Of Base Metronome / Arista - 1993
                      93 Rose Garden - Lynn Anderson Columbia - 1971
                      94 Angie - Rolling Stones Rolling Stones - 1973
                      95 Rivers Of Babylon - Boney M. Hansa / Atlantic - 1978
                      96 San Fransisco - Scott McKenzie Ode / CBS - 1967
                      97 Downtown - Petula Clark Warner Bros. / Pye - 1965
                      98 Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana DGC / Geffen - 1991
                      99 Relax - Frankie Goes To Hollywood ZTT / Island - 1984
                      100 You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - Righteous rothers Philles / London - 1964

                      http://www.mediatraffic.de/alltime-track-chart.htm
                      2010 COMPLETE MADONNA-GRAMMY HISTORY: 28 nods and 7 awards

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                      • #11
                        Originally posted by TiagoRodrigues
                        Originally posted by thebigham
                        3/17/07 Catalog chart:


                        124 MADONNA IMMACULATE COLLECTION 2139 -1% 2156 5,524,071 (10xp)
                        If this album only sold a little more then 5 million copies...why is it 10 X Platinum?!

                        I swear i thought this had sold more then 10 million copies! :-?
                        1. It was released before the Soundscan era. It was certified 3xp before the Soundscan era.

                        2. It sold 1 million in the BMG Record Club, which aren't counted by Soundscan.

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                        • #12
                          TIC would have actually climbed to #9 in the list, selling over 3.550.000 copies. It did 170.000+ in 2006 alone. Adding alleged club sales, TIC might have shipped over 4.000.000 copies in the UK.

                          Last cert of TIC as 12xP was in 2003, btw.
                          Touched for the very first time

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                          • #13
                            "Adding alleged club sales, TIC might have shipped over 4.000.000 copies in the UK. "

                            In your wildest dreams... in late 2005 it had sold 3,600,000 copies (according to the BPI) and 1 year and a half it would sold... 500,000 copies??

                            Even COADF doesnt sell that nowadays lol

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                            • #14
                              2002: 114.000 (music week's total 3.076.000)
                              BPI 12xP = 3.600.000 = 3.076.000 + club sales 524.000

                              2003: 115.000 (3.191.000)
                              2004: 115.000 (3.306.000)
                              2005: 58.000 (3.365.000)
                              2006: 174.000 (3.539.000)
                              2007: 25.000 (3.564.000)
                              club sales ~570.000

                              Total: enough for 14xP (4.200.000)
                              sales since 12xP certification: over 500.000
                              and 3.402.160 in OCC list is for begin of 2006 I guess

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                              • #15
                                Originally posted by Hafo
                                I thought the OCC chart cut-out date was June, 2006. Was any date actually released by them? The summer date makes sense with Sniper numbers, and the Music Weekly figure of 3.076.000 in 2002 has been confirmed as far as I know.

                                TIC sold around 20K in December alone btw
                                Are you sure that this number is not from 2003 ? The cut-out date of the OCC list was end-october early-november for sure. TIC sold about 3.47m hard sales by now, which mean about 2.98m at the moment of his certification, > 620K from Music club/excess shipment (some copies their due to christmas a few days before).
                                Adding about 600K to the 3.47m hard sales, this equal to about 4.07m sold by now.
                                25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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                                • #16
                                  let's finally for TIC to the end of 2006
                                  hard sales: 3,45
                                  club sales: 0,65
                                  total: 4,1

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                                  • #17
                                    Originally posted by sniper
                                    Are there any albums else from Top20 OCC list proves that the sales are for october 2006 ?
                                    Check sales from Dido's albums or The Beatles' 1. Also Green Day's American Idiot, Scissor Sisters, Keane's Hopes & Fears etc..
                                    Originally posted by sniper
                                    let's finally for TIC to the end of 2006
                                    hard sales: 3,45
                                    club sales: 0,65
                                    total: 4,1
                                    The 0.65m figure include shipments. In this way, I agree.
                                    Originally posted by Carftwork
                                    Again, TIC was certified 12xP in 2003, 10 January, 51 months ago icon_rolleyes.gif
                                    Yeah but in 2003 TIC was ranked n5 or n6 in the list of UK's best selling albums of all time and in late 2005 it dropped to n10...
                                    You are wrong. The list of 2005 was a list of shipment, TIC is #10 in hard shop sales, adding music club sales it jumped several places.
                                    25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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                                    • #18
                                      The Immaculate Collection in US

                                      BMG Record Club sales as of 2004jan: 1.460.000
                                      Columbia House sales: ???
                                      Soundscan: 5.536.000 (1991 mar - 2007 apr 15)
                                      Digital sales: 26.320

                                      Code:
                                      1990 nov13: released
                                      1991 jan18:  2xP
                                      1991 march: Soundscan started
                                      1991 dec04:  3xP
                                      1993 sep20:  4xP
                                      1995 mar16:  6xP
                                      1996: 221.284
                                      1997: 302.427
                                      1999 nov28: Soundscan total: 3.859.905
                                      2000 mar16:  9xP
                                      2001 oct11: 10xP
                                      2003 dec02: Soundscan total: 4.985.627
                                      2004: 194.275
                                      2005: 165.110 (-15%)
                                      2006: 142.580 (-14%)
                                      2007 apr15: Soundscan total: 5.536.000

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                                      • #19
                                        Originally posted by sniper
                                        The Immaculate Collection in US

                                        BMG Record Club sales as of 2004jan: 1.460.000
                                        1.46 million as of Feb. 2003, not Jan. 2004.


                                        BMG Music Club- Top Selling Albums, through Feb. 2003...

                                        www.mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=47877

                                        SHANIA, BACKSTREET, BRITNEY, EMIMEN AND JANET TOP ALL TIME SELLERS

                                        Celebrating 14 years as the world's largest music club currently serving more than 20 million members announced their all time sellers today.

                                        The BMG Music Club sold more than 300 million cassettes and CD's in it's 14 years in business, and this month will honor the clubs Top 100 Selling CD's with a special Plaque, plus all Top 100 will be included BMG's music publication issued to club members at a special discount price.

                                        With nearly 2 million units sold, Shania Twain's "Come On Over" owns the title as the clubs #1 selling LP, Twain also appears on the list at #25 with "The Woman In Me" which has sold more than 1.2 million copies, again at #90 with the newly released "UP!" which also sold nearly a half-million copies in the 6 weeks the club has been selling the title, and at #96 with her self-titled debut with almost 400,000 units sold.

                                        Backstreet Boys and 'N Sync prove their staying power with each boy band placing two albums in the all-time Top 10, closing out the Top 10 is Pop Diva Madonna with her "Immaculate Collection" with just about 1.5 million units sold in the music club, the superstar also appears on the list with "Like A Virgin," (#59, 822,000 units), "Ray Of Light," (#91, 459,000 units) and "True Blue," (#99, 301,000 units), not to mention her other club titles which didn't make the Top 100 "Madonna Remasters 3-Pack," (11,000 units), "The Early Years - Give It To Me," (8,000 units), "GV2," (90,000 units), "Music," (97,000 units), "Something To Remember," (179,000 units), "Bedtime Stories," (195,000 units,) "Erotica," (84,000 units), and "Like A Prayer," (244,000 units).

                                        Another Pop Diva Janet Jackson appears in the Top 10 with a greatest hits collection, Jackson's "Design Of A Decade 1986/1996," is the clubs biggest selling hits collection from a female singer closing in at #9 with nearly 1.5 million units sold, Jackson appears on the all-time chart 5 times (with two discontinued albums from the club due to contractual agreements), at #35 with the groundbreaking "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814," #58 with "Control," #63 with "Janet.," and #95 with "The Velvet Rope," other Jackson title's include "All For You," (100,000 units sold and issued under contractual agreement), "Dream Street" (44,000 units) and "Janet Jackson," (82,000 units).

                                        BMG Music Club Top 100 Best Selling Albums Of All Time

                                        10. MADONNA - THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION (WARNER BROS) (1.46 million units)

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                                        • #20
                                          with club sales >4.120.000 copies
                                          14xPlatinum very soon

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                                          • #21
                                            http://www.bpi.co.uk/index.asp?Page=sta ... _126.shtml

                                            Best Selling UK Albums Of All Time

                                            1 Greatest Hits Queen
                                            2 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Beatles
                                            3 What's The Story Morning Glory Oasis
                                            4 Brothers In Arms Dire Straits
                                            5 Gold - Greatest Hits Abba
                                            6 The Dark Side Of The Moon Pink Floyd
                                            7 Greatest Hits II Queen
                                            8 Thriller Michael Jackson
                                            9 Bad Michael Jackson
                                            10 The Immaculate Collection Madonna

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                                            • #22
                                              I think 11x Platinum is a certainty.

                                              When it was certified 10x Platinum it had known sales of around 8.1 million (pre-Soundscan, Soundscan era and BMG record club), known sales are 1 million higher now. So 11x Platinum is very plausible.

                                              I'd love to see an 11x Platinum certification in the US and a 14x Platinum certification in the UK, with the release of the new album.

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                                              • #23
                                                Originally posted by thebigham
                                                COADF has only sold 1.65 million. That is not enough for 2xp.
                                                I've seen albums being re-certified by less :-?

                                                Maybe club sales (although they are MUCH lower then they were) were good for this album...you never know :-?

                                                I know...i'm making stuff up just to say this album deserves a 2nd certification, you don't have to tell me that! LOL
                                                "Your actions speak louder than promises/You're inclined to make and inclined to break"

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                                                • #24
                                                  UK / Musicweek

                                                  1990 - 2 (YEC) - 1.2m BPI
                                                  1991 - 8 (YEC) - 1.8m BPI
                                                  1992 - 68 (YEC) - 2.1m BPI
                                                  1993 no info
                                                  1994 - 100 (YEC) - 19 (T200w) - 2.7m BPI
                                                  1995 - 23 (T200w)
                                                  1996 - 10 (T200w)
                                                  1997 - 30 (T200w)

                                                  Sales from 1990 to 1997 2,470,000 (MW)

                                                  1998 - 68,700 sold (MW) - 45 (T200w)
                                                  1999 - 79,968 sold (MW) - 161 (YEC) - 49 (T200w)

                                                  Sales from 1990 to 1999 2,619,000 (MW)

                                                  2000 - 166,000 sold (MW) - 82 (YEC) - 52 (T200w) - 3.3m BPI
                                                  2001 - 177,070 sold (MW) - 90 (YEC) - 51 (T200w)
                                                  2002 - 113,400 sold (MW) - 136 (YEC) - 47 (T200w) - 3.6m BPI (12xPlatinum)

                                                  Sales from 1990 to 2002 3,075,400 (MW)
                                                  Music club sales 1990 to 2002 +525,000
                                                  BPI certification 12xP 3,600,000

                                                  2003 - 115.000
                                                  2004 - 115.000
                                                  2005 - 58.000
                                                  2006 - 174.000
                                                  2007 - 60.000

                                                  Sales from 2000 to 2007 978,470 (MW)
                                                  Sales from 1990 to 2007 3,597,470 (MW)

                                                  Originally posted by Music Week
                                                  As Glasgow band The Fratellis gear up for the release of their second album Here We Stand next month, their 2006 debut Costello Music has passed the 1m sales mark. The album, which peaked at number two, has become the 134th album to sell a seven-figure quantity in the 21st century. Next to join the list will be Madonna’s 1990 compilation The Immaculate Collection, which should reach the target next week. The Immaculate Collection has sold more than 3.6m copies in total.

                                                  Sales 2008 jan - apr: 25,000
                                                  Sales since last BPI certification: 547,000

                                                  Total with music club sales: over 4,150,000 in UK

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                                                  • #25
                                                    even though tesco have given the IC for for free they will still count towards the shipments as they have had to purchase them of the record company. (i.e. same as record club sales).

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