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  • #31
    Sign O the Times in #198 in UK !
    25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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    • #32
      Originally posted by MJDangerous
      Sign O the Times in #198 in UK !
      Genius album, his best.

      Altho I also like Dirty Mind and 1999.

      All of his 80s albums are worth investigating.
      Mummy, mummy, it's the Gods!

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      • #33
        "Ultimate" Sales in the UK :: 93,897
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        • #34
          I wonder where Planet Earth will end up at in America. The album has mixed word of mouth at best, and even among Prince fans, this album seems to already be regarded as one of the weakest in his catalog (and considering the albums he recorded between 1992-1999, barring Gold Experience, this says something). I always like to see Prince sell well, but I don't think the album will be able to wind up doing even what 3121 did. 3121 was generally regarded as a good album.
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          • #35
            12/08/07 Catalog chart

            200 PRINCE VERY BEST OF PRINCE 3,179 +67% 1,898 1,401,976 (1xp)

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            • #36
              On a whim earlier, I was looking at reviews on Amazon and decided to type in Prince. Outside of the two most recent collections and a few of the poorer catalog sellers (like Come and Symbol), the entire Warner Prince catalog is currently available only via used CD's, even the bigger titles like 1999 and Purple Rain that would never go out of print.

              Makes me wonder if this means Warner is planning on releasing remaster editions of his 1978-1994 catalog in the new year. 2008 would make sense since it not only marks Prince's 50th birthday but also 30 years from the release of "For You", his debut. Does anyone know if they are working on these or if it's just a mere coincidence and the majority of his albums all sold out at once?

              If this is the case, what a nice Christmas present from Warner.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by NothingFails
                On a whim earlier, I was looking at reviews on Amazon and decided to type in Prince. Outside of the two most recent collections and a few of the poorer catalog sellers (like Come and Symbol), the entire Warner Prince catalog is currently available only via used CD's, even the bigger titles like 1999 and Purple Rain that would never go out of print.

                Makes me wonder if this means Warner is planning on releasing remaster editions of his 1978-1994 catalog in the new year. 2008 would make sense since it not only marks Prince's 50th birthday but also 30 years from the release of "For You", his debut. Does anyone know if they are working on these or if it's just a mere coincidence and the majority of his albums all sold out at once?

                If this is the case, what a nice Christmas present from Warner.
                I wish it could be! Nevertheless, Prince really don't care about it...Maybe when he dies?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by facedown36
                  Originally posted by NothingFails
                  On a whim earlier, I was looking at reviews on Amazon and decided to type in Prince. Outside of the two most recent collections and a few of the poorer catalog sellers (like Come and Symbol), the entire Warner Prince catalog is currently available only via used CD's, even the bigger titles like 1999 and Purple Rain that would never go out of print.

                  Makes me wonder if this means Warner is planning on releasing remaster editions of his 1978-1994 catalog in the new year. 2008 would make sense since it not only marks Prince's 50th birthday but also 30 years from the release of "For You", his debut. Does anyone know if they are working on these or if it's just a mere coincidence and the majority of his albums all sold out at once?

                  If this is the case, what a nice Christmas present from Warner.
                  I wish it could be! Nevertheless, Prince really don't care about it...Maybe when he dies?
                  true, but it is probably Warner's doing. Purple Rain still sells exceptionally well for a studio album from 1984 (it's catalog sales are slightly lower than Thriller and much stronger than Born In The U.S.A.) that I don't think Warner would just up and delete it without good reason. Come to think of it, I've noticed stores have been low on Warner Prince stock for a few months, so maybe the remasters are something that are really going to happen. Purple Rain is way too good a catalog seller to just delete, it was still selling at over 2000 a week a few months ago.
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                  • #39
                    1/26/08 chart:

                    2 WAR 162 159 PRINCE VERY BEST OF PRINCE 1,641 -21% 2,078 1,420,253 (1xp)

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by thebigham
                      1/26/08 chart:

                      2 WAR 162 159 PRINCE VERY BEST OF PRINCE 1,641 -21% 2,078 1,420,253 (1xp)
                      Very good numbers for Prince but it seems like it has cut into "Purple Rain's" sales because it's not charting catalog wise like it was several months ago.

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                      • #41
                        Purple Rain is currently out of print in America right now, the entire Warner output (barring Very Best Of and Ultimate Prince, both released this decade) is currently deleted and no longer available at Amazon (and the Best Buy by me that used to have a lot of copies of Purple Rain and 1999 are out of it since they sold the remaining copies). I'm guessing we're going to have an announcement of remasters sometime this year, since Prince is turning 50 this summer and this summer also marks 30 years since For You was released.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by NothingFails
                          Purple Rain is currently out of print in America right now, the entire Warner output (barring Very Best Of and Ultimate Prince, both released this decade) is currently deleted and no longer available at Amazon (and the Best Buy by me that used to have a lot of copies of Purple Rain and 1999 are out of it since they sold the remaining copies). I'm guessing we're going to have an announcement of remasters sometime this year, since Prince is turning 50 this summer and this summer also marks 30 years since For You was released.
                          Wow, i didn't know that thanks Nothing Fails.

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                          • #43
                            Cool

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                            • #44
                              From the NYT :



                              In just three weeks, Prince's nine-song soundtrack album for ''Batman'' (Warner Brothers) has soared to No. 1 on Billboard's pop album chart, at least temporarily displacing ''The Raw and the Cooked'' by the Fine Young Cannibals. The album has already sold more than 1.6 million copies, and reorders continue to pour in at over 100,000 a week. ''Batdance,'' Prince's single from the soundtrack, has sold more than 980,000 copies and is No. 4 on Billboard's pop singles chart.
                              25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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                              • #45
                                Don't ask me why only now, but last October 17, the Prince's album 1999 was certified Platinum by the BPI !!

                                So, since 2004 we had

                                "Diamonds & Pearls" at 3xPlatinum (November 2004)
                                "Prince" , Silver (November 2004)

                                and now 4 years later "1999".

                                And i ask, where is the certification for "Purple Rain"???

                                It's now 18 years (!!) since its 2xPlatinum award...


                                :evil:

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                                • #46
                                  good time to update this as

                                  Prince to release new CD set through Target

                                  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090302/ap_ ... lcF3FxFb8C

                                  Prince is coming to a Target near you.

                                  The superstar is releasing a three-disc CD set through the retailer at the end of this month. The set will include two new albums — "LOtUSFLOW3R" and "MPLSoUND" — as well as a third by his new artist, Bria Valente, for the price of $11.98.

                                  Prince is just the latest music legend to release new music exclusively through a major retailer. AC/DC and the Eagles were among the acts who sold millions of CDs through their partnership with Wal-Mart.

                                  Prince has released his recent CDs through major labels, but they were one-album deals that gave him the flexibility to go elsewhere when the project was done. Last fall, he released a coffee table book of photos titled "21 Nights" documenting his record-breaking, 21-night run at London's 02 Arena in 2007. The book also included a CD of live performances.

                                  "Prince has long been renowned as one of the world's most original and iconic musical artists," said Mark Schindele, Target's senior vice president of merchandising. "We are thrilled to have the opportunity to share his most recent work with our Target guests."

                                  The CD set will be on sale at Target and its Web site on March 29.

                                  Prince and Target: Match Made in Discount Heaven

                                  http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... topstories



                                  When you think of Prince, do you expect to get more and pay less? Probably not, but that hasn't prevented Target, the 1,677 store discount chain, from striking a deal with his royal funkiness to be the exclusive retail outlet for Prince's new three-disc set. The Prince collection features two predictably tough to spell-check original studio albums, LOtUSFLOW3R and MPLSoUND, and a third record, Elixer, which will introduce the world to Bria Valente, the next in the long line of purple protégés.

                                  Target will bundle all three albums together for $11.98, available starting March 29.

                                  Other than the fact that both hail from Minneapolis, what brings this odd couple together is one thing: money. Linking up with an exclusive retailer is not a new idea, but of late it's proven to be quite a profitable one, at least for well-established musicians. The Eagles and AC/DC released their most recent original albums exclusively through Wal-Mart — in January, Bruce Springsteen gave the chain an exclusive greatest hits set — and each benefited from massive in-store promotion and stop-the-cart placement; AC/DC's Black Ice sold 1.92 million copies to rank as the fifth best-selling album of 2008. Paul McCartney also saw some of the best sales of his solo career when he struck a less exclusive deal with Starbucks and its record arm Hear Music.

                                  While no one on the music or retailing sides is desperate to reveal the price tag of an exclusive rights deal, several sources indicate that bands have received in the mid-six figures to fork over their music and participate in promotion.

                                  As interesting as Prince's new music is likely to be — and through all of his experiments and career meandering, he's never made a dull album — the marriage of musician and retailer is just as intriguing. The upside for Prince is obvious: in an era when record sales continue to slide, there's nothing quite as sweet as cash up-front, even if it does mean your face on a big cardboard display right next to the Swiffer. For Target, there's a small element of brand burnishing — Prince likes us! — but the music is primarily just one more product to seduce shoppers into stores.

                                  Whether Target sees an uptick in sales of purple linens remains to be seen, but each of these rock and retail experiments brings the future of the record industry into slightly sharper relief. And for mature acts who can bring an upscale fan base into stores, that future appears to be brightening.
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                                  • #47
                                    U.S.A.
                                    Top SOUNDTRACKS
                                    Week Ending 3/29/09
                                    WAR 33 35 30 PRINCE PURPLE RAIN 1,170 1,057 11 2,522,331
                                    Prisoner Of Rock'n'Roll

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                                    • #48
                                      bring on the remasters!!!

                                      With this being the 25th anniversary of Purple Rain, it'd be stupid if Warner doesn't cash in and do a remaster/deluxe edition or something like that. These 1980's Prince cd's need a sound upgrade. I think Around The World In A Day, Parade, Sign O' The Times and Lovesexy have the potential to sound amazing remastered. All four of those albums have so much sonically going for it that hearing them remastered would be like listening to them for the very first time.
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                                      • #49
                                        Originally posted by NothingFails
                                        bring on the remasters!!!

                                        With this being the 25th anniversary of Purple Rain, it'd be stupid if Warner doesn't cash in and do a remaster/deluxe edition or something like that. These 1980's Prince cd's need a sound upgrade. I think Around The World In A Day, Parade, Sign O' The Times and Lovesexy have the potential to sound amazing remastered. All four of those albums have so much sonically going for it that hearing them remastered would be like listening to them for the very first time.
                                        Yeah. I bought Purple Rain 6 months ago. Of course, it definitely needs remastering.
                                        Warner should be remastering all of his albums from 1979-1988, or at least just the huge classics - "Dirty Mind", "1999", "Purple Rain", "Parade" and "Sign O' the Times". ATWIAD and Lovesexy are good albums, but not masterpieces...
                                        BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & BARBRA STREISAND celebrating their 9th #1 albums this year. Still making history...

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                                        • #50
                                          according to HDD (I hope Soundscan too), LotusFlow3r is #1 with 185k. Giving him a fifth US #1 album!
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                                          • #51
                                            Originally posted by carlos06
                                            Originally posted by NothingFails
                                            bring on the remasters!!!

                                            With this being the 25th anniversary of Purple Rain, it'd be stupid if Warner doesn't cash in and do a remaster/deluxe edition or something like that. These 1980's Prince cd's need a sound upgrade. I think Around The World In A Day, Parade, Sign O' The Times and Lovesexy have the potential to sound amazing remastered. All four of those albums have so much sonically going for it that hearing them remastered would be like listening to them for the very first time.
                                            Yeah. I bought Purple Rain 6 months ago. Of course, it definitely needs remastering.
                                            Warner should be remastering all of his albums from 1979-1988, or at least just the huge classics - "Dirty Mind", "1999", "Purple Rain", "Parade" and "Sign O' the Times". ATWIAD and Lovesexy are good albums, but not masterpieces...
                                            Warner and Prince are both losing a lot of money by not remastering those albums. There is a treasure trove of unreleased material from all of those albums. He could easily expand them into 2 CD deluxe editions and a lot of people will buy them.
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                                            • #52
                                              The display of the sales outside the USA in the first page of this thread was completely reformulated.
                                              Now i believe is much more easy to check Prince's international certifications and sales.

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                                              • #53
                                                not that it's much of a difference, but 3121 was reported 530k in December 2008 in the "lowest selling #1's" article
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                                                • #54
                                                  i don't understand...
                                                  How come LOTUS FLOW3R could be only #2 with 168 000, when a few hours ago he sold 186 000?

                                                  i have another question : did Planet Earth really be scanned at only 220 000? It is very low for a #3 position...

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                                                  • #55
                                                    Originally posted by facedown36
                                                    i have another question : did Planet Earth really be scanned at only 220 000? It is very low for a #3 position...
                                                    Planet Earth was released a week after being given away for free in the UK, without any promo or even a tour, as Prince had a London residency in the summer of 2007.

                                                    It's not that shocking, his hardcore fans picked it up in its first week so it could debut at #3 but after that it started freefalling as there was no promo to keep it on the charts.

                                                    I think LF might reach 400k.

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                                                    • #56
                                                      according to Wiki (take it with a grain of salt), the album was at 295k or so in October 2007, so I guess it's slightly over 300k at this point. Not great at all, but not too shabby considering he did no US promo for the album and he'd given the album away in the UK a few weeks prior to it's release here.
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                                                      • #57
                                                        Originally posted by facedown36
                                                        i don't understand...
                                                        How come LOTUS FLOW3R could be only #2 with 168 000, when a few hours ago he sold 186 000?
                                                        I guess it was because HDD counted some "digital copies" sold exclusively through Prince's LOTUSFLOW3R website that are not eligible in SoundScan.
                                                        Anyway, another hugely dissapointing week in terms of charts for me...
                                                        BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN & BARBRA STREISAND celebrating their 9th #1 albums this year. Still making history...

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                                                        • #58
                                                          Originally posted by carlos06
                                                          Originally posted by facedown36
                                                          i don't understand...
                                                          How come LOTUS FLOW3R could be only #2 with 168 000, when a few hours ago he sold 186 000?
                                                          I guess it was because HDD counted some "digital copies" sold exclusively through Prince's LOTUSFLOW3R website that are not eligible in SoundScan.
                                                          Anyway, another hugely dissapointing week in terms of charts for me...
                                                          For me too, and I think this is very, very unfair...Lotus Flower sold indeed more physical copies than Urban Keith.

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                                                          • #59
                                                            Originally posted by facedown36
                                                            Originally posted by Edu
                                                            In the 26 weeks that "Musicology" spent on the Billboard-200 Soundscan reported a total of 1,893,000 CDs sold, of which 1,066,000 came from the Tour tickets and "only" 827,000 were result of retail sales.
                                                            Honestly i can't consider the sales from the concerts as real sales so i excluded them from the numbers above.
                                                            All the CDs sold with tickets BEFORE the album was released commercially (to the stores) were not counted by Soundscan and I also don't consider them true sales.
                                                            Obviously i hope someone can find more recent Soundscan numbers for "Musicology" in order for the above information to be more acurate.

                                                            I still hope one day to have a positive reply from you facedown36
                                                            My replies are positive . Let's take the example of this one:
                                                            1) Musicology has sold 934.000 copies in stores
                                                            2) Musicology has sold 1.500.000 copies during the us 2004 tour
                                                            3) The NPg MC SAles are not taken in account, neither the music club sales , and we may suppose that that the sales approaching to 300.000.

                                                            So, my positive conclusion, according to your numbers, is that Musicology sold more than 2.5 copies in the us alone!
                                                            I still think the same for MUSICOLOGY and PLANET EARTH.
                                                            People paid for the album, because they paid for the tour or for the newspapers.

                                                            When you know that today, much more than in 2004, most of the sales are only digital, and cost three times less than a physical copies ( sometimes for singles, it is given for free, as for Mariah Carey) I think the 3.2 millions copies of PLANET EARTH should be taken in account in the global sales.

                                                            It seems very logical to me :
                                                            1) In Uk Planet EARth was sold at 2.5£
                                                            2) In usa Lotus Flower, MPLS SOUND and ELIXIR have been sold at 4$ each. Exactly The same price as Planet earth in UK
                                                            3) People buy 180 000 copies of ELIXIR but absolutely don't care about it. They only care about Prince, but this is taken in account too.
                                                            4) PRInce sold 35 000 more physical copies than Urban Keith last week, nevertheless he's only #2.
                                                            5) Billboard take in account I TUNES SALES BUT NOT npg CLUB SALES, not musicology club sales, and now not lotus flower site?
                                                            Is this so logical than that?

                                                            I do not buy Prince music anymore since two years because I think he is gone too far with his fans, youtube, etc. Moreover Planet earth and Lotus Flower are bad.
                                                            BUT QUALITY OF MUSIC AND SALES ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS and I must stay objective.
                                                            To me there is something very unfair not to take in account PLANET EARTh and MUSICOLOGY sales.
                                                            The market music is evolving and what is shocking us today with Prince' manner of selling discs will probably be usual in the future...

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                                                            • #60
                                                              Does anyone have weekly reports of catalog Prince songs at US radio? I know there's the billion-airplay Mediabase thread, but it would be interesting to see how his hits do on a single week.

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