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  • #61
    You should be careful with such links. In France, if you read articles, you will see that Johnny Hallyday sold over 100 million albums. Everybody believes it, they say it on every TV show etc... Then we started to get real informations, and the fact is that he sold at most 35 million.

    In this link about Diaz we read :

    En su carrera artística, Diomedes Díaz ha vendido más de 13 millones de copias, cifra que le ha servido para convertirlo en el artista más vendedor en toda la historia discográfica del país. 29 álbumes inéditos y varias compilaciones de éxitos le ha otorgado, 22 discos de Oro, 24 Discos de Platino, 1 Disco Cuádruplo Platino, 3 Discos Quíntuplo Platino, 1 Disco Séxtuplo Platino y 1 Disco de Diamante por ventas superiores al millón de copias

    First, Diamond is 500k not 1 million (well, Diamond award doesn't even really exist in Colombia). Then adding all certifications counting the highest possible level of awards :
    22 Oro - 22x25 = 550k
    24 Plat - 24x50 = 1200k
    1 4xP = 200k
    3 5xP = 750k
    1 6xP = 300k
    1 D = 500k

    Total : 550 + 1200 + 200 + 750 + 300 + 500 = 3500k. How has Diaz sold 13 million ? Certifications are up to only 3.5 million.

    Those articles are almost never correct, especially when the information is impossible to verify in the concerned country.
    25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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    • #62
      Originally posted by MJDangerous
      You should be careful with such links. In France, if you read articles, you will see that Johnny Hallyday sold over 100 million albums. Everybody believes it, they say it on every TV show etc... Then we started to get real informations, and the fact is that he sold at most 35 million.

      In this link about Diaz we read :

      En su carrera artística, Diomedes Díaz ha vendido más de 13 millones de copias, cifra que le ha servido para convertirlo en el artista más vendedor en toda la historia discográfica del país. 29 álbumes inéditos y varias compilaciones de éxitos le ha otorgado, 22 discos de Oro, 24 Discos de Platino, 1 Disco Cuádruplo Platino, 3 Discos Quíntuplo Platino, 1 Disco Séxtuplo Platino y 1 Disco de Diamante por ventas superiores al millón de copias

      First, Diamond is 500k not 1 million (well, Diamond award doesn't even really exist in Colombia). Then adding all certifications counting the highest possible level of awards :
      22 Oro - 22x25 = 550k
      24 Plat - 24x50 = 1200k
      1 4xP = 200k
      3 5xP = 750k
      1 6xP = 300k
      1 D = 500k

      Total : 550 + 1200 + 200 + 750 + 300 + 500 = 3500k. How has Diaz sold 13 million ? Certifications are up to only 3.5 million.

      Those articles are almost never correct, especially when the information is impossible to verify in the concerned country.
      Before 2000: Gold=30.000, Platinum=60.000, and much of his works if from the 80's and 90's. In the 00's he hasn't done that much because he has been sick for the last 7 years. Diamond acording to you doesn't exist, but it really does. It hasn't represent an amount of copies, Syco gives it in some point for not giving more certifications when the album sales still are healthy over the years
      I Bet You Can't Do It Like Me, Like Me ...

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      • #63
        Those certifications for local acts
        I Bet You Can't Do It Like Me, Like Me ...

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        • #64
          Cesar please make those links smaller...
          ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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          • #65
            Originally posted by hello
            Cesar please make those links smaller...
            Don't be mean. I don't know how
            I Bet You Can't Do It Like Me, Like Me ...

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            • #66
              Originally posted by cesarc1989
              Originally posted by hello
              Cesar please make those links smaller...
              Don't be mean. I don't know how
              lol, Im not being mean..just giving you a suggestion
              like this

              http://www.laboratoriocultural.org/revista/academia/
              recursos/investigacion/vallenatomexico.htmhttp://
              www.estereofonica.com/article.php?sid=397
              ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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              • #67
                Originally posted by hello
                Originally posted by cesarc1989
                Originally posted by hello
                Cesar please make those links smaller...
                Don't be mean. I don't know how
                lol, Im not being mean..just giving you a suggestion
                like this

                http://www.laboratoriocultural.org/revista/academia/
                recursos/investigacion/vallenatomexico.htmhttp://
                www.estereofonica.com/article.php?sid=397
                I won't post link again :-?
                I Bet You Can't Do It Like Me, Like Me ...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by cesarc1989
                  Originally posted by hello
                  Originally posted by cesarc1989
                  Originally posted by hello
                  Cesar please make those links smaller...
                  Don't be mean. I don't know how
                  lol, Im not being mean..just giving you a suggestion
                  like this

                  http://www.laboratoriocultural.org/revista/academia/
                  recursos/investigacion/vallenatomexico.htmhttp://
                  www.estereofonica.com/article.php?sid=397
                  I won't post link again :-?
                  lol, is ok, nevermind
                  ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by cesarc1989
                    Before 2000: Gold=30.000, Platinum=60.000, and much of his works if from the 80's and 90's. In the 00's he hasn't done that much because he has been sick for the last 7 years. Diamond acording to you doesn't exist, but it really does. It hasn't represent an amount of copies, Syco gives it in some point for not giving more certifications when the album sales still are healthy over the years
                    It doesn't change much of the total, still around 4m. Even if it sold almost the next certification each time, that's 8 million at most.
                    Also, the sources quoted look more like a fan site that a definitive accurate site.

                    When we check real infos from labels, awards are always pretty low for Columbia. Worldwide blockbusters are barely Gold, Platinum when they are lucky. Even Spanish blockbusters have sales relatively week in Colombia ('Mas' only 100k, Miguel Bose or Luis Miguel sales are truly unimpressive as well). The Gold and Platinum status is always reached on more time than in Mexico for example, and albums aren't 9xPlatinum or more in Mexico.
                    25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by cesarc1989
                      Originally posted by hello
                      Originally posted by cesarc1989
                      Originally posted by hello
                      Cesar please make those links smaller...
                      Don't be mean. I don't know how
                      lol, Im not being mean..just giving you a suggestion
                      like this

                      http://www.laboratoriocultural.org/revista/academia/
                      recursos/investigacion/vallenatomexico.htmhttp://
                      www.estereofonica.com/article.php?sid=397
                      I won't post link again :-?
                      lol, is ok, nevermind
                      ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                      • #71
                        Let's keep on topic though
                        ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                        • #72
                          There used to be a plaque for Laundry Service where she had platinum and gold awards for many countries in just that on plaque..does anybody have it (The pixture I mean)
                          ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by MJDangerous
                            Originally posted by cesarc1989
                            Before 2000: Gold=30.000, Platinum=60.000, and much of his works if from the 80's and 90's. In the 00's he hasn't done that much because he has been sick for the last 7 years. Diamond acording to you doesn't exist, but it really does. It hasn't represent an amount of copies, Syco gives it in some point for not giving more certifications when the album sales still are healthy over the years
                            It doesn't change much of the total, still around 4m. Even if it sold almost the next certification each time, that's 8 million at most.
                            Also, the sources quoted look more like a fan site that a definitive accurate site.

                            When we check real infos from labels, awards are always pretty low for Columbia. Worldwide blockbusters are barely Gold, Platinum when they are lucky. Even Spanish blockbusters have sales relatively week in Colombia ('Mas' only 100k, Miguel Bose or Luis Miguel sales are truly unimpressive as well). The Gold and Platinum status is always reached on more time than in Mexico for example, and albums aren't 9xPlatinum or more in Mexico.

                            you are mixing up though...FO went 11x Platinum and in other countries, there are lots of 10x Platinum + albums
                            ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by MJDangerous
                              You should be careful with such links. In France, if you read articles, you will see that Johnny Hallyday sold over 100 million albums. Everybody believes it, they say it on every TV show etc... Then we started to get real informations, and the fact is that he sold at most 35 million.

                              In this link about Diaz we read :

                              En su carrera artística, Diomedes Díaz ha vendido más de 13 millones de copias, cifra que le ha servido para convertirlo en el artista más vendedor en toda la historia discográfica del país. 29 álbumes inéditos y varias compilaciones de éxitos le ha otorgado, 22 discos de Oro, 24 Discos de Platino, 1 Disco Cuádruplo Platino, 3 Discos Quíntuplo Platino, 1 Disco Séxtuplo Platino y 1 Disco de Diamante por ventas superiores al millón de copias

                              First, Diamond is 500k not 1 million (well, Diamond award doesn't even really exist in Colombia). Then adding all certifications counting the highest possible level of awards :
                              22 Oro - 22x25 = 550k
                              24 Plat - 24x50 = 1200k
                              1 4xP = 200k
                              3 5xP = 750k
                              1 6xP = 300k
                              1 D = 500k

                              Total : 550 + 1200 + 200 + 750 + 300 + 500 = 3500k. How has Diaz sold 13 million ? Certifications are up to only 3.5 million.

                              Those articles are almost never correct, especially when the information is impossible to verify in the concerned country.
                              Do you have Thriller's Platinum and Gold awards???
                              ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Jim20
                                I have these, correct me if some are wrong:

                                Laundry Service:
                                4x Platinum – Colombia (80.000)
                                2x Platinum – Turkey (200.000)
                                2x Platinum – Netherlands (140.000)
                                2x Platinum – Thailand (40.000)
                                2x Platinum – Ecuador (30.000)
                                1x Platinum – Taiwan (20.000)
                                1x Platinum – Singapore (20.000)

                                Fijación Oral Vol.1:
                                1x Platinum – Netherlands (70.000)
                                1x Gold – Portugal (10.000)
                                1x Gold – Greece (10.000)

                                Oral Fixation Vol.2:
                                1x Platinum – Italy (80.000)
                                1x Platinum – Colombia (20.000)
                                1x Platinum – Russia (20.000)


                                Donde Estan Los Ladrones:
                                7x Platinum – Argentina (420.000)
                                4x Platinum – Venezuela (80.000)
                                2x Platinum – Mexico (500.000)
                                [/b]
                                these are not right..look at the index

                                sorry for all this spaming...this page looks so big, I want to go to the next one lol.
                                ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                                • #76
                                  Shakira's Top Album Markets.


                                  Code:
                                  1. United States	          10,500,000
                                  2. Mexico	                  3,075,000
                                  3. Brazil	                  2,350,500
                                  4. Germany	                 1,880,000
                                  5. Spain	                   1,314,100
                                  6. UK	                      1,233,343
                                  7. France	                  1,230,000
                                  8. Argentina	               1,080,000
                                  9. Colombia	                1,015,000
                                  10. Canada 	                  700,000
                                  11. Netherlands	              565,000
                                  12. Italy	                    530,000
                                  13. Australia	                462,500
                                  14. Venezuela	                420,000
                                  15. Japan	                    330,000
                                  16. Turkey	                   300,000
                                  17. Central America	          290,000
                                  18. Switzerland	              280,000
                                  19. Portugal	                 260,000
                                  20. Chile	                    250,000
                                  21. India	                    240,000
                                  22. Norway	                   150,000
                                  22. Austria	                  140,000
                                  23. Sweden	                   140,000
                                  24. Indonesia                   125,000 
                                  24. Finland	                  106,000
                                  25. Belgium	                  100,000
                                  26. Egypt	                    100,000
                                  27. Denmark 	                 100,000
                                  28. Greece	                    80,000
                                  29. Romania	                   80,000
                                  30. Russia	                    80,000
                                  31. Hungary                      60,000
                                  32. Poland                       50,000
                                  33. New Zealand	               45,000
                                  34. Thailand                     40,000
                                  35. Taiwan                       30,000
                                  36. Ireland                      30,000
                                  37. Hong Kong	                 25,000
                                  38. South Africa	              25,000
                                  39. Ecuador	                   20,000
                                  40. Philipines                   15,000
                                  41. Malaysia                     15,000
                                  42. Singapore                    15,000
                                  43. Uruguay                      15,000
                                  44. Peru                         15,000 
                                  45. Czech Republic	             5,000
                                  Total	                     30,061,443






                                  * Based on Certifications . Only countries counted with proximate sales are UK, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, France, Spain, and Germany.
                                  ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                                  • #77
                                    Hello, hello! LOL
                                    I understand you're mainly interested in sales the certifications grant, but it's well known PD sold over 1 million copies in Brazil since 1996 and estabilished, to date, her best mark in Brazilian market.
                                    There're no certifications, because ABPD (Brazilian RIAA) didn't exist that time.
                                    last.fm/user/flyer_

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                                    • #78
                                      Originally posted by Flyer_
                                      Hello, hello! LOL
                                      I understand you're mainly interested in sales the certifications grant, but it's well known PD sold over 1 million copies in Brazil since 1996 and estabilished, to date, her best mark in Brazilian market.
                                      There're no certifications, because ABPD (Brazilian RIAA) didn't exist that time.
                                      I know, I was doubtful on that one too. I have read plenty of articles (reliable) stating it sold over 1,000,000 copies...I got dragged by Vega magazine, they wrote that Shakira sold over 750,000 with PD and over 600,000 wih DELL...Thanks...I have to update it now :x
                                      ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                                      • #79
                                        Originally posted by hello
                                        Shakira's Top Album Markets.


                                        Code:
                                        1. United States	          10,500,000
                                        2. Mexico	                  3,075,000
                                        3. Brazil	                  2,550,500
                                        4. Germany	                 1,880,000
                                        5. Spain	                   1,274,200
                                        6. UK	                      1,233,343
                                        7. France	                  1,230,000
                                        8. Argentina	               1,170,000
                                        9. Colombia	                1,015,000
                                        10. Canada 	                  700,000
                                        11. Netherlands	              565,000
                                        12. Italy	                    530,000
                                        13. Australia	                462,500
                                        14. Venezuela	                420,000
                                        15. Japan	                    330,000
                                        16. Turkey	                   300,000
                                        17. Central America	          290,000
                                        18. Switzerland	              280,000
                                        19. Chile	                    250,000
                                        20. Portugal	                 250,000
                                        21. India	                    240,000
                                        22. Austria	                  140,000
                                        23. Sweden	                   140,000
                                        24. Finland	                  106,000
                                        25. Belgium	                  100,000
                                        26. Egypt	                    100,000
                                        27. Norway	                    90,000
                                        28. Greece	                    80,000
                                        29. Romania	                   80,000
                                        30. Russia	                    80,000
                                        31. Denmark 	                  60,000
                                        32. Hungary                      60,000
                                        33. Poland                       50,000
                                        34. Indonesia                    50,000                      
                                        35. New Zealand	               45,000
                                        36. Thailand                     40,000
                                        37. Taiwan                       30,000
                                        38. Hong Kong	                 25,000
                                        39. South Africa	              25,000
                                        40. Ecuador	                   20,000
                                        41. Philipines                   15,000
                                        42. Malaysia                     15,000
                                        43. Singapore                    15,000
                                        44. Uruguay                      15,000
                                        45. Peru                         15,000 
                                        46. Czech Republic	             5,000
                                        Total	                     29,946,543
                                        * Based on Certifications . Only countries counted with proximate sales are UK, Japan, Italy, Netherlands, France, Spain, and Germany.
                                        Great work. I wish we had info like that for everybody.

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                                        • #80
                                          Originally posted by Flyer_
                                          Hello, hello! LOL
                                          I understand you're mainly interested in sales the certifications grant, but it's well known PD sold over 1 million copies in Brazil since 1996 and estabilished, to date, her best mark in Brazilian market.
                                          There're no certifications, because ABPD (Brazilian RIAA) didn't exist that time.
                                          ABPD exists since 1990. Pies Descalzos was certified Platinum (250k) in 1997.
                                          25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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                                          • #81
                                            Originally posted by seattleboy

                                            Great work. I wish we had info like that for everybody.
                                            Thanks...I want to do one for Pink, Nelly Furtado, Madonna, Michael Jackson and so many other but only for her it's time consuming... :x
                                            ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                                            • #82
                                              Originally posted by MJDangerous
                                              ABPD exists since 1990. Pies Descalzos was certified Platinum (250k) in 1997.
                                              You know databases are not 100% accurate...some of them only count less than 50% of an album total sales...I bet if it was you working on them they would be updated day by day
                                              ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                                              • #83
                                                According Sony Bmg Brazil, Pies Descalzos more than 800,000 copies

                                                http://www.sonybmg.com.br/Artista.aspx?codigo=85270

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                                                • #84
                                                  UK
                                                  Whenever Wherever: 606,000 (Platinum )
                                                  http://fatherandy2.proboards35.com/inde ... read=32698

                                                  Denmark
                                                  Laundry Service: 80,000
                                                  http://www.sonybmg.dk/view.php?template ... st_view=78

                                                  Norway
                                                  Laundry Service: 110,000
                                                  http://www.an.no/kultur/cd/article1846950.ece

                                                  Portugal
                                                  Laundry Service: 170,000
                                                  http://radiocomercial.clix.pt/quem_cant ... px?id=5788

                                                  Finland
                                                  Fijacion Oral Vol. 1: 10,000

                                                  Spain
                                                  Fijacion Oral Vol. 1: 250,000 (3x Platinum)
                                                  MTV Unplugged (Dvd): 10,000 (Gold)
                                                  http://www.elpais.com/articulo/cultura/ ... cul_9/Tes/
                                                  Germany
                                                  Whenever Wherever: 770,000 (only 3 months)
                                                  http://www.musuma.de/info/shakira

                                                  Indonesia
                                                  Laundry Service: 125,000 (5x Gold)
                                                  http://www.sonybmg.co.id/albumdet.php?id=394

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                                                  • #85
                                                    Originally posted by hello
                                                    Originally posted by MJDangerous
                                                    ABPD exists since 1990. Pies Descalzos was certified Platinum (250k) in 1997.
                                                    You know databases are not 100% accurate...some of them only count less than 50% of an album total sales...I bet if it was you working on them they would be updated day by day
                                                    I was just correcting Flyer who said that ABPD wasn't existing back then. Databases ARE accurate - they simply report certifications, which are accurate as well. The problem is the lack of updates of them. The industry hasn't money anymore to certify all their albums on all countries.

                                                    Finaly we have an official link stating a figure for PD in Brazil - 800k. I will go with it. Thanks Cool.
                                                    25 June 2009, the day the Music died

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                                                    • #86
                                                      Originally posted by MJDangerous
                                                      Originally posted by hello
                                                      Originally posted by MJDangerous
                                                      ABPD exists since 1990. Pies Descalzos was certified Platinum (250k) in 1997.
                                                      You know databases are not 100% accurate...some of them only count less than 50% of an album total sales...I bet if it was you working on them they would be updated day by day
                                                      I was just correcting Flyer who said that ABPD wasn't existing back then. Databases ARE accurate - they simply report certifications, which are accurate as well. The problem is the lack of updates of them. The industry hasn't money anymore to certify all their albums on all countries.

                                                      Finaly we have an official link stating a figure for PD in Brazil - 800k. I will go with it. Thanks Cool.
                                                      Sorry, MJD is correct. My mistake. ABPD was created in 1958 and the certications began late in 1990. Thank you MJD. Certainly the sales of PD is a mystery. Certainly, the sales of PD are a mystery. I said 1 million, because I've read it recently. It might be wrong, anyways. A total amount of 800.000 copies sold looks more reasonable in this situation, knowing we have a source [which I didn’t know].
                                                      last.fm/user/flyer_

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                                                      • #87
                                                        Any new news about selling DVD Oral Fixation Tour ???

                                                        I know selling in this country :

                                                        USA - Platinum (100.000)
                                                        Spain - 2xPlatinum (50.000)
                                                        Mexico - Platinum (100.000)

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                                                        • #88
                                                          Well done, hello!
                                                          Prisoner Of Rock'n'Roll

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                                                          • #89
                                                            OMG cool, thank you sooooo much...these links help a whole lot

                                                            @ ktos, without a link, I can't put USA sales of oral fixations on the list..it sucks, but Im just being real. (ok, I just found the link..)

                                                            @ borderwolf, Thank you...I appreciate this from you mate
                                                            ~Gaga~~~Xtina~~~P!nk~~~Dido~~~Shakira~~~Beyonce~~~Gwen Stefani~~

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                                                            • #90
                                                              In Mexico Donde Estan Los Ladrones more than 500,000 mil copies and Pies Descalzos 400,000 until 08/99

                                                              possibly DELL: 800K. PD: 450K-500K.

                                                              http://www.terra.com.mx/articulo.aspx?articuloId=17516

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