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  • #26
    Cher's biggest selling single, Believe - the sales breakdown:

    USA: 2,500,000+
    Canada: 10,000 (est.)

    Australia: 235,000 (est.)
    New Zealand: 10,000

    UK: 1,675,000 (#1 female single of all time)
    Germany: 1,250,000
    France: 800,000
    Spain: 80,000
    Italy: 70,000
    Netherlands: 60,000
    Sweden: 60,000
    Norway: 30,000
    Austria: 30,000
    Switzerland: 30,000

    Rest of Europe, Asia, South Africa & South America: 750,000-1,000,000

    = 7,590,000-7,840,000

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    • #27
      Originally posted by jayrock
      Yes it did. In the Us alone it was certified 2x Platinum, and in the UK was certified 5x Platinum.

      Cher Singles sales
      All I really Want to do- 2,000,000
      Where do you go?- 550,000
      Bang, Bang- 5,000,000
      Alfie- 500,000
      Sunny- 1,200,000
      I feel something in the air- 100,000
      Behind the door- 100,000
      Mama- 150,000
      Hey Joe- 100,000
      You better sit down kids- 1,500,000
      Click song- 150,000
      For what it's worth- 50,000
      Gypsies, tramps & thieves- 3,100,000
      the way of love- 1,300,000
      Living in a house divided- 500,000
      Don't hide your love- 300,000
      Am I blue?- 250,000
      half-breed- 2,100,000
      dark lady- 2,900,000
      Train of thought- 500,000
      I saw a man and he danced with his wife- 300,000
      Pirate- 150,000
      Take me home- 1,500,000
      Wasn't it good- 300,000
      It's too late to love me now- 250,000
      Hell on wheels- 250,000
      Dead Ringer- 600,000
      I found someone- 2,000,000
      Skin deep- 200,000
      We all sleep alone- 1,500,000
      After all- 1,500,000
      If i could turn back time- 4,000,000
      Just like Jesse James- 1,500,000
      Heart of stone- 1,000,000
      You wouldn't know love- 700,000
      the shoop, shopp song- 6,100,000
      baby i'm yours- 100,000
      dead ringer (re-release)- 100,000
      Love and understanding- 2,000,000
      save up all your tears- 1,000,000
      love hurts- 500,000
      Could've been you- 300,000
      oh no not my baby- 500,000
      many rivers to cross- 200,000
      whenever you're near- 100,000
      Love can build a bridge- 800,000
      walking in Memphis- 1,300,000
      One by one- 800,000
      paradise is here- 300,000
      not enough love in the world- 200,000
      the sun ain't gonna shine anymore- 300,000
      Belive- 12,000,000
      strong enough- 4,200,000
      all or nothing- 1,250,000
      Dov'e L'amore- 1,350,000
      music's no good without you- 2,000,000
      alive again- 500,000
      song for the lonely- 1,500,000
      a different kind of love song- 1,100,000
      when the money's gone- 50,000
      Fakest post of the year
      I don't mean to be rude but we are in a chart analysis forum, please don't post fake infos/claims

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      • #28
        Originally posted by Nichu94
        Fakest post of the year
        I don't mean to be rude but we are in a chart analysis forum, please don't post fake infos/claims
        Crazy4DaveFranco....ehm, i mean Brad

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        • #29
          Originally posted by jayrock
          Believe- 20,000,000 (Billoard said in 2000 the album sold 10,000,000)
          If Billboard said this, the album now should be at least at 30,000,000, or maybe 40,000,000...
          "Despair, regret, and tenderness is what I feel for you"

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          • #30
            The BPI has changed over the past decade. When Belive was released Platinum was for sales of 300k (300k x 5= 1.5 million)

            My previous posts are not false, and I find that some of your comments are rude, and uncalled for. I have been in touch with a lot of Cher biographers and people who were apart of her career. I'm currently writing a biography of Cher, and I thought since people were asking for this information I was willing enough to post it, and help answer some questions.

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            • #31
              Your posts are false. That's why you're getting 'rude' responses. Would you like to break down any of your figures?

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              • #32
                Originally posted by jayrock
                The BPI has changed over the past decade. When Belive was released Platinum was for sales of 300k (300k x 5= 1.5 million)
                Believe was certified 2xPlatinum (+1,2 million) in UK on Friday 8th January 1999.
                http://www.bpi.co.uk/certifiedawards/search.aspx

                My previous posts are not false, and I find that some of your comments are rude, and uncalled for. I have been in touch with a lot of Cher biographers and people who were apart of her career. I'm currently writing a biography of Cher, and I thought since people were asking for this information I was willing enough to post it, and help answer some questions.
                This is a serious chart analysis forum, we don't take fake claims as truths.

                Believe has not sold 12 million and some other sales you posted are also completely false.
                The Shoop shoop song +6 million? ARe you joking? It peaked at 33 in US and it's Gold in UK. If it had sold that much it would have been the best selling single of 1990-1991 easily.

                The claim of 20 million for Believe album is even more ridiculous...

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                • #33
                  the sales numbers are include sales since the release and charting of the single to current downloads so they appear to be extremely high.

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                  • #34
                    Also, I'm sorry, but I made a mistake. Belive is certified 3x Platinum in the UK, not 5.

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                    • #35
                      Once Again: Belive is 2xPlatinum in UK
                      Search here: http://www.bpi.co.uk/certifiedawards/search.aspx

                      Originally posted by jayrock
                      the sales numbers are include sales since the release and charting of the single to current downloads so they appear to be extremely high.
                      No they are clearly fake...
                      Even adding digital downloads.

                      Where did you find them? I'd like to know your source...
                      Or did you estimate them?

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                      • #36
                        I'm sorry but my sources cannot be found on the internet. I have colleagues throughout the music business, and they work for Neilsen, Billboard, and a few major record labels including Reprise, Warner Brothers, and Geffen Records. You also need to remember charts were not based on sales prior to 1992 (in America at least); therefore there are no exact numbers of the total sales for albums and singles. But the site where I did retrieve the information about Believe being certified 3x platinum is the UKtop75 site.

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                        • #37
                          I'm sorry but my sources cannot be found on the internet. I have colleagues throughout the music business, and they work for Neilsen, Billboard, and a few major record labels including Reprise, Warner Brothers, and Geffen Records. You also need to remember charts were not based on sales prior to 1992 (in America at least); therefore there are no exact numbers of the total sales for albums and singles. But the site where I did retrieve the information about Believe being certified 3x platinum is the UKtop75 site.

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                          • #38
                            Belive certifications (bracket numbers are shipments so far, not sales)

                            Argentina- Double Platinum (80,000)
                            Australia- Double Platinum (140,000)
                            Austria- Double Platinum (40,000)
                            Belgium- Platinum (30,000)
                            Brazil- Platinum (60,000)
                            Canada- Septuple Platinum (700,000)
                            Chile- Gold (7,500)
                            Colombia- Gold (5,000)
                            Czech Republic- Gold (3,000)
                            Denmark- Quintuple Platinum (150,000)
                            Europe- Quintuple Platinum (5 million)
                            Finland- Gold (10,000)
                            France- Double Platinum (600,000)
                            Germany- Double Platinum (400,000)
                            Greece- Gold (7,500)
                            Hong Kong- Gold (7,500)
                            Hungary- Platinum (6,000)
                            Indonesia- Platinum (40,000)
                            Ireland- Triple Platinum (45,000)
                            Israel- Gold (20,000)
                            Italy- Triple Platinum (210,000)
                            Japan- Gold (100,000)
                            Korea- Platinum (15,000)
                            Malaysia- Gold (10,000)
                            Mexico- Platinum (105,000)
                            Netherlands- Gold (30,000)
                            New Zealand- Double Platinum (30,000)
                            Norway- Platinum (30,000)
                            Poland- Platinum (20,000)
                            Portugal- Double Platinum (40,000)
                            Singapore- Gold (6,000)
                            South Africa- Double Platinum (100,000)
                            Spain- Quadruple Platinum (400,000)
                            Sweden- Triple Platinum (180,000)
                            Switzerland- Double Platinum (60,000)
                            Taiwan- Gold (7,000)
                            Thailand- Gold (8,000)
                            Turkey- Triple Platinum (30,000)
                            United Kingdom- Double Platinum (600,000)
                            United States- Quadruple Platinum (4 million)

                            And according to Rolling Stones Cher's Believe sold 20 million
                            http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/i ... -comeback/

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                            • #39
                              ^ That is a mistake for sure... If Believe has sold around 10 million in Eu plus US, where do the other 10 million come from?

                              About your numbers, if you're not gonna show any source/WW breakdown, they remains only strange numbers without any explanation

                              And also, many times labels releases fake/inflated sales figures, it's well known fact...

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                              • #40
                                the EU sales number only includes some countries, not all of them. Plus Asia, South America, Central America, Canada, Africa, and Australia, and New Zealand make up the remaining 10 million or so album sales.

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                                • #41
                                  Sorry but that's really impossible
                                  12 million seems correct

                                  Anyway would you please post sales by country for all her singles?
                                  Since you have totals, you should have the brakdowns for each one...

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                                  • #42
                                    The sales for her singles are shipments/the number of produced copies of each single that were ordered by the record company. Sales/shipment break down per country are not available, especially to the public. However, I do know a select few.

                                    US Gold (500,000)
                                    All I really want to do
                                    Bang, Bang (1966)
                                    Alfie
                                    You better sit down kids
                                    G. T. T.
                                    The way of love
                                    Living in a house divided
                                    Half-Breed
                                    Dark Lady
                                    Train of thought
                                    Take me home
                                    I found someone
                                    We all sleep alone
                                    after all
                                    If I could turn back time
                                    Just like Jesse James
                                    Heart of Stone
                                    the shoop, shoop song
                                    Save up all your tears
                                    One by one
                                    Strong enough
                                    The music's no good without you
                                    Song for the lonely
                                    Different kind of love song

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                                    • #43
                                      Wow DELUSION

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                                      • #44
                                        I'm just curious, can you find me some Madonna sales using your "source"?

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                                        • #45
                                          Originally posted by 04wayne
                                          Wow DELUSION
                                          what do you mean wayne?

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                                          • #46
                                            Originally posted by Nichu94
                                            Originally posted by 04wayne
                                            Wow DELUSION
                                            what do you mean wayne?
                                            I have read countless stories and have even been sent an email or two about people who claim to have these 'sources' that they cannot verify. My last discussion about this occurred on a fan forum for Celine Dion - a fan who ironically spouted the same things as the above poster, jayrock, except his/her case was for Celine Dion being the best-selling female artist of all-time, which anybody with a brain cell knows isn't true.

                                            jayrock - I don't necessarily take offense to your numbers, I take offense to your inability to listen to reason and realism. What Nichu says above (about it being impossible to shift 10m albums across the territories/countries you mentioned) is completely and utterly true. You said:

                                            Plus Asia, South America, Central America, Canada, Africa, and Australia, and New Zealand make up the remaining 10 million or so album sales.
                                            But you've listed the majority of Asia's dominions in your list of sales. You've also listed the major South American places that Cher hit it big in that list. Added to which you listed Australia and New Zealand in that list. So basically, your above quote is nonsense.

                                            Cher has sold fewer than 50m albums across the globe - not a measly amount. Believe has shipped no more than 12m copies worldwide. This is estimation, yes. But my estimation is a damn more site reliable and realistic than yours is.

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                                            • #47
                                              Actually the certifications are out dated and are from 1999/2000. In the past 10 years or so sales would have increased in these territories. Also, there are many European, Asian, South American, and Middle Eastern countries that would have taken the Believe album very well that are NOT listed, mostly because these places don't have a BPI or RIAA or CRIA. Sources like Warner Brothers, Rolling Stone Magazine, and Billboard are more reliable than someone who tries to disprove what they claim. I'm standing behind my numbers since my sources are offical sources, and have been found correct by my Editor and publisher.

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                                              • #48
                                                Originally posted by jayrock
                                                Actually the certifications are out dated and are from 1999/2000.
                                                In the past 10 years or so sales would have increased in these territories.
                                                Certifications are based on shipments, so since the album isn't a huge catalog seller (like almost all pop albums that sells due to a big hit), they may be not that wrong

                                                Also, there are many European, Asian, South American, and Middle Eastern countries that would have taken the Believe album very well that are NOT listed, mostly because these places don't have a BPI or RIAA or CRIA.
                                                In those territories albums sell an irrelevant total of copies...

                                                Sources like Warner Brothers, Rolling Stone Magazine, and Billboard are more reliable than someone who tries to disprove what they claim.
                                                Unfortunatly often "official sources" gives really random and inaccurate sales infos. The biggest exemple is Michael Jackson's album "Thriller". The Guinnes World record claims it has sold 109 million copies, but the truth is very different: Thriller has sold around 60-65 million copies Worldwide.

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                                                • #49
                                                  Originally posted by jayrock
                                                  Also, there are many European, Asian, South American, and Middle Eastern countries that would have taken the Believe album very well that are NOT listed, mostly because these places don't have a BPI or RIAA or CRIA.
                                                  Wanna go to IFPI site to see middle east awards?
                                                  Platinum for 6k, only.

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                                                  • #50
                                                    For one, Guinnes World records is a reliable source. For example, they said that Cher's Farewell tour grossed more than $437 million, but they took into account merchandise, and ticket sales from all 325 shows.

                                                    Also, shipment amounts eligible for certifications change every few years. For example, a Platinum album in Canada is now 80,000 compared to 100,000 in 1999

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