Christina Aguilera :: Charts & Sales History

[likeidogoldlink]

Yes Glitter received its platinum certification for shipments of 1 million in the US, that's how it works for every artist.

I mean Bionic only has 332k pure sales but its Gold, thanks to shipments and SPS (it obviously didn't get 168k units from streaming alone)

???
Bionic is gold because - Album-equivalent unit - read about it
Glitter was certified one month after it was released. And 20 years after its release, it has sold 700k (?) pure sales copies. I even doubt that with the SPS it has reached 1m units.

[britneylinda]

Well why talk about worldwide sales in a discussion about US numbers?

Also There is no such thing as a worldwide certification so saying Femme Fatale is elegible for 2 * platinum cos it sold 2.4 million worldwide doesnt even make any sense.

Was I talking to you? The OP understood, and I said about WW 2.4M+ sales and 2x platinum eligible in US now if it doesn't make sense to you it's not my problem as I wasn't even talking to you. Hope now this makes sense to you :
2x Plat eligible or very close based on streaming + sales
2.4M pure sales WW.

[myworld]

???
Bionic is gold because - Album-equivalent unit - read about it
Glitter was certified one month after it was released. And 20 years after its release, it has sold 700k (?) pure sales copies. I even doubt that with the SPS it has reached 1m units.

You need to read too clearly, 1 million copies of Glitter were shipped out, the Platinum certif is based on shipments.

Glitter was only made available on streaming in 2020 so it's streams are extremely low and irrelevant to any chart/certif in all honesty.

[likeidogoldlink]

You need to read too clearly, 1 million copies of Glitter were shipped out, the Platinum certif is based on shipments.

Glitter was only made available on streaming in 2020 so it's streams are extremely low and irrelevant to any chart/certif in all honesty.

And you don't see what I wrote? That it's not fair. The album did not sell as many copies, yet it was certified platinum. No shade for Mariah, I think "thinking ahead" is just plain stupid and unfair. So what if shipments were sent and the copies of this album did not sell out anyway?

Compare the soundtracks:
Burlesque (779k pure sales - 2019) vs Glitter (666k - 2018)
Streaming: Burlesque: 370m vs Glitter: less than 10m

Burlesque was doomed to fail at the time of release and Glitter was not. Ironically

[MrLeonix]

Bitter? I am not the one who creates a fake account on Ukmix. It's just that these certificates aren't fair.

Why would they be unfair? “Glitter” shipped 1 million and was certified according to RIAA rules of shipments.

And “Femme Fatale” is actually elegible to 2x Platinum so it’s basically an undercertified album these days.

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If Xtina’s debut album isn’t certified Diamond is because it neither shipped or sold 10 million. Numbers are out and it’s under 10M and years to go for Diamond.

[InFamous]

Was I talking to you? The OP understood, and I said about WW 2.4M+ sales and 2x platinum eligible in US now if it doesn't make sense to you it's not my problem as I wasn't even talking to you. Hope now this makes sense to you :
2x Plat eligible or very close based on streaming + sales
2.4M pure sales WW.

Femme Fatale isnt 2 times platinum elegible in the US.

[nympho]

Ok. We've had enough off topic today.

Bringing other artists here for no reason (let alone with really bad examples) seems clearly baiting.

Stay on topic, please. Last warning.

[likeidogoldlink]

Why would they be unfair? “Glitter” shipped 1 million and was certified according to RIAA rules of shipments.

And “Femme Fatale” is actually elegible to 2x Platinum so it’s basically an undercertified album these days.

——

If Xtina’s debut album isn’t certified Diamond is because it neither shipped or sold 10 million. Numbers are out and it’s under 10M and years to go for Diamond and shipments were not there either.

Suppose artist X, who is very popular, has released an album and 2m copies of his album have been shipped to the stores. Only 600k copies were sold. The album is certified 2x platinum. Is this fair?

[britneylinda]

Femme Fatale isnt 2 times platinum elegible in the US.

Okay.
Do read Mr. Leonix above comment for more clarity. You need to be updated rather than saying anything

[MrLeonix]

Suppose artist X, who is very popular, has released an album and 2m copies of his album have been shipped to the stores. Only 600k copies were sold. The album is certified 2x platinum. Is this fair?

That’s how RIAA works

[likeidogoldlink]

That’s how RIAA works

I do not deny the success of these ladies, but write that it is unfair.
CA - 9.7m SPS - no diamond certificate
Glitter - 750k? SPS (almost non-existent streams, 571k pure sales of Rainbow single) - platinum certified album

Strange and incomprehensible to me.

[InFamous]

Edit - did not see mod note

[InFamous]

Suppose artist X, who is very popular, has released an album and 2m copies of his album have been shipped to the stores. Only 600k copies were sold. The album is certified 2x platinum. Is this fair?

As far as I am aware, record shops have a grace period in which they can return over shipped albums, but once that passes the albums cannot be returned and are counted. Thats why so many of those overshipped albums end up in bargain bins and three for ten dollar offers in record shop corners.

I agree with you that the RIAA system is flawed but they have always counted sales as Sales from record company to store, while Billboard and Soundscan count sales to actual consumers/ customers.

[britneylinda]

Not a reliable source.

Not interested on dragging this anymore! We are the ones who work on her charts and sales, so it's not my job to make an outsider believe. Go read the forum for several pages, you will find estimations as well. Now this is Christina's topic, so don't mess this up.

[pedrolabre]

Glitter - 700k pure sales (Platinum | October 16, 2001)
Femme Fatale - 750k pure sales? (Platinum | April 29, 2011)

Pls

Femme Fatale is eligible 2x platinum thanks to streams and digital sales tho... things that Christina debut would never be close to diamond without

[pedrolabre]

Yes Glitter received its platinum certification for shipments of 1 million in the US, that's how it works for every artist.

I mean Bionic only has 332k pure sales but its Gold, thanks to shipments and SPS (it obviously didn't get 168k units from streaming alone)

Sales Plus Streams includes Equivalent Digital Sales... Bionic sold for sure over 1 million track sales in the US, the 168,000 is most likely to have most part coming from digital sales

[likeidogoldlink]

As far as I am aware, record shops have a grace period in which they can return over shipped albums, but once that passes the albums cannot be returned and are counted. Thats why so many of those overshipped albums end up in bargain bins and three for ten dollar offers in record shop corners.

I agree with you that the RIAA system is flawed but they have always counted sales as Sales from record company to store, while Billboard and Soundscan count sales to actual consumers/ customers.

100 % agree.

Femme Fatale is eligible 2x platinum thanks to streams and digital sales tho... things that Christina debut would never be close to diamond without

I have the impression that some people have a reading problem.

FF was certified in 2011. Did the album-equivalent unit exist then?

[Instinct]

Why would they be unfair? “Glitter” shipped 1 million and was certified according to RIAA rules of shipments.

And “Femme Fatale” is actually elegible to 2x Platinum so it’s basically an undercertified album these days.

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If Xtina’s debut album isn’t certified Diamond is because it neither shipped or sold 10 million. Numbers are out and it’s under 10M and years to go for Diamond.

Exactly. At this rate it'll take almost a decade for Xtina's debut to go Diamond so I don't get how it isn't fair that the RIAA isn't certifying it 9 years in advance.

[pedrolabre]

100 % agree.



I have the impression that some people have a reading problem.

FF was certified in 2011. Did the album-equivalent unit exist then?

i get what u said, the album is overshipped, but this has nothing to do with the fact that Christina's debut is not diamond

Debuts are rarely overshipped

and i dont know from where you took that her debut sold over 8 million copies within a year

Christina Aguilera sold 3,662,905 during 1999

and did not made the top 10 best selling album from US in 2000, which the 10th best selling album sold less than 3.8M copies

sure, it was certified 8x platinum "16 months" after its release, but theses are shippments numbers for sure, im certain that the album sold during 2001-2003 and that must have pushed its shippements, but for diamond? no

8x Multi-Platinum | December 14, 2000
7x Multi-Platinum | August 22, 2000
6x Multi-Platinum | March 3, 2000
5x Multi-Platinum | January 5, 2000
4x Multi-Platinum | December 13, 1999
3x Multi-Platinum | November 8, 1999
2x Multi-Platinum | September 24, 1999
Platinum | September 24, 1999
Gold | September 24, 1999

[likeidogoldlink]

i get what u said, the album is overshipped, but this has nothing to do with the fact that Christina's debut is not diamond

Debuts are rarely overshipped

and i dont know from where you took that her debut sold over 8 million copies within a year

Christina Aguilera sold 3,662,905 during 1999

and did not made the top 10 best selling album from US in 2000, which the 10th best selling album sold less than 3.8M copies

sure, it was certified 8x platinum "16 months" after its release, but theses are shippments numbers for sure, im certain that the album sold during 2001-2003 and that must have pushed its shippements, but for diamond? no

8x Multi-Platinum | December 14, 2000
7x Multi-Platinum | August 22, 2000
6x Multi-Platinum | March 3, 2000
5x Multi-Platinum | January 5, 2000
4x Multi-Platinum | December 13, 1999
3x Multi-Platinum | November 8, 1999
2x Multi-Platinum | September 24, 1999
Platinum | September 24, 1999
Gold | September 24, 1999

CA was the 8th best-selling album in the US in 2000.

[pedrolabre]

CA was the 8th best-selling album in the US in 2000.

Chart related maybe, since billboard year-end chart starts its track on november 1999

but for 2000 year sales according to soundscan it did not sold enough to be among the 10 best selling albums

TOP TEN SELLING ALBUMS OF 2000
Title / Artist Units Sold Title / Artist Units Sold
1. No Strings Attached / ‘N Sync 9,936,104
2. Marshall Mathers LP / Eminem 7,921,107
3. Oops!…I Did It Again / Britney Spears 7,893,544
4. Human Clay / Creed 6,587,834
5. Supernatural / Santana 5,857,824
6. Beatles 1 / Beatles 5,068,300
7. Country Grammar / Nelly 5,067,529
8. Black & Blue / Backstreet Boys 4,289,865
9. Dr. Dre 2001 / Dr. Dre 3,992,311
10. Writing’s On The Wall / Destiny’s Child 3,802,165

https://web.archive.org/web/20130602...d-mp3-com.html

[likeidogoldlink]

Chart related maybe, since billboard year-end chart starts its track on november 1999

but for 2000 year sales according to soundscan it did not sold enough to be among the 10 best selling albums



https://web.archive.org/web/20130602...d-mp3-com.html

Billboard vs random website.


Btw, Country Grammar, debut album, similar sales (8,4m vs 9,2m, sales of BMG Music Club counted), similar streaming (150m streams more than CA on Spotify), singles with lower sales than CA singles. Explain this example to me.

[Instinct]

You keep conveniently ignoring the fact that CA was never available at Columbia House, which was a bigger club than Sony BMG. It's as simple as that. And that's not a random website but Nielsen's 2000 year end report. Billboard goes by Nielsen.

The denial is too much.

[nympho]

Time to give some infractions.

[nympho]

Topic is now open again.

Pedrolabre and likeidogoldlink received infractions for ignoring my instructions of staying on topic and stop bringing other artists. likeidogoldlink has been banned for a week after reaching 100 infraction points.

For the last time, please move on, all of you.