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  • Does anyone know why Billboard counts "Diamonds" towards her R&B #1 hits but does not count it towards her Hot 100 hits?

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    • ^Maybe she was credited on the R&B chart? I'll look at my 1987 Billboards.

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      • Originally posted by lovedeluxe View Post
        Does anyone know why Billboard counts "Diamonds" towards her R&B #1 hits but does not count it towards her Hot 100 hits?
        I checked. Janet was credited on the R&B charts! Not on the Hot 100...

        Look on page 29 here:

        https://www.americanradiohistory.com...1987-05-30.pdf

        The 100-position R&B chart is missing.

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        • Thanks so much! I see, so weird it's not credited on the Hot 100.

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          • Spotify Update 13/03/2020

            ** That's The Way Love Goes reached 60M

            60M

            That's The Way Love Goes 60,354,647

            50M
            Together Again (Album Version) 55,392,058

            30M
            Got 'Til It's Gone 38,779,357
            Scream 35,999,984
            All For You (Album Version) 33,729,903

            20M
            Made For Now 23,560,747
            Any Time, Any Place 22,191,009

            10M
            I Get Lonely 19,240,098
            Again 15,401,792
            Nasty 14,523,218
            Escapade 14,083,554
            BurnItUp! 13,737,216
            No Sleeep (feat. J.Cole) 12,647,352
            All For You (Single Version) 12,568,165
            If 11,457,348
            When I Think Of You 10,904,473

            5M
            Rhythm Nation 9,875,490
            Call On Me (feat. Nelly) 8,978,791
            Miss You Much 8,402,776
            Let's Wait Awhile 8,201,118
            No Sleeep (Solo Version) 7,818,869
            What's It Gonna Be (feat. Busta Rhymes) 7,366,367
            Alright (Remix) 6,548,935
            The Pleasure Principle 6,154,290
            Someone To Call My 6,012,919
            Luv Me, Luv Me (feat. Shaggy) 5,956,495
            Feel It Boy (feat. Beenie Man) 5,771,080
            Go Deep 5,631,049
            What Have You Done For Me Lately 5,464,546
            All Nite (Don't Stop) 5,323,875
            Love Will Never Do (Without You) 5,116,397

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            • It's so funny that "Got 'Til It's Gone" was called a flop back in 1997 because it under-performed at Top 40 (though it did do well at R&B peaking at #3 on R&B airplay) yet it became one of her most streamed songs over most of her biggest hits.

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              • Yeah, but Got Til It's Gone WAS a flop. So much so that her record company cancelled the physical release to maintain her consecutive top 10's. Mariah's record label did the same thing.

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                • I don't agree. There was still a chance for "Got 'Til It's Gone" to go top 10 on the Hot 100. #3 at R&B radio is nothing to call a flop.


                  Erykah Badu's "On and On" peaked at #56 on Hot 100 Airplay yet still reached #12 on the Hot 100. 24 positions lowers than GTIG.

                  Monica's "Why I Love You So Much" peaked at #46 on Hot 100 Airplay yet peaked at #9 on the Hot 100.

                  Aaliyah's "The One I Gave My Heart To" peaked at #41 on Hot 100 Airplay yet peaked at #8 on the Hot 100

                  Aaliyah's "If I Only Knew" peaked at #43 on Hot 100 Airplay yet peaked at #11 on Hot 100.

                  Method Man / Mary J Blige's "I'll Be There For You/You're All I Need To Get By" peaked at #33 on Hot 100 Airplay yet #3 on the Hot 100.

                  R Kelly's "Down Low (Nobody Has to Know)" peaked at #32 on Hot 100 Airplay yet peaked at #4 on Hot 100.

                  Dru Hill's "Never Make a Promise" peaked at #61 on Hot 100 Airplay yet #7 on Hot 100.

                  Dru Hill's "In My Bed" peaked at #36 on Hot 100 Airplay yet #4 on The Hot 100.


                  There are SOOOO many R&B records from that time that peaked below the Top 30 of Hot 100 Airplay and still reached Top 5 AND Top 10 on the Hot 100. We'll never know at the end of the day but looking at songs that did worse than GTIG on R&B Airplay and Hot 100 Airplay it seems likely that it still may have gone top ten.

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                  • Found this on atrl. Kinda cool

                    Solo top 3 hits 5 year after debut
                    Janet 16 (9 #1)
                    Madonna 12 (6 #1)
                    Mariah 9 (8 #1)
                    Britney, Taylor 6

                    Solo top 3 hits 10 years after debut
                    Janet 9 (4 #1)
                    Madonna 8 (3 #1)
                    Mariah 6 (4 #1)
                    Britney 5 (3 #1)

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                    • Got til its gone wasn't a huge flop it went top 10/20 on most official singles charts.
                      Top ten - Sweden, Australia, Netherlands, UK, New Zealand, Denmark
                      Top Twenty - Switzerland, Germany, France, Norway, Finland, Canada, Italy

                      Airplay
                      #2 Sweden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Italy, France
                      #3 Netherlands

                      And if it was released as a physical single in the US it probably would of debuted top 10 considering all of her singles released in America before and after did

                      Debuts
                      1995 Scream #5
                      1995 Runaway #3
                      1998 Together again #9
                      1998 I get lonely #3

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                      • I agree. It would have probably been another Top 10 for her.

                        Anyway, I think being her 4th most streamed song on Spotify means something...

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                        • Yup. The week I Get Lonely entered at #3 it was #25 on Hot 100 Airplay. Only 11 positions higher than GTIG.

                          Virgin probably expected an out of the box #1 after "janet." was so massive. Where even most of her album tracks and b-sides were even charting on Hot 100 Airplay or R&B Airplay (And on And On, New Agenda, Where Are You Now, Throb, 70's Love Groove).

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                          • Originally posted by Bojan View Post
                            It's also fair to say that 90 of 298 Janet's tracks on Spotify were just added a week ago. If we exclude them Janet would on average have 2.6M streams per song. Albums "Discipline" and "Number Ones" aren't available, as well as one of her biggest hits, "Runaway." "Diamonds" is not on her page so most people can't even find it.
                            I wonder what's the reason behind all that, Runaway seems to be there now, but not Twenty Foreplay, nor Number Ones or Discipline albums...

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                            • There were a lot issues with "The Best Things In Life Are Free" too.

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                              • According to Hits Magazine, Rhythm Nation 1814 sold 124,300 copies in its first week at #1 in the US:

                                https://www.americanradiohistory.com...1989-10-09.pdf

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                                • Spotify Update 27/03/2020

                                  ** Rhythm Nation reached 10M

                                  60M

                                  That's The Way Love Goes 60,904,035

                                  50M
                                  Together Again (Album Version) 56,098,440

                                  30M
                                  Got 'Til It's Gone 39,213,780
                                  Scream 36,333,137
                                  All For You (Album Version) 34,049,201

                                  20M
                                  Made For Now 23,711,412
                                  Any Time, Any Place 22,395,822

                                  10M
                                  I Get Lonely 19,437,657
                                  Again 15,666,818
                                  Nasty 14,662,285
                                  Escapade 14,222,659
                                  BurnItUp! 13,809,837
                                  All For You (Single Version) 12,770,163
                                  No Sleeep (feat. J.Cole) 12,699,347
                                  If 11,544,824
                                  When I Think Of You 11,012,975
                                  Rhythm Nation 10,002,508

                                  5M
                                  Call On Me (feat. Nelly) 9,098,334
                                  Miss You Much 8,489,143
                                  Let's Wait Awhile 8,291,190
                                  No Sleeep (Solo Version) 7,840,865
                                  What's It Gonna Be (feat. Busta Rhymes) 7,439,670
                                  Alright (Remix) 6,563,150
                                  The Pleasure Principle 6,242,377
                                  Someone To Call My 6,063,920
                                  Luv Me, Luv Me (feat. Shaggy) 5,999,402
                                  Feel It Boy (feat. Beenie Man) 5,832,404
                                  Go Deep 5,673,780
                                  What Have You Done For Me Lately 5,517,158
                                  All Nite (Don't Stop) 5,362,536
                                  Love Will Never Do (Without You) 5,170,009

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