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  • Originally posted by Startistichart View Post

    I though UK certifications were automatic since 2004 ?
    they became automatic since 2013, and they only count sales since february 1994 (and streams since its creation obviously)

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    • Originally posted by Nerd Score View Post
      How many records Janet Jackson sold in Japan?
      Roughly 2 million albums. No idea about singles though. I don't think she has a certified single in Japan but I'll check. Mariah, Madonna, Celine and Whitney all outsold her in Japan.
      "Crime is increasing
      Trigger happy policing..."
      -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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      • Originally posted by Nerd Score View Post

        It does lol
        You know it doesn't.
        "Crime is increasing
        Trigger happy policing..."
        -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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        • Originally posted by JeremySpears View Post
          Janet has surpassed 1 million subscribers on YouTube.
          80s/90s divas who now have 1 million or more YouTube subscribers
          BRITNEY SPEARS - 9.55 million
          MARIAH CAREY - 8.62 million
          WHITNEY HOUSTON - 7.1 million
          CELINE DION - 6.32 million
          MADONNA - 5.65 million
          CHRISTINA AGUILERA - 5.16 million
          CYNDI LAUPER - 2.5 million
          MARY J BLIGE - 2.43 million
          TONI BRAXTON - 2.08 million
          BONNIE TYLER - 1.73 million
          JANET JACKSON - 1 million
          "Crime is increasing
          Trigger happy policing..."
          -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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          • Originally posted by BadMan125 View Post

            80s/90s divas who now have 1 million or more YouTube subscribers
            BRITNEY SPEARS - 9.55 million
            MARIAH CAREY - 8.62 million
            WHITNEY HOUSTON - 7.1 million
            CELINE DION - 6.32 million
            MADONNA - 5.65 million
            CHRISTINA AGUILERA - 5.16 million
            CYNDI LAUPER - 2.5 million
            MARY J BLIGE - 2.43 million
            TONI BRAXTON - 2.08 million
            BONNIE TYLER - 1.73 million
            JANET JACKSON - 1 million
            Shakira - 35.6 million
            Jennifer Lopez - 15.4 million
            Thalia - 7.05 million
            Selena - 3.12 million
            Shania Twain - 2.61 million

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            • Originally posted by BadMan125 View Post

              You know it doesn't.
              I know it does

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              • Originally posted by Choley View Post

                Shakira - 35.6 million
                Jennifer Lopez - 15.4 million
                Thalia - 7.05 million
                Selena - 3.12 million
                Shania Twain - 2.61 million
                Thanks. I knew I was forgetting some other divas. Doggone, Thalia has THAT many?!
                "Crime is increasing
                Trigger happy policing..."
                -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                • Mariah took advantage of Record Store Day with the vinyl re-release of her "#1's" compilation, which led to the album going back to the Billboard 200. If Janet had cared since she had momentum earlier this year with her documentary, she would've done the same for probably one of her hits sets but she didn't. So many missed opportunities.
                  "Crime is increasing
                  Trigger happy policing..."
                  -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                  • We all should know by now Janet don't care about sales

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                    • Janet's most successful markets for each album excluding US (Control to Damita Jo)


                      Control - UK
                      • 725,000 copies sold
                      • 3 top 10 hits


                      Rhythm Nation - Japan
                      • More than 500,000 copies sold
                      • Best selling international female album of 1990
                      • Rhythm Nation Tour broke the record for the fastest sellout in the history of the Dome within 7 minutes


                      Janet. - UK
                      • 825,000 copies sold
                      • Debuted at #1 with over 31,000 copies sold
                      • Spent two weeks at the top
                      • 3 top 10 singles; one of them went #2


                      Design Of a Decade - UK
                      • 800,000 copies sold
                      • Debuted at #2 with over 54,000 copies sold


                      The Velvet Rope - France
                      • 600,000 copies sold according to her label
                      • Together Again was the 7th best selling single of 1998
                      • Together Again sold over 700,000 copies as of 1998 and arguably eligible for Diamond (750,000)


                      All For You - Japan
                      • Debuted with 120,100 copies sold
                      • 750,000 copies sold in total
                      • It was the best selling international pop album of 2001
                      • Doesn't Really Matter was the best selling international pop single in 2000 and eligible for Gold (100,000)
                      • All For You was the most successful international pop song of 2001


                      Damita,20 Y0 and Discipline - all Japan

                      *UK sales includes club sales
                      Last edited by Choley; Wed May 4, 2022, 22:12.

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                      • Originally posted by Choley View Post
                        Janet's most successful markets for each album excluding US (Control to Damita Jo)


                        Control - UK
                        • 725,000 copies sold
                        • 3 top 10 hits


                        Rhythm Nation - Japan
                        • More than 500,000 copies sold
                        • Best selling international female album of 1990
                        • Rhythm Nation Tour broke the record for the fastest sellout in the history of the Dome within 7 minutes


                        Janet. - UK
                        • 825,000 copies sold
                        • Debuted at #1 with over 31,000 copies sold
                        • Spent two weeks at the top
                        • 3 top 10 singles; one of them went #2


                        Design Of a Decade - UK
                        • 800,000 copies sold
                        • Debuted at #2 with over 54,000 copies sold


                        The Velvet Rope - France
                        • 600,000 copies sold according to her label
                        • Together Again was the 7th best selling single of 1998
                        • Together Again sold over 700,000 copies as of 1998 and arguably eligible for Diamond (750,000)


                        All For You - Japan
                        • Debuted with 120,100 copies sold
                        • 750,000 copies sold in total
                        • It was the best selling international pop album of 2001
                        • Doesn't Really Matter was the best selling international pop single in 2000 and eligible for Gold (100,000)
                        • All For You was the most successful international pop song of 2001


                        Damita,20 Y0 and Discipline - all Japan

                        *UK sales includes club sales
                        I think these are also contenders:

                        Control

                        The Netherlands
                        • 1x Platinum (100,000), likely eligible for 2x Platinum
                        • Charted 66 weeks on the album chart
                        • #20 album of 1986
                        • #42 album of 1987
                        • 4 consecutive Top 10 hits on the Single Top 100
                        • 6 consecutive Top 20 hits on the Dutch Top 40
                        • What Have You Done For Me Lately peaks at #1
                        • Diamonds becomes another smash hit in 1987 peaking in the Top 5

                        Rhythm Nation

                        Canada
                        • 1x Platinum (100,000), at least 4x Platinum
                        • #53 album of 1989
                        • #25 album of 1990
                        • 7 consecutive Top 10 hits plus an additional Top 15 hit (State of the World) on the official RPM Singles Chart
                        • Miss You Much peaks #1 in physical sales
                        • Miss You Much #2 / #16 YE (Gold)
                        • Escapade #1 / #10 YE
                        • Love Will Never Do #1 / #25 YE
                        • The week Love Will Never Do reached #1, it became the first song ever to reach #1 in Canada without having a physical release and RN was the longest charting album still on the chart (+68 weeks)

                        janet.

                        Canada
                        • 3x Platinum (300,000) way back in 1993, eligible 5x Platinum
                        • 2 weeks at #1
                        • #9 album of 1993
                        • 4 consecutive Top 10 hits on the official RPM Singles Chart
                        • That's The Way Love Goes #1 (6 weeks) / #3 YE
                        • If #3 / #25 YE
                        • Again #2 / #32 YE
                        • That's The Way Love Goes and If both go #1 on The Record's physical singles chart

                        Design of a Decade

                        Australia
                        • 4x Platinum (280,000), eligible 5x Platinum
                        • 3 weeks at #2
                        • 12 consecutive weeks in the Top 10
                        • #6 album of 1995
                        • Runaway #8 / #37 YE (Gold)

                        The Velvet Rope

                        Denmark
                        • 2x Platinum (100,000)
                        • 1 week at #1
                        • 3 consecutive months at the start of 1998 in the Top 10
                        • #40 album of 1997
                        • #9 album of 1998
                        • Got 'Til It's Gone and Together Again both peak in the Top 5 of the Danish Singles chart

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                        • How big the Damita Jo era was suppose to been that album was supposed to have surpass All For You.

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                          • Originally posted by Nerd Score View Post
                            How big the Damita Jo era was suppose to been that album was supposed to have surpass All For You.
                            How are you so sure? AFY was pretty poppy compared to DJ.
                            "Crime is increasing
                            Trigger happy policing..."
                            -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                            • All For You was the 37th best selling female album of the 2000's.That's pretty good if you ask me

                              Best selling female albums released in 00's

                              Here's the full list

                              Spoiler!



                              -from pure charts-
                              Last edited by Choley; Fri May 6, 2022, 20:42.

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                              • Originally posted by Choley View Post
                                All For You was the 37th best selling female album of the 2000's.That's pretty good if you ask me

                                Best selling female albums released in 00's

                                Here's the full list

                                Spoiler!



                                -from pure charts-
                                By the way, Mariah's Greatest Hits album is missed in that list, as it belong to the 5 million sales club albums of the 2000's.

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                                • Originally posted by BadMan125 View Post

                                  Roughly 2 million albums. No idea about singles though.
                                  Janet is between 3/3.5 million albums in Japan. Maybe more.

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                                  • Originally posted by BadMan125 View Post

                                    How are you so sure? AFY was pretty poppy compared to DJ.
                                    Damita Jo was suppose to have outsold All For You

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                                    • Originally posted by HouseTargaryen View Post
                                      Janet is between 3/3.5 million albums in Japan. Maybe more.
                                      Janet has easily sold 4 million albums in Japan.

                                      The issue is none of Janet's record labels have ever re-certified any of her albums in Japan after they finished charting meaning we have no idea how much they truly sold. Keep in mind Japan is the world's second biggest market and sales outside the Top 100 or 200 are not negligible. For some of her albums only the initial shipment was officially certified (ex. Design of a Decade and The Velvet Rope certified 1x Platinum their month of release but never again).

                                      We can only estimate her sales based off how well they did on the Oricon chart, guess catalogue sales (impossible to know without re-certification), and then multiply that amount by an estimated volume in which foreign pressings were imported (more guesswork, can be anywhere from 30% to over half of total sales for foreign artists).

                                      It's my impression that Janet's sales in Japan were a 60-40 split between domestic Japanese pressings and imported copies. Most underestimate her selling power in Japan since her labels never bothered to properly certify her albums.

                                      Even The Velvet Rope sold over 400,000 copies in Japan according to Toshiba EMI by January 1999 and it was her weakest selling album during her prime (147,340 Oricon sales). Clearly the album was still selling consistently after it left the chart and/or had a higher than average volume of imported copies.

                                      Then there's Design of a Decade which sold 260,990 Japanese copies while charting on the Oricon charts. Knowing how hugely successful greatest hits albums are in Japan, it must've been her best catalog seller but it was never re-certified and so we have no idea how well it did over time. Obviously it surpassed 400,000 but we have no idea if it reached 600,000 or beyond.

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                                      • Originally posted by Choley View Post
                                        Janet's most successful markets for each album excluding US (Control to Damita Jo)


                                        Control - UK
                                        • 725,000 copies sold
                                        • 3 top 10 hits


                                        Rhythm Nation - Japan
                                        • More than 500,000 copies sold
                                        • Best selling international female album of 1990
                                        • Rhythm Nation Tour broke the record for the fastest sellout in the history of the Dome within 7 minutes


                                        Janet. - UK
                                        • 825,000 copies sold
                                        • Debuted at #1 with over 31,000 copies sold
                                        • Spent two weeks at the top
                                        • 3 top 10 singles; one of them went #2


                                        Design Of a Decade - UK
                                        • 800,000 copies sold
                                        • Debuted at #2 with over 54,000 copies sold


                                        The Velvet Rope - France
                                        • 600,000 copies sold according to her label
                                        • Together Again was the 7th best selling single of 1998
                                        • Together Again sold over 700,000 copies as of 1998 and arguably eligible for Diamond (750,000)


                                        All For You - Japan
                                        • Debuted with 120,100 copies sold
                                        • 750,000 copies sold in total
                                        • It was the best selling international pop album of 2001
                                        • Doesn't Really Matter was the best selling international pop single in 2000 and eligible for Gold (100,000)
                                        • All For You was the most successful international pop song of 2001


                                        Damita,20 Y0 and Discipline - all Japan

                                        *UK sales includes club sales
                                        globalnet

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                                        • Got Til It's Gone hits 70 million on Spotify today.

                                          Did we get that wrong back in 1997? It's streamed more than some of her biggest hits and will be eligible for Gold between end of this year or early next year.

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                                          • One thing about Japan is they stick with Janet through thick and thin and love her to the end Korea to which why I don't understand she rarely go perform in Asia I was watching old performances of hers in Asia but she probably sold close to 10 million records in Japan I'm just assuming her sales are always ambiguous since 04 as we already know.

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                                            • Originally posted by Nerd Score View Post
                                              One thing about Japan is they stick with Janet through thick and thin and love her to the end Korea to which why I don't understand she rarely go perform in Asia I was watching old performances of hers in Asia but she probably sold close to 10 million records in Japan I'm just assuming her sales are always ambiguous since 04 as we already know.
                                              Only Mariah,Madonna and Celine sold at least 10 million records in Japan (international western females only)

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                                              • Originally posted by Choley View Post

                                                Only Mariah,Madonna and Celine sold at least 10 million records in Japan (international western females only)
                                                I think Whitney too outsold Janet in terms of total records in Japan. Album sales wise, I believe Whitney is around 6 million albums in Japan easily so she's above Janet as well. She also has one of the best-selling international hits in the history of Japan with IWALY whereas I don't think Janet has been able to accomplish that. I could be wrong but I don't think she has a million-selling single in Japan.
                                                "Crime is increasing
                                                Trigger happy policing..."
                                                -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                                                • Janet was quite successful in Japan. Rhythm Nation, Janet, and Design of a Decade all should be around 600k copies sold (+/-) in Japan which is AMAZING. She dropped a bit with The Velvet Rope, but then released her best seller which is All For You 750k-800k.

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                                                  • Originally posted by TwentyForeplay View Post

                                                    Janet has easily sold 4 million albums in Japan.

                                                    The issue is none of Janet's record labels have ever re-certified any of her albums in Japan after they finished charting meaning we have no idea how much they truly sold. Keep in mind Japan is the world's second biggest market and sales outside the Top 100 or 200 are not negligible. For some of her albums only the initial shipment was officially certified (ex. Design of a Decade and The Velvet Rope certified 1x Platinum their month of release but never again).

                                                    We can only estimate her sales based off how well they did on the Oricon chart, guess catalogue sales (impossible to know without re-certification), and then multiply that amount by an estimated volume in which foreign pressings were imported (more guesswork, can be anywhere from 30% to over half of total sales for foreign artists).

                                                    It's my impression that Janet's sales in Japan were a 60-40 split between domestic Japanese pressings and imported copies. Most underestimate her selling power in Japan since her labels never bothered to properly certify her albums.

                                                    Even The Velvet Rope sold over 400,000 copies in Japan according to Toshiba EMI by January 1999 and it was her weakest selling album during her prime (147,340 Oricon sales). Clearly the album was still selling consistently after it left the chart and/or had a higher than average volume of imported copies.

                                                    Then there's Design of a Decade which sold 260,990 Japanese copies while charting on the Oricon charts. Knowing how hugely successful greatest hits albums are in Japan, it must've been her best catalog seller but it was never re-certified and so we have no idea how well it did over time. Obviously it surpassed 400,000 but we have no idea if it reached 600,000 or beyond.
                                                    Agree. We often read that AFY sold about 750,000 copies in Japan but I have seen foreign releases with the same or even less Oricon sales certified for 1M by the RIAJ. Point is we will never know for sure but I agree that 4M in album sales is the floor for her.

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