Janet Jackson :: Charts & Sales History

[lovedeluxe]

Women with most platinum singles (digital): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIAA_certification

*at least 10 digital platinum certifications

#1. Taylor Swift
#2. Rihanna
#3. Beyonce
#4. Carrie Underwood
#5. Ariana Grande, Katy Perry, Cardi B
#6. Selena Gomez
#7. Lady Gaga
#8. Billie Eilish
#9. Halsey, Whitney Houston
#10. Mariah Carey
#11. Nicki Minaj, Demi Lovato
#12. Janet Jackson
#13. Miranda Lambert
#14. Camila Cabello
#15. Adele

[Nerd Score]

Control - All For You sales are usually fine but Damita Jo - Unbreakable is where it gets shaky I had no idea Damita Jo and Discipline was selling through BMG wonder why the 20 Y.O. album wasn't Damita Jo probably didn't do much for obvious reasons but Discipline would have if Island didn't mess up the album rollout.

[Nerd Score]

Doesn’t really matter and call on me seem to be doing well on YouTube and streaming. How close are they to being re certified?

Doesn't Really Matter is eligible for platinum and Call On Me should be eligible for gold possibly.

[lovedeluxe]

Control - All For You sales are usually fine but Damita Jo - Unbreakable is where it gets shaky I had no idea Damita Jo and Discipline was selling through BMG wonder why the 20 Y.O. album wasn't Damita Jo probably didn't do much for obvious reasons but Discipline would have if Island didn't mess up the album rollout.

Looks like BMG had "20 Y.O" as well. They featured it on the front page of the catalog for 2 months! Feb & March!

https://www.discogs.com/release/7827677-Janet-20-YO

Won't see any other certification for this album. Maybe just "Call on Me" going gold. lol

[Nerd Score]

Best-selling albums worldwide among Black Female artist:

#1 The Bodyguard 50M
#2 Music Box 35M
#3 Whitney Houston 30M
#4 Whitney 25M
#5 Daydream 25M
#6 Tracy Chapman 20M
#7 The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill 20M
#8 Never Say Never 20M
#9 Secrets 20M
#10 Janet 20M

[lovedeluxe]

Never Say Never by Brandy?

No way is that over 20 million.

[Choley]

^All of them inflated except Tracy

[InFamous]

^All of them inflated except Tracy

Yeah i mean Music Box is around 28 million max, being generous.

[red3269]

My guesses for her AUS certs (70k is Platinum)

Control - 2xP
Rhythm Nation - 3xP/4xP
Janet - 3xP
Design of a Decade - 6xP
The Velvet Rope - 3xP
All For You - P

What do you guys think?

Very likely. I think janet could also be 4x plat. It was #1 for 3 consecutive weeks when it debuted and went back to #1 when she toured the country in 1995

[Nerd Score]

1-5 and 10 I don't believe is inflated

[HouseTargaryen]

Janet, Design of a Decade, & All For You have all likely sold over 1 million copies in Asia (each).

[Choley]

In Europe 6 of her albums sold at least 1 million

• Control
• Rhythm Nation
• Janet
• Design Of A Decade
• The Velvet Rope
• All For You

^Janet,DOAD and TVR probably sold around 2.5 million each.

[musiclover3568]

European Sales For Janet

Country	Sales
United Kingdom	800,000
Germany	600,000
France	260,000
Netherlands	140,000
Italy	125,000
Sweden	50,000
Norway	25,000
Belgium	25,000
Switzerland	25,000

Based off these we're at over 2 million. I wonder how Janet did in Spain & Denmark, I haven't seen any sales information for either prior to the The Velvet Rope.

[Choley]

European Sales For Janet

Based off these we're at over 2 million. I wonder how Janet did in Spain & Denmark, I haven't seen any sales information for either prior to the The Velvet Rope.

Spain - 50k
Denmark - 25k
according to purecharts archives

[TwentyForeplay]

European Sales For Janet

Country	Sales
United Kingdom	800,000
Germany	600,000
France	260,000
Netherlands	140,000
Italy	125,000
Sweden	50,000
Norway	25,000
Belgium	25,000
Switzerland	25,000

Based off these we're at over 2 million. I wonder how Janet did in Spain & Denmark, I haven't seen any sales information for either prior to the The Velvet Rope.

If you look at the European Albums Chart in Music & Media, they list what nations an album charted in that week.

According to the chart:

Belgium - 18 weeks (minimum)
Denmark - 16 weeks (minimum)

In 1993, Music & Media combined the charts for Flanders and Wallonia to make one averaged chart to publish in their magazine. On this chart for the whole of Belgium, janet. spent 5 weeks in the Top 10:

10-7-6-8-9

The rest of the chart run is unknown. However, the album was certified Gold (25,000) in 1995 and the album was still entering Belgium Wallonia's album chart for two weeks that year. The album had strong initial sales and longivity. 25,000 total sales seems way too low.

In Denmark, janet. never entered the Top 10 so the peak is unknown/unpublished but it charted for at least 16 weeks. Design of a Decade peaked at #5 and also charted for 16 (known) weeks. The Velvet Rope was massive in Denmark (2x Platinum and possibly even 3x Platinum). It seems unlikely her previous album struggled to sell less than 1/4 what TVR did. Janet was clearly already an established star in Scandinavia.

If the certifications for "janet" were ever updated:
1x Gold Germany - 1x Platinum (500,000)
1x Gold Netherlands - 1x Platinum (100,000)
1x Gold Switzerland - 1x Platinum (50,000)
1x Gold Belgium - 1x Platinum (50,000)
NA Denmark - 1x Gold or Platinum (25-50,000)

Tons of missing Platinum certs. And that's just for Europe in nations we have data for!

[red3269]

Janet, Design of a Decade, & All For You have all likely sold over 1 million copies in Asia (each).

For sure, with DOAD perhaps being her biggest seller. I wonder if TVR also hit 1M? It shipped 400k in Japan. Together Again, Got Til Its Gone and Everytime were hits in Southeast Asia but we do not know how many were shipped in other asian markets

[HouseTargaryen]

For sure, with DOAD perhaps being her biggest seller. I wonder if TVR also hit 1M? It shipped 400k in Japan. Together Again, Got Til Its Gone and Everytime were hits in Southeast Asia but we do not know how many were shipped in other asian markets

I think Rhythm Nation may be closer to the 1 million mark in Asian but I'm not sure if either album did well outside of Japan.

[red3269]

I think Rhythm Nation may be closer to the 1 million mark in Asian but I'm not sure if either album did well outside of Japan.

Oh yes. You have a point. RN sold 500k in 1990 in Japan alone and she went back to Japan to close out the RN tour where she played stadiums. I think 3x plat in Japan is not out of the cards. It was also certified platinum in Taiwan in 1990.

[thebigham]

40 years ago this week:

"Janet Jackson" debuted at #148 on the Billboard 200:

https://worldradiohistory.com/Archiv...1982-11-20.pdf

page 69

[TwentyForeplay]

For sure, with DOAD perhaps being her biggest seller. I wonder if TVR also hit 1M? It shipped 400k in Japan. Together Again, Got Til Its Gone and Everytime were hits in Southeast Asia but we do not know how many were shipped in other asian markets

There was also the Asian financial crisis in 1997 which caused a big drop in music sales, especially for foreign releases. In Japan alone foreign shipments dropped 10% and it was probably even worse in other markets.

The Velvet Rope
2x Platinum Japan (400,000) (January 1999)
1x Platinum Philippines (40,000) (1998 Billboard AD)
1x Gold Taiwan (25,000) (1998 Billboard AD)
1x Silver Thailand (10,000) (1998 Billboard AD)

Sales were definitely much lower than her previous releases so I'm not sure if it sold 1M in Asia.

The album was also banned in Singapore which was a small market but a lot of western albums sold really well there in the mid-90s (Madonna, Mariah, Celine etc) hence why EMI tried hard to have the album approved for release. Design Of A Decade was a big hit in Singapore and likely has multi-Platinum sales. TVR had zero.

It's likely the album wasn't heavily shipped and possibly even banned in some other conservative regions as well. It was for example released in Malaysia but maybe suffered from lower sales due to the Singapore controversy and hence it wasn't certified there when Virgin published that advertisement with updated sales in 1998.

[musiclover3568]

First female to have a single debut at number 1:

Ireland: Kate Bush (Wuthering Heights - 1978)
Australia: Kylie Minogue (Got To Be Certain - 1988)
New Zealand: Janet Jackson (That's The Way Love Goes - 1993)
United Kingdom: Mariah Carey (Without You - 1994)
United States: Mariah Carey (Fantasy - 1995)

[red3269]

The Velvet Rope
2x Platinum Japan (400,000) (January 1999)
1x Platinum Philippines (40,000) (1998 Billboard AD)
1x Gold Taiwan (25,000) (1998 Billboard AD)
1x Silver Thailand (10,000) (1998 Billboard AD)

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I remember that ad. Would you know when in 1998 it was published by Billboard? I remember the ad had Japan at 1x platinum only (It was only due to the auction that we found out that it was 2x platinum in 1999) so perhaps the other certifications are outdated? TVR singles were in constant rotation in MTV SEA and Channel V for 2 years so I know it was quite popular.

[lovedeluxe]

There were so many plaques/certifications in her auction we had no idea about.

Imagine if her catalog got a proper worldwide audit.

[lovedeluxe]

Janet is the only female artist from the 80s to have 2 or more certified platinum singles from 3 albums or more.

1986: Control
Nasty
When I Think of You

1989: Rhythm Naation 1814
Miss You Much
Rhythm Nation
Escapade

1993: janet.
That's the Way Love Goes
If
Again
Any Time, Any Place

1997: The Velvet Rope
Together Again
I Get Lonely

[red3269]

Control (single) received a platinum plaque (again we know this because of her auction) but wasnt published on the RIAA website. So she has 3 from the Control era. Does anybody know why it is absent from the RIAA database? Pleasure Principle and Lets Wait A While, both gold, are alao absent on the RIAA database.