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  • The fact that only one album achieved a million streams this week is really bad, right?

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    • Originally posted by hun View Post
      The fact that only one album achieved a million streams this week is really bad, right?
      For an artist of her caliber, yes. There's a lot we can balme but ultimately she has made improvements.

      I think the majority of people streaming Janet are people who grew up with her. The rest are those who come across Together Again, All For You and That's The Way Love Goes on playlists or organically check out her catalog after artists reference and sample her music. Most of her hits have abysmal playlisting and she has has never had a song go viral (unlike Mariah and Madonna which have multiple times). She also hasn't put out a new album since 2015. There's literally nothing attracting a new audience.

      Even when she promotes herself it's places consumed by an audience who already know her music (ie. having her documentary on Lifetime). And a lot of the efforts feel quite late. She should've had a Dancing With The Stars night when the show had good ratings. Not in 2021. Her music videos should've been available on YouTube for a decade now. And more work still needs to be done.

      The Best Things In Life Are Free (Classic Club version) is one of her most shazamed songs and it's still unavailable on streaming in 2023. That song is arguably her biggest airplay hit in the UK and Australia (2 of the world's Top 10 biggest music markets).

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      • Chile, they taking too long.

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        • ......
          Last edited by gorgonzola; Sat January 21, 2023, 18:22.

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          • Every Time has been uploaded on YouTube.

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            • Originally posted by hun View Post
              The fact that only one album achieved a million streams this week is really bad, right?
              Yeah. I guess a lot of factors play into how. Her peers got quadruple the streams she gets.
              "Crime is increasing
              Trigger happy policing..."
              -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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              • Originally posted by musiclover3568 View Post
                Every Time has been uploaded on YouTube.
                The last video from The Velvet Rope to be uploaded.

                So far:
                1. Dream Street (no "Dream Street")
                2. Control (6 - ALL)
                3. Rhythm Nation 1814 (6, no "Alright")
                4. janet. (6 - ALL)
                5. Design of a Decade (just "Twenty Foreplay", no "Runaway" yet)
                6. The Velvet Rope (7 - ALL)
                7. All for You (3 - ALL)
                8. Damita Jo (2, no "All Nite Don't Stop" yet)
                9. 20 Y.O. (2 - ALL)
                10. Discipline (2 - ALL)
                11. Unbreakable (2 - ALL)
                So there are four videos yet to be uploaded on her page.
                "Crime is increasing
                Trigger happy policing..."
                -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                • ^ I don’t think she will ever upload that awful DS video so you can take that off the list
                  Britney Spears • Selena Gomez • Taylor Swift • Janet Jackson • • Michael Jackson • • Hilary Duff • Christina Aguilera •

                  "If I’m generally anything, I guess I’m generally miserable" - Marylin Monroe

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                  • SPOTIFY UPDATE - 13/01/23 ~ 19/01/23
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                    FOLLOWERS: 3,409,800 (+11,838)
                    MONTHLY LISTENERS: 5,415,778 (+145,739)
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                    TOTAL STREAMS (LEAD): 1,171,485,836 (+3,819,509 / %± LW: -0,81%)
                    TOTAL STREAMS (WITH FEATS): 1,290,437,476 (+4,194,315 / %± LW: -0,70%)

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                    # ALBUM WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS
                    01 (=) The Velvet Rope 1,075,806 -0.29% 297,321,026
                    02 (=) janet. 843,475 0.94% 245,696,743
                    03 (=) All For You 518,691 -2.68% 156,594,096
                    04 (=) Control 410,205 -4.28% 119,687,553
                    05 (=) Rhythm Nation 1814 407,920 -0.65% 126,197,633
                    06 (=) 20 Y.O. 143,184 -6.99% 35,627,745
                    07 (=) Discipline 103,531 5.24% 29,354,090
                    08 (=) Unbreakable 94,770 2.76% 71,164,415
                    09 (=) Damita Jo 79,478 3.69% 27,665,302
                    10 (=) Janet Jackson 5,808 -1.29% 1,822,291
                    11 (=) Dream Street 3,309 7.37% 914,363
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                    # SONG WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS
                    01 (=) Together Again² 461,190 1.05% 133,457,919
                    02 (+1) That's The Way Love Goes 370,684 3.16% 113,151,406
                    03 (-1) All For You³ 356,350 -3.58% 103,683,996
                    04 (=) Got 'Til It's Gone² 315,422 -2.22% 82,624,921
                    05 (=) Scream² 217,309 4.00% 69,618,809
                    06 (=) Again 142,034 -2.19% 38,300,213
                    07 (=) Any Time, Any Place 141,448 -0.89% 41,977,718
                    08 (=) Call On Me 111,555 -8.84% 22,657,314
                    09 (=) I Get Lonely² 109,507 1.18% 37,531,713
                    10 (+1) Escapade 102,562 0.57% 28,599,383
                    11 (-1) When I Think Of You 92,527 -11.34% 22,840,001
                    12 (=) Rhythm Nation4 87,339 -2.07% 24,989,757
                    13 (+1) Nasty 70,433 -0.94% 27,043,858
                    14 (-1) Let's Wait Awhile 67,385 -7.19% 17,711,312
                    15 (+2) Feedback² 63,018 4.99% 17,355,375
                    16 (=) If 59,755 -1.63% 20,389,944
                    17 (-2) Feel It Boy 58,850 -10.95% 14,958,501
                    18 (=) Miss You Much 55,059 -1.89% 17,154,972
                    19 (=) The Pleasure Principle² 54,960 3.17% 15,601,816
                    20 (=) What Have You Done For Me Lately² 50,556 -2.80% 17,219,114
                    21 (=) Doesn't Really Matter² 50,061 1.56% 16,005,218
                    22 (+1) Whoops Now² 49,039 5.97% 7,735,163
                    23 (-1) What's It Gonna Be?! (feat. Janet Jackson)² 48,452 2.55% 15,320,700
                    24 (=) Love Will Never Do (Without You)² 45,190 0.19% 14,135,440
                    25 (=) Someone To Call My Lover² 42,426 -0.81% 13,496,916
                    26 (=) Come Back To Me 39,598 1.48% 10,156,748
                    27 (+1) Funny How Time Flies (When You're Having Fun) 37,318 0.30% 8,190,007
                    28 (-1) Go Deep 36,645 -1.58% 10,572,044
                    29 (=) Made For Now 35,030 -1.72% 31,317,525
                    30 (=) Black Cat³ 34,885 0.85% 10,196,485
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                    PS.: Streams from compilation versions and radio/single edits are merged with the original song's totals.
                    PS2.: The small number at the song's titles means how many different versions are merged together for the final totals
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                    Some milestones:
                    * You - 3 million *Janet's 52nd most streamed song to date*
                    * Funky Big Band - 1 million *104th*

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                    • Originally posted by HouseTargaryen View Post
                      Chile, they taking too long.
                      Starting to think Team Janet was bluffing on updating the album certifications.
                      "Crime is increasing
                      Trigger happy policing..."
                      -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                      • Originally posted by BadMan125 View Post

                        Starting to think Team Janet was bluffing on updating the album certifications.
                        Probably lots of digging. Before Virgin,
                        she released 4 albums through A&M who used music clubs. I don't know how they look up sales but I'm sure it is a task. You'd think her Virgin-current albums would have been updated by now.

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                        • Originally posted by HouseTargaryen View Post

                          Probably lots of digging. Before Virgin,
                          she released 4 albums through A&M who used music clubs. I don't know how they look up sales but I'm sure it is a task. You'd think her Virgin-current albums would have been updated by now.
                          I don't think they'll include the music club sales but maybe I'm mistaking the RIAA for Soundscan. It's understandable that they have to go through the sales for the A&M albums but the Virgin ones should've BEEN updated, you're absolutely right.
                          "Crime is increasing
                          Trigger happy policing..."
                          -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                          • Originally posted by BadMan125 View Post

                            Starting to think Team Janet was bluffing on updating the album certifications.
                            Give them time.

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                            • I thought I would rank "The Big 5" in terms of Spotify listeners per continent


                              Africa (South Africa only):

                              Rank Current Listeners
                              1. Whitney Houston 98,100
                              2. Mariah Carey 86,300
                              3. Janet Jackson 51,900
                              4. Celine Dion 44,100
                              5. Madonna N/A


                              Asia:

                              Rank Current Listeners
                              1. Mariah Carey 2 million
                              2. Celine Dion 890,300
                              3. Whitney Houston 463,400
                              4. Madonna 223,600
                              5. Janet Jackson 126,700


                              Europe:

                              Rank Current Listeners
                              1. Mariah Carey 5.6 million
                              2. Madonna 4 million
                              2. Whitney Houston 4 million
                              3. Celine Dion 2.6 million
                              4. Janet Jackson 605,700


                              North America:

                              Rank Current Listeners
                              1. Mariah Carey 5.6 million
                              2. Whitney Houston 2.9 million
                              3. Madonna 2.6 million
                              4. Janet Jackson 1.2 million
                              5. Celine Dion 1 million


                              Oceania:

                              Rank Current Listeners
                              1. Mariah Carey 1.8 million
                              2. Whitney Houston 1.5 million
                              3. Madonna 970,700
                              4. Celine Dion 502,000
                              5. Janet Jackson 354,300


                              South America:

                              Rank Current Listeners
                              1. Madonna 1.5 million
                              2. Mariah Carey 1.1 million
                              3. Whitney Houston 883,800
                              4. Celine Dion 798,800
                              5. Janet Jackson 141,600


                              Very disappointing for Europe.

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                              • Wow, outside of Africa(where numbers are low overall but at least she's in third place), her lowest numbers are in Asia. She needs to schedule a tour there when she releases Black Diamond by 2030.

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                                • Originally posted by Mugen View Post
                                  Wow, outside of Africa(where numbers are low overall but at least she's in third place), her lowest numbers are in Asia. She needs to schedule a tour there when she releases Black Diamond by 2030.
                                  Most of Janet's videos on YouTube have only been unblocked/uploaded within the past few years, so it's understandable why numbers are so low (with the exception of South Africa). But I expected Europe to be on 800,000 at least.

                                  South Africa is the only country where Janet has sold more copies than Whitney, Celine, Mariah & Madonna.

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                                  • I swear the Janet vs. Madonna wars will never cease to exist all this back and forth of who outselling who and who made more money between them and who tour tickets quickly sell out is annoying for almost 40 years before some of us was even born their fans won't just end the rivalries if it's not Madonna vs Janet it's Madonna vs. Mariah I wish Madonna in particular mention Janet in a interview cause I feel that's the only way for each fan bases to stop harassing each other a little bit I just wish they collaborated actually.

                                    Anyways Janet has other versions of her music videos and remixes that need to be uploaded to her YouTube channel.

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                                    • Forgot my password and email so I had to create a new account (old name is Deep81). Anyway EVERYTIME has finally been released on YouTube

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                                      • Maybe I already mentioned it but these videos have yet to be uploaded on Janet's main YouTube page:
                                        • Dream Street (1984) - but knowing Janet, she probably rather not remember it existed since it came off her most unpopular album
                                        • Alright - original mini-movie version and the short version with the remixed rendition (1990) - this is just befuddling me!
                                        • The Best Things in Life are Free with Luther (1992) - though neither of the artists were on the video, it still needs to be uploaded.
                                        • Runaway (1995) - again, another thing that is befuddling me. I have no idea of Janet's YouTube history prior to Vevo but I imagine it was uploaded and then blocked everywhere so it was deleted and Team Janet just let it be gathered by the cobwebs.
                                        • I Get Lonely - the BLACKstreet remix edition (1998) - I mean if she could upload the Deeper Mix of Together Again, she could upload this but I'll wait. I'm not as fond of the remix but I know many folks who do.
                                        • All Nite (Don't Stop) (2004) - just the video from the fan poster (JJ World) is up but not on Janet's page.
                                        "Crime is increasing
                                        Trigger happy policing..."
                                        -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                                        • musiclover3568 You might wanna update the listeners list this Monday because Mariah's numbers are below Whitney's right now (24.89 million to Mariah's 23.3m).
                                          "Crime is increasing
                                          Trigger happy policing..."
                                          -- Marvin Gaye ("Inner City Blues")

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                                          • Every Time is doing really well on YouTube. Yesterday the video received over 31,991 views according to Kworb and was Janet's most streamed solo video.



                                            Let's hope Runaway or Alright are getting uploaded next!

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                                            • Spotify Listeners Update

                                              *Cities in bold are at a new peak

                                              Rank Current Peak
                                              1. London 180,443 180,443
                                              2. Sydney 111,071 117,659
                                              3. Los Angeles 91,201 127,103
                                              4. Melbourne 85,193 95,801
                                              5. Sao Paulo 71,337 71,862
                                              6. Chicago 63,545 92,114
                                              7. Brisbane 58,843 67,000
                                              8. Atlanta 57,602 74,947
                                              9. Amsterdam 56,533 70,693
                                              10. Paris 53,246 55,277
                                              11. New York City 51,790 73,745
                                              12. Toronto 49,627 59,908
                                              13. Dallas 48,121 67,528
                                              14. Auckland 47,083 47,335
                                              15. Brooklyn 45,255 68,792
                                              16. Queens 42,264 42,418
                                              17. Philadelphia 41,866 43,381
                                              18. Seattle 40,252 40,252
                                              19. Santiago 40,082 49,660
                                              20. Houston 39,787 53,325
                                              21. Phoenix 37,743 37,743
                                              22. Quezon City 37,520 45,541
                                              23. Mexico City 36,788 51,184
                                              24. Rotterdam 35,933 38,123
                                              25. Perth 34,396 38,684
                                              26. Washington 33,736 42,850
                                              27. Minneapolis 32,883 32,883
                                              28. Charlotte 32,830 41,244
                                              29. Berlin 32,185 34,670
                                              30. Johannesburg 31,651 31,651
                                              31. Denver 29,941 38,934
                                              32. Rio de Janeiro 29,873 31,289
                                              33. Brussels 28,922 28,922
                                              34. San Francisco 27,792 52,760
                                              35. Vancouver 27,257 28,946
                                              36. Montreal 27,205 35,280
                                              37. Dublin 27,105 34,266
                                              38. Birmingham 26,418 46,072
                                              39. Miami 26,324 33,198
                                              40. Las Vegas 26,195 33,119

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                                              • SPOTIFY UPDATE - 20/01 ~ 26/01/23
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                                                FOLLOWERS: 3,421,238 (+11,438)
                                                MONTHLY LISTENERS: 5,603,134 (+187,356)
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                                                TOTAL STREAMS (LEAD): 1,175,456,660 (+3,970,824 / %± LW: +3,96%)
                                                TOTAL STREAMS (WITH FEATS): 1,294,784,166 (+4,346,690 / %± LW: +3,63%)

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                                                # ALBUM WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS
                                                01 (=) The Velvet Rope 1,139,348 5.91% 298,460,374
                                                02 (=) janet. 913,105 8.26% 246,609,848
                                                03 (=) All For You 520,041 0.26% 157,114,137
                                                04 (=) Control 427,362 4.18% 120,114,915
                                                05 (=) Rhythm Nation 1814 413,372 1.34% 126,611,005
                                                06 (=) 20 Y.O. 138,832 -3.04% 35,766,577
                                                07 (=) Discipline 105,678 2.07% 29,459,768
                                                08 (=) Unbreakable 92,309 -2.60% 71,256,724
                                                09 (=) Damita Jo 76,409 -3.86% 27,741,711
                                                10 (=) Janet Jackson 5,579 -3.94% 1,827,870
                                                11 (=) Dream Street 2,695 -18.56% 917,058
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                                                # SONG WEEK STREAMS %± LW TOTAL STREAMS
                                                01 (=) Together Again² 518,715 12.47% 133,976,634
                                                02 (=) That's The Way Love Goes 405,467 9.38% 113,556,873
                                                03 (=) All For You³ 359,183 0.80% 104,043,179
                                                04 (=) Got 'Til It's Gone² 325,166 3.09% 82,950,087
                                                05 (=) Scream² 213,513 -1.75% 69,832,322
                                                06 (+1) Any Time, Any Place 161,627 14.27% 42,139,345
                                                07 (-1) Again 157,539 10.92% 38,457,752
                                                08 (+1) I Get Lonely² 109,479 -0.03% 37,641,192
                                                09 (+1) Escapade 108,268 5.56% 28,707,651
                                                10 (-2) Call On Me 107,355 -3.76% 22,764,669
                                                11 (=) When I Think Of You 101,864 10.09% 22,941,865
                                                12 (=) Rhythm Nation4 87,256 -0.10% 25,077,013
                                                13 (=) Nasty 73,755 4.72% 27,117,613
                                                14 (=) Let's Wait Awhile 70,463 4.57% 17,781,775
                                                15 (=) Feedback² 66,771 5.96% 17,422,146
                                                16 (+1) Feel It Boy 64,150 9.01% 15,022,651
                                                17 (-1) If 60,888 1.90% 20,450,832
                                                18 (=) Miss You Much 55,824 1.39% 17,210,796
                                                19 (=) The Pleasure Principle² 55,318 0.65% 15,657,134
                                                20 (=) What Have You Done For Me Lately² 52,101 3.06% 17,271,215
                                                21 (=) Doesn't Really Matter² 48,920 -2.28% 16,054,138
                                                22 (+1) What's It Gonna Be?! (feat. Janet Jackson)² 48,851 0.82% 15,369,551
                                                23 (-1) Whoops Now² 48,232 -1.65% 7,783,395
                                                24 (=) Love Will Never Do (Without You)² 45,289 0.22% 14,180,729
                                                25 (=) Someone To Call My Lover² 42,066 -0.85% 13,538,982
                                                26 (=) Come Back To Me 39,391 -0.52% 10,196,139
                                                27 (=) Funny How Time Flies (When You're Having Fun) 38,316 2.67% 8,228,323
                                                28 (=) Go Deep 37,172 1.44% 10,609,216
                                                29 (=) Made For Now 34,662 -1.05% 31,352,187
                                                30 (=) Black Cat³ 34,588 -0.85% 10,231,073
                                                Spoiler!

                                                PS.: Streams from compilation versions and radio/single edits are merged with the original song's totals.
                                                PS2.: The small number at the song's titles means how many different versions are merged together for the final totals.

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                                                Some milestones:
                                                * Feel It Boy - 15 million *Janet's 25th most streamed song to date*
                                                Last edited by UnapologeticKenny; Sat January 28, 2023, 15:58.

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                                                • Great to see a boost in streams for Together Again!

                                                  Also interesting to see That's The Way Love Goes gaining more streams on both Spotify and YouTube than All For You for the past week.

                                                  Latest Kworb update has Every Time as Janet's top music video!

                                                  1. Every Time - 32,301
                                                  2. Scream - 31,738
                                                  3. Call On Me - 24,683
                                                  4. Together Again - 23,971
                                                  5. All For You - 16,517
                                                  6. That's The Way Love Goes - 15,279
                                                  7. The Pleasure Principle - 8,733
                                                  8. Doesn't Really Matter - 7,713
                                                  9. Rhythm Nation - 7,683
                                                  10. Escapade - 7,445
                                                  11. Let's Wait Awhile - 7,236
                                                  12. Come Back To Me - 6,490
                                                  13. Love Will Never Do - 6,389
                                                  14. I Get Lonely - 5,800
                                                  15. If - 5,465

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                                                  • Wow between just 4 albums in Janet almost sold 50 million records before the age 25 Janet was here to stay and 40+ years later she is one of the top best selling female artist of all time!

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