Janet Jackson :: Charts & Sales History

[LostAvenger]

[BadMan125]

I have a feeling you may be right. An example is a was reported by twitter showing that Beyonce's IASF album selling over 8 million units in US but only certified 6xP. Celine's Falling Into You was only updated to 12xP when I thought she was in the running for 13xp-14xp.

Right. We always have to be careful with predictions. Like for years, I thought Whitney's debut was in the run for 15 million units but its recent certification at 14x platinum just confirms that you just don't know how units are measured. And besides, I'm starting to think Janet's albums, except for maybe Discipline, are eligible for any new certification soon despite some optimism.

[thebigham]

^^That Twitter page has no credibility!

[BadMan125]

Maybe cause streaming is a younger format & people who would remember nasty from the time are older?

Most of Janet's audience skew much older and probably don't care for Spotify which is why streams on her most successful albums are lower than they should be. It could also be that Janet is not connecting with today's youth like Whitney or Madonna or Mariah or Celine or Kate Bush. She doesn't have a definitive single like I Wanna Dance with Somebody or Running Up That Hill that people could put in a billion playlists. Call on Me is likely getting the spins it does because of Nelly.

[BadMan125]

Largely different with Beyonce. I think from what I understand is RIAA does not include "User Generated YouTube Streams (songs featured in users' videos). Someone correct me if I'm wrong here. ISAF also came around in a digital era. Physical units died down a lot by then.

"Control" was last certified in 1989, when album sales were STILL huge. Sales dipped in the Napster era (2003-2004). The idea that "Control" only shipped 1 million copies in 34 years isn't realistic. You're also forgetting how big the album was in the music club sales era.

Remind you, these are views from audio generated streams posted by Columbia Records of IASF:

1. If I Were a Boy - 19m
2. Halo - 41m - most viewed audio track on IASF by a large margin
3. Disappear - 1.9m
4. Broken-Hearted Girl - 7.2m
5. Ave Maria - 2.3m
6. Smash Into You - 4.1m
7. Satellites - 137k
8. That's Why You're Beautiful - 235k
9. Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) - 28m
10. Radio - 631k
11. Diva - 9.9m
12. Sweet Dreams - 18m
13. Video Phone - 971k
14. Hello - 3.5m
15. Ego - 17m
16. Scared of Lonely - 758k

Overall, its audio views are pretty large compared to this from Control:

1. Control - 998k
2. Nasty - 2.2m
3. What Have You Done for Me Lately - 1m
4. You Can Be Mine - 174k
5. The Pleasure Principle - 1.4m
6. When I Think of You - 2.2m
7. He Doesn't Know I'm Alive - 176k
8. Let's Wait Awhile - 2.8m
9. Funny How Time Flies - 4m - most viewed track on Control thus far

IASF - 154,632,000 (approximate)
CTRL - 14,948,000 (approximate)

Obviously there is a BIG gap between the two. IASF would be closer for a new certification than Control is at this stage.

[BadMan125]

Spotify is really popular in Brazil, and Call On Me is one of her biggest hits over here (if not the biggest - the song played a lot on the radio).

I love BURNITUP!. It's one of my most played Janet songs and I didn't know it was not an official single. Definitely a mistake

I forgot how popular Call on Me was over there! You're right.

[Choley]

That's fake.

[BadMan125]

Some 1993 Billboard Year-End stats.
(Reminder that at the time, Billboard did not acknowledge The Bodyguard as a Whitney Houston album. They do now)

1993:
Top Artist - #6
Top Female Artists - #1
Top Hot100 Artists - #3
Top Hot100 Females - #2
Top 200 Album - #4
Too 200 Albums Artists - #7
Top 200 Female - #1
Top Hot100 Songs - #4 (TTWLG), #19 (If), #74 (Again)
Top Selling Singles - #11 (TTWLG)
Top Airplay Songs - #2 (TTWLG), #11 (If), #18 (Again)
Top R&B Singles Artists - #5
Top R&B Singles - #3 (TTWLG), #28 (If)

They definitely acknowledged that it was at the 1993 awards ceremony though. That was a big get that they did. Maybe that's why it was her that got every award and not Janet.

[BadMan125]

That's fake.

Faker than a $2 bill. That account is a Twitter Blue account so beware of their postings. They also said Whitney's My Love is Your Love was eligible for 8x platinum.

[BadMan125]

^^That Twitter page has no credibility!

None whatsoever!

[BadMan125]

Top 20 viewed Janet Jackson videos on YouTube (3/19-3/20)

1. Scream - 32,848
2. Together Again - 29,403
3. Call on Me - 18,900
4. That's the Way Love Goes - 15,221
5. All for You - 11,099
6. Rhythm Nation - 7,280
7. The Pleasure Principle - 7,266
8. Escapade - 7,233
9. Let's Wait Awhile - 6,897
10. Come Back to Me - 6,298
11. Doesn't Really Matter - 6,270
12. Love Will Never Do (Without You) - 5,963
13. Got 'til It's Gone - 5,426
14. I Get Lonely - 5,261
15. Made for Now - 4,873
16. Belt or no belt (short) - 4,782
17. Go Deep - 4,711
18. Miss You Much - 4,688
19. If - 4,360
20. All Nite (Don't Stop) - 4,316

Total views for the day: 215,500

[lovedeluxe]

Remind you, these are views from audio generated streams posted by Columbia Records of IASF:

1. If I Were a Boy - 19m
2. Halo - 41m - most viewed audio track on IASF by a large margin
3. Disappear - 1.9m
4. Broken-Hearted Girl - 7.2m
5. Ave Maria - 2.3m
6. Smash Into You - 4.1m
7. Satellites - 137k
8. That's Why You're Beautiful - 235k
9. Single Ladies (Put a Ring on It) - 28m
10. Radio - 631k
11. Diva - 9.9m
12. Sweet Dreams - 18m
13. Video Phone - 971k
14. Hello - 3.5m
15. Ego - 17m
16. Scared of Lonely - 758k

Overall, its audio views are pretty large compared to this from Control:

1. Control - 998k
2. Nasty - 2.2m
3. What Have You Done for Me Lately - 1m
4. You Can Be Mine - 174k
5. The Pleasure Principle - 1.4m
6. When I Think of You - 2.2m
7. He Doesn't Know I'm Alive - 176k
8. Let's Wait Awhile - 2.8m
9. Funny How Time Flies - 4m - most viewed track on Control thus far

IASF - 154,632,000 (approximate)
CTRL - 14,948,000 (approximate)

Obviously there is a BIG gap between the two. IASF would be closer for a new certification than Control is at this stage.

I'm not comparing AGS.

Janet was a massive physical sales seller. It's last certification was 1989. You're suggesting that "Control" shipped/sold 24,000 copies a year since 1989?

Even "Janet Jackson" sold nearly 8,000 a year from 91-99.

[lovedeluxe]

... Maybe I just know more than most here. I'll just leave it at that. ;)

[HouseTargaryen]

Janet did very well with music clubs. Her pre-Virgin era could have gone very well with Columbia.


I just don't want to get excited and end up with egg on my face. I believe that Control will get 7xp+ but I'll prepare for 6.

Also, BadMan125 , $2 bills are real

[musiclover3568]

The Big 5 Ranked by Spotify Listeners (Per Continent):


Africa (South Africa Only):

Rank	Current Listeners
1. Mariah Carey	135,000
2. Whitney Houston	107,000
3. Janet Jackson	57,600
4. Celine Dion	51,000
5. Madonna	N/A

Asia:

Rank	Current Listeners
1. Mariah Carey	2.23 Million
2. Celine Dion	1.07 Million
3. Whitney Houston	467,400
4. Madonna	236,100
5. Janet Jackson	157,700

Europe:

Rank	Current Listeners
1. Madonna	4.71 Million
2. Mariah Carey	4.62 Million
3. Whitney Houston	3.99 Million
4. Celine Dion	2.59 Million
5. Janet Jackson	665,400

North America:

Rank	Current Listeners
1. Mariah Carey	5.1 Million
2. Madonna	3.25 Million
3. Whitney Houston	2.86 Million
4. Janet Jackson	1.38 Million
5. Celine Dion	1.12 Million

Oceania:

Rank	Current Listeners
1. Mariah Carey	1.33 Million
2. Whitney Houston	1.2 Million
3. Madonna	977,100
4. Celine Dion	449,500
5. Janet Jackson	340,800

South America:

Rank	Current Listeners
1. Madonna	1.54 Million
2. Mariah Carey	933,000
3. Whitney Houston	816,800
4. Celine Dion	413,100
5. Janet Jackson	146,000

It seems Celine Dion may overtake Janet in South Africa, but then again she has an advantage, not only overall but particularly around Christmas.

The unblocking of Together Again seems to be helping considerably in Europe, we've had an increase of (+59,700), compared to last time's figure of 605,700. There are 4 key cities that have contributed to growth the most: London, Paris, Rotterdam & Brussels.

It looks like Brazil may follow in pursuit, for South America, thanks to Call On Me.

[HouseTargaryen]

They definitely acknowledged that it was at the 1993 awards ceremony though. That was a big get that they did. Maybe that's why it was her that got every award and not Janet.

Whitney was awarded because she was a producer/performer but it was not credited as HER album. That's why Janet won Female Top200 artist of the year. Whitney would have easily been top 2 artist of the year but she wasn't given points for TBS.

[BadMan125]

I'm not comparing AGS.

Janet was a massive physical sales seller. It's last certification was 1989. You're suggesting that "Control" shipped/sold 24,000 copies a year since 1989?

Even "Janet Jackson" sold nearly 8,000 a year from 91-99.

She moved great physical numbers when her albums were out, doesn't mean it continued after it left the charts. And for the debut to only do that. I think Anita Baker's "Songstress" sold more than that if I'm not mistaken?

[BadMan125]

Janet did very well with music clubs. Her pre-Virgin era could have gone very well with Columbia.


I just don't want to get excited and end up with egg on my face. I believe that Control will get 7xp+ but I'll prepare for 6.

Also, BadMan125 , $2 bills are real

[BadMan125]

Whitney was awarded because she was a producer/performer but it was not credited as HER album. That's why Janet won Female Top200 artist of the year. Whitney would have easily been top 2 artist of the year but she wasn't given points for TBS.

I know.

[musiclover3568]

London has officially surpassed 200,000 listeners (200,151)

[BadMan125]

Top 20 viewed Janet Jackson videos on YouTube (3/21)

1. Scream - 32,566
2. Together Again - 28,797
3. That's the Way Love Goes - 14,618
4. All for You - 10,859
5. Rhythm Nation - 7,202
6. Escapade - 6,981
7. The Pleasure Principle - 6,946
8. Let's Wait Awhile - 6,766
9. Doesn't Really Matter - 6,099
10. Come Back to Me - 6,048
11. Belt or no belt - 5,642
12. Love Will Never Do (Without You) - 5,620
13. Got 'til It's Gone - 5,266
14. I Get Lonely - 5,196
15. Made for Now - 4,936
16. Go Deep - 4,645
17. Miss You Much - 4,424
18. If - 4,218
19. All Nite (Don't Stop) - 4,067
20. Again - 3,912

Total views of the day: 209,686

[BadMan125]

Top Janet albums via YouTube audio views (topic only; excluding the remix albums)

1. janet. - 51,222,000 (approximate)
2. All for You - 19,619,000 (approximate)
3. Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814 - 17,306,000 (approximate)
4. The Velvet Rope 16,817,000 (approximate)
5. Control - 14,850,000 (approximate)
6. 20 Y.O. - 7,412,000 (approximate)
7. Damita Jo - 7,202,000 (approximate)
8. Unbreakable - 1,642,000 (approximate)
9. Discipline - 1,164,000 (approximate)
10. Janet Jackson - 678,000 (approximate)
11. Dream Street - 527,000 (approximate)

[lovedeluxe]

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainm...-Frank-Sinatra

Experts from Offline Marketing Company Oppizi have compiled the Top 10 US Artists of all time who have sold the most physical copies of their music.

1. Elvis Presley – 135,210,000
2. Frank Sinatra – 95,250,000
3. Michael Jackson – 79,350,000
4. Madonna – 75,210,000
5. Stevie Wonder – 65,320,000
6. Whitney Houston – 49,520,000
7. Cher – 46,220,000
8. Prince – 42,210,000
9. Janet Jackson – 40,640,000
10. Billy Joel – 36,910,000


Not sure what data they're using.

[HouseTargaryen]

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainm...-Frank-Sinatra

Experts from Offline Marketing Company Oppizi have compiled the Top 10 US Artists of all time who have sold the most physical copies of their music.

1. Elvis Presley – 135,210,000
2. Frank Sinatra – 95,250,000
3. Michael Jackson – 79,350,000
4. Madonna – 75,210,000
5. Stevie Wonder – 65,320,000
6. Whitney Houston – 49,520,000
7. Cher – 46,220,000
8. Prince – 42,210,000
9. Janet Jackson – 40,640,000
10. Billy Joel – 36,910,000


Not sure what data they're using.

Looks like Chartmasters physical single sales.

[musiclover3568]

Spotify Listeners Update

*Cities in bold are at a new peak.

#	City	Current	Change (LW)	Peak
01	London	200,151	+2,871	200,151
02	Los Angeles	109,963	-3,023	127,103
03	Sydney	107,104	-924	117,659
04	Melbourne	87,621	+553	95,801
05	Sao Paulo	78,445	+2,121	78,445
06	Chicago	68,826	-2,121	92,114
07	Brooklyn	68,498	+633	74,540
08	New York City	65,877	+603	73,745
09	Amsterdam	60,469	+783	70,693
10	Atlanta	58,881	-3,067	74,947
11	Paris	57,150	-246	58,209
12	Brisbane	56,276	+388	67,000
13	Dallas	53,040	-183	67,528
14	Toronto	51,422	+224	59,908
15	Philadelphia	49,452	+1,034	50,143
16	Houston	45,003	-1,170	53,325
17	Rotterdam	43,913	+969	43,913
18	Quezon City	42,538	+987	45,541
19	Charlotte	42,005	+293	42,143
20	Mexico City	41,375	+29	51,184
21	Phoenix	39,957	+734	43,190
22	Santiago	38,993	+181	49,660
23	Seattle	38,952	-1,303	41,558
24	Auckland	38,805	+132	47,335
25	Washington	37,591	-397	42,850
26	Johannesburg	36,608	+1,543	36,608
27	San Francisco	34,059	+1,435	52,760
28	Minneapolis	33,560	-519	36,036
29	Berlin	33,433	+439	34,670
30	Miami	31,950	-201	33,198
31	Perth	31,609	+61	38,684
32	Brussels	31,311	+279	31,311
33	Denver	30,794	-267	38,934
34	Montreal	30,277	-110	35,280
35	Rio de Janeiro	30,257	+639	31,289
36	San Antonio	28,858	-714	29,959
37	Dublin	28,373	-315	34,266
38	San Diego	28,091	-882	29,091
39	Sacramento	27,571	-80	30,135
40	Vancouver	26,808	-663	28,946
41	Riverside	26,406	+1,101	27,106
42	Las Vegas	25,681	-865	33,119
43	Tokyo	25,400	+1,398	25,400
44	Orlando	25,390	-508	28,088
45	Columbus	24,826	+21	25,408
46	Birmingham	24,130	-359	46,072
47	Stockholm	23,685	+360	23,704
48	Boston	22,210	N/A	22,840
49	Cape Town	21,954	+530	21,954
50	Manchester	21,358	N/A	26,729

Fantastic news, as London becomes Janet's first ever city to surpass 200,000 listeners (200,151)

Top 3 Gainers of the Week:

London (+2,871), Sao Paulo (+2,121) & Johannesburg (+1,543).