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Originally posted by Choley View PostI would say I will always love you or All that she wants because they were so popular back then and we can't forget about that one hit wonder songs like What's up and Informer
Thats the way love goes
#2 Year end airplay America
#4 Year end airplay Europe
DreamLover
#1 Year end airplay America
#7 Year end airplay Europe
I will Always love you
#7 Year end airplay America
#9 Year end airplay Europe
All That she wants (No Competition)
#44 Year end airplay America
#12 Year end airplay Europe
Whats up (Still a classic but no competition if it didn't get played in the largest music market)
N/A Year end Airplay America
#1 Year end Airplay in Europe
Informer (No competition)
#38 Year end Airplay America
#26 Year end Airplay Europe
Year end airplay 1993 America
1 DREAMLOVER CAREY, MARIAH
2 THAT'S THE WAY LOVE GOES JACKSON, JANET
3 CAN'T HELP FALLING IN LOVE UB40
4 DON'T WALK AWAY JADE
5 WEAK SWV
6 FREAK ME SILK
7 I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU HOUSTON, WHITNEY
8 SHOW ME LOVE S., ROBIN
9 RIVER OF DREAMS JOEL, BILLY
10 TWO PRINCES SPIN DOCTORS
11 IF JACKSON, JANET
12 IF I EVER FALL IN LOVE SHAI
13 LOOKING THROUGH PATIENT EYES P.M. DAWN
14 I DON'T WANNA FIGHT TURNER, TINA
15 LOVE IS WILLIAMS, VANESSA & BRIAN MCKNIGHT
16 BABY I'M YOURS SHAI
17 I HAVE NOTHING HOUSTON, WHITNEY
18 AGAIN JACKSON, JANET
19 IN THE STILL OF THE NITE BOYZ II MEN
20 RIGHT HERE(HUMAN NATURE) SWV
21 I'LL NEVER GET OVER YOU EXPOSE
22 I'M SO INTO YOU SWV
23 COME UNDONE DURAN DURAN
24 RUNAWAY TRAIN SOUL ASYLUM
25 LATELY JODECI
26 RHYTHM IS A DANCER SNAP
27 HAVE I TOLD YOU LATELY STEWART, ROD
28 A WHOLE NEW WORLD BRYSON, PEABO & REGINA BELLE
29 I'M EVERY WOMAN HOUSTON, WHITNEY
30 KNOCKIN' DA BOOTS H-TOWN
31 MR. WENDAL ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT
32 ORDINARY WORLD DURAN DURAN
33 SAVING FOREVER FOR YOU SHANICE
34 WHOOMP!(THERE IT IS) TAG TEAM
35 WILL YOU BE THERE JACKSON, MICHAEL
36 COMFORTER SHAI
37 IF I HAD NO LOOT TONY! TONI! TONE!
38 INFORMER SNOW
39 ANOTHER SAD LOVE SONG BRAXTON, TONI
40 I'D DIE WITHOUT YOU P.M. DAWN
41 GOOD ENOUGH BROWN, BOBBY
42 NUTHIN' BUT A G THANG DR. DRE
43 HERE WE GO AGAIN! PORTRAIT
44 ALL THAT SHE WANTS ACE OF BASE
45 THAT'S WHAT LOVE CAN DO BOY KRAZY
46 ONE LAST CRY MCKNIGHT, BRIAN
47 DO YOU BELIEVE IN IS SECADA, JON
48 7 PRINCE & THE NEW POWER GENERATION
49 HIP HOP HOORAY NAUGHTY BY NATURE
50 OOH CHILD DINO
51 REASON TO BELIEVE STEWART, ROD
52 RUMP SHAKER WRECKX-N-EFFECT
53 DEEPER AND DEEPER MADONNA
54 RAIN MADONNA
55 REAL LOVE BLIGE, MARY J.
56 I'M GONNA BE(500 MILES) PROCLAIMERS
57 GIVE IT UP, TURN IT LOOSE EN VOGUE
58 HEY MR. D.J. ZHANE
59 FIELDS OF GOLD STING
60 MORE AND MORE CAPTAIN HOLLYWOOD PROJECT
61 BREAK IT DOWN AGAIN TEARS FOR FEARS
62 I'M FREE SECADA, JON
63 SWEET THING BLIGE, MARY J.
64 WHERE ARE YOU NOW JACKSON, JANET
65 WHEN SHE CRIES RESTLESS HEART
66 DAZZEY DUKS DUICE
67 FAITHFUL GO WEST
68 SWEAT(A LA LA LA LA LONG) INNER CIRCLE
69 ANGEL SECADA, JON
70 HOW DO YOU TALK TO AN ANGEL HEIGHTS
71 WHAT IS LOVE HADDAWAY
72 TO LOVE SOMEBODY BOLTON, MICHAEL
73 I'D DO ANYTHING FOR LOVE MEATLOAF
74 JUST KICKIN' IT XSCAPE
75 ONE WOMAN JADELast edited by _makeme; Mon July 22, 2019, 11:07.
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The biggest airplay hits of the year usually weren't also the #1 sellers of the year. Like in 1994 in Europe Mariah's Without you was #2 on the year end singles charts. Music Box was #1 on the year end album charts. But without you was only #10 on the year end airplay chart. It seems like Ballads sold albums more in Europe back then
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Originally posted by _makeme View PostDo you guys think it's safe to say TTWLG was the most play song on the radio WW in 1993? The receipts point to yes. But of course we don't know Asian airplay stats.
I think its a safe bet to say yes.
She could‘ve been the most successful female artist of the 90s but Mariah had to debutBritney Spears • Selena Gomez • Taylor Swift • Janet Jackson • • Michael Jackson • • Hilary Duff • Christina Aguilera •
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Let's not forget Billboard did not include R&B chart points in the Hot 100 Airplay chart until the end of 1998.
"That's the Way Love Goes" is still the only song in history to enter ANY airplay chart at #1 when it entered at #1 on the R&B Airplay chart. I don't think that record will ever be broken.
Imagine if her R&B airplay points were added to the Hot 100 Airplay chart AND Hot 100..... Almost all of her singles would have been #1 on the Hot 100!Last edited by lovedeluxe; Mon July 22, 2019, 13:32.
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Originally posted by lovedeluxe View PostLet's not forget Billboard did not include R&B chart points in the Hot 100 Airplay chart until the end of 1998.
"That's the Way Love Goes" is still the only song in history to enter ANY airplay chart at #1 when it entered at #1 on the R&B Airplay chart. I don't think that record will ever be broken.
Imagine if her R&B airplay points were added to the Hot 100 Airplay chart AND Hot 100..... Almost all of her singles would have been #1 on the Hot 100!
I guess it’s confirmed
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Originally posted by JeremySpears View PostShe could‘ve been the most successful female artist of the 90s but Mariah had to debut
Records sales (Albums + Physical Singles + Videos):
1. Celine Dion - 154,000,000
2. Mariah Carey - 153,000,000
3. Madonna - 106,000,000
4. Whitney Houston - 95,000,000
5. Shania Twain - 65,000,000
6. Spice Girls - 58,000,000
7. Janet Jackson - 54,000,000
*Digital sales were not included for any of them as those sales were generated in the 00s (not the 90s).Rock lives forever: Led Zeppelin . Metallica . Pink Floyd . Nirvana . Radiohead . Pearl Jam . Oasis . Iron Maiden . Nine Inch Nails
Approved Popstars: Michael Jackson . Madonna . Britney Spears . Beyoncé . Rihanna
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Janet has had 16 #1 R&B singles, 13 of them were before Billboard added that rule.
What Have You Done for Me Lately #4 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Nasty #3 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Control #5 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Let's Wait Awhile #2 Hot 100 #1 R&B
The Pleasure Principle #14 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Diamonds #5 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Rhythm Nation #2 Hot 100 #1 R&B
The Best Things In Life Are Free #10 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Any Time, Any Place #2 Hot 100 #1 R&B
I Get Lonely #3 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Those 10 songs would undoubtedly charted higher (possibly even #1 for Nasty, Nation, Any Time, IGL, LWA) if the R&B chart points were counted for. She'd probably have 12-16 #1 Hot 100 singles.
Miss You Much #1 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Escapade #1 Hot 100 #1 R&B
That's the Way Love Goes #1 Hot 100 #1 R&B
Those three records would have probably spent a longer time at #1 as well - especially That's the Way Love Goes!
If someone correct me if I'm wrong. I think Michael has only had 8 #1 R&B singles?Last edited by lovedeluxe; Mon July 22, 2019, 15:01.
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Originally posted by MrLeonix View PostNot really @JeremySpears. In fact Janet was not even one of the Top 5 female artists of the 90s.
Records sales (Albums + Physical Singles + Videos):
1. Celine Dion - 154,000,000
2. Mariah Carey - 153,000,000
3. Madonna - 106,000,000
4. Whitney Houston - 95,000,000
5. Shania Twain - 65,000,000
6. Spice Girls - 58,000,000
7. Janet Jackson - 54,000,000
*Digital sales were not included for any of them as those sales were generated in the 00s (not the 90s).
You are keep on putting Spice Girls on this list. It's a group. We're not comparing The Beatles with Michael Jackson when we're talking about the most successful male artists.
Average number of records sold per album release in the 1990s (according to provided numbers above, probably irrelevant ChartMasters data, but anyway)
Whitney Houston 23,7M
Shania Twain 21,6M
Mariah Carey 19,1M
Janet Jackson 18M
Madonna 15,7M
Celine Dion 8,5M
Tour gross and attendance
It's between Janet Jackson, Tina Turner, and Celine Dion
Highest paid artists
Janet Jackson $120 million
Madonna $60 millionLast edited by Bojan; Tue July 23, 2019, 14:08.Gone.
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Originally posted by Bojan View PostYou are keep on putting Spice Girls on this list. It's a group. We're not comparing The Beatles with Michael Jackson when we're talking about the most successful male artists.Rock lives forever: Led Zeppelin . Metallica . Pink Floyd . Nirvana . Radiohead . Pearl Jam . Oasis . Iron Maiden . Nine Inch Nails
Approved Popstars: Michael Jackson . Madonna . Britney Spears . Beyoncé . Rihanna
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Originally posted by JeremySpears View PostWow imagine being that powerful
She could‘ve been the most successful female artist of the 90s but Mariah had to debut
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Originally posted by MrLeonix View PostThe point remains the same though. @JeremySpears thought that if it wasn't for Mariah then Janet could've been the biggest female act of the 90s which was not accurate, removing Spice Girls Janet would still rank as the 6th biggest female solo artist of the 90s, clearly very far away from #2. The Top 5 biggest artists of the 90s in terms of records sales (albums sales + physical singles sales + Videos) are: 1. Celine Dion 2. Mariah Carey 3. Madonna 4. Whitney Houston and 5. Shania Twain.Gone.
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Originally posted by MrLeonix View PostThe point remains the same though. @JeremySpears thought that if it wasn't for Mariah then Janet could've been the biggest female act of the 90s which was not accurate, removing Spice Girls Janet would still rank as the 6th biggest female solo artist of the 90s, clearly very far away from #2. The Top 5 biggest artists of the 90s in terms of records sales (albums sales + physical singles sales + Videos) are: 1. Celine Dion 2. Mariah Carey 3. Madonna 4. Whitney Houston and 5. Shania Twain.
Madonna released "I'm Breathless," "Erotica," "Evita," "Bedtime Stories," "Ray of Light," "The Immaculate Collection" and "Something to Remember". In the US "janet." sold more than "Erotica," "Bedtime" and I think "ROL" combined.
Mariah released 10 projects in the 1990s.
Celine released 12 projects.
Another thing you have to factor in is Janet's sales are beyond under certified. "janet." has hard sales of over 8 million yet still only certified for 6 million over 25 years later.
Mariah, Madonna, Celine released way more projects than Janet. Naturally they should have a larger amount of units sold but that shouldn't take away from the fact that most of them would never release an album the same week as Janet in her prime.Last edited by lovedeluxe; Wed July 24, 2019, 13:49.
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There is a reason Janet was by far the highest-paid artist of the 90s and ever at the time. If you do it once, it could be partly written off to luck. If you do it twice, you're definitely worthy of it. $120 million is $205 million in 2019 dollars. $205 million for five albums. Amazing.Gone.
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Originally posted by lovedeluxe View PostIn all fairness. Janet released only two albums in the 90s + one greatest hits.
Madonna released "I'm Breathless," "Erotica," "Evita," "Bedtime Stories," "Ray of Light," "The Immaculate Collection" and "Something to Remember". In the US "janet." sold more than "Erotica," "Bedtime" and I think "ROL" combined.
Mariah released 10 projects in the 1990s.
Celine released 12 projects.
Another thing you have to factor in is Janet's sales are beyond under certified. "janet." has hard sales of over 8 million yet still only certified for 6 million over 25 years later.
Mariah, Madonna, Celine released way more projects than Janet. Naturally they should have a larger amount of units sold but that shouldn't take away from the fact that most of them would never release an album the same week as Janet in her prime.
I would agree here with the topic that Janet might have actually been #1 female of the decade in US if she released more albums/singles, her success was more organic than Mariah's (we know why). She was #1 female for sure there during 1986-1994.
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Not only her eras were longer @Westen but most forget that a big part of "Rhythm Nation" era was basically done in the 90s and part of the album's sales and several RN's singles sales happened in the 90s too.Last edited by MrLeonix; Wed July 24, 2019, 16:57.Rock lives forever: Led Zeppelin . Metallica . Pink Floyd . Nirvana . Radiohead . Pearl Jam . Oasis . Iron Maiden . Nine Inch Nails
Approved Popstars: Michael Jackson . Madonna . Britney Spears . Beyoncé . Rihanna
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Originally posted by lovedeluxe View PostI'm aware that 5 of the 7 RN singles came out in the 90s and RN was also the #1 album of 1990. That's very fair to say.
However even if you add RN as a full album in the 90s she still only released 3 albums and 1 hits vs. 7 projects from Madonna, 10 from Mariah, 12 from Celine.
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It's fair to say that Mariah, Celine or Madonna released more albums than Janet in the 90s, that's actually a fact!. But why are we ignoring Whitney and Shania?
Whitney only released 2 studio albums in the 90s and 2 soundtracks and Shania only released 3 albums in the 90s (only two of them succeeded) and that didn't stop them from being the 4th and 5th biggest selling female artists of the 90s.Rock lives forever: Led Zeppelin . Metallica . Pink Floyd . Nirvana . Radiohead . Pearl Jam . Oasis . Iron Maiden . Nine Inch Nails
Approved Popstars: Michael Jackson . Madonna . Britney Spears . Beyoncé . Rihanna
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