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  • Statsandchart
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    Now let's move on, please.

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  • Statsandchart
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    Originally posted by Nost View Post

    I saw that Sia remained classified for almost 3 months from November 2020 to February 2021, maybe that's what makes the difference, AIWFCIY generally only lives for 1 month maximum.
    This still does not solve the problem when you consider that AIWFCIY must have spent more time than that in the top 50 of the French chart, from the 90s to the present day.

    One is not obliged to respond to my remark if he does not have the right explanation, I was not launching a debate or a challenge.

    I think the right answer is simply that we don't know.
    Last edited by Statsandchart; Mon December 26, 2022, 17:01.

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  • Statsandchart
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    Not always. I mean aren't some of Mariahs songs certified in the US and haven't charted.
    It's not the same thing or the same situation, and I didn't say that this kind of thing doesn't exist elsewhere. I just thought I could find an explanation that might shed some light on the situation, that's why I made this remark, but there is obviously none, so that's good.

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  • Nost
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    Originally posted by Statsandchart View Post

    Yes I know, however based on the chart stats, both songs are popular in the streaming era ( AIWFCIY has peaked at #1 in the streaming era, Snowman at # 35) .AIWFCIY and Snowman have both charted in France during the same frame of time ( 2017-today) with AIWFCIY always outcharting it. Yet, Snowman goes Platinum and AIWFCIY is not certified. Unless chart positions don't really reflect the success and popularity of songs actually.
    I saw that Sia remained classified for almost 3 months from November 2020 to February 2021, maybe that's what makes the difference, AIWFCIY generally only lives for 1 month maximum.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Statsandchart View Post

    Yes I know, however based on the chart stats, both songs are popular in the streaming era ( AIWFCIY has peaked at #1 in the streaming era, Snowman at # 35) .AIWFCIY and Snowman have both charted in France during the same frame of time ( 2017-today) with AIWFCIY always outcharting it. Yet, Snowman goes Platinum and AIWFCIY is not certified. Unless chart positions don't really reflect the success and popularity of songs actually.
    Not always. I mean aren't some of Mariahs songs certified in the US and haven't charted.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by stevyy View Post

    well, what can she do? She has to perform it more on TV (and skip AIW) and she has to get it to soundtrack a huge commercial.
    Won't make a difference. No other track will ever challenge AIW.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by thebigham View Post
    https://www.billboard.com/music/char..._medium=social

    SZA’s ‘SOS’ Spends Second Week Atop Billboard 200 Albums Chart
    By Keith Caulfield
    12/26/2022

    Mariah Carey’s Merry Christmas dashes 11-9 (53,000; up 18%).


    Where did it peak last year?

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  • Statsandchart
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    Originally posted by Nost View Post

    Don't forget that the SIA song was released in the middle of the streaming era and SIA is current and popular in France much more than Mariah, I think she could have Gold, maybe the pro week or next year .
    Yes I know, however based on the chart stats, both songs are popular in the streaming era ( AIWFCIY has peaked at #1 in the streaming era, Snowman at # 35) .AIWFCIY and Snowman have both charted in France during the same frame of time ( 2017-today) with AIWFCIY always outcharting it. Yet, Snowman goes Platinum and AIWFCIY is not certified. Unless chart positions don't really reflect the success and popularity of songs actually.

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  • thebigham
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    https://www.billboard.com/music/char..._medium=social

    SZA’s ‘SOS’ Spends Second Week Atop Billboard 200 Albums Chart
    By Keith Caulfield
    12/26/2022

    Mariah Carey’s Merry Christmas dashes 11-9 (53,000; up 18%).



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  • Nost
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    Originally posted by Statsandchart View Post
    Absolutely.
    A bit off topic but I sometimes find it weird that AIWFCIY is still not certified in France, after all these years where it charts regularly in the French chart, and even peaked at the top of the chart in 2018.
    Not to mention that it charts every year in the top 10 or the top 20 for several years already.
    In comparison, Sia's 2017 single Snowman is already certified platinum, while its peak in the French chart was # 35.
    Don't forget that the SIA song was released in the middle of the streaming era and SIA is current and popular in France much more than Mariah, I think she could have Gold, maybe the pro week or next year .

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  • lambforever
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    Imagine if Brenda dropped a remix with a big name. She won't though. I'll be shocked to ever see her at 1.
    Same. Her best chances are always the 1st week of December and surprisingly this week. Snatching the number 1 from AIW will be shocking whenever it happens.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by lambforever View Post

    Brenda is doing explosive spotify streams in the U.s so far and based off chart predictors, both songs are in a tight battle for number 1.

    AIW should hopefully finish at top
    Imagine if Brenda dropped a remix with a big name. She won't though. I'll be shocked to ever see her at 1.

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  • Statsandchart
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    Absolutely.
    A bit off topic but I sometimes find it weird that AIWFCIY is still not certified in France, after all these years where it charts regularly in the French chart, and even peaked at the top of the chart in 2018.
    Not to mention that it charts every year in the top 10 or the top 20 for several years already.
    In comparison, Sia's 2017 single Snowman is already certified platinum, while its peak in the French chart was # 35.

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  • lambforever
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    If Brenda is her only challenger she will definitely get it.
    Mariah has massive advantages, radio favour her , she has 4 videos on youtube, 3 or 4 remixes. All gathering points. Plus physical versions on her website.
    Brenda has one version counting, there's no way she's ever beating Mariah as it stands.
    Brenda is doing explosive spotify streams in the U.s so far and based off chart predictors, both songs are in a tight battle for number 1.

    AIW should hopefully finish at top

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by lambforever View Post

    The 11th week gives her 90 weeks at number 1 and this was another great season for the song. Still hoping for the 12th
    If Brenda is her only challenger she will definitely get it.
    Mariah has massive advantages, radio favour her , she has 4 videos on youtube, 3 or 4 remixes. All gathering points. Plus physical versions on her website.
    Brenda has one version counting, there's no way she's ever beating Mariah as it stands.

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  • Nost
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    Originally posted by Statsandchart View Post

    Indeed, it's the only Christmas song in the top 25, Wham is the second one at # 27, and Sia's Snowman is the third at the 47th position.
    Christmas is significant mostly in Anglo-Saxon countries, not so much in Latin countries ( Italy seems to be a notable exception, though).
    Italy / France is mostly local rap that works very well.

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  • Statsandchart
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    Originally posted by Nost View Post

    It's not as good as last year, but in France we don't really like Christmas songs.
    Indeed, it's the only Christmas song in the top 25, Wham is the second one at # 27, and Sia's Snowman is the third at the 47th position.
    Christmas is significant mostly in Anglo-Saxon countries, not so much in Latin countries ( Italy seems to be a notable exception, though).

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  • ferrero
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    Yes! it has been a very long since we hear from Japan!

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  • ferrero
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    the plays went up though in France, perhaps the tracking period?

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  • LostAvenger
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    And I called it!

    All I Want For Christmas Is You now has a Gold streaming certification in Japan for 50 million streams: https://www.riaj.or.jp/f/data/cert/st.html
    G. All I Want For Christmas Is You Mariah Carey 2013-01-14 sony music labels
    Last edited by LostAvenger; Mon December 26, 2022, 15:08.

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  • Nost
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    Originally posted by loverboy01 View Post
    France
    7 (+2) All I Want For Christmas Is You
    It's not as good as last year, but in France we don't really like Christmas songs.

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  • loverboy01
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    France
    7 (+2) All I Want For Christmas Is You

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  • Statsandchart
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    Nope it was a bit down. Maybe the controversy with Darlene led some people to search out her version instead.
    Indeed, this decrease in its Spotify worldwide total must have taken place particularly in the US (as I supposed), due to rumors of the dispute with Darlene Love.
    However, the song appears on streaming service charts in more countries this year than last.

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  • delapuerta
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    16M yesterday

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  • Statsandchart
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    Spotify : 20 x #1
    YouTube 16x #1

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