German Charts Thread 2020-2021: weekly Charts, sales, infos, etc.

[Charter2000]

Wait, that would explain why Capital Bra and Loredana already released today

Yes, that's why I think the new chart week really started yesterday. It just so weird since all international releases plus all other german releases, too, are released today as far as I saw. Quite strange, on the other hand, Capital and Loredana will probably be #1 either way.

[theMathematician]

2 (3) Ramon Roselly - Herzenssache 3 weeks (No. 2 for 2 weeks) *new peak

WOW, no DSDS winner has been that successful since Beatrice Egly! Happy for him...

[theMathematician]

Ramon Roselly is still at No. 2. I'm gonna open a thread for him since he's the next big thing in Germany apparently.

[monzo]

In the comment section on Facebook, someone asked if todays sales/streams will be included in next weeks chart and they said that this will be the case!

That someone was me by the way. Was surprised they answered, because when I asked the same about Easter charts they remained silent.

[Charter2000]

That someone was me by the way. Was surprised they answered, because when I asked the same about Easter charts they remained silent.

btw I asked them about the different statements they gave and they answered that if there's a chart week with only 6 days the next day always counts for the next week so no day is missed out.

So regarding the discussion about the Ramon Roselly release: They released on a thursday because that was the first day of that chart week and all sales counted for the chart week.

[theMathematician]

This week, Ben Zucker's album re-enters at No. 1 on the German Albums Chart. A rare achievement, does anyone know about previous No. 1 re-entries?

[Charter2000]

This week, Ben Zucker's album re-enters at No. 1 on the German Albums Chart. A rare achievement, does anyone know about previous No. 1 re-entries?

The Kelly Family re-entered on #1 only a few weeks ago with the live version of last years album. Don't know about other #1 re-entries..

[vdoerken]

The Kelly Family re-entered on #1 only a few weeks ago with the live version of last years album. Don't know about other #1 re-entries..

In my opinion these two albums are no real re-entries. They are totally different (Live-versions) from their original releases.

[monzo]

In my opinion these two albums are no real re-entries. They are totally different (Live-versions) from their original releases.

It's so sad that you closed your current chart section on your homepage, V. Now it's indeed chart history only.

[vdoerken]

It's so sad that you closed your current chart section on your homepage, V. Now it's indeed chart history only.

There are 800 positions each week to enter - and it's really no fun anymore. I will concentrate on the Top-10 postions. But I prefer compiling the videos for the good old days.

[hardrockfan]

does someone do estimation for Albums here?

[conan17]

There are 800 positions each week to enter - and it's really no fun anymore. I will concentrate on the Top-10 postions. But I prefer compiling the videos for the good old days.

Looking at the current Top 10 it is hard for me to believe that the charts reflect what Germany is listening to at the moment.

[pleasenogermanrap]

I can't also imagine this.
I even don't know People who listen to this Kind of Music.
Only 30 seconds are enough to Count...When you listen 100 times it Counts 100 -
if you buy a song for example at ITunes and you listen 200 times it's only 1 COUNT!!!

[pleasenogermanrap]

20 years ago:

1	Freestyler	Bomfunk MC's
2	It's my life	Bon Jovi
3	Ich vermiss dich wie die Hölle	Zlatko
4	The riddle	Gigi d'Agostino
5	Oops!... I did it again	Britney Spears
6	Supergirl	Reamonn
7	Anton aus Tirol	Anton aus Tirol ft. DJ Ötzi
8	Fly on the wings of love	Olsen Brothers
9	Never be the same again	Melanie C.
10	Take my heart	Band ohne Namen
11	Bon voyage	Deichkind ft. Nina
12	Uncle John from Jamaica	Vengaboys
13	Leb!	Die Dritte Generation
14	Bayern	Die Toten Hosen
15	Thong song	Sisqo
16	Ring of fire	H-Blockx vs. Dr. Ring Ding
17	I'm your pusher	Scooter
18	One to make her happy	Marque
19	Maria Maria	Santana
20	Desert rose	Sting ft. Cheb Mami

10 years ago:

1	Satellite	Lena Meyer-Landrut
2	Wavin' flag	K'Naan
3	Geboren um zu leben	Unheilig
4	Waka Waka (This time for Africa)	Shakira ft. Freshlyground
5	Sweat	Mehrzad Marashi & Mark Medlock
6	Break your heart	Taio Cruz
7	Der Himmel soll warten	Sido ft. Adel Tawil
8	Stereo love	Edward Maya ft. Vika Jigulina
9	Don't believe	Mehrzad Marashi
10	Whataya want from me	Adam Lambert
11	Helele	Velile & Safri Duo
12	Alors on danse	Stromae
13	You and I	Medina
14	Like a lady	Monrose
15	In my head	Jason DeRulo
16	Roots to grow	Stefanie Heinzmann ft. Gentleman
17	Für immer	Unheilig
18	Song for Sophie	Aura Dione
19	Gebt uns ruhig die Schuld	Die Fantastischen Vier
20	Me and my guitar	Tom Dice

And now: NOTHING worth to mention

[monzo]

This brings back some nice memories, but it would be much much nicer if lastest top 100 singles and albums would be posted here again on a weekly basis.

[juszttamas2]

Dear Forum readers, we have a new weekly official german charts published by mix1.de

https://www.mix1.de/charts/singlecharts.htm

it is updated weekly, on Friday and only includes sales (physical and digital). This is how the real charts should look like.

[huhu78]

I can't also imagine this.
I even don't know People who listen to this Kind of Music.
Only 30 seconds are enough to Count...When you listen 100 times it Counts 100 -
if you buy a song for example at ITunes and you listen 200 times it's only 1 COUNT!!!

This is not true. One Stream does not equal one buy. In addition to that, when one person streams one song all day long it does not count every stream for the charts because the number of streams counted from one account for one song is limited.
But, of course, it is more space for manipulation. You don't have to buy many CD or vinyls, like in old days, you only have to have a network of accounts and streamers.
The ratio Streams:Revenue Unit is to low, you can have the number 1 in paid downloads but you're not in the Top 100 of the Charts. There must be a better solution than that. But after collecting the charts of the last 65 years, I'm not interested anymore and I won't continue in 2020.

[Charter2000]

Looking at the current Top 10 it is hard for me to believe that the charts reflect what Germany is listening to at the moment.

Depends on what you mean with "what Germany is listening". Those are the most played songs in Germany. I think that is true. It's not what most germans are listening to, though, but that's two different things. I already wrote that a few times during the last years: The younger audience attracted to german rap simply spends much more time listening to music because for the younger generation it's a normal thing to pretty much ALWAYS listen to music.

Quick example: When I leave the house I always(!) wear headphones. I never spend a single minute in the car, in the train or in the supermarket without listening to music or podcasts and I'm also able to listen while I work. This means I listen to music or podcasts for several hours a day. Spotify told me I listened to podcasts for more than 50,000 minutes in 2019 (don't remember the exact number). That is around 2,5 hours a day on average(!). While I prefer listening to podcasts, I'm sure the average teenager easily spends 3-4 hours or more listening to music each day.

Those german rap tracks topping the chart really are the most played tracks of the country and Youtube is not even included. Those tracks are the tracks with the biggest revenue and that's what the chart displays. I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'd really like a more diverse chart with more mainstream tracks on it but that's just how it is. The chart displays the tracks with the biggest revenue as always. That's not the charts fault.

Also, 15 years ago the youth also listened a lot to german rap. But back then without streaming services and having to pay 1€ per track on itunes, most people just illegally downloaded the music and shared it with their friends. That also meant that you couldn't make much money as a german rapper which is why there were only a few famous german rappers. The fact german rap became so strong during recent years is not that the youth suddenly became addicted to the genre but that (because of streaming services) rappers were finally able to earn big money and that lead to much more active artists with a bigger output.

[Charter2000]

Dear Forum readers, we have a new weekly official german charts published by mix1.de

https://www.mix1.de/charts/singlecharts.htm

it is updated weekly, on Friday and only includes sales (physical and digital). This is how the real charts should look like.

Since phycial single sales are pretty much not existing anymore, the data of that chart must be basically 100% downloads. There is an official Download Top 100 chart published every week so there really is no need for additional new charts without any official data and without any official rules to explain how the chart is put together. Also, stating that you exclude streaming because numbers could be manipulated is strange to me because streaming is the most important part of the singles market nowadays. I'm not saying manipulated streaming data is no problem but excluding streaming in general does not make the chart better. I remember you had the official charts listed on your site which is not the case anymore so you probably just searched for a cheap alternative to still grab clicks from search engine users searching for the singles chart.

[huhu78]

Those german rap tracks topping the chart really are the most played tracks of the country and Youtube is not even included. Those tracks are the tracks with the biggest revenue and that's what the chart displays.

I remember a video in which someone explains how streaming numbers are manipulated because of hacking in many accounts and play the same songs in order to push the numbers and chart position. Truth or fake? I don't know.
But a few months ago I recognised that my Spotify account was hacked and I "played" songs I never put on the Playlist. After changing the PW everything was OK again and still is but when someone doesn't take note of that...

[vdoerken]

It's so sad that you closed your current chart section on your homepage, V. Now it's indeed chart history only.

I have found a possibility to import the positions from an Excel-sheet. So I will update the charts within the next weeks.

[vdoerken]

German Singles Top 100 2020

Hi,

I have entered the German Singles-Topp 100 for 2020 in my database. I would like to present the weekly charts in an pdf-file.

If you are interested I can post it every week, when I have included the new positions.

Let me know if this could be interesting for you.

https://bit.ly/2YXuLtM

[trebor]

^
Volker: Data base error for:
> All Around The World (La La La) ... R3HAB & A Trouch Of Class
Should read: R3HAB & A Touch Of Class

Otherwise, neat work as usual!

[vdoerken]

Thanks for the info!

[LastDreamer]

Loredana already got 4 number one singles in 2020. Is it a female version of Capital Bra ?

[CZB]

Loredana already got 4 number one singles in 2020. Is it a female version of Capital Bra ?

She's from Switzerland, but does seem to be the most successful female generator of big rap hits in all the German-speaking countries. Indeed, she has collaborated with Capital Bra on one of them!



Meanwhile, it would seem that "Only Time" by Enya is no longer the only single ever to re-enter the top 100 at number one.....

http://www.mtv.de/charts/c6mc86/single-top-100

Presumably the revenue-based approach to the German chart, with much greater weighting to expensive physical sales, swung the balance this week?