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  • Billy J's 'Secret' is another of those "Should it be in the roster of bone fide number ones?" cases. The next Ultimate will be informative on this question.

    I was going to take my Fireball XL5 EP to the tip, but 45cat says it's worth 50!

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    • Originally posted by Splodj View Post
      I was going to take my Fireball XL5 EP to the tip, but 45cat says it's worth 50!
      Never throw away Fireball XL5 stuff!!!! Stuff is only worth what people will pay for it, but the Gerry Anderson stuff in general has a high value as not many where sold at the time/survive today (relatively speaking).
      http://thechartbook.co.uk - for the latest are best chart book - By Decade!
      Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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      • Originally posted by Splodj View Post
        Billy J's 'Secret' is another of those "Should it be in the roster of bone fide number ones?" cases. The next Ultimate will be informative on this question.

        I was going to take my Fireball XL5 EP to the tip, but 45cat says it's worth 50!
        Splodj ! A crime like that is still punishable by hanging
        The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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        • Greetings Pop Pickers !

          Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 8th 1963

          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 8th 1963 NME MM DISC RR Total
          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 100 150 50 30 Points
          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
          1 1 From Me To You - The Beatles 1= 2 1 2 1 9750
          2 2 Do You Want To Know A Secret - Billy J. Kramer and The Dakotas 1= 1 2 1 2 9720
          3 3 Scarlett O'Hara - Jet Harris and Tony Meehan 3 3 3 3 4 9210
          8 4 When Will You Say I Love You - Billy Fury 4 5 4 5 3 8790
          4 5 Lucky Lips - Cliff Richard 5 7 5 4 8 8340
          10 6 Take These Chains From My Heart - Ray Charles 6 6 6 8 5 8180
          16 7 I Like It - Gerry and The Pacemakers 7 4 9 6 7 7970
          7 8 Two Kinds Of Teardrops - Del Shannon 8 9 7 7 6 7750
          6 9 In Dreams - Roy Orbison 9 8 11 9 11 7000
          5 10 Can't Get Used To Losing You - Andy Williams 10 13 8 10 10 6930
          9 11 Deck Of Cards - Wink Martindale 11 11 10 12 9 6760
          17 12 If You Gotta Make A Fool Of Somebody - Freddie and The Dreamers 12 10 12 11 12 6520
          11 13 Young Lovers - Paul and Paula 13 15 13 14 13 5690
          24 14 Falling - Roy Orbison 14 14 20 15 19 4510
          19 15 Pipeline - The Chantays 16 21 15 18 16 4500
          15 16 Losing You - Brenda Lee 15 17 18 16 18 4490
          12 17 How Do You Do It - Gerry and The Pacemakers 17 23 16 17 15 4230
          NEW 18 Atlantis - The Shadows 18 12 23 13 27 4120
          13 19 Nobody's Darlin' But Mine - Frank Ifield 19 22 14 14 3960
          14 20 From A Jack To A King - Ned Miller 20 28 17 19 17 3420
          22 21 Harvest Of Love - Benny Hill 22 18 22 24 23 3240
          23 22 Forget Him - Bobby Rydell 21 19 24 20 21 3100
          18 23 He's So Fine - The Chiffons 23= 27 19 21 20 3030
          NEW 24 The Ice Cream man - The Tornados 23= 16 27 23 2500
          21 25 Casablanca - Kenny Ball 25= 21 27 28 1790
          27 26 Shy Girl - Mark Wynter 29 20 28 1250
          20 27 Say I Won't Be There - The Springfields 27= 25 22 1170
          30 28 Another Saturday Night - Sam Cooke 25= 26 30 26 25 1080
          NEW 29 Bo Diddley - Buddy Holly 27= 25 22 1050
          RE 30 Little Band Of Gold - James Gilreath 30 26 29 910
          25 Brown Eyed Handsome Man - Buddy Holly 30 28 30 24 710
          X Let's Go Steady Again - Neil Sedaka 24 700
          My Way - Eddie Cochran 29 26 450
          B It's Been Nice - The Everly Brothers 25 300
          X Out Of My Mind - Johnny Tillotson 29 200
          X Foolish Little Girl - The Shirelles 29 100
          28 Walk Like A Man - The Four Seasons 30 30
          26 Rhythm Of The Rain - The Cascades
          29 The Folk Singer - Tommy Roe
          The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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          • Ha Ha, The Beatles and Billy J. both top 2 of the four charts each but thanks to shop polling the Beatles hang on to #1 on The Ultimate Chart by the smallest of margins. Justice prevails methinks.

            It's an important week for two chart stalwarts who enter this week, The Shadows will have their very last top three hit and Buddy Holly will have his last top ten hit. The times they are a-changin'.
            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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            • Interesting that From Me To You was such a monster hit in the UK, but here in the States it didn't do much of anything. As Beatlemania was raging in early 1964, 17 charted sides across 6 labels in the first 4 months, 5 of which made #1, FMTY only eked out a #41 showing. Granted it was the b-side of Please Please Me here, which got up to #3, so buyers of that record got both songs, but DJs were opting to play the many other Beatle records instead.

              I don't even remember hearing FMTY on the radio. In fact, I didn't even know it existed until The Beatles Red Album 1962-66 was released in 1973. Capitol records had never released it on an LP even after they secured the rights back from Vee-Jay. Same thing with Misery and There's A Place, I didn't know they existed till the mid-70s, Capitol didn't release them on an LP until the US Rarities disc in 1980.

              Far out...

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              • 18 Atlantis - The Shadows

                Another large difference - 12 in NME but only 27 in RR.

                I didn't know the BBC had a joint no. 1 this week - you learn something new every day.
                Thanks Mr Tibbs for publishing these charts.

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                • Originally posted by RokinRobinOfLocksley View Post
                  Same thing with Misery and There's A Place, I didn't know they existed till the mid-70s, Capitol didn't release them on an LP until the US Rarities disc in 1980.
                  There's A Place was the B-side of Twist and Shout which was released on the Tollie label in March 1964. It reached no. 74 in Billboard while the A side was no. 2 in Billboard and no. 1 in Cashbox.

                  Misery and There's A Place were both included in the Vee Jay album Introducing the Beatles released in March 1964 in US. I'm surprised you never heard of them till the mid-70s.

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                  • Robin when in the sixties did you return to the states, and as a matter of interest did you also get into late sixties early seventies American music ?. I have to admit I'm also a sucker for that era of American music.

                    Thanks Brian and I'm happy to be able to share not just The Ultimate Chart but also the other charts lined up side by side for you guys to compare and enjoy.

                    I'm actually having a ball with the 1969 'fun' averaged charts. They are actually surprisingly consistent and robust, stabilising the yo-yo effect of the BMRB chart and by including the NME and MM getting an overall smoother chart that gives a best of all three result.
                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                    • kingofskiffle
                      kingofskiffle commented
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                      Really pleased your going to do 1969.

                  • Yeah, it’s time 69 gets a decent treatment.

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                    • Originally posted by brian05 View Post

                      There's A Place was the B-side of Twist and Shout which was released on the Tollie label in March 1964. It reached no. 74 in Billboard while the A side was no. 2 in Billboard and no. 1 in Cashbox.

                      Misery and There's A Place were both included in the Vee Jay album Introducing the Beatles released in March 1964 in US. I'm surprised you never heard of them till the mid-70s.
                      Alas, I was but a mere lad of 7 years at the time, no money for records, didn't even go to record shops, thus I never saw these, ha. Then they went out of print in 1964 on Tollie and Vee Jay when Capitol reclaimed the rights, but they never reissued them on an LP. They (and From Me To You) should have gone on The Early Beatles LP, but Capitol limited LPs to just 11 cuts, so nowhere to put them. With so many Beatles records continuously coming out the gate, they got put on the back burner. I see these 3 songs were reissued on 45s on the "Capitol Star Line" label in Oct 65, but by then I was in England for a 3 year stint. I did ask for a Beatles LP for my 9th birthday, this is what my parents gave me, scarred me for life, ha:

                      https://www.discogs.com/The-Liverpoo...U6Njc0NjA1OQ==

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                      • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
                        Robin when in the sixties did you return to the states, and as a matter of interest did you also get into late sixties early seventies American music ?. I have to admit I'm also a sucker for that era of American music.
                        I arrived in England late July 65, a week after "Help" was released. Stayed until late March 68, 2 weeks after "Lady Madonna" was released. My life history as defined in Beatle records, ha. I very much enjoyed US late 60s/early 70s pop/rock. 1971 is probably my favorite year for music to this day. Such fond memories of everywhere we lived (Dad was in the USAF), and the music, especially England. How ironic, as the British Invasion was occurring in the States, here I was over in the UK, and thankful for it !!

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                        • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                          Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 15th 1963

                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 15th 1963 NME MM DISC RR Total
                          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 100 150 50 30 Points
                          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                          7 1 I Like It - Gerry and The Pacemakers 1 1 2 1 2 9720
                          2 2 Do You Want To Know A Secret - Billy J. Kramer and The Dakotas 2 2 1 2 3 9690
                          1 3 From Me To You - The Beatles 3 3 3 4 1 9250
                          6 4 Take These Chains From My Heart - Ray Charles 5 4 4 5 8 8740
                          12 5 If You Gotta Make A Fool Of Somebody - Freddie and The Dreamers 4 4 5 3 7 8720
                          4 6 When Will You say I Love You - Billy Fury 6 6 7 6 4 8160
                          3 7 Scarlett O'Hara - Jet Harris and Tony Meehan 7 8 6 8 5 7980
                          18 8 Atlantis - The Shadows 9 6 10 7 12 7420
                          11 9 Deck Of Cards - Wink Martindale 10 9 8 10 9 7360
                          5 10 Lucky Lips - Cliff Richard 8 10 9 9 6 7250
                          9 11 In Dreams - Roy Orbison 11 12 11 11 10 6530
                          8 12 Two Kinds Of Teardrops - Del Shannon 12 14 12 14 13 5940
                          14 13 Falling - Roy Orbison 13= 13 14 12 17 5720
                          29 14 Bo Diddley - Buddy Holly 13= 11 16 13 16 5600
                          13 15 Young Lovers - Paul and Paula 15 15 15 16 11 5350
                          10 16 Can't Get Used To Losing You - Andy Williams 16 18 13 15 14 5310
                          15 17 Pipeline - The Chantays 19 20 17 19 19 4160
                          22 18 Forget Him - Bobby Rydell 17 19 19 17 18 4090
                          19 19 Nobody's Darlin But Mine - Frank Ifield 18 21 18 20 15 3980
                          24 20 The Ice Cream Man - The Tornados 20 16 21 18 25 3830
                          21 21 Harvest Of Love - Benny Hill 22 17 24 26 24 2910
                          17 22 How Do You Do It - Gerry and The Pacemakers 21 29 20 21 20 2680
                          20 23 From A Jack To A King - Ned Miller 23 22 24 22 1970
                          16 24 Losing You - Brenda Lee 24 23 28 21 1650
                          NEW 25 It's My Party - Lesley Gore 25= 22 23 1300
                          NEW 26 It's Been Nice - The Everly Brothers 25= 23 22 1250
                          26 27 Shy Girl - Mark Wynter 26 27 30 30 1180
                          28 28 Another Saturday Night - Sam Cooke 28 25 28 27 1170
                          23 29 He's So Fine - The Chiffons 27 25 23 1140
                          25 30 Casablanca - Kenny Ball 26 28 840
                          X Indian Love Call - Karl Denver 24 29 800
                          X Ain't That A Shame - The Four Seasons 29 26 25 800
                          30 Little Band Of Gold - James Gilreath 29 29 360
                          X Just Like Me - The Hollies 30 27 26 350
                          B Da Doo Ron Ron - The Crystals 28 300
                          My Way - Eddie Cochran 30 150
                          X She's New To You - Susan Maughan 30 100
                          27 Say I Won't Be There - The Springfields
                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                          • For the second time in a row Gerry comes from outside the top five to take #1, this time snatching it from the hands of The Beatles but at least Billy J gets a consolation prize successfully defending #2 forcing The Beatles down to #3. Liverpool is in dominating form holding all top three chart positions.

                            One of my all time favs debuts this week, pop music at it's infectious and endearing best, Lesley Gore's anthemic It's My Party. Wonderful pop record .
                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                            • But Manchester strikes back with Freddie and The Dreamers and The Hollies (pity they didn't make the Top 20 with their debut).

                              Strange that FMTY is still no. 1 in RR (7 weeks in total).

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                              • Originally posted by RokinRobinOfLocksley View Post
                                Interesting that From Me To You was such a monster hit in the UK, but here in the States it didn't do much of anything. As Beatlemania was raging in early 1964, 17 charted sides across 6 labels in the first 4 months, 5 of which made #1, FMTY only eked out a #41 showing. Granted it was the b-side of Please Please Me here, which got up to #3, so buyers of that record got both songs, but DJs were opting to play the many other Beatle records instead.

                                I don't even remember hearing FMTY on the radio. In fact, I didn't even know it existed until The Beatles Red Album 1962-66 was released in 1973. Capitol records had never released it on an LP even after they secured the rights back from Vee-Jay. Same thing with Misery and There's A Place, I didn't know they existed till the mid-70s, Capitol didn't release them on an LP until the US Rarities disc in 1980.

                                Far out...
                                The reason that early Beatles records were not doing so well, is down to Capitol Records. Even though it was owned by EMI, they were given control over what records were released in the USA. So much so they were simply catering to what was the taste and would be popular to American audiences only. Though they don't sound it these days the early Beatles songs were too suggestive sex wise and the USA was not really open to these kinds of songs. Capitol Records wouldn't put them out. So George Martin agreed to allow the smaller labels to put them out instead. So at least they would get some exposure. It wasn't until the Beatles came up with "I Wanna Hold Your Hand". Which wasn't considered to sexual, that Capitol agreed to issue the record. Resulting in the first number one in the USA.
                                Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                                • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                  Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 22nd 1963

                                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 22nd 1963 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                  Last This The Sound Survey Stores 100 150 50 30 Points
                                  Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                  1 1 I Like It - Gerry and The Pacemakers 1 1 1 1 1 9900
                                  5 2 If You Gotta Make A Fool Of Somebody - Freddie and The Dreamers 2 2 2 2 3 9540
                                  3 3 From Me To You - The Beatles 3 5 3 3 2 9070
                                  2 4 Do You Want To Know A Secret - Billy J. Kramer and The Dakotas 4 6 4 4 4 8710
                                  4 5 Take These Chains From My Heart - Ray Charles 5 4 5 5 6 8650
                                  8 6 Atlantis - The Shadows 6 3 6 6 9 8460
                                  6 7 When Will You Say I Love You - Billy Fury 7 7 7 8 5 7930
                                  9 8 Deck Of Cards - Wink Martindale 8 8 8 7 8 7640
                                  7 9 Scarlett O'Hara - Jet Harris and Tony Meehan 9 11 9 9 7 7120
                                  14 10 Bo Diddley - Buddy Holly 10 10 11 10 13 6690
                                  10 11 Lucky Lips - Cliff Richard 11 13 10 11 10 6580
                                  13 12 Falling - Roy Orbison 12 9 12 13 12 6520
                                  11 13 In Dreams - Roy Orbison 13 12 13 12 11 6150
                                  12 14 Two Kinds Of Teardrops - Del Shannon 14 17 14 15 15 5230
                                  18 15 Forget Him - Bobby Rydell 15 18 15 14 16 5000
                                  15 16 Young Lovers - Paul and Paula 16 15 18 19 17 4570
                                  16 17 Can't Get Used To Losing You - Andy Williams 17 21 16 18 14 4410
                                  20 18 The Ice Cream Man - The Tornados 18 19 19 16 22 4020
                                  17 19 Pipeline - The Chantays 19 23 17 21 25 3580
                                  25 20 It's My Party - Lesley Gore 21= 16 27 17 2800
                                  19 21 Nobody's Darlin' But Mine - Frank Ifield 20 28 20 26 18 2590
                                  NEW 22 Da Doo Ron Ron - The Crystals 23 14 20 2250
                                  22 23 How Do You Do It - Gerry and The Pacemakers 21= 21 24 19 2210
                                  21 24 Harvest Of Love - Benny Hill 24 28 22 27 20 2180
                                  NEW 25 Welcome To My World - Jim Reeves 25 19 28 25 26 2100
                                  27 26 Shy Girl - Mark Wynter 27 24 23 28 1990
                                  28 27 Another Saturday Night - Sam Cooke 26 26 25 23 1640
                                  23 28 From A Jack To A King - Ned Miller 28 24 21 1350
                                  NEW 29 Hey Mama - Frankie Vaughan 30= 22 29 1000
                                  24 30 Losing You - Brenda Lee 29 26 24 960
                                  B Rondo - Kenny Ball 25 28 750
                                  X Ain't That A Shame - The Four Seasons 30= 28 23 700
                                  X Indian Love Call - Karl Denver 26 30 550
                                  26 It's Been Nice - The Everly Brothers 28 30 450
                                  B Bobby Tomorrow - Bobby Vee 22 450
                                  X Just Like Me - The Hollies 29 27 420
                                  29 He's So Fine - The Chiffons 29 60
                                  30 Casablanca - Kenny Ball 30 30
                                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                  • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 29th 1963

                                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 29th 1963 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 100 150 50 30 Points
                                    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                    1 1 I Like It - Gerry and The Pacemakers 1 1 1 1 1 9900
                                    6 2 Atlantis - The Shadows 3 2 2 3 2 9520
                                    2 3 If You Gotta Make A Fool Of Somebody - Freddie and The Dreamers 2 3 3 2 3 9290
                                    5 4 Take These Chains From My Heart - Ray Charles 4 4 4 4 5 8880
                                    3 5 From Me To You - The Beatles 5 6 5 6 4 8460
                                    4 6 Do You Want To Know A Secret - Billy J. Kramer and The Dakotas 6 7 7 5 7 8020
                                    8 7 Deck Of Cards - Wink Martindale 7= 5 8 7 8 7940
                                    7 8 When Will You Say I Love You - Billy Fury 7= 8 6 9 10 7780
                                    10 9 Bo Diddley - Buddy Holly 9= 11 9 8 6 7200
                                    12 10 Falling - Roy Orbison 9= 9 10 10 9 7060
                                    15 11 Forget Him - Bobby Rydell 13 15 11 11 14 6110
                                    11 12 Lucky Lips - Cliff Richard 11 14 12 12 12 6070
                                    9 13 Scarlett O'Hara - Jet Harris and Tony Meehan 12 15 13 15 11 5700
                                    13 14 In Dreams - Roy Orbison 14 18 14 14 13 5240
                                    25 15 Welcome To My World - Jim Reeves 17= 17 16 17 15 4830
                                    22 16 Da Doo Ron Ron - The Crystals 21 12 19 18 17 4770
                                    20 17 It's My Party - Lesley Gore 20 13 18 16 24 4710
                                    18 18 The Ice Cream Man - The Tornados 16 19 15 19 18 4590
                                    NEW 19 Confessin' (That I Love You) - Frank Ifield 17= 10 22 13 23 4590
                                    14 20 Two Kinds Of Teardrops - Del Shannon 15 22 17 20 16 4000
                                    17 21 Can't Get Used To Losing You - Andy Williams 19 21 20 22 19 3460
                                    16 22 Young Lovers - Paul and Paula 24 23 24 25 20 2480
                                    NEW 23 Bobby Tomorrow - Bobby Vee 22 20 28 21 22 2320
                                    21 24 Nobody's Darlin' But Mine - Frank Ifield 23 30 21 21 1900
                                    NEW 25 Rondo - Kenny Ball 25= 25 27 28 28 1440
                                    24 26 The Harvest Of Love - Benny Hill 29= 23 1200
                                    19 27 Pipeline - The Chantays 27= 29 25 29 1200
                                    29 28 Hey Mama - Frankie Vaughan 25= 23 29 30 1130
                                    26 29 Shy Girl - Mark Wynter 26 26 1000
                                    NEW 30 Twist And Shout - The Isley Brothers 29= 27 27 600
                                    X Just Like Me - The Hollies 27= 23 25 580
                                    X Swing That Hammer - Mike Cotton's Jazzmen 26 500
                                    B Nature's Time For Love - Joe Brown 24 350
                                    B Sukiyaki - Kyu Sakamoto 28 300
                                    X It's Been Nice - the Everly Brothers 30 26 300
                                    23 How Do You Do It - Gerry and The Pacemakers 27 120
                                    27 Another Saturday Night - Sam Cooke 29 60
                                    X Ain't That A Shame - The Four Seasons 30 50
                                    28 From A Jack To A King - Ned Miller
                                    30 Losing You - Brenda Lee
                                    * The BBC chart is way out this week. Points don't correlate with chart positions.
                                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                    • Something very wrong at the BBC this week their points don't correlate with their chart positions.

                                      In comes Twist and Shout from The Isley Brothers, but their will be two bigger versions charting soon.
                                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                      • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
                                        Something very wrong at the BBC this week their points don't correlate with their chart positions.

                                        In comes Twist and Shout from The Isley Brothers, but their will be two bigger versions charting soon.
                                        If you took out Disc would the BBC points match this week? Thats all I can think thats happened - they removed a chart that they didn’t have in time.
                                        http://thechartbook.co.uk - for the latest are best chart book - By Decade!
                                        Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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                                        • 2 & 3 wrong way round in BBC whichever contributory chart you take out. There is no recording or listing of this or next week's POTP, so it has to be queried whether they did actually make such an obvious mistake.

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                                          • Yeah in the Top 10 alone, 2, 3, =7, =9, are all wrong. Even discounting RR which was the one that was late at times the points still don't tally to the BBC listing.
                                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                            • The top 14 of the POTP chart for 29/06/63 are largely (though not entirely due to joint positions) correct if the NME chart for the previous week is used and the current RR chart is ignored. The top 8 (including a joint number 7) definitely tally. The joint number 9 doesn't match (Falling is at number 10), 11 and 12 tally, there would be a joint number 13 (Forget Him and In Dreams) but after that there are a number of differences.

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                                              • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
                                                The top 14 of the POTP chart for 29/06/63 are largely (though not entirely due to joint positions) correct if the NME chart for the previous week is used and the current RR chart is ignored. The top 8 (including a joint number 7) definitely tally. The joint number 9 doesn't match (Falling is at number 10), 11 and 12 tally, there would be a joint number 13 (Forget Him and In Dreams) but after that there are a number of differences.
                                                It looks like the BBC messed up then for week of 29th June then.
                                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                                • This could have been one of the weeks that Derek Chinnery's daughter (a school child) added up the numbers for the BBC chart, per what Dave Taylor told some of us...

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