The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[Robbie]

Most likely that has been the case in the later decades, as it was reissued in 1991 (in a remixed version) and reached the top 40. But was it really also the better known side in 1962 (meaning that Disc and RR would have both got it very wrong)?

"Lovesick Blues" seems to have been the more popular song internationally in any case, charting in a few European countries and even the US (#44 in Billboard, #50 in Cash Box) where the sides of each single were separated based on airplay. "She Taught Me How to Yodel" doesn't appear to have made the charts in any other country. I prefer the former by far.

I was thinking that perhaps 'She Taught Me How To Yodel' may have been the better known side by the 80s. It's another single my mother owned and I have always been aware of 'Yodel' more than 'Lovesick Blues' so perhaps it was just a personal choice by my mother to play what is the B side. But I can remember hearing 'Yodel' on the radio back in the 70s and 80s so possibly by then the track was gaining in popularity.

[MrTibbs]

Thanks membranemusic. The POTP broadcasts have proved invaluable time and time again when we come across transcript errors. That said I had looked at the earlier BBC transcript rather than the updated version Robin referred to which corrected the error. The updated version is to hand now

[membranemusic]

Re this post and comment:
Here is yet another big omission for your attention on your copies of the BBC charts. Freddie and The Dreamers I'm Telling You Now, is completely missing from 10th August 1963. To me it looks like it should have been placed on the BBC chart as a new entry for that week as the points indicate such, but it was not. Then it is completely absent for the weeks 17th, 24th, and 31st on the transcript. It re-appears on 6th September.
Interesting. "I'm Telling You Now" is missing from the EARLY Dave/Trevor BBC files for Aug 1963, but shows up in the LATER file revisions, at #28, #12, #3, #2.

My notes on the broadcast at the time definitely had this record at #12, #3, #2, so someone must have missed it on the logs at that time, and then revised it....

[setg1]

'She Taught Me How To Yodel' is the much better known side of Frankie Ifield's single.

Most likely that has been the case in the later decades, as it was reissued in 1991 (in a remixed version) and reached the top 40. But was it really also the better known side in 1962 (meaning that Disc and RR would have both got it very wrong)?

"Lovesick Blues" seems to have been the more popular song internationally in any case, charting in a few European countries and even the US (#44 in Billboard, #50 in Cash Box) where the sides of each single were separated based on airplay. "She Taught Me How to Yodel" doesn't appear to have made the charts in any other country. I prefer the former by far.

[MrTibbs]

'She Taught Me How To Yodel' is the much better known side of Frankie Ifield's single. Was it listed as a AA side on Record Retailer? On polyhex.com only 'Lovesick Blues' is listed and I think it may have been the same in the Guinness Book Of British Hit Singles.

NME, as you can see, listed it as split sides and MM also listed it as a double 'A' side. Neither Disc or RR did though both of those just listing Lovesick Blues which I think was the main release side.

[Robbie]

'She Taught Me How To Yodel' is the much better known side of Frankie Ifield's single. Was it listed as a AA side on Record Retailer? On polyhex.com only 'Lovesick Blues' is listed and I think it may have been the same in the Guinness Book Of British Hit Singles.

[MrTibbs]

WOT!! No Beatles this week? One hit wonder?

Don't worry Brian lol, they will be back .. very soon

[brian05]

WOT!! No Beatles this week? One hit wonder?

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending November 3rd 1962

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending November 3rd 1962								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Telstar - The Tornados					1	1	1	1	1	8100
7	2	Let's Dance - Chris Montez					2	2	4	3	2	7560
2	3	The Loco-Motion - Little Eva					3	4	2	4	3	7540
14	4	Lovesick Blues / She Taught Me How To Yodel - Frank Ifield					4	2	7	2	5	7190
6	5	Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter					5	5	5	6	4	7000
3	6	Sheila - Tommy Roe					6=	8	3	5	9	6880
4	7	It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King					6=	6	6	7	6	6700
5	8	Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole					8	9	8	8	7	6160
11	9	The Swiss Maid - Del Shannon					9	7	9	9	8	6130
12	10	Sherry - The Four Seasons					10	10	10	11	11	5590
9	11	What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey					11	11	11	10	13	5390
8	12	You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles					13	13	12	12	14	4990
15	13	Devil Woman - Marty Robbins					12	12	13	13	12	4970
10	14	She's Not You - Elvis Presley					14	14	14	15	10	4660
23	15	Bobby's Girl - Susan Maughan					15	15	18	14	17	3980
16	16	I Remember You - Frank Ifield					16	19	16	17	18	3700
17	17	Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk					17=	20	17	19	16	3470
26	18	No One Can Make My Sunshine Smile - The Everly Brothers					17=	15	21	16	20	3460
13	19	It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard					19	25	15	18	15	3370
19	20	It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee					22		19	24	19	2030
18	21	Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith					23		20	21	23	1950
21	22	Send Me The Pillow That You Dream On - Johnny Tillotson					21	22	27	22	21	1910
NEW	23	Oh Lonesome Me - Craig Douglas					20	25	25	23	24	1750
30	24	Because Of Love - Billy Fury					24=	23	28	20	25	1700
NEW	25	Kid Galahad (EP) - Elvis Presley					24=	18		25		1340
NEW	26	Sun Arise - Rolf Harris					27	21	30	26		1160
20	27	Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll					26		23		22	1150
22	28	If A Man Answers - Bobby Darin					28=		22		28	1080
25	29	Reminiscing - Buddy Holly					28=		24		26	920
NEW	30	The 'James Bond' Theme - John Barry						23				640
		She Taught Me How To Yodel - Frank Ifield						17
24		Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland							26		29	610
28		The Pay-Off - Kenny Ball					30	28			27	360
X		Keep Away From Other Girls - Helen Shapiro						27				320
27		Things - Bobby Darin							29			220
X		Ever Since You Said Goodbye - Marty Wilde								27		200
X		If Only Tomorrow - Ronnie Carroll						29				160
X		Warmed Over Kisses - Brian Hyland						29				160
B		Must Be Madison - Joe Loss								28		150
B		Love Me Tender - Richard Chamberlain								29		100
X		Limbo Rock - Chubby Checker								30		50
29		Guitar Tango - The Shadows									30	30

[MrTibbs]

Look who from Liverpool is 'Breaking' this week. Looks like they are about to happen

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 27th 1962

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 27th 1962								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Telstar - The Tornados					1	1	1	1	1	8100
2	2	The Loco-Motion - Little Eva					2	2	2	2	2	7830
3	3	Sheila - Tommy Roe					3	3	4	3	3	7450
4	4	It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King					4	5	3	4	4	7320
6	5	Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole					5	4	6	5	5	6990
10	6	Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter					6	6	5	7	6	6810
13	7	Let's Dance - Chris Montez					7	7	8	6	7	6420
7	8	You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles					9	9	7	10	12	6020
9	9	What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey					8	10	9	9	8	5890
5	10	She's Not You - Elvis Presley					10	13	10	11	9	5410
19	11	The Swiss Maid - Del Shannon					11	11	13	13	10	5110
16	12	Sherry - The Four Seasons					12=	12	12	12	15	5040
8	13	It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard					14	15	11	14	11	4930
NEW	14	Lovesick Blues / She Taught Me How To Yodel - Frank Ifield					12=	8	19	8	16	4760
21	15	Devil Woman - Marty Robbins					15	14	16	15	13	4350
11	16	I Remember You - Frank Ifield					16	17	14	16	14	4250
15	17	Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk					17	18	15	17	17	3920
12	18	Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith					18	20	17	18	20	3400
14	19	It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee					19	21	18	19	18	3220
18	20	Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll					20	29	21	22	19	2070
26	21	Send Me The Pillow That You Dream On - Johnny Tillotson					21	22	26	20	26	1970
25	22	If A Man Answers - Bobby Darin					23=	24	24	26	24	1790
29	23	Bobby's Girl - Susan Maughan					22	25	25	23	23	1780
17	24	Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland					25		20	24	25	1740
22	25	Reminiscing - Buddy Holly					23=	28	22	27	21	1730
NEW	26	No One Can Make My Sunshine Smile - The Everly Brothers					27	19		21	30	1490
20	27	Things - Bobby Darin					26		23	25	22	1450
30	28	The Pay-Off - Kenny Ball					28	23			29	700
23	29	Guitar Tango - The Shadows					29		27		27	560
NEW	30	Because Of Love - Billy Fury						26		29		500
		She Taught Me How To Yodel - Frank Ifield						16
27		Will I What - Mike Sarne							28			330
B		Love Me Do - The Beatles						27				320
B		Oh Lonesome Me - Craig Douglas					30			28	28	240
24		Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka							29			220
28		Theme From 'The Man With The Golden Gun' / Some People - Jet Harris							30			110
B		The 'James Bond' Theme - John Barry						30				80
X		Ever Since You Said Goodbye - Marty Wilde								30		50
		B - Will Chart
		X - Won't Chart

[Graham76man]

1972 proved to be a good year for sixties re-issues, off the top of my head it also benefited Little Eva, Mary Wells, Procol Harum, The Drifters, B. Bumble and The Stingers, The Shangri Las, Roy C.

In fact if you look at the 70's label site, (link below) which lists record labels by cat number in order, it becomes clear that record labels were always re-issuing records. Most simply didn't sell enough to make the charts.
https://www.7tt77.co.uk/
1976 was another year they went mad on. Notably when the Beatles singles were re-issued.
In many ways it was just easy money for the record companies since they didn't have any recording costs. Plus they were often used on TV adverts.

[MrTibbs]

The Tornados continue to hold everything at bay, Little Eva will be stopped in her tracks, Cliff realises It Won't Be Him, and in comes Del Shannon with my personal favourite of his, The Swiss Maid, a great pop record.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 20th 1962

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 20th 1962								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Telstar - The Tornados					1	1	1	1	1	8100
4	2	The Loco-Motion - Little Eva					2	2	3	2	2	7720
2	3	Sheila - Tommy Roe					3	4	2	3	4	7560
5	4	It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King					4	3	4	4	3	7400
3	5	She's Not You - Elvis Presley					5	7	5	5	6	6830
11	6	Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole					6	5	8	7	7	6530
7	7	You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles					8	6	7	8	10	6420
6	8	It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard					9	9	6	9	9	6270
9	9	What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey					7	10	9	6	5	6130
17	10	Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter					10	8	11	10	11	5690
8	11	I Remember You - Frank Ifield					11	13	10	11	8	5440
10	12	Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith					12	14	12	12	12	4970
27	13	Let's Dance - Chris Montez					13	11	16	13	13	4690
15	14	It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee					16	17	13	15	17	4320
19	15	Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk					14	15	15	16	14	4300
23	16	Sherry - The Four Seasons					15	12	19	14	15	4170
12	17	Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland					19	20	14	19	20	3680
13	18	Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll					17	18	17	18	16	3680
NEW	19	The Swiss Maid - Del Shannon					18	16	23	17	19	3140
14	20	Things - Bobby Darin					20	22	18	21	18	3040
29	21	Devil Woman - Marty Robbins					21	19	24	20	21	2580
18	22	Reminiscing - Buddy Holly					22	26	20	22	22	2330
20	23	Guitar Tango - The Shadows					24	24	22	26	25	1980
16	24	Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka					23	27	21	25	23	1960
NEW	25	If A Man Answers - Bobby Darin					25	21	29	27	26	1370
NEW	26	Send Me The Pillow That You Dream On - Johnny Tillotson					26	23		24	27	1110
25	27	Will I What - Mike Sarne					27		26	29	24	860
22	28	Theme From ' The Man With The Golden Gun' / Some People - Jet Harris					29		25		29	720
NEW	29	Bobby's Girl - Susan Maughan					28	28		23		640
NEW	30	The Pay-Off - Kenny Ball					30	25				480
21		Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone							27			440
26		Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice							28		30	360
28		Some People - Carol Deene					30			28	28	240
24		Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy						30	30			190
30		Blue Weekend - Karl Denver						29				160
X		He Got What He Wanted - Little Richard								30		50
		B - Will Chart
		X - Won't Chart

[MrTibbs]

1972 proved to be a good year for sixties re-issues, off the top of my head it also benefited Little Eva, Mary Wells, Procol Harum, The Drifters, B. Bumble and The Stingers, The Shangri Las, Roy C.

[MrTibbs]

Hmmmmm I wonder too Woz lol. Or maybe I already know

[Woz1234]

Somebody this week [13/10/62] was making their debut in the RR chart @ #49 I'll wonder who that can be?

In a week or 2 [or days when you're posted the UAC] I'll wonder where they'll get to?

[Metalweb]

'Let's Dance' is a classic. My mum owned the record and I recall hearing the song many times as a youngster. The song has a late 50s vibe / sound to it though, I keep forgetting its from 1962.

I first heard 'Let's Dance' when it was a hit again in '72.

It sounded great even then!

[Robbie]

'Let's Dance' is a classic. My mum owned the record and I recall hearing the song many times as a youngster. The song has a late 50s vibe / sound to it though, I keep forgetting its from 1962.

[MrTibbs]

Although challenging for the top position Tommy Roe will have to wait another 6 years to finally achieve this.

Two cracking new entries this week. Chris Montez with the timeless Let's Dance, and The Four Seasons with Sherry, loved it then and love it now. Bellissimo

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 13th 1962

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 13th 1962								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Telstar - The Tornados					1	1	1	1	1	8100
4	2	Sheila - Tommy Roe					2	2	3	2	3	7690
2	3	She's Not You - Elvis Presley					3=	5	2	3	5	7450
5	4	The Loco-Motion - Little Eva					3=	4	4	5	2	7300
8	5	It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King					5	3	5	4	4	7260
3	6	It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard					6	6	6	6	6	6750
10	7	You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles					7	7	8	7	9	6310
6	8	I Remember You - Frank Ifield					8	10	7	8	8	6160
14	9	What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey					9	9	11	10	7	5730
9	10	Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith					11	12	9	12	10	5520
17	11	Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole					10	8	13	9	11	5520
7	12	Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland					12	13	10	11	14	5260
11	13	Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll					13	14	12	13	12	4920
12	14	Things - Bobby Darin					14	18	14	14	13	4300
15	15	It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee					15	16	16	15	15	4130
13	16	Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka					16	17	15	17	16	4030
27	17	Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter					17	11	24	16	22	3390
18	18	Reminiscing - Buddy Holly					18	22	17	18	17	3330
23	19	Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk					19	15	22	19	20	3200
16	20	Guitar Tango - The Shadows					20	20	18	20	23	3100
19	21	Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone					21	26	21	22	19	2310
20	22	Theme From 'The Man With The Golden Arm' / Some People - Jet Harris					22	29	20	24	18	2110
NEW	23	Sherry - The Four Seasons					23	19	28	21	25	1970
21	24	Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy					25	21	23	28	29	1890
22	25	Will I What - Mike Sarne					27		19	29	27	1540
26	26	Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice					26	24	25	30	24	1480
NEW	27	Let's Dance - Chris Montez					24	23		23	21	1340
25	28	Some People - Carol Deene					28=		26	25	28	940
NEW	29	Devil Woman - Marty Robbins					28=	27		26	26	720
NEW	30	Blue Weekend - Karl Denver					30	25				480
24		Pick A Bale Of Cotton - Lonnie Donegan							27			440
B		If A Man Answers - Bobby Darin						28			30	270
28		Your Tender Look - Joe Brown							29			220
B		Send Me The Pillow That You Dream On - Johnny Tillotson								27		200
29		Once Upon A Dream - Billy Fury							30			110
B		The Swiss Maid - Del Shannon						30				80
30		So Do I - Kenny Ball
		B - Will Chart
		X - Won't Chart

[kingofskiffle]

Ah Telstar a lovely track and one of the few instrumental number one records.

[MrTibbs]

From this week you will note that DISC now also compile a Top 30, in line with this the BBC also start to compile a Top 30 although they would not refer to this for another five years continuing to only relate to a Top 20.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 6th 1962

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 6th 1962								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
3	1	Telstar - The Tornados					1	1	1	1	1	8100
1	2	She's Not You - Elvis Presley					2	2	2	2	2	7830
2	3	It'll Be Me - Cliff Richard					3	3	3	3	3	7560
6	4	Sheila - Tommy Roe					4	4	4	4	4	7290
11	5	The Loco-Motion - Little Eva					5	6	5	5	5	6940
4	6	I Remember You - Frank Ifield					6	7	6	6	8	6610
8	7	Sealed With A Kiss - Brian Hyland					7	9	7	8	7	6270
21	8	It Might As Well Rain Until September - Carole King					8	4	13	10	6	5940
10	9	Don't That Beat All - Adam Faith					10	10	8	12	10	5790
13	10	You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles					9	8	12	9	9	5690
5	11	Roses Are Red - Ronnie Carroll					11	14	10	7	11	5470
7	12	Things - Bobby Darin					12	11	11	13	12	5270
9	13	Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka					13	15	9	11	14	5210
15	14	What Now My Love - Shirley Bassey					14	12	15	14	13	4670
20	15	It Started All Over Again - Brenda Lee					16	17	16	18	16	3870
12	16	Guitar Tango - The Shadows					15	23	14	15	15	3790
25	17	Ramblin' Rose - Nat King Cole					18	13	22	17	19	3490
18	18	Reminiscing - Buddy Holly					19	18	19	20	18	3300
14	19	Speedy Gonzales - Pat Boone					17	20	20	16	17	3260
16	20	Theme From 'The Man With The Golden Gun' / Some People - Jet Harris					21	22	17	24	20	2940
17	21	Ballad Of Paladin - Duane Eddy					22	19	18	25	23	2930
19	22	Will I What - Mike Sarne					23	25	21	22	22	2300
28	23	Lonely - Mr. Acker Bilk					20	16	29	19	27	2140
22	24	Pick A Bale Of Cotton - Lonnie Donegan					24	23	23	27	24	1930
26	25	Some People - Carol Deene					25	26	26	23	25	1530
24	26	Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice					26	27	24	30	21	1440
NEW	27	Venus In Blue Jeans - Mark Wynter					27	21		26		1050
NEW	28	Your Tender Look - Joe Brown					28		28	21		830
23	29	Once Upon A Dream - Billy Fury					29		25		26	810
27	30	So Do I - Kenny Ball							27			440
X		Hercules - Frankie Vaughan						27				320
		Adios Amigo - Jim Reeves					30		29		28	310
X		Puff (Up In Smoke) - Kenny Lynch						29				160
X		Cry Myself To Sleep - Del Shannon								29	29	160
B		Sherry - The Four Seasons								28		150
B		Blue Weekend - Karl Denver						30				80
		Dancin' Party - Chubby Checker									30	30
29		I Can't Stop Loving You - Ray Charles
30		Let There Be Love - Nat King Cole with George Shearing

[MrTibbs]

After a decade of regular visits to the chart Nat King Cole debuts with his last chart hit, and one of his best remembered.

Mr. Acker Bilk after huge success with 'Stranger' decides to have another go with a smooth lush ballad and charts with 'Lonely'