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  • The aforementioned and infamous Wet Dream from Max Romeo enters this week keep an eye on its strange BMRB chart pattern.

    As a teen I bought this sneakily back in '69 and played it to friends when I believed the house to be empty. However my father had been around and on hearing the lyrics and us singing along he promptly without saying a word entered the room took the record off, broke it in two and threw it in the bin.
    The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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    • Yes it suddenly lunges drunkenly to number 10 (causing Freeman embarrassment!) but with a record that is not played on the radio it is perhaps understandable that its path is not a perfect bell curve.

      In MM it goes up, down, up, down, up, down, up, down, up, down.

      In NME it goes up, down, up, down, up, down.

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      • Yeah that in itself isnt all that unusual it was the inexplicable leap from outside the top thirty all the way up to no 10 after weeks of just floating around that raised eyebrows.
        The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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        • I think it went from 30 to 10. 15/30/10/13/18.


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          • Originally posted by Splodj View Post
            I think it went from 30 to 10. 15/30/10/13/18.

            That's a really weird pattern by any standard, 15, 30, 10 and back to 13.

            The BMRB chart does settle down more in 1970. Thus far just one strange movement way out of touch with the other two charts.
            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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            • Greetings Pop Pickers !

              Here is the Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 28th 1969

              The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 28th 1969 NME MM BMRB Total
              Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
              Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
              1 1 The Ballad Of John And Yoko - The Beatles 1 1 1 16050
              2 2 Oh Happy Day - The Edwin Hawkins Singers 2 2 2 15515
              10 3 Living In The Past - Jethro Tull 3 5 3 14480
              4 4 Time Is Tight - Booker T. and The MG's 4 4 4 14445
              3 5 Dizzy - Tommy Roe 6 3 6 14125
              18 6 In The Ghetto - Elvis Presley 5 6 5 13660
              25 7 Something In The Air - Thunderclap Newman 7 7 7 12840
              12 8 Big Ship - Cliff Richard 8 8 11 12050
              13 9 I'd Rather Go Blind - Chicken Shack 11 9 17 10690
              9 10 Higher And Higher - Jackie Wilson 9 13 13 10430
              17 11 Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival 14 11 9 10270
              5 12 Get Back - The Beatles 10 12 18 10055
              26 13 A Way Of Life - The Family Dogg 14 10 15 10010
              11 14 Tracks Of My Tears - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 12 17 10 9085
              22 15 Breakaway - The Beach Boys 16 15 8 8955
              6 16 My Way - Frank Sinatra 13 14 21 8700
              8 17 The Boxer - Simon and Garfunkel 18 16 23 7030
              7 18 Man Of The World - Fleetwood Mac 17 18 22 6815
              19 19 Frozen Orange Juice - Peter Sarstedt 19 20 12 6765
              16 20 Gimme Gimme Good Lovin' - Crazy Elephant 20 19 14 6645
              27 21 Lights Of Cincinnati - Scott Walker 21 21 20 5435
              14 22 Love Me Tonight - Tom Jones 22 22 29 4220
              21 23 Galveston - Glen Campbell 25 24 25 3460
              NEW 24 Baby Make It Soon - The Marmalade 24 25 27 3240
              15 25 Ragamuffin Man - Manfred Mann 29 23 26 2825
              30 26 Wet Dream - Max Romeo 23 27 2600
              20 27 Dick-A-Dum-Dum - Des O'Connor 26 26 30 2335
              29 28 Tomorrow Tomorrow - The Bee Gees 28 28 24 1945
              NEW 29 Hello Susie - Amen Corner 27 30 28 1305
              NEW 30 What Is A Man - The Four Tops 16 1275
              Happy Heart - Andy Williams 19 1020
              24 Behind A Painted Smile - The Isley Brothers 29 500
              X Without Her - Herb Alpert 30 200
              23 My Sentimental Friend - Herman's Hermits
              28 Aquarius/Let The Sunshine In - The Fifth Dimension
              The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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              • The Sound Of Summer 1969 leaps into the top ten this week, the wonderful Something In The Air from Thunderclap Newman. Just in front is Elvis leaping 12 places. The race is on !
                The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                • 'Something In The Air' is a great song. When I first got into music and charts around 1974 it was a record that was still played a lot as an oldie. Song producer is Pete Townshend who also plays bass on the single (under the unlikely band member name of Bijou Drains!).

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                  • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
                    'Something In The Air' is a great song. When I first got into music and charts around 1974 it was a record that was still played a lot as an oldie. Song producer is Pete Townshend who also plays bass on the single (under the unlikely band member name of Bijou Drains!).
                    I used to have a copy of Speedy Keen's excellent solo single 'Someone To Love' which came out around '74 or 5.

                    Got plenty of airplay but surprisingly didn't chart....

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                    • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                      Here is the Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 5th 1969

                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 5th 1969 NME MM BMRB Total
                      Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 Points
                      Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                      7 1 Something In The Air - Thunderclap Newman 1 3 1 16000
                      6 2 In The Ghetto - Elvis Presley 2 2 2 15950
                      1 3 The Ballad Of John And Yoko - The Beatles 3 1 3 15900
                      3 4 Living In The Past - Jethro Tull 4 4 4 14850
                      2 5 Oh Happy Day - The Edwin Hawkins Singers 5 5 5 14300
                      4 6 Time Is Tight - Booker T. and The MG's 6 6 6 13750
                      13 7 A Way Of Life - The Family Dogg 7 8 8 12850
                      15 8 Breakaway - The Beach Boys 9 7 7 12800
                      11 9 Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival 8 10 9 12050
                      5 10 Dizzy - Tommy Roe 10 9 13 11500
                      19 11 Frozen Orange Juice - Peter Sarstedt 11 11 10 11100
                      8 12 Big Ship - Cliff Richard 12 12 11 10550
                      10 13 Higher And Higher - Jackie Wilson 13 14 17 9250
                      9 14 I'd Rather Go Blind - Chicken Shack 14 13 18 9200
                      14 15 Tracks Of My Tears - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 16 15 16 8500
                      21 16 Lights Of Cincinnati - Scott Walker 16 16 14 8450
                      29 17 Hello Susie - Amen Corner 15 17 15 8300
                      20 18 Gimme Gimme Good Lovin' - Crazy Elephant 18 18 12 7750
                      12 19 Get Back - The Beatles 21 19 21 6000
                      24 20 Baby Make It Soon - The Marmalade 20 21 19 5900
                      16 21 My Way - Frank Sinatra 23 20 20 5450
                      30 22 What Is A Man - The Four Tops 19 22 24 5350
                      18 23 Man Of The World - Fleetwood Mac 26 24 23 3550
                      RE 24 Happy Heart - Andy Williams 25 25 25 3300
                      17 25 The Boxer - Simon and Garfunkel 23 22 2900
                      26 26 Wet Dream - Max Romeo 22 27 2800
                      NEW 27 It Mek - Desmond Dekker and The Aces 24 30 27 2050
                      22 28 Love Me Tonight - Tom Jones 28 29 28 1400
                      28 29 Tomorrow Tomorrow - The Bee Gees 26 1250
                      23 30 Galveston - Glen Campbell 28 26 1250
                      B It's Your Thing - The Isley Brothers 27 800
                      B Make Me An Island - Joe Dolan 28 600
                      X Good Lovin' Ain't Easy To Come By - Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell 29 200
                      X Without Her - Herb Alpert 30 200
                      X Born To Be Wild - Steppenwolf 30 100
                      25 Ragamuffin Man - Manfred Mann
                      27 Dick-A-Dum-Dum - Des O'Connor
                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                      • Talking of Pete Townsend ... in a recent interview he complained bitterly (as he did at the time) that 'I Can See For Miles', which he deems his best song, charted so badly in the UK compared with the USA. But in fact it peaked on Billboard at 9, so there was not much difference.

                        (In my view the USA release was superior anyway because it has the tremolo effect version of Mary Anne on the B-side!)

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                        • TV show 'Pop Charts Britannia' being shown again tonight - BBC Four at 9pm.

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                          • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                            Here is the Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 12th 1969

                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 12th 1969 NME MM BMRB Total
                            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 Points
                            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                            1 1 Something In The Air - Thunderclap Newman 1 1 1 16500
                            2 2 In The Ghetto - Elvis Presley 2 2 2 15950
                            3 3 The Ballad Of John And Yoko - The Beatles 5 3 3 15000
                            7 4 A Way Of Life - The Family Dogg 3 4 7 14750
                            4 5 Living In The Past - Jethro Tull 4 5 5 14500
                            8 6 Breakaway - The Beach Boys 6 6 6 13750
                            17 7 Hello Susie - Amen Corner 6 9 4 13200
                            6 8 Time Is Tight - Booker T. and The MG's 8 7 10 12700
                            5 9 Oh Happy Day - The Edwin Hawkins Singers 9 8 11 12150
                            9 10 Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival 10 10 8 11750
                            11 11 Frozen Orange Juice - Peter Sarstedt 11 11 12 10900
                            16 12 Lights Of Cincinnati - Scott Walker 12 13 13 10100
                            18 13 Gimme Gimme Good Lovin' - Crazy Elephant 13 14 14 9550
                            10 14 Dizzy - Tommy Roe 14 12 19 9350
                            12 15 Big Ship - Cliff Richard 16 16 15 8350
                            20 16 Baby Make It Soon - The Marmalade 17 15 18 8100
                            NEW 17 Honky Tonk Women - The Rolling Stones 15 22 9 7650
                            27 18 It Mek - Desmond Dekker and The Aces 18 17 16 7600
                            14 19 I'd Rather Go Blind - Chicken Shack 20 18 22 6350
                            22 20 What Is A Man - The Four Tops 22 20 17 5950
                            NEW 21 That's The Way God Planned It - Billy Preston 19 23 20 5500
                            13 22 Higher And Higher - Jackie Wilson 21 19 28 5300
                            15 23 Tracks Of My Tears - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 24 21 24 4600
                            NEW 24 Give Peace A Chance - The Plastic Ono Band 22 30 21 3050
                            21 25 My Way - Frank Sinatra 27 26 27 2450
                            26 26 Wet Dream - Max Romeo 27 25 2300
                            24 27 Happy Heart - Andy Williams 24 1750
                            29 28 Tomorrow Tomorrow - The Bee Gees 28 23 1550
                            19 29 Get Back - The Beatles 27 26 1500
                            NEW 30 It's Your Thing - The Isley Brothers 25 1201
                            B Make Me An Island - Joe Dolan 26 29 1200
                            B Saved By The Bell - Robin Gibb 30 25 800
                            25 The Boxer - Simon and Garfunkel 29 500
                            B When Two Worlds Collide - Jim Reeves 29 30 500
                            B Conversations - Cilla Black 30 200
                            23 Man Of The World - Fleetwood Mac
                            28 Love Me Tonight - Tom Jones
                            30 Galveston - Glen Campbell
                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                            • In an idle moment I have roughly calculated how may bona fide, or purportedly bona fide UK national record charts have been published or broadcast from 1940 to the present day.
                              I should emphasise this is a subjective estimation, but I have excluded regional charts, genre charts, personal charts, label adverts, and print-duplications.

                              Singles and EP charts: 12,498
                              [12-inch singles and realtones were eligible for the singles chart, so not included]

                              Album charts: 10,347
                              [including compilations and budget price; music videos excluded]

                              Airplay/exposure/streaming-only: 6,150
                              [many regional charts not included]

                              Making an all-time total to date of 28,995 charts published or broadcast.

                              No surprise that top of the heap was:
                              RR/MW/OCC 38.5% of the total

                              In at No.2: Melody Maker: 11.7%

                              Just pipping NME at: 11%, despite NME starting years earlier.

                              Crashing in at No.4, a surprising:
                              Cashbox 7.8%
                              [having spent 3 decades being rigorously published a week later in another country….]

                              A respectable No. 5 for:
                              MRIB: 6.7%

                              If each chart was printed on an A4 sheet (subjective), and stuck on a scroll, it would have a length of 5 miles and 704 yards.
                              Of course, this forum has debunked 9 years of the RR chart, as well as Cashbox, which goes to show that the UAC is entirely necessary, and that quality and not quantity is the main thing.

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                              • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                Here is the Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 19th 1969

                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 19th 1969 NME MM BMRB Total
                                Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 Points
                                Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                                2 1 In The Ghetto - Elvis Presley 1 1 2 16400
                                1 2 Something In The Air - Thunderclap Newman 2 2 1 16050
                                17 3 Honky Tonk Women - The Rolling Stones 3 4 3 15150
                                7 4 Hello Susie - Amen Corner 4 3 5 15000
                                4 5 A Way Of Life - The Family Dogg 5 5 6 14200
                                6 6 Breakaway - The Beach Boys 6 7 8 13300
                                24 7 Give Peace A Chance - The Plastic Ono Band 7 9 4 13000
                                3 8 The Ballad Of John And Yoko - The Beatles 8 6 11 12850
                                5 9 Living In The Past - Jethro Tull 11 8 12 11650
                                10 10 Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival 10 11 10 11300
                                16 11 Baby Make It Soon - The Marmalade 13 13 9 10300
                                21 12 That's The Way God Planned It - Billy Preston 9 14 15 10250
                                18 13 It Mek - Desmond Dekker and The Aces 12 15 7 10200
                                8 14 Time Is Tight - Booker T. and The MG's 14 10 17 10050
                                9 15 Oh Happy Day - The Edwin Hawkins Singers 17 12 20 8650
                                11 16 Frozen Orange Juice - Peter Sarstedt 15 16 14 8650
                                12 17 Lights Of Cincinnati - Scott Walker 18 17 13 7900
                                13 18 Gimme Gimme Good Lovin' - Crazy Elephant 16 18 16 7750
                                14 19 Dizzy - Tommy Roe 22 19 22 5700
                                NEW 20 Saved By The Bell - Robin Gibb 19 23 18 5700
                                20 21 What Is A Man - The Four Tops 20 20 4950
                                26 22 Wet Dream - Max Romeo 21 25 21 4500
                                15 23 Big Ship - Cliff Richard 23 21 4100
                                NEW 24 Conversations - Cilla Black 24 26 24 3350
                                NEW 25 Make Me An Island - Joe Dolan 27 27 19 3000
                                NEW 26 Goodnight Midnight - Clodagh Rodgers 26 28 23 2550
                                19 27 I'd Rather Go Blind - Chicken Shack 22 2250
                                23 28 Tracks Of My Tears - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 24 1750
                                30 29 It's Your Thing - The Isley Brothers 25 30 1300
                                NEW 30 Barabajagal - Donovan and The Jeff Beck Group 29 25 1000
                                29 Get Back - The Beatles 30 27 650
                                22 Higher And Higher - Jackie Wilson 29 500
                                B When Two World Collide - Jim Reeves 28 600
                                X Good Lovin' Ain't Easy To Come By - Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell 26 500
                                B My Cherie Amour - Stevie Wonder 30 29 400
                                25 My Way - Frank Sinatra 28 300
                                27 Happy Heart - Andy Williams
                                28 Tomorrow Tomorrow - The Bee Gees
                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                                • Ha Ha, 450 stores go with Elvis this week so it must have been a close call for the top but it will be short lived as the Rolling Stones are poised to capture the top next week.

                                  Amen Corner enjoy their last hit before they break up later in the year. Before doing so they will record and issue a cover of The Beatles' Get Back. I always thought this was a strange choice for their final single.
                                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                                  • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                    Here is the Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 26th 1969

                                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 26th 1969 NME MM BMRB Total
                                    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 Points
                                    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                                    3 1 Honky Tonk Women - The Rolling Stones 1 1 1 16500
                                    1 2 In The Ghetto - Elvis Presley 2 2 4 15750
                                    7 3 Give Peace A Chance - The Plastic Ono Band 3 3 2 15500
                                    2 4 Something In The Air - Thunderclap Newman 4 4 3 14950
                                    4 5 Hello Susie - Amen Corner 5 5 6 14200
                                    5 6 A Way Of Life - The Family Dogg 8 6 10 12950
                                    12 7 That's The Way God Planned It - Billy Preston 6 7 12 12900
                                    20 8 Saved By The Bell - Robin Gibb 7 11 5 12400
                                    13 9 It Mek - Desmond Dekker and The Aces 9 10 7 12050
                                    11 10 Baby Make It Soon - The Marmalade 10 9 9 11900
                                    6 11 Breakaway - The Beach Boys 11 8 11 11750
                                    10 12 Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival 12 12 13 10350
                                    8 13 The Ballad Of John And Yoko - The Beatles 13 13 15 9700
                                    26 14 Goodnight Midnight - Clodagh Rodgers 16 16 8 9050
                                    17 15 Lights Of Cincinnati - Scott Walker 14 18 14 8350
                                    14 16 Time Is Tight - Booker T. and The MG's 18 14 19 8050
                                    9 17 Living In The Past - Jethro Tull 15 15 23 8000
                                    25 18 Make Me An Island - Joe Dolan 18 17 16 7600
                                    18 19 Gimme Gimme Good Lovin' - Crazy Elephant 17 21 17 6700
                                    16 20 Frozen Orange Juice - Peter Sarstedt 21 19 28 5300
                                    24 21 Conversations - Cilla Black 20 24 20 5050
                                    15 22 Oh Happy Day - The Edwin Hawkins Singers 26 20 24 4450
                                    30 23 Barabajagal - Donovan and The Jeff Beck Group 27 22 18 4350
                                    NEW 24 My Cherie Amour - Stevie Wonder 22 25 22 4200
                                    22 25 Wet Dream - Max Romeo 24 23 3400
                                    21 26 What Is A Man - The Four Tops 28 26 21 2850
                                    NEW 27 When Two Worlds Collide - Jim Reeves 23 28 27 2750
                                    NEW 28 I Can Sing A Rainbow/Love Is Blue - The Dells 25 30 30 1550
                                    19 29 Dizzy - Tommy Roe 27 26 1500
                                    NEW 30 Bringing On Back The Good Times - The Love Affair 30 29 25 1300
                                    29 It's Your Thing - The Isley Brothers 29 400
                                    B Peaceful - Georgie Fame 29 200
                                    23 Big Ship - Cliff Richard
                                    27 I'd Rather Go Blind - ChIcken Shack
                                    28 Tracks Of My Tears - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles
                                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                                    • The last number 1 for The Beatles a few weeks ago is soon followed by the last number 1 for The Rolling Stones. The 1960s were definitely drawing to a close, in more ways than one. Elvis, displaced here by The Stones, would at least have another number 1 in his lifetime, and into the 1970s, though.

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                                      • The end of the sixties actually drew a line under many successful sixties acts whose career would either vanish or diminish by the start of the new decade. Many however, and sometimes the least expected, will flourish, adapt, and go onto greater things.
                                        There are some interesting charts ahead, one in particular in December.
                                        The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                                        • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
                                          The last number 1 for The Beatles a few weeks ago is soon followed by the last number 1 for The Rolling Stones. The 1960s were definitely drawing to a close, in more ways than one. Elvis, displaced here by The Stones, would at least have another number 1 in his lifetime, and into the 1970s, though.
                                          It's ironic that the rather awful 'The Wonder Of You' reached the top while both 'Let It Be' and 'Brown Sugar' fell short!

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                                          • Greetings Chartologists !

                                            Here is the Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 2nd 1969

                                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 2nd 1969 NME MM BMRB Total
                                            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 Points
                                            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                                            1 1 Honky Tonk Women - The Rolling Stones 1 1 1 16500
                                            3 2 Give Peace A Chance - The Plastic Ono Band 2 2 2 15950
                                            2 3 In The Ghetto - Elvis Presley 3 3 4 15300
                                            8 4 Saved By The Bell - Robin Gibb 4 4 3 14950
                                            4 5 Something In The Air - Thunderclap Newman 5 5 5 14300
                                            14 6 Goodnight Midnight - Clodagh Rodgers 6 8 6 13250
                                            5 7 Hello Susie - Amen Corner 7 6 10 13150
                                            9 8 It Mek - Desmond Dekker and The Aces 10 7 8 12500
                                            7 9 That's The Way God Planned It - Billy Preston 8 9 11 12100
                                            10 10 Baby Make It Soon - The Marmalade 9 10 9 11850
                                            18 11 Make Me An Island - Joe Dolan 11 11 7 11400
                                            6 12 A Way Of Life - The Family Dogg 12 12 14 10250
                                            11 13 Breakaway - The Beach Boys 13 13 17 9500
                                            24 14 My Cherie Amour - Stevie Wonder 14 14 16 9150
                                            23 15 Barabajagal - Donovan and The Jeff Beck Group 18 15 12 8500
                                            21 16 Conversations - Cilla Black 15 18 13 8250
                                            13 17 The Ballad Of John And Yoko - The Beatles 16 17 22 7400
                                            12 18 Proud Mary - Creedence Clearwater Revival 17 16 23 7350
                                            16 19 Time Is Tight - Booker T. and The MG's 23 19 20 5700
                                            28 20 I Can Sing A Rainbow/Love Is Blue - The Dells 19 22 25 5250
                                            25 21 Wet Dream - Max Romeo 22 24 15 5150
                                            19 22 Gimme Gimme Good Lovin' - Crazy Elephant 21 21 26 5000
                                            30 23 Bringing On Back The Good Times - The Love Affair 20 25 19 4900
                                            15 24 Lights Of Cincinnati - Scott Walker 25 20 24 4650
                                            27 25 When Two Worlds Collide - Jim Reeves 27 26 18 3350
                                            17 26 Living In The Past - Jethro Tull 28 23 2600
                                            NEW 27 Early In The Morning - Vanity Fair 24 21 2400
                                            NEW 28 Too Busy Thinking About My Baby - Marvin Gaye 26 28 1300
                                            22 29 Oh Happy Day - The Edwin Hawkins Singers 28 27 1150
                                            20 30 Frozen Orange Juice - Peter Sarstedt 27 30 1100
                                            B Peaceful - Georgie Fame 29 29 600
                                            26 What Is A Man - The Four Tops 29 500
                                            29 Dizzy - Tommy Roe 30 250
                                            B Curly - The Move 30 200
                                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                                            • I enjoyed watching 'Charts Britannia' again. I found it even more interesting this time around as it covered many of the same topics we have discussed time and time again here.
                                              I laughed again though when it got to the 1969 section and the launch of the BMRB chart and its panel of '300' chart return shops used to compile the chart. It gave the impression yet again that this was the figure used. They did not mention that only a proportion of the '300' was initially used and conveniently omitted to mention the number of wasted or spoilt diaries received. They did however mention how easy it was for shops to 'rig' the diaries either by themselves or at the behest of others. They interviewed record store staff who admitted to ticking more boxes than they should have to indicate sales. It makes you wonder just how common this practise was in chart return shops at this time.

                                              The programme also did mention the other music paper charts and how all charts tended to differ slightly although they used the same sampling days. We know this to be wrong that wasn't the case for all papers. They then mentioned 'all couldn't be correct so some had to be wrong'. I disagree with that, all could be correct in their own way depending on stores sampled, number of stores sampled, days sampled, etc

                                              But all in all it was enjoyable to watch again. I did love the section though where they highlighted how Please Please Me topped all charts except RR. They wouldn't however admit that maybe it was RR that was just wrong.
                                              The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                                              • Yes there were little details I hadn't noticed before. Like the joint positions on the TOTP Top 20 board; in the first edition it was difficult to see that number 6 was tied, but by October they had made ties clearer by having a square bracket connecting them.

                                                The first section was lacking mention of a few important players and events - Donegan, the Stones, She Loves You etc. I realise they were under time pressure, but then they spent ages with that guys comments on a particular Top 40 written on chip paper.

                                                It was interesting to see the actual BMRB diaries. It does indeed seem lax to rely on an assistant entering the correct number of ticks, although at least this was an attempt to provide something more scientific than an overall list with sales numbers beside.

                                                Is that really true that a quarter of the population listened to POTP in its heyday? I have a BBC publication from the time when Bruno Brookes presented the Top 40 show which claims it had 8 million listeners and that this was more than any other radio programme in Europe. So I suppose POTP may have achieved that when there was less competition. In any case, the charts were certainly of widespread public interest.

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                                                • It would have been much better if there were less interviews with meaningless opinions with the likes of Phil Swern and Tony Blackburn. More facts around how the various charts were compiled, numbers of stores sampled in the sixties, which papers used which stores, more detail about the inauguration of the BMRB chart and its initial settling in problems and multiple ties, would have made a much more informative and factual programme.
                                                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Fifties and Sixties.

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                                                  • It’s possibly they do not have that level of detail. We do (or at least some of it) here, but they may not. Equally, I’m not entirely sure who the programme is aimed at. I do wonder if this is aimed at a more general audience and so some reduction in raw facts is probably understandable. But yes, I share your view that I’d like more info!
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