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Marty Wilde 5, Ritchie Valens 30. Yet today when 'Donna' is played on the radio it is always the Ritchie Valens version. Buyers of it would have had the bonus of a B-side (La Bamba) that was still hip enough to make the Top 50 in 1987.
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Greetings Pop Pickers
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending April 18th 1959
Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 18th 1959 NME MM DISC RM Total Last This The Sound Survey 75 25 40 60 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 1 1 Side Saddle - Russ Conway 1 1 2 1 1 5975 3 2 It Doesn't Matter Anymore - Buddy Holly 2 2 1 2 1 5885 2 3 Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters 3 4 3 3 3 5525 5 4 Petite Fleur - Chris Barber 4 3 4 4 6 5355 9 5 Donna - Marty Wilde 5 5 6 5 4 5235 13 6 C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran 6 6 7 6 8 4855 11 7 Charlie Brown - The Coasters 8 8 9 8 5 4755 4 8 My Happiness - Connie Francis 7 10 5 7 7 4625 7 9 Stagger Lee - Lloyd Price 9 7 8 11 10 4435 6 10 As I Love You - Shirley Bassey 10 12 10 9 9 4150 10 11 Gigi - Billy Eckstine 11 9 11 13 11 4070 12 12 The Little Drummer Boy - The Beverly Sisters 12= 11 16 10 14 3735 8 13 A Pub With No Beer - Slim Dusty 12= 14 12 12 13 3590 14 14 Tomboy - Perry Como 14= 13 13 15 15 3400 15 15 Sing Little Birdie - Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson 14= 16 15 14 12 3345 16 16 Wait For Me / Willingly - Malcolm Vaughan 17 15 18 18 19 2765 NEW 17 It's Late / Never Be Anyone Else But You - Ricky Nelson 16 22 14 16 16 2600 17 18 By The Light Of The Silvery Moon - Little Richard 18 17 20 18 2270 18 19 Maybe Tomorrow - Billy Fury 19 18 17 1815 19 20 Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour - Lonnie Donegan 20 19 1305 20 21 (All Of A Sudden) - My Heart Sings - Paul Anka 19 20 1175 22 22 I Got Stung / One Night - Elvis Presley 20 17 19 1070 28 23 French Foreign Legion - Frank Sinatra 21 750 26 24 Kiss Me Honey Honey Kiss Me - Shirley Bassey 23 600 27 25 Venus - Frankie Avalon 17 560 RE 26 The Little Drummer Boy - Michael Flanders 24 525 23 27 With The Wind And The Rain In Your Hair - Pat Boone 25 450 RE 28 Venus - Dickie Valentine 26 375 29 29 Early To Bed - The Poni-Tails 27 300 21 30 Donna - Ritchie Valens 19 300 24 All American Boy - Bill Parsons 28 225 The Wonderful Secret Of Love - Robert Earl 29 150 25 Manhattan Spiritual - Reg Owen 30 75 30 Problems - The Everly Brothers
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The 4 newspaper charts are pretty much in agreement with the top 6. This week Disc makes the running on some of the climbers.
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Greetings Pop Pickers
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending April 11th 1959
Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 11th 1959 NME MM DISC RM Total Last This The Sound Survey 75 25 40 60 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 1 1 Side Saddle - Russ Conway 1 1 1 1 1 6000 2 2 Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters 2 2 2 2 3 5740 4 3 It Doesn't Matter Anymore - Buddy Holly 3 3 3 3 2 5660 3 4 My Happiness - Connie Francis 4= 4 5 5 4 5335 6 5 Petite Fleur - Chris Barber 4= 5 4 4 5 5265 5 6 As I Love You - Shirley Bassey 6 6 7 6 5 5035 8 7 Stagger Lee - Lloyd Price 7 7 6 11 7 4665 7 8 A Pub With No Beer - Slim Dusty 8 9 9 7 10 4420 14 9 Donna - Marty Wilde 10 10 14 8 8 4300 10 10 Gigi - Billy Eckstine 9 8 8 12 11 4260 16 11 Charlie Brown - The Coasters 11= 13 13 10 9 3960 9 12 The Little Drummer Boy - The Beverly Sisters 11= 11 12 9 13 3935 15 13 C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran 13 14 10 13 12 3660 11 14 Tomboy - Perry Como 14 12 15 15 14 3485 12 15 Sing Little Birdie - Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson 15 15 11 14 17 3220 17 16 Wait For Me / Willingly - Malcolm Vaughan 16 16 16 16 2400 20 17 By The Light Of The Silvery Moon - Little Richard 17 17 17 15 2360 22 18 Maybe Tomorrow - Billy Fury 19= 18 19 18 2235 13 19 Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour - Lonnie Donegan 18 19 16 19 2220 19 20 (All Of A Sudden) My Heart Sings - Paul Anka 19= 20 18 17 1710 RE 21 Donna - Ritchie Valens 20 20 935 18 22 I Got Stung / One Night - Elvis Presley 24 19 825 NEW 23 With The Wind And The Rain In Your Hair - Pat Boone 21 750 NEW 24 All American Boy - Bill Parsons 22 675 30 25 Manhattan Spiritual - Reg Owen 28 20 665 21 26 Kiss Me Honey Honey Kiss Me - Shirley Bassey 23 600 NEW 27 Venus - Frankie Avalon 18 520 NEW 28 French Foreign Legion - Frank Sinatra 25 450 NEW 29 Early To Bed - The Poni-Tails 26 375 28 30 Problems - The Everly Brothers 27 300 Baby Face - Little Richard 29 150 25 The Wonderful Secret Of Love - Robert Earl 30 75 23 To Know Him Is To Love Him - The Teddy Bears 24 Lonely One - Duane Eddy 26 Ciao Ciao Bambina - Marino Marini 27 Venus - Dickie Valentine 29 I'll Remember Tonight - Pat Boone
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In a sales-based chart Buddy might have already been number one.
My theory is that sales for 'records with momentum' rise unevenly. So in some stores sales increase slowly but in others they are soaring ahead. This might be why BMRB and Gallup had them shooting up faster than the points-based charts which were unable to reflect sufficiently the 'soaring ahead' aspect. (I would be interested to hear alternative explanations!)
But I don't know why Disc are slowest now - nor why in the 60s, pre-BMRB, NME were fastest. Perhaps the 'soaring ahead' stores were largely the same and speed depended on the proportion of them you had.
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Disc again seems to be a week behind all the other newspaper charts when it comes to records with momentum - 'It Doesn't Matter Anymore', for example, plus records that were new to the UAC top 20. Thankfully it's relatively low sized sales panel doesn't drag down newer hits by much.
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There was one POTP in which their points calculations were revealed. That was the 1966 chart of the year, available on the web. I tried to recreate the points for a few records but gave up, concluding that it was riddled with mistakes.
Just realised that Pub Without is in waltz time, which is unusual for a singalong-type song and adds to its quirkiness. That other Aussie favourite Waltzing Matilda is not in waltz time, so maybe they got them mixed up!
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Greetings Pop Pickers
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending April 4th 1959
Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 4th 1959 NME MM DISC RM Total Last This The Sound Survey 75 25 40 60 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 1 1 Side Saddle - Russ Conway 1 1 1 1 1 6000 2 2 Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters 2 2 2 2 2 5800 3 3 My Happiness - Connie Francis 3 5 3 3 4 5390 10 4 It Doesn't Matter Anymore - Buddy Holly 5 3 5 10 3 5270 4 5 As I Love You - Shirley Bassey 6 4 6 7 5 5170 5 6 Petite Fleur - Chris Barber 4 6 4 4 6 5130 6 7 A Pub With No Beer - Slim Dusty 7 8 7 5 8 4745 7 8 Stagger Lee - Lloyd Price 8 7 8 8 7 4735 8 9 The Little Drummer Boy - The Beverly Sisters 9 11 10 6 9 4345 9 10 Gigi - Billy Eckstine 10 9 9 9 10 4340 12 11 Tomboy - Perry Como 11 10 12 14 12 3870 17 12 Sing Little Birdie - Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson 12 12 11 12 19 3405 11 13 Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour - Lonnie Donegan 13= 14 18 11 16 3300 18 14 Donna - Marty Wilde 15 15 20 16 11 3275 14 15 C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran 13= 17 13 15 14 3160 19 16 Charlie Brown - The Coasters 17 16 17 20 13 2995 22 17 Wait For Me / Willingly - Malcolm Vaughan 16 13 16 15 2685 15 18 I Got Stung / One Night - Elvis Presley 19 21 14 18 18 2475 13 19 (All Of A Sudden) My Heart Sings - Paul Anka 18 18 15 13 2095 NEW 20 By The Light Of The Silvery Moon - Little Richard 20 17 1665 16 21 Kiss Me Honey Honey Kiss Me - Shirley Bassey 20 19 17 1460 24 22 Maybe Tomorrow - Billy Fury 22 19 1155 25 23 To Know Him Is To Love Him - The Teddy Bears 26 19 675 NEW 24 Lonely One - Duane Eddy 20 660 20 25 The Wonderful Secret Of Love - Robert Earl 23 600 RE 26 Ciao Ciao Bambina - Marino Marini 24 525 RE 27 Venus - Dickie Valentine 25 450 28 28 Problems - The Everly Brothers 27 300 26 29 I'll Remember Tonight - Pat Boone 28 225 23 30 Manhattan Spiritual - Reg Owen 29 150 29 Baby Face - Little Richard 30 75 21 Donna - Ritchie Valens 27 The Little Drummer Boy - The Harry Simeone Chorale 30 Ciao Ciao Bambina - Domenico Modugno
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On the 28th February Chart, Chris Barber, The Beverly Sisters and The Everly Brothers should be equal 8 on the BBC Chart as they all have 36 points, No logical reason for spliting them as they did (if anything Chris Barber was climbing further than The Beverly Sisters while The Everly Brothers were stable).
On the 7th March Chart, Perry Como and Billy Eckstine are equal 19 on the BBC chart with 77 points. Perhaps they split them based on Perry Como being a new entry in the Top 20 while Billy Eckstine was at 18 last week (and so dropping).
On the 14th March Chart, pointwise, Buddy Holly and the Teddy Bears appear to have been transposed as Buddy Holly is on 55 and The Teddy Bears on 56 points for the BBC chart.
No errors on the other two BBC charts.
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Yip. 3 point rule applied, equal points, equal hierarchy too so goes to highest sample of shops NME so Russ is #1.
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So what is the UAC tiebreaking method used here - NME allegedly having the largest survey?
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Greetings Pop Pickers
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending March 28th 1959
Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending March 28th 1959 NME MM DISC RM Total Last This The Sound Survey 75 25 40 60 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 3 1 Side Saddle - Russ Conway 1= 1 1 2 2 5900 1 2 Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters 1= 2 2 1 1 5900 5 3 My Happiness - Connie Francis 3 4 3 4 3 5485 2 4 As I Love You - Shirley Bassey 4 3 4 5 4 5435 6 5 Petite Fleur - Chris Barber 5 5 5 3 5 5280 4 6 A Pub With No Beer - Slim Dusty 6 6 6 7 7 4900 8 7 Stagger Lee - Lloyd Price 7 7 8 8 6 4795 7 8 The Little Drummer Boy - The Beverly Sisters 8 10 9 6 9 4445 10 9 Gigi - Billy Eckstine 9 8 7 10 11 4365 11 10 It Doesn't Matter Anymore - Buddy Holly 10 9 10 13 8 4275 9 11 Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour - Lonnie Donegan 11 11 12 9 10 4115 15 12 Tomboy - Perry Como 12 14 13 12 12 3625 14 13 (All Of A Sudden) My Heart Sings - Paul Anka 13 13 11 14 14 3550 16 14 C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran 14 12 16 15 15 3400 13 15 I Got Stung / One Night - Elvis Presley 15 15 15 17 17 3000 12 16 Kiss Me Honey Honey Kiss Me - Shirley Bassey 16 16 18 16 18 2830 18 17 Sing Little Birdie - Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson 17 20 14 19 19 2450 25 18 Donna - Marty Wilde 20 21 19 16 1950 NEW 19 Charlie Brown - The Coasters 19 22 13 1755 20 20 The Wonderful Secret Of Love - Robert Earl 17 20 1490 26 21 Donna - Ritchie Valens 18 11 20 1460 30 22 Wait For Me / Willingly - Malcolm Vaughan 18 20 1250 19 23 Manhattan Spiritual - Reg Owen 24 18 1045 RE 24 Maybe Tomorrow - Billy Fury 19 900 21 25 To Know Him Is To Love Him - The Teddy Bears 27 17 650 24 26 I'll Remember Tonight - Pat Boone 23 600 23 27 The Little Drummer Boy - The Harry Simeone Chorale 24 525 17 28 Problems - The Everly Brothers 26 375 22 29 Baby Face - Little Richard 28 225 NEW 30 Ciao Ciao Bambina - Domenico Modugno 29 150 The Story Of My Love - Conway Twitty 30 75 27 Ciao Ciao Bambina - Marino Marini 27 The Day The Rains Came - Jane Morgan 29 The Little Drummer Boy - Michael Flanders
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The Platters now dominate on all charts. They never quite got the recognition they deserved for their contribution to music in the latter half of the fifties.
Buddy Holly is making surprisingly hard work of climbing the chart.
Number 18, least said the better.
Billy Eckstine, a class act. What a voice.
As an overview of this chart it's kind of a battle between the old and the new with the older traditional ballad style songs still holding on and obstinately refusing to let go.
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Greetings Pop Pickers
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending March 21st 1959
Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending March 21st 1959 NME MM DISC RM Total Last This The Sound Survey 75 25 40 60 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 1 1 Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters 1 1 1 1 1 6000 2 2 As I Love You - Shirley Bassey 2 2 2 4 2 5720 4 3 Side Saddle - Russ Conway 3 3 5 2 3 5590 3 4 A Pub With No Beer - Slim Dusty 4 4 3 3 5 5405 8 5 My Happiness - Connie Francis 5 5 4 5 4 5285 5 6 Petite Fleur - Chris Barber 6 6 6 7 6 4960 6 7 The Little Drummer Boy - The Beverly Sisters 7 8 7 6 9 4645 12 8 Stagger Lee - Lloyd Price 8 7 8 11 7 4615 7 9 Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour - Lonnie Donegan 9 11 9 8 8 4350 16 10 Gigi - Billy Eckstine 11 8 16 10 11 4140 13 11 It Doesn't Matter Anymore - Buddy Holly 10 10 10 13 10 4080 9 12 Kiss Me Honey Honey Kiss Me - Shirley Bassey 12 12 12 9 14 3800 10 13 I Got Stung / One Night - Elvis Presley 13 16 13 12 12 3475 11 14 (All Of A Sudden) My Heart Sings - Paul Anka 14 13 11 15 16 3390 17 15 Tomboy - Perry Como 15 14 20 14 15 3190 22 16 C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran 16 15 15 13 2680 15 17 Problems - The Everly Brothers 17 19 14 17 1885 NEW 18 Sing Little Birdie - Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson 18= 22 17 17 1865 19 19 Manhattan Spiritual - Reg Owen 20 18 1605 23 20 The Wonderful Secret Of Love - Robert Earl 20 17 19 1530 14 21 To Know Him Is To Love Him - The Teddy Bears 18= 23 18 16 1525 18 22 Baby Face - Little Richard 24 19 1245 21 23 The Little Drummer Boy - The Harry Simeone Chorale 21 19 1050 20 24 I'll Remember Tonight - Pat Boone 18 975 25 25 Donna - Marty Wilde 29 20 810 RE 26 Donna - Ritchie Valens 18 520 NEW 27 Ciao Ciao Bambina - Marino Marini 25 450 24 27 The Day The Rains Came - Jane Morgan 25 450 RE 29 The Little Drummer Boy - Michael Flanders 20 440 28 30 Wait For Me / Willingly - Malcolm Vaughan 27 300 30 I'll Be With You In Apple Blossom Time - Rosemary June 28 225 26 The World Outside - Russ Conway 30 75 27 Maybe Tomorrow - Billy Fury 29 Venus - Dickie Valentime
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'Smoke Gets In Your Eyes' is an excellent song. Great lead vocals by Tony Williams.
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As NME are Mr Maverick (again) it would have been churlish to deny it to them!
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Greetings Pop Pickers
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending March 14th 1959
Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending March 14th 1959 NME MM DISC RM Total Last This The Sound Survey 75 25 40 60 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 2 1 Smoke Gets In Your Eyes - The Platters 1 2 1 1 1 5925 1 2 As I Love You - Shirley Bassey 2 1 2 3 2 5835 3 3 A Pub With No Beer - Slim Dusty 3 3 3 2 3 5640 7 4 Side Saddle - Russ Conway 4 4 4 4 4 5400 8 5 Petite Fleur - Chris Barber 7 5 10 7 6 4935 9 6 The Little Drummer Boy - The Beverly Sisters 5 6 5 5 9 4885 4 7 Does Your Chewing Gum Lose It's Flavour - Lonnie Donegan 6 8 7 6 5 4885 10 8 My Happiness - Connie Francis 8 9 9 8 7 4560 6 9 Kiss Me Honey Honey Kiss Me - Shirley Bassey 10 6 11 9 12 4395 5 10 I Got Stung / One Night - Elvis Presley 9 11 6 10 8 4345 13 11 (All Of A Sudden) My Heart Sings - Paul Anka 11 10 8 11 13 4030 14 12 Stagger Lee - Lloyd Price 12 12 13 14 10 3815 16 13 It Doesn't Matter Anymore - Buddy Holly 14 13 16 15 11 3565 11 14 To Know Him Is To Love Him - The Teddy Bears 13 16 12 13 15 3280 12 15 Problems - The Everly Brothers 15 15 14 12 17 3225 17 16 Gigi - Billy Eckstine 16 14 15 16 20 2935 20 17 Tomboy - Perry Como 17 18 17 17 14 2905 15 18 Baby Face - Little Richard 18 21 19 18 16 2470 21 19 Manhattan Spiritual - Reg Owen 20= 23 17 1440 27 20 I'll Remember Tonight - Pat Boone 22 19 1395 18 21 The Little Drummer Boy - The Harry Simeone Chorale 19 18 18 1300 25 22 C'mon Everybody - Eddie Cochran 20 20 1100 23 23 The Wonderful Secret Of Love - Robert Earl 20= 17 1050 19 24 The Day The Rains Came - Jane Morgan 24 19 1005 NEW 25 Donna - Marty Wilde 29 20 590 26 26 The World Outside - Russ Conway 25 450 24 27 Maybe Tomorrow - Billy Fury 26 375 RE 28 Wait For Me / Willingly - Malcolm Vaughan 27 300 NEW 29 Venus - Dickie Valentine 28 225 22 30 I'll Be With You In Apple Blossom Time - Rosemary June 30 75 28 The Little Drummer Boy - Michael Flanders 29 Livin' Lovin' Doll - Cliff Richard
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Originally posted by brian05 View Post19 29 It's Only Make Believe - Conway Twitty
NEW 30 Maybe Tomorrow - Billy Fury
Did Billy Fury not record It's only make believe, or is that a different song?
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19 29 It's Only Make Believe - Conway Twitty
NEW 30 Maybe Tomorrow - Billy Fury
Did Billy Fury not record It's only make believe, or is that a different song?
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Interesting to see how the Shirls/Platters battle is played out in the UAC. So far it looks like reflecting a Disc-type middle way!
It may be that sales of the two were close but, after looking at those Gallup figures, alternatively it may be that one or more charts were way out and simply wrong. (In 84 we are coming up to a Phil Collins record that was number one for 4 weeks in MM and I shall be looking to see how close the sales were.) In this case it could be that one of them was a long term number one and the other not at all or for only 1 week - as NME and RM claim.
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Numbers 1 and 2 were obviously close sales wise this week.
Slim Dusty's 'Pub' was really popular and probably the most sung and performed song by all the amateur performers in the pubs and clubs at the time.
Winifred Atwell must have been seriously p****d off at the time. Russ Conway stole her thunder not only in stand alone piano hits but copied her formula of piano medleys too and swept her aside in 1959.
I have to express my eternal disappointment that in 1959 the beautiful, haunting, heart wrenching, 'Since I Don't Have You' by The Skyliners was totally ignored over here. It is one of my very favourite records of any era and still blows me away.
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