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  • I have been watching the Blue Ray of Help which features the Ticket To Ride song.
    The iconic bit where the notes appear on the telegraph poles, was just a way to hide the fact they were poles in the shot. The Beatles had to learn to ski!
    Wendy Richard and Frankie Howard filmed a scene in the film. But it got cut out. Wendy, very young at that time, was devastated about. She wondered why she didn't get invited to the premier!
    Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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    • Surprisingly, despite the films and massive publicity for both A Hard Day's Night and Help neither single sold a million at the time in the UK like most other Beatles singles in the late 63 to late 65 did. The only other exception was ..Ticket To Ride.

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      • Graham76man
        Graham76man commented
        Editing a comment
        I wonder if that was anything to do with from 1965 onwards you could now buy Beatles singles from Woolworth's. Prior to that you couldn't.

    • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 15th May 1965.

      The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 15th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
      Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
      Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
      1 1 Ticket To Ride - The Beatles 1 1 1 2 2 18865
      2 2 King Of The Road - Roger Miller 2= 3 2 3 1 18200
      3 3 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 2= 2 3 1 3 18180
      10 4 Where Are You Now - Jackie Trent 4 4 4 4 5 17060
      6 5 True Love Ways - Peter and Gordon 5 5 5 5 4 16595
      4 6 Bring It On Home To Me - The Animals 6 8 7 6 7 15140
      7 7 Pop Go The Workers - The Barron Knights 7 13 6 7 8 14205
      14 8 Wonderful World - Herman's Hermits 8 7 10 8 11 14050
      5 9 Here Comes The Night - Them 9 11 8 11 6 13875
      9 10 Oh No Not My Baby - Manfred Mann 11 9 9 9 12 13715
      13 11 Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan 10 6 12 10 10 13635
      8 12 The Minute You're Gone - Cliff Richard 12 14 11 12 9 12170
      26 13 This Little Bird - Marianne Faithfull 13 10 13 13 13 12030
      18 14 Not Until The Next Time - Jim Reeves 14 15 14 15 18 10155
      11 15 Little Things - Dave Berry 15 17 16 16 15 9410
      12 16 Catch The Wind - Donovan 16 19 15 18 14 9145
      NEW 17 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 18 12 19 14 8500
      15 18 Stop In The Name Of Love - The Supremes 17 21 17 17 16 8175
      21 19 All Over The World - Francoise Hardy 19 20 20 21 21 6800
      NEW 20 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 20 15 24 20 25 6560
      NEW 21 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 21 18 22 19 28 6305
      16 22 Concrete And Clay - Unit 4 + 2 22 29 18 22 19 5570
      24 23 That's Why I'm Crying - The Ivy League 23= 23 23 24 22 5065
      23 24 I've Been Wrong Before - Cilla Black 23= 22 25 26 17 4990
      19 25 The Times They Are A-Changin' - Bob Dylan 25 30 21 20 3635
      25 26 Once Upon A Time - Tom Jones 27 26 26 27 2650
      20 27 For Your Love - The Yardbirds 26 27 25 23 2280
      22 28 You're Breaking My Heart - Keely Smith 28 27 29 28 27 1940
      NEW 29 We Shall Overcome - Joan Baez 24 1400
      17 30 The Last Time - The Rolling Stones 29 28 24 1345
      Something Better Beginning - The Honeycombs 25 1200
      Marie - The Bachelors 30 23 800
      That's How Strong My Love Is - The In Crowd 28 600
      I'll Never Find Another You - The Seekers 26 425
      A Little You - Freddie and The Dreamers 30 250
      How Long Has It Been - Jim Reeves 29 200
      I Can't Explain - The Who 29 170
      Love Her - The Walker Brothers 30 100
      That'll Be The Day - The Everly Brothers 30 85

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      • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
        Surprisingly, despite the films and massive publicity for both A Hard Day's Night and Help neither single sold a million at the time in the UK like most other Beatles singles in the late 63 to late 65 did. The only other exception was ..Ticket To Ride.
        Mind you I don't think EMI were all that trueful on the sales of records. Even the bloke that made the Beatles - George Martin was paid peanuts by EMI. If you read his own book he didn't even know the amount they were selling. Threatening to quit, he got a Christmas bonus based on sales of the Beatles stuff. It's not till he did the conversion maths did he knew the scale of the income from them. So shocked by the massive amount thinking it was wrong he asked his boss. "No that's right" - he was told.
        Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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        • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 22nd May 1965.

          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 22nd 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
          4 1 Where Are You Now - Jackie Trent 1 1 1 1 1 19050
          3 2 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 2 2 2 2 5 18160
          1 3 Ticket To Ride - The Beatles 3 4 3 3 3 17580
          5 4 True Love Ways - Peter and Gordon 4 5 5 5 2 16765
          2 5 King Of The Road - Roger Miller 5 6 4 4 4 16745
          17 6 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 6 3 6 6 8 16305
          13 7 This Little Bird - Marianne Faithfull 7 7 7 7 6 15325
          8 8 Wonderful World - Herman's Hermits 8 10 8 8 7 14290
          11 9 Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan 9 8 9 9 9 14170
          6 10 Bring It On Home To Me - The Animals 10 12 11 10 12 12515
          21 11 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 11 11 12 11 13 12280
          7 12 Pop Go The Workers - The Barron Knights 13 15 10 14 10 11935
          20 13 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 14 9 14 13 14 11895
          10 14 Oh No Not My Baby - Manfred Mann 12 13 13 12 11 11700
          14 15 Not Until The Next Time - Jim Reeves 15 14 15 15 15 10360
          19 16 All Over The World - Francoise Hardy 16 18 16 17 18 8855
          9 17 Here Comes The Night - Them 17 16 18 16 19 8770
          12 18 The Minute You're Gone - Cliff Richard 18 22 17 18 17 7790
          23 19 That's Why I'm Crying - The Ivy League 19 19 20 19 23 7030
          15 20 Little Things - Dave Berry 21 29 19 20 24 5095
          16 21 Catch The Wind - Donovan 20 21 21 16 4775
          NEW 22 Marie - The Bachelors 24 21 24 22 4650
          NEW 23 Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 22 17 28 25 27 4490
          24 24 I've Been Wrong Before - Cilla Black 25 27 23 28 20 4035
          18 25 Stop In The Name Of Love - The Supremes 23 22 23 21 3900
          29 26 We Shall Overcome - Joan Baez 27 27 25 26 2725
          NEW 27 Iko Iko - The Dixie Cups 26 20 26 2700
          NEW 28 (You've) Never Been In Love Like This Before - Unit 4 + 2 28 24 24 2100
          NEW 29 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 29 23 29 1770
          NEW 30 Love Her - The Walker Brothers 30 26 30 30 1635
          Trains And Boats And Planes - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 24 29 1600
          Concrete And Clay - Unit 4 + 2 30 27 25 1510
          How Long Has It Been - Jim Reeves 26 27 1400
          The Times They Are A-Changin' - Bob Dylan 30 22 1015
          Once Upon A Time - Tom Jones 29 500
          The Last Time -The Rolling Stones 28 255

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          • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 29th May 1965.

            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 29th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
            6 1 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 1 1 1 1 1 19050
            1 2 Where Are You Now - Jackie Trent 2 2 2 2 2 18415
            2 3 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 3 3 3 3 4 17695
            4 4 True Love Ways - Peter and Gordon 4 4 4 4 3 17230
            7 5 This Little Bird - Marianne Faithfull 5 5 6 5 6 16175
            5 6 King Of The Road - Roger Miller 6 8 5 8 5 15610
            11 7 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 7 6 8 6 8 15205
            13 8 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 8 7 7 7 10 14985
            3 9 Ticket To Ride - The Beatles 9 10 9 9 7 13940
            9 10 Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan 10 11 10 10 9 13220
            23 11 Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 11 9 11 11 12 13015
            8 12 Wonderful World - Herman's Hermits 12 17 12 12 11 11150
            15 13 Not Until The Next Time - Jim Reeves 13 13 14 13 14 11095
            22 14 Marie - The Bachelors 14= 12 15 15 18 10505
            16 15 All Over The World - Francoise Hardy 14= 16 13 14 17 10390
            10 16 Bring It On Home To Me - The Animals 16 18 16 17 16 9025
            29 17 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 17 15 19 16 19 8720
            NEW 18 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 20 14 21 18 24 7795
            12 19 Pop Go The Workers - The Barron Knights 19 21 18 21 15 7610
            14 20 Oh No Not My Baby - Manfred Mann 18 25 17 20 13 7330
            NEW 21 Trains And Boats And Planes - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 21 19 20 19 20 7285
            28 22 (You've) Never Been In Love Before - Unit 4 + 2 22 23 26 22 22 4515
            19 23 That's Why I'm Crying - The Ivy League 24 26 22 23 4050
            27 24 Iko Iko - The Dixie Cups 23 20 28 26 26 3875
            26 25 We Shall Overcome - Joan Baez 28 24 25 29 3070
            17 26 Here Comes The Night - Them 26 23 28 25 2810
            18 27 The Minute You're Gone - Cliff Richard 25 24 29 21 2800
            NEW 28 Set Me Free - The Kinks 27 22 30 25 2650
            NEW 29 Come Home - The Dave Clark Five 29 26 29 24 2200
            30 30 Love Her - The Walker Brothers 30 28 27 27 2000
            Little Things - Dave Berry 23 680
            How Long Has It Been - Jim Reeves 29 400
            I've Been Wrong Before - Cilla Black 27 340
            I'll Never Find Another You - The Seekers 28 255
            I'm Alive - The Hollies 30 200
            Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 30 200
            Catch The Wind - Donovan 30 30 185


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            • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 5th June 1965.

              The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 5th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
              Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
              Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
              1 1 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 1 1 1 1 1 19050
              3 2 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 2 2 3 4 3 17880
              8 3 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 3 4 2 5 7 17290
              7 4 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 4 7 5 2 5 16410
              11 5 Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 6= 5 4 10 8 16005
              17 6 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 6= 3 6 7 11 15950
              2 7 Where Are You Now - Jackie Trent 5 9 7 3 2 15665
              18 8 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 9 6 8 6 14 14695
              4 9 True Love Ways - Peter and Gordon 8 8 9 8 4 14695
              5 10 This Little Bird - Marianne Faithfull 10 10 10 9 6 13775
              6 11 King Of The Road - Roger Miller 11 14 11 11 9 12270
              14 12 Marie - The Bachelors 12 11 12 13 17 11740
              9 13 Ticket To Ride - The Beatles 13 18 13 14 10 10585
              10 14 Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan 14 17 14 17 12 10065
              21 15 Trains And Boats And Planes - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 16 12 18 15 19 9670
              13 16 Not Until The Next Time - Jim Reeves 15 19 15 16 13 9430
              NEW 17 I'm Alive - The Hollies 17 13 21 12 23 8680
              15 18 All Over The World - Francoise Hardy 18 20 16 22 16 8125
              28 19 Set Me Free - The Kinks 19 16 19 19 22 7965
              29 20 Come Home - The Dave Clark Five 21 15 22 21 21 7300
              12 21 Wonderful World - Herman's Hermits 20 26 17 18 15 7160
              22 22 (You've) Never Been In Love Like This Before - Unit 4 + 2 22 24 20 20 18 6355
              NEW 23 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 23 21 26 23 26 4475
              30 24 Love Her - The Walker Brothers 24 24 23 25 28 4255
              16 25 Bring It On Home To Me - The Animals 25 25 27 20 2835
              NEW 26 Colours - Donovan 26= 22 30 26 2550
              19 27 Pop Go The Workers - The Barron Knights 28 24 30 25 2360
              NEW 28 Stingray - The Shadows 26= 23 24 2300
              24 29 Iko Iko - The Dixie Cups 29 27 29 24 1895
              20 30 Oh No Not My Baby - Manfred Mann 30 27 28 27 1640
              We Shall Overcome - Joan Baez 28 29 920
              Engine Engine No 9 - Roger Miller 28 600
              From The Bottom Of My Heart - The Moody Blues 29 400
              My Child - Connie Francis 30 200
              Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 29 200
              That's Why I'm Crying - The Ivy League 30 85

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              • Probably due to the methodology used by the other charts and RR doing an EP only chart, what's missing from the current top 30 is the Beatles - Beatles For Sale No1 EP, (9) The Searchers - Bumble Bee EP (20).
                A lot of the RR EP's would make the top 100, at this time. But by August 1967 the entire RR EP's chart would be missing from the top 100.
                Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                • Yeah it would have been much better if RR had adopted EP's into the singles chart as the others did. There was room for both an EP chart and EP's represented in the singles chart.

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                  • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 12th June 1965.

                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 12th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
                    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                    1 1 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 1 2 2 1 1 18600
                    8 2 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 2 3 1 2 2 18465
                    6 3 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 3 1 3 3 4 18095
                    3 4 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 4= 4 4 6 7 16690
                    4 5 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 4= 6 6 4 5 16160
                    5 6 Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 7 5 5 8 6 16125
                    2 7 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 6 7 7 5 3 15780
                    17 8 I'm Alive - The Hollies 8 8 8 7 10 14535
                    12 9 Marie - The Bachelors 9 9 10 9 11 13550
                    10 10 This Little Bird - Marianne Faithfull 10 12 9 11 8 13255
                    9 11 True Love Ways - Peter And Gordon 12 11 11 13 13 12330
                    7 12 Where Are You Now - Jackie Trent 11 13 13 10 9 12070
                    15 13 Trains And Boats And Planes - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 13 10 15 12 12 11715
                    26 14 Colours - Donovan 15 15 12 17 21 10200
                    19 15 Set Me Free - The Kinks 14 14 14 18 17 10140
                    22 16 (You've) Never Been In Love Like This Before - Unit 4 + 2 16 21 16 14 15 8810
                    23 17 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 17 17 17 15 24 8495
                    20 18 Come Home - The Dave Clark Five 18 16 19 20 22 7865
                    11 19 King Of The Road - Roger Miller 19 20 22 19 16 6925
                    28 20 Stingray - The Shadows 20 19 26 16 27 5490
                    24 21 Love Her - The Walker Brothers 23 18 23 28 26 5325
                    16 22 Not Until The Next Time - Jim Reeves 22 29 21 21 18 5005
                    13 23 Ticket To Ride - The Beatles 21 28 24 22 14 4695
                    18 24 All Over The World - Francoise Hardy 24= 18 23 25 4560
                    14 25 Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan 26 20 20 3685
                    NEW 26 My Child - Connie Francis 28 22 28 25 3150
                    NEW 27 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 24= 26 27 26 28 2755
                    21 28 Wonderful World - Herman's Hermits 27 25 29 19 2720
                    NEW 29 On My Word - Cliff Richard 23 30 30 1950
                    NEW 30 It Ain't Me Babe - Johnny Cash 29 25 24 1900
                    From The Bottom Of My Heart - The Moody Blues 30 24 27 1800
                    Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 27 800
                    Iko Iko - The Dixie Cups 23 680
                    We Shall Overcome - Joan Baez 29 500
                    Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 30 200
                    I'll Stay By You - Kenny Lynch 30 200
                    Pop Go The Workers - The Barron Knights 29 170
                    Bring It On Home To Me - The Animals 30 85

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                    • The BBC never did a similar chart for the albums did they? That would certainly be an interesting chart - assuming they were compiled in the same way.

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                      • No Brain, the BBC didn't compile an album chart. It was mid sixties really before an album chart really gained credence and by the late sixties it was a serious rival to the singles chart.

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                        • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 19th June 1965.

                          * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's, but appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 19th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
                          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                          2 1 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 1 1 1 1 1 19050
                          3 2 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 2 2 2 2 2 18415
                          8 3 I'm Alive - The Hollies 3 3 3 3 4 17695
                          1 4 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 4 4 4 4 3 17230
                          6 5 Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 5 5 7 5 5 16010
                          4 6 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 6 6 6 6 7 15790
                          14 7 Colours - Donovan 7 7 5 7 10 15485
                          5 8 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 8 8 8 8 6 14775
                          15 9 Set Me Free - The Kinks 10 9 9 9 13 13630
                          7 10 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 9 10 10 10 8 13505
                          9 11 Marie - The Bachelors 11 12 12 11 9 12420
                          27 12 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 12 11 11 12 17 12090
                          17 13 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 13 14 13 14 11 11300
                          NEW 14 Got Live If You Want It (EP) - The Rolling Stones 14 13 16 15 * 10344
                          16 15 (You've) Never Been In Love Like This Before - Unit 4 + 2 15 17 14 13 16 10125
                          13 16 Trains And Boats And Planes - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 16 18 15 16 14 9545
                          10 17 This Little Bird - Marianne Faithfull 17 21 18 17 12 8265
                          29 18 On My Word - Cliff Richard 18 16 19 18 21 8150
                          11 19 True Love Ways - Peter and Gordon 19 24 17 20 15 7360
                          18 20 Come Home - The Dave Clark Five 20 20 20 21 19 6970
                          20 21 Stingray - The Shadows 21 21 21 23 23 5980
                          NEW 22 From The Bottom Of My Heart - The Moody Blues 22 15 26 19 29 5820
                          NEW 23 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 24 18 27 26 * 4729
                          12 24 Where Are You Now - Jackie Trent 23 23 22 18 4005
                          21 25 Love Her - The Walker Brothers 25 29 22 20 3585
                          26 26 My Child - Connie Francis 28 26 24 2750
                          NEW 27 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 27 23 29 27 2500
                          30 28 It Ain't Me Babe - Johnny Cash 26 25 30 25 28 2305
                          24 29 All Over The World - Francoise Hardy 30 25 27 1840
                          NEW 30 I'll Stay By You - Kenny Lynch 29 27 24 1500
                          We Shall Overcome - Joan Baez 28 29 950
                          Not Until The Next Time - Jim Reeves 22 765
                          Leave A Little Love - Lulu 28 30 700
                          Ticket To Ride - The Beatles 24 595
                          King Of The Raod - Roger Miller 25 510
                          Maggie's Farm - Bob Dylan 30 28 500
                          Subterranean Homesick Blues - Bob Dylan 26 425
                          Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 30 30 285
                          She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 30 200

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                          • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 26th June 1965.

                            * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's, but appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 26th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
                            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                            1 1 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 1 1 1 1 2 18965
                            3 2 I'm Alive - The Hollies 2 2 2 2 1 18500
                            2 3 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 3 3 3 3 3 17780
                            12 4 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 5 4 4 4 10 16635
                            7 5 Colours - Donovan 4 5 6 5 5 16260
                            4 6 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 6 6 5 6 7 16040
                            6 7 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 8 9 7 8 6 14825
                            5 8 Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 7 7 10 7 4 14745
                            14 9 Got Live If You Want It (EP) - The Rolling Stones 9 8 9 9 * 14204
                            9 10 Set Me Free - The Kinks 10 11 8 10 9 13720
                            8 11 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 11 12 13 12 8 12155
                            13 12 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 13 13 11 15 13 11730
                            23 13 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 12 10 16 11 * 11540
                            18 14 On My Word - Cliff Richard 14 15 12 13 17 10940
                            10 15 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 15 15 14 16 12 10565
                            11 16 Marie - The Bachelors 16 17 17 14 11 9700
                            15 17 (You've) Never Been In Love Like This Before - Unit 4 + 2 17 20 15 19 14 8845
                            27 18 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 18 18 18 17 20 8185
                            NEW 19 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 19= 14 20 22 25 7560
                            22 20 From The Bottom Of My Heart - The Moody Blues 19= 22 19 18 22 6865
                            20 21 Come Home - The Dave Clark Five 25 25 21 16 4975
                            16 22 Trains And Boats And Planes - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 22 28 24 21 23 4030
                            17 23 This Little Bird - Marianne Faithfull 24 22 15 3610
                            21 24 Stingray - The Shadows 26 23 28 19 3320
                            NEW 25 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 27 19 24 3100
                            NEW 26 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 28 20 30 25 3050
                            NEW 27 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 21 24 29 20 3000
                            19 28 True Love Ways - Peter and Gordon 27 18 2105
                            25 29 Love Her - The Walker Brothers 29 26 21 2100
                            NEW 30 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 30 22 29 2000
                            She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 23 27 23 27 1940
                            My Child - Connie Francis 25 26 1925
                            Maggie's Farm - Bob Dylan 26 26 1500
                            Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 28 28 1005
                            Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 29 27 800
                            Where Are You Now - Jackie Trent 24 595
                            I'll Stay By You - Kenny Lynch 29 29 570
                            It's Just A Little Bit Too Late - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 29 30 500
                            King Of The Road - Roger Miller 30 85

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                            • Mr Tambourine Man was there only due to Pirate Radio and one DJ in particular Keith Skues. He worked for Radio Hallam from 1974 and even then he beat every DJ in the country for being the best picker of hit records in the UK. Even beating all the Radio One DJ's. I believe he still works for a BBC station somewhere now.
                              Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                              • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 3rd July 1965.

                                * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's, but appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 3rd 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                                Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                2 1 I'm Alive - The Hollies 1 1 1 1 2 18965
                                1 2 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 2 2 2 2 1 18500
                                4 3 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 3 3 3 3 5 17610
                                3 4 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 4 4 4 4 3 17230
                                5 5 Colours - Donovan 5 5 5 5 4 16595
                                9 6 Got Live If You Want It (EP) - The Rolling Stones 6 7 6 6 * 15650
                                13 7 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 7 6 7 7 * 15474
                                26 8 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 10 10 9 8 15 13360
                                18 9 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 8= 9 11 9 11 13300
                                6 10 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 8= 14 8 11 7 13190
                                19 11 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 11= 11 10 10 13 12880
                                7 12 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 11= 12 12 12 8 12405
                                12 13 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 14 13 14 15 10 11235
                                8 14 Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 13 15 15 13 6 11125
                                14 15 On My Word - Cliff Richard 15 17 13 14 12 10615
                                27 16 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 17 8 20 17 19 9770
                                10 17 Set Me Free - The Kinks 16 20 16 18 9 9120
                                NEW 18 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 18 18 17 16 21 8450
                                15 19 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 19 24 18 21 14 7095
                                11 20 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 20 22 19 20 17 7090
                                25 21 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 21 16 23 19 23 6880
                                20 22 From The Bottom Of My Heart - The Moody Blues 22 21 22 22 24 5745
                                16 23 Marie - The Bachelors 23 27 21 26 16 5075
                                17 24 (You've) Never Been In Love Like This Before - Unit 4 + 2 24 25 24 24 18 4755
                                30 25 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 26 19 26 25 29 4420
                                NEW 26 She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 25 23 25 23 25 4410
                                21 27 Come Home - The Dave Clark Five 27 28 28 20 2285
                                NEW 28 Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 29 26 27 29 2200
                                NEW 29 Maggie's Farm - Bob Dylan 28 30 30 28 22 1515
                                24 30 Stingray - The Shadows 30 29 27 840
                                Trains And Boats And Planes - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 26 425
                                It Ain't Me Babe - Johnny Cash 29 400
                                Strong Love - The Spencer Davis Group 27 400
                                It's Just A Little Bit Too Late - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 28 255
                                That's The Way Love Goes - Charles Dickens 30 100
                                My Child - Connie Francis 30 85

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                                • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 10th July 1965.

                                  * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's, but appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

                                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 10th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                  Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                                  Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                  1 1 I'm Alive - The Hollies 1 1 1 1 1 19050
                                  2 2 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 2 2 2 2 2 18415
                                  3 3 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 3 5 3 3 3 17380
                                  9 4 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 4 4 4 5 4 17045
                                  16 5 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 5 3 5 4 8 16755
                                  8 6 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 6 6 6 6 5 15960
                                  7 7 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 9 9 7 10 * 14404
                                  11 8 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 8 10 8 8 9 14120
                                  5 9 Colours - Donovan 7 8 12 7 7 13790
                                  18 10 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 11 10 10 11 10 13235
                                  4 11 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 10 12 11 9 6 13125
                                  6 12 Got Live If You Want It (EP) - The Rolling Stones 13 12 9 13 * 12775
                                  21 13 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 12 7 13 12 13 12730
                                  13 14 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 14 17 14 15 11 10350
                                  10 15 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 15 18 15 14 15 9660
                                  15 16 On My Word - Cliff Richard 16 15 17 16 17 9390
                                  12 17 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 17 24 16 17 16 7825
                                  25 18 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 18= 14 22 21 23 7330
                                  26 19 She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 18= 21 20 20 19 6870
                                  17 20 Set Me Free - The Kinks 21 30 18 19 14 6095
                                  14 21 Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 20 19 18 12 5915
                                  22 22 From The Bottom Of My Heart - The Moody Blues 22 19 23 25 26 5425
                                  NEW 23 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 23 16 27 22 4900
                                  NEW 24 Goodbyeee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 25 20 25 24 28 4655
                                  19 25 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 24 21 26 18 4105
                                  23 26 Marie - The Bachelors 26 24 21 2600
                                  NEW 27 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 27 23 23 2400
                                  20 28 Poor Man's Son - The Rockin' Berries 28 26 22 2015
                                  NEW 29 I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 30 22 29 2000
                                  28 30 Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 26 30 27 1590
                                  Maggie's Farm - Bob Dylan 28 24 1345
                                  Cry To Me - The Pretty Things 25 1200
                                  Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 27 28 1100
                                  Just A Little Bit Too Late - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 29 30 20 1035
                                  He's Got No Love - The Searchers 28 600
                                  (You've) Never Been In Love Like This Before - Unit 4 + 2 25 510
                                  I'll Stay By You - Kenny Lynch 29 500
                                  The Ballad Of Spotty Muldoon - Peter Cook 29 400
                                  That's The Way Love Goes - Charles Dickens 27 400
                                  Come Home - The Dave Clark Five 29 170
                                  It Ain't Me Babe - Johnny Cash 30 85

                                  Comment


                                  • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 17th July 1965.

                                    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's, but appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

                                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 17th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                                    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                    5 1 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 1 1 1 1 3 18880
                                    4 2 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 2 2 2 2 2 18415
                                    1 3 I'm Alive - The Hollies 3 3 3 3 1 17950
                                    2 4 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 4 5 4 4 5 16860
                                    10 5 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 5 4 5 5 7 16540
                                    6 6 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 6 6 6 6 6 15875
                                    3 7 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 7 8 7 7 4 15295
                                    13 8 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 8 7 8 8 10 14635
                                    8 9 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 9 9 10 9 8 13805
                                    7 10 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 10 10 9 10 * 13619
                                    11 11 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 11 15 12 11 9 11820
                                    9 12 Colours - Donovan 12 13 13 12 11 11700
                                    12 13 Got Live If You Want It (EP) - The Rolling Stones 13= 14 11 16 * 11379
                                    23 14 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 15 12 14 15 16 10925
                                    18 15 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sam and The Pharaohs 13= 11 16 14 14 10895
                                    14 16 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 16 17 15 17 12 9815
                                    27 17 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 17 16 21 13 18 8405
                                    16 18 On My Word - Cliff Richard 18 22 17 18 13 8130
                                    19 19 She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quinted 19 26 18 20 15 6710
                                    24 20 Goodbyeee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 20 18 22 26 19 6370
                                    NEW 21 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 22 19 23 19 5600
                                    15 22 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 21 19 22 17 5090
                                    17 23 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 24 20 25 21 4200
                                    NEW 24 With These Hands - Tom Jones 25 21 26 23 4050
                                    NEW 25 Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 23 25 27 21 24 3795
                                    20 26 Set Me Free - The Kinks 27 24 20 2685
                                    29 27 I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 26 23 27 23 2680
                                    NEW 28 Cry To Me - The Pretty Things 29= 20 2200
                                    25 29 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 29= 25 26 1925
                                    22 30 From The Bottom Of My Heart - The Moody Blues 28 24 25 1910
                                    Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 28 28 29 1520
                                    Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 29= 29 22 1265
                                    We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 27 28 1100
                                    In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 24 700
                                    The Ballad Of Spotty Muldoon - Peter Cook 29 400
                                    Maggie's Farm - Bob Dylan 27 340
                                    Marie - The Bachelors 30 30 335
                                    Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 30 30 300
                                    It's Just A Little Bit Too Late - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 28 255
                                    That's The Way Love Goes - Charles Dickens 29 200

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                                    • Brian you could add the RR EP chart positions for those EP included in the other charts. As a way around filling the gaps in data. Not saying add all the RR EP chart positions in the data. As soon as they go missing from the other charts you would stop using the RR EP chart.
                                      Just a thought
                                      Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                                      • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Let me think on that suggestion Graham . Just in from work hence why running a bit late.

                                        Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 24th July 1965.

                                        * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's, but appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

                                        The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 24th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                        Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                                        Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                        1 1 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 1 1 1 1 1 19050
                                        2 2 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 2 2 2 2 2 18415
                                        5 3 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 3 3 3 3 3 17780
                                        3 4 I'm Alive - The Hollies 4 6 4 5 4 16645
                                        8 5 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 5= 5 5 6 9 16070
                                        17 6 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 5= 4 7 4 10 15885
                                        4 7 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 7 9 6 7 6 15175
                                        14 8 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 8 8 8 8 11 14350
                                        6 9 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 9 10 10 10 5 13760
                                        7 10 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 10 11 9 11 7 13540
                                        NEW 11 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 11 7 11 9 17 13190
                                        9 12 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 12 15 12 12 8 11805
                                        15 13 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 13 12 14 14 13 11280
                                        10 14 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 14 14 13 13 * 11205
                                        21 15 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 15 13 15 15 18 10305
                                        NEW 16 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 17 16 16 18 23 8730
                                        20 17 Goodbyeee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 16 19 17 17 19 8320
                                        24 18 With These Hands - Tom Jones 18 17 20 16 21 7900
                                        25 19 Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 21= 18 23 23 22 6165
                                        13 20 Got Live If You Want It (EP) - The Rolling Stones 20 22 21 21 * 6125
                                        19 21 She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 21= 28 18 24 16 5825
                                        12 22 Colours - Donovan 19 19 19 12 5815
                                        11 23 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 23 22 22 15 4510
                                        NEW 24 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 25 24 28 20 3250
                                        16 25 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 24 24 14 3195
                                        18 26 On My Word - Cliff Richard 28 29 25 28 20 3135
                                        28 27 Cry To Me - The Pretty Things 27 20 26 28 2955
                                        27 28 I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 26 25 27 24 2795
                                        NEW 29 Say You're My Girl - Roy Orbison 30 21 30 2100
                                        NEW 30 This World Is Not My Home - Jim Reeves 29 26 30 25 1850
                                        Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 23 29 1800
                                        Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 29 26 25 1760
                                        A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 26 27 1400
                                        A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 29 500
                                        The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 26 425
                                        Set Me Free - The Kinks 27 340
                                        I Want Candy - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 30 200
                                        Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 29 170
                                        Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 30 85

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                                        • Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 31st July 1965.

                                          As suggested by Graham I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when it placed on the Averaged Chart.

                                          * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

                                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 31st 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
                                          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                                          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                          NEW 1 Help - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 5 18710
                                          1 2 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 2 2 2 2 1 18500
                                          6 3 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 3 3 3 3 3 17780
                                          11 4 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 4 4 4 4 6 16975
                                          3 5 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 5 5 5 5 4 16595
                                          2 6 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 6 6 6 6 2 16215
                                          8 7 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 7 7 7 7 10 14985
                                          5 8 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 8 8 8 9 8 14505
                                          16 9 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 9 9 9 8 11 13900
                                          4 10 I'm Alive - The Hollies 10 12 10 10 7 13190
                                          13 11 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 11 11 12 13 12 12165
                                          15 12 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 12 10 13 11 16 11975
                                          7 13 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 13 13 11 14 14 11745
                                          9 14 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 14 15 14 16 9 10820
                                          18 15 With These Hands - Tom Jones 15 14 15 12 17 10490
                                          14 16 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 16 17 16 17 * 2 9174
                                          10 17 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 17 18 18 20 13 8480
                                          12 18 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 18 22 19 19 15 7360
                                          24 19 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 19 16 22 15 29 7020
                                          19 20 Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 21 28 17 26 19 5620
                                          17 21 Goodbyeee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 20 27 20 22 18 5555
                                          NEW 22 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 23 20 25 21 28 4955
                                          NEW 23 Summer Nights - Marianne Faithfull 24 24 23 24 24 4695
                                          29 24 Say You're My Girl - Roy Orbison 25 23 21 27 30 4585
                                          30 25 This World Is Not My Home - Jim Reeves 22 25 27 18 22 4265
                                          NEW 26 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 26 19 23 3200
                                          21 27 She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 27 24 30 21 2700
                                          NEW 28 Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 28 21 25 2600
                                          28 29 I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 30 26 25 1760
                                          NEW 30 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 29 29 28 1200
                                          Cry To Me - The Pretty Things 26 29 1200
                                          Colours - Donovan 28 26 1175
                                          The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 29 20 935
                                          On My Word - Cliff Richard 23 680
                                          Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 27 340
                                          I Want Candy - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 30 250
                                          Like We Used To Be - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 30 200