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  • Originally posted by Splodj View Post

    Is that from Jasper?

    In Record Mirror w/e 26-Dec-70 they have a Top 30 compiled on a points basis of the BMRB Top 30 from w/e 3-Jan to 19-Dec. The Top 10 are:

    1. The Wonder Of You - 394 points
    2. In The Summertime - 352
    3. Bridge Over Troubled Water - 345
    4. Wandrin' Star - 304
    5. Band Of Gold - 303
    6. All Right Now - 302
    7. Spirit In The Sky - 294
    8. Yellow River - 292
    9. Two Little Boys -285
    10. Something - 274

    Now here's another mystery. In their w/e 2-Jan-71 issue they repeat the previous week's album chart, because of the Christmas break, but publish a new singles chart. How could they do that if BMRB didn't produce one for that week?
    Yes - at the end of that POTP Top 50 of 1970 on Boxing Day, Alan did a rundown of the Top 20 which was played in full the following week (for reasons others have explained)

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    • Originally posted by Richard M White View Post
      Yes - at the end of that POTP Top 50 of 1970 on Boxing Day, Alan did a rundown of the Top 20 which was played in full the following week (for reasons others have explained)
      By yes, do you mean the Record Mirror 1970 Top 10 you quoted was from Jasper? It differs from the one actually published in RM on 26-Dec-70.

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      • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
        Sales at the top end of the chart must have been close but Free capture this week's top spot from Mungo. I think it's only right that both of these excellent singles be credited with a no 1 position, denied on BMRB.
        You are quite right about the close sales, 151K For Mungo and 147K for Free, but next week it's reversed with Free on 150K and Mungo 144K.

        Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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        • Greetings Pop Pickers

          Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 25th 1970

          Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders ''

          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 25th 1970 NME MM BMRB Total
          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 150 Points
          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
          1 1 All Right Now - Free 1 1 2 17850
          2 2 In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry 2 3 1 17300
          5 3 Lola - The Kinks 4 2 4 16700
          3 4 Up Around The Bend - Creedence Clearwater Revival 5 4 5 15850
          6 5 It's All In The Game - The Four Tops 3 5 6 15850
          11 6 Something - Shirley Bassey 6 7 7 14600
          16 7 The Wonder Of You - Elvis Presley 7 10 3 14250
          7 8 Love Of The Common People - Nicky Thomas 9 6 9 13950
          13 9 Lady D'Arbanville - Cat Stevens 8 8 11 13350
          4 10 Groovin' With Mr. Bloe - Mr. Bloe 11 9 14 12050
          9 11 Goodbye Sam Hello Samantha - Cliff Richard 10 11 12 12050
          8 12 Cottonfields - The Beach Boys 13 12 10 11500
          10 13 Sally - Gerry Monroe 12 13 13 11000
          24 14 Neanderthal Man - Hotlegs 15 15 8 10650
          12 15 Down The Dustpipe - Status Quo 17 14 16 9300
          21 16 I'll say Forever My Love - Jimmy Ruffin 14 19 15 8800
          19 17 Love Like A Man - Ten Years After 18 16 21 7850
          14 18 The Green Manalishi - Fleetwood Mac 20 17 17 7800
          15 19 Honey Come Back - Glen Campbell 19 18 19 7450
          23 20 (It's Like A) Sad Old Kinda Movie - Pickettywitch 16 21 23 6700
          26 21 Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell 23 20 20 6000
          17 22 Yellow River - Christie 24 22 18 5600
          NEW 23 Song Of Joy - Miguel Rios 22 23 26 4550
          29 24 Signed Sealed Delivered I'm Yours - Stevie Wonder 21 25 24 4550
          25 25 Everything Is Beautiful - Ray Stevens 26 28 22 3100
          20 26 Groupie Girl - Tony Joe White 27 24 2550
          18 27 Abraham Martin And John - Marvin Gaye 26 25 2150
          22 28 I Will Survive - Arrival 27 27 1600
          NEW 29 Natural Sinner - Fairweather 25 29 1500
          30 30 Where Are You Going To My Love - The Brotherhood Of Man 28 30 28 1300
          27 Up The Ladder To The Roof - The Supremes 29 500
          X Reach Out And Touch (Somebody's Hand) - Diana Ross 29 400
          B Rainbow - The Marmalade 30 30 350
          28 American Woman - Guess Who
          To The Definitive Music Paper Chart

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          • The entire top four singles this week are musical masterpieces of the time
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            • Two number 2's on MM chart?
              Keep the fire burning like the first time feeling

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              • Originally posted by BrainDamageII View Post
                Two number 2's on MM chart?
                Actually no - Free are 1 and the Kinks are 2, both non movers. The only tie-in that weeks MM chart is 32.
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                • Forgive me that was an erroneous entry on my part. I just noticed it after I posted and commented. Free are #1. Amended chart below guys.
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                  • The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 1st 1970 NME MM BMRB Total
                    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 150 Points
                    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                    1 1 All Right Now - Free 2 1 2 17650
                    3 2 Lola - The Kinks 1 2 3 17450
                    7 3 The Wonder Of You - Elvis Presley 3 3 1 17100
                    2 4 In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry 4 4 4 16200
                    6 5 Something - Shirley Bassey 5 5 5 15600
                    14 6 Neanderthal Man - Hotlegs 6 6 6 15000
                    5 7 It's All In The Game - The Four Tops 6 9 7 14100
                    4 8 Up Around The Bend - Creedence Clearwater Revival 8 8 8 13800
                    9 9 Lady D'Arbanville - Cat Stevens 9 7 10 13550
                    8 10 Love Of The Common People - Nicky Thomas 10 10 11 12450
                    16 11 I'll Say Forever My Love - Jimmy Ruffin 11 11 9 12300
                    17 12 Love Like A Man - Ten Years After 12 13 12 11150
                    12 13 Cottonfields - The Beach Boys 13 12 14 10900
                    11 14 Goodbye Sam Hello Samantha - Cliff Richard 14 15 13 10100
                    10 15 Groovin' With Mr. Bloe - Mr. Bloe 16 14 19 9050
                    21 16 Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell 17 16 17 8650
                    13 17 Sally - Gerry Monroe 18 17 15 8500
                    20 18 (It's Like A) Sad Old Kinda Movie - Pickettywitch 15 21 16 7950
                    24 19 Signed Sealed Delivered I'm Yours - Stevie Wonder 19 18 18 7600
                    15 20 Down The Dustpipe - Status Quo 21 19 24 6050
                    23 21 Song Of Joy - Miguel Rios 20 22 22 5800
                    19 22 Honey Come Back - Glen Campbell 23 23 21 5100
                    NEW 23 Rainbow - The Marmalade 22 25 20 4950
                    18 24 The Green Manalishi - Fleetwood Mac 24 20 27 4750
                    29 25 Natural Sinner - Fairweather 25 26 23 3650
                    30 26 Where Are You Going To My Love - The Brotherhood Of Man 27 24 26 3300
                    22 27 Yellow River - Christie 26 27 25 2900
                    26 28 Groupie Girl - Tony Joe White 29 29 900
                    NEW 29 The Long And Winding Road - Ray Morgan 28 750
                    NEW 30 Sweet Inspiration - Johnny Johnson and The Bandwagon 28 600
                    25 Everything Is Beautiful - Ray Stevens 28 450
                    B 25 Or 6 To 4 - Chicago 30 30 350
                    B Tears Of A Clown - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 29 300
                    B The Love You Save - The Jackson Five 30 250
                    X The Letter - Joe Cocker 30 200
                    27 Abraham Martin And John - Marvin Gaye
                    28 I Will Survive - Arrival
                    To The Definitive Music Paper Chart

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                    • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
                      Forgive me that was an erroneous entry on my part. I just noticed it after I posted and commented. Free are #1. Amended chart below guys.
                      I think you were just really wanting Lola to be number 1
                      Keep the fire burning like the first time feeling

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                      • Originally posted by BrainDamageII View Post

                        I think you were just really wanting Lola to be number 1
                        Damn, I've been caught out
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                        • Some interesting facts about the records in the chart. The Creedence record is not about somebody being mad, but about the state of the world in 1970. The band didn't know that in England in meant someone was crackers, so they had to make that clear in interviews to the music press.
                          The Joni Mitchell record had on the B side her song Woodstock, which she wrote afterwards, though she wasn't there! It would make number one later in the year for Mathews Southern Comfort.
                          Ray Morgan cashed in on the fact the Beatles had not issued The Long and Winding Road in the UK. The American version of the single was imported in the UK due to the fact many people were listening to the USA charts on the Radio or could see them in all the Music Papers at the time. However stocks of the record only meant it could reach 44 in the Real Chart.
                          Fairweather was of course Andy Fairweather Low's band, famous for Amen Corner and also had solo hits.
                          Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                          • I imagine Elvis was establishing a record at the time for the artist with the longest gap between number ones.

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                            • Greetings Pop Pickers

                              Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 8th 1970

                              Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders ''

                              The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 8th 1970 NME MM BMRB Total
                              Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 150 Points
                              Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                              3 1 The Wonder Of You - Elvis Presley 1 1 1 18000
                              2 2 Lola - The Kinks 2 2 2 17400
                              1 3 All Right Now - Free 3 3 4 16650
                              6 4 Neanderthal Man - Hotlegs 4 4 3 16350
                              5 5 Something - Shirley Bassey 5 5 5 15600
                              4 6 In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry 6 6 6 15000
                              11 7 I'll Say Forever My Love - Jimmy Ruffin 7 9 7 13900
                              9 8 Lady D'Arbanville - Cat Stevens 9 7 8 13850
                              7 9 It's All In The Game - The Four Tops 8 8 9 13650
                              12 10 Love Like A Man - Ten Years After 10 10 10 12600
                              8 11 Up Around The Bend - Creedence Clearwater Revival 11 11 11 12000
                              10 12 Love Of The Common People - Nicky Thomas 13 12 13 11050
                              16 13 Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell 14 13 12 10750
                              23 14 Rainbow - The Marmalade 12 14 14 10600
                              19 15 Signed Sealed Delivered I'm Yours - Stevie Wonder 15 15 15 9600
                              13 16 Cottonfields - The Beach Boys 17 16 19 8350
                              18 17 (It's Like A) Sad Old Kinda Movie - Pickettywitch 16 17 23 7700
                              14 18 Goodbye Sam Hello Samantha - Cliff Richard 20 18 18 7400
                              21 19 Song Of Joy - Miguel Rios 18 21 16 7350
                              25 20 Natural Sinner - Fairweather 19 22 17 6750
                              17 21 Sally - Gerry Monroe 23 20 20 6000
                              NEW 22 Tears Of A Clown - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 25 19 25 5100
                              NEW 23 The Love You Save - The Jackson Five 22 24 24 4600
                              26 24 Where Are You Going To My Love - The Brotherhood Of Man 21 27 22 4350
                              15 25 Groovin' With Mr. Bloe - Mr. Bloe 23 23 27 4200
                              NEW 26 25 Or 6 To 4 - Chicago 26 26 28 2700
                              27 27 Yellow River - Christie 28 21 2100
                              22 28 Honey Come Back - Glen Campbell 29 29 26 1650
                              29 29 The Long And Winding Road - Ray Morgan 25 1500
                              30 30 Sweet Inspiration - Johnny Johnson and The Bandwagon 27 29 1100
                              20 Down The Dustpipe - Status Quo 30 28 950
                              24 The Green Manalishi - Fleetwood Mac 30 30 400
                              28 Groupie Girl - Tony Joe White
                              To The Definitive Music Paper Chart

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                              • It's an older album track but what a wise move for Motown to issue Tears Of A Clown as a single. It will cry all the way to the top in a few weeks.
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                                • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
                                  It's an older album track but what a wise move for Motown to issue Tears Of A Clown as a single. It will cry all the way to the top in a few weeks.
                                  Tears of A Clown wasn't going to be issued as a single in the UK, but the woman who works at Motown Records UK, heard it on the album and phoned Smokey up and told him to release it in the UK and he did!
                                  Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                                  • Greetings Pop Pickers

                                    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 15th 1970

                                    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders ''

                                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 15th 1970 NME MM BMRB Total
                                    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 150 Points
                                    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                                    1 1 The Wonder Of You - Elvis Presley 1 1 1 18000
                                    4 2 Neanderthal Man - Hotlegs 2 3 2 17150
                                    2 3 Lola - The Kinks 3 2 3 17050
                                    5 4 Something - Shirley Bassey 4 4 4 16200
                                    3 5 All Right Now - Free 6 5 5 15400
                                    8 6 Lady D'Arbanville - Cat Stevens 5 6 12 14300
                                    7 7 I'll Say Forever My Love - Jimmy Ruffin 8 7 9 13900
                                    14 8 Rainbow - The Marmalade 9 8 7 13750
                                    10 9 Love Like A Man - Ten Years After 7 10 10 13200
                                    6 10 In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry 12 9 8 12750
                                    20 11 Natural Sinner - Fairweather 14 14 6 11400
                                    22 12 Tears Of A Clown - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 13 12 11 11350
                                    9 13 It's All In The Game - The Four Tops 11 13 14 11050
                                    13 14 Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell 15 11 13 10900
                                    15 15 Signed Sealed Delivered I'm Yours - Stevie Wonder 10 16 15 10350
                                    11 16 Up Around The Bend - Creedence Clearwater Revival 17 15 22 8150
                                    12 17 Love Of The Common People - Nicky Thomas 19 17 18 7850
                                    23 18 The Love You Save - The Jackson Five 16 20 17 7850
                                    19 19 Song Of Joy - Miguel Rios 17 18 21 7550
                                    26 20 25 Or 6 To 4 - Chicago 20 19 16 7450
                                    16 21 Cottonfields - The Beach Boys 23 21 19 5900
                                    17 22 (It's Like A) Sad Old Kinda Movie - Pickettywitch 21 22 24 5300
                                    18 23 Goodbye Sam Hello Samantha - Cliff Richard 25 23 20 4850
                                    30 24 Sweet Inspiration - Johnny Johnson and The Bandwagon 22 27 23 4000
                                    24 25 Where Are You Going To My Love - The Brotherhood Of Man 26 26 26 3000
                                    21 26 Sally - Gerry Monroe 24 27 2350
                                    NEW 27 Mr President - Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 28 27 1600
                                    29 28 The Long And Winding Road - Ray Morgan 25 1500
                                    NEW 29 It's So Easy - Andy Williams 24 1400
                                    25 30 Groovin' With Mr. Bloe - Mr. Bloe 27 30 29 1350
                                    27 Yellow River - Christie 25 900
                                    B Wild World - Jimmy Cliff 30 29 700
                                    Everything Is Beautiful - Ray Stevens 28 450
                                    B Make It With You - Bread 29 400
                                    B Mama Told Me Not To Come - Three Dog Night 30 150
                                    28 Honey Come Back - Glen Campbell
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                                    • The 27 record itself only credits D.B.M. & T. who were without Dave Dee who went solo, the band abbreviated their names to prevent confusion with the old line up, but it didn't work. It had been around the top 100 for six weeks by the time it entered the above countdown.
                                      Bread's first hit had been around for five weeks, largely on the back of being in the USA charts at this point. It would reach number five lasting 18 weeks in the charts and selling over 700K. The follow up single "It Don't Matter To Me" will only make 74 and spend just six weeks in the chart.
                                      Missing from the top 30 are The Who - Summertime Blues which was at 15, it only got to 38 on the BMRB chart.
                                      Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                                      • Great song by Hotlegs at number 2. If the 1970s UAC charts were to run for longer they'd have at least another number 1 (with 'I'm Not In Love') as 10cc. Or perhaps two as I'm not too sure about 'Dreadlock Holiday'...

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                                        • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
                                          Great song by Hotlegs at number 2. If the 1970s UAC charts were to run for longer they'd have at least another number 1 (with 'I'm Not In Love') as 10cc. Or perhaps two as I'm not too sure about 'Dreadlock Holiday'...
                                          Wot No Rubber Bullets!

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                                          • Good news for you both, if The Ultimate Averaged Chart had continued beyond March 1971 10cc would have gone to #1 with Rubber Bullets, I'm Not In Love, and Dreadlock Holiday. A class act they were
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                                            • Greetings Pop Pickers

                                              Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 22nd 1970

                                              Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders ''

                                              The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 22nd 1970 NME MM BMRB Total
                                              Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 150 Points
                                              Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
                                              1 1 The Wonder Of You - Elvis Presley 1 1 1 18000
                                              2 2 Neanderthal Man - Hotlegs 2 2 2 17400
                                              3 3 Lola - The Kinks 3 3 4 16650
                                              12 4 Tears Of A Clown - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 5 4 5 15850
                                              4 5 Something - Shirley Bassey 4 5 6 15650
                                              8 6 Rainbow - The Marmalade 6 6 3 15450
                                              11 7 Natural Sinner - Fairweather 7 10 8 13500
                                              5 8 All Right Now - Free 8 8 12 13200
                                              7 9 I'll Say Forever My Love - Jimmy Ruffin 12 7 10 12950
                                              9 10 Love Like A Man - Ten Years After 9 9 13 12600
                                              20 11 25 Or 6 To 4 - Chicago 10 11 14 11750
                                              18 12 The Love You Save - The Jackson Five 11 15 7 11600
                                              14 13 Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell 15 12 11 10950
                                              10 14 In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry 16 14 9 10550
                                              6 15 Lady D'Arbanville - Cat Stevens 14 13 17 10000
                                              15 16 Signed Sealed Delivered I'm Yours - Stevie Wonder 13 16 16 9600
                                              24 17 Sweet Inspiration - Johnny Johnson and The Bandwagon 18 18 15 8250
                                              19 18 Song Of Joy - Miguel Rios 19 19 18 7350
                                              NEW 19 Mama Told Me Not To Come - Three Dog Night 17 20 19 7350
                                              13 20 It's All In The Game - The Four Tops 20 17 30 5850
                                              NEW 21 Wild World - Jimmy Cliff 22 22 21 5550
                                              16 22 Up Around The Bend - Creedence Clearwater Revival 21 21 4500
                                              22 23 (It's Like A) Sad Old Kinda Movie - Pickettywitch 27 25 24 3350
                                              17 24 Love Of The Common People - Nicky Thomas 26 23 29 3300
                                              21 25 Cottonfields - The Beach Boys 28 24 25 3250
                                              NEW 26 Love Is Life - Hot Chocolate 30 27 20 2850
                                              NEW 27 I (Who Have Nothing) - Tom Jones 23 23 2800
                                              NEW 28 Make It With You - Bread 25 22 2550
                                              29 29 It's So Easy - Andy Williams 24 26 2150
                                              28 30 The Long And Winding Road - Ray Morgan 26 1250
                                              23 Goodbye Sam Hello Samantha - Cliff Richard 29 27 1100
                                              27 Mr President - Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 28 750
                                              25 Where Are You Going To My Love - The Brotherhood Of Man 29 500
                                              Yellow River - Christie 28 450
                                              B Give Me Just A Little More Time - The Chairmen Of The Board 29 400
                                              26 Sally - Gerry Monroe
                                              30 Groovin' With Mr. Bloe - Mr. Bloe
                                              To The Definitive Music Paper Chart

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                                              • Elvis is still totally dominant, nothing is dislodging him, yet, but Smokey Robinson hasn't challenged seriously .. yet !

                                                Some other faves of mine on this chart haven't had a mention yet so will do now. Joni Mitchell's wonderful Big Yellow Taxi, Hotlegs, Chicago, the sublime Make It With You from Bread, and Mama handing out advice us teenagers paid no heed to from Three Dog Night.

                                                I bought 'em all and blasted them out .. loud !
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                                                • Originally posted by Metalweb View Post

                                                  Wot No Rubber Bullets!
                                                  Oops, I forgot about that one!

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                                                  • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
                                                    Good news for you both, if The Ultimate Averaged Chart had continued beyond March 1971 10cc would have gone to #1 with Rubber Bullets, I'm Not In Love, and Dreadlock Holiday. A class act they were
                                                    I love 10cc although at times they could be a little bit too clever for their own good...

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