The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[MrTibbs]

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 23rd 1961

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 23rd 1961								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Tower Of Strength - Frankie Vaughan					1	1	1	1	1	1	9900
2	2	Moon River - Danny Williams					2	2	3	2	2	2	9510
6	3	Stranger On The Shore - Mr. Acker Bilk					3	3	2	3	3	6	9210
4	4	Midnight In Moscow - Kenny Ball					4	5	4	5	4	5	8690
3	5	Take Good Care Of My Baby - Bobby Vee					5	6	5	4	5	3	8670
11	6	Johnny Will - Pat Boone					6	6	6	6	6	4	8310
16	7	Let There Be Drums - Sandy Nelson					7	4	8	9	8	15	7590
13	8	My Friend The Sea - Petula Clark					9	11	11	10	9	7	6930
10	9	I'll Get By - Shirley Bassey					10	8	10	12	13	12	6660
14	10	So Long Baby - Del Shannon					8	13	19	8	7	11	6490
7	11	Walkin' Back To Happiness - Helen Shapiro					12	9	9	14	15	9	6410
5	12	His Latest Flame / Little Sister - Elvis Presley					11	16	15	7	12	10	6380
12	13	Take Five - Dave Brubeck					13	12	12	15	16	20	5500
8	14	Big Bad John - Jimmy Dean					14	15	14	11		8	5190
21	15	Toy Balloons - Russ Conway					19	19	7	17	17	14	5150
9	16	The Time Has Come - Adam Faith					16	22	16	13	14	13	4990
20	17	When The Girl In Your Arms Is The Girl In Your Heart / Got A Funny Feeling - Cliff Richard						23	13	16		17	3790
29	18	Happy Birthday Sweet Sixteen - Neil Sedaka					17	10	18		18	24	3320
17	19	I'd Never Find Another You - Billy Fury					15	16			11	21	2500
NEW	20	I Understand - The G-Clefs							20	18		19	2450
19	21	I Cried For You - Ricky Stevens						16		20			2410
24	22	I Love How You Love Me - Jimmy Crawford							17	19		26	2310
26	23	Don't Bring Lulu - Dorothy Provine					20	13				25	1620
22	24	You're The Only Good Thing - Jim Reeves						21				18	1190
30	25	Son This Is She - John Leyton					18				10		1050
28	26	Mrs. Mills Medley - Mrs. Mills						20				30	910
25	27	Baby's First Christmas - Connie Francis						29			19		760
27	28	Bambino - The Springfields						25				23	720
15	29	The Savage - The Shadows						28				16	690
NEW	30	Multiplication - Bobby Darin						24				27	680
		Goodbye Cruel World - James Darren						30			20		630
		Charleston - The Temperance Seven						26				28	490
		Give Us A Kiss For Christmas - Lionel Bart						27					320
		Runaround Sue - Dion										22	270
		King Kong - Terry Lightfoot						30					80
		This Time - Troy Shondell										29	60

[kjell]

Billy also made made standout recordings that weren’t single hits.

[Splodj]

Wikipedia has 5 acts beating Acker's 45 consecutive weeks in the Top 40, but the earliest of these is in 2013. He is the only one with uninterrupted longevity from the era of high record sales.

It is when you open it up to non-consecutive weeks that My Way does well, particularly as a non-Christmas recurrent.

[MrTibbs]

I've just finished compiling August 4th 1962 and 'Stranger' is still Top 20 on its 36th consecutive week there equalling Frankie Laine's record of 36 weeks in the Top 12 back in 1953 with I Believe, but it looks likely 'Stranger' will drop out next week. That said though Acker did it with lots more competition around.

A lot has since been made of Sinatra's My Way record beating longevity but most of that was spent hovering around the lower reaches of the Top 50. He never came anywhere close to 36 weeks in the Top 20 though.

I can't think off the top of my head though if anyone since Acker has spent 36 consecutive weeks in the Top 20 and is he still the last to hold that record, or does anyone know better ?

[MrTibbs]

17 I'd Never Find Another You - Billy Fury

Not to be confused with the Seeker's 1965 hit "I'll Never Find Another You".

I've got to say between 1961 and 1965 Billy recorded some standout chart hits. He was a class act and I think hugely undervalued. He could hold his own with the best of them between those years.

[brian05]

17 I'd Never Find Another You - Billy Fury

Not to be confused with the Seeker's 1965 hit "I'll Never Find Another You".

[Splodj]

Release date 24th November means only 2 days of sales for inclusion in w/e 2nd December chart, release date 17th November means 9 days of sales.

[Splodj]

Wikipedia says 'Stranger on the shore' was released in October, although provides no source. The TV series started on 24th September https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/81def5f2...9d62fb18db9037 so this is possible. On the other hand it is also possible that with the TV exposure demand could have built up sufficiently for it to reach the charts on 2 days sales.

The description of number one as 'pole position' reminds me of the Big L Top 40 show when Tony Windsor would say: "We start with the record at our anchor position."

Mrs Mills first appearance this week, in the good old British pub-type pianist tradition of Winifred Atwell and Russ Conway.

[Gambo]

^ Off-topic really but some fascinating stats there! I was vaguely aware of this record having had a significant stranglehold in the Danish charts for a long time in the '00s but wasn't cognisant of just how long that was, albeit of course down in part to the steep decline in physical CD sales and digital downloads being yet to be counted in their official chart.

Back to the Sixties (sorry didn't mean to make a naff eighties Tight Fit reference there!) - I have a completed list of the known/believed official million-selling singles in the UK on paid-for sales which includes various pieces of key information about each single. I say "complete" as it's not quite there for a few entries - I always include the original release date, which I've not managed to pin down for 'Stranger On The Shore' (which according to OCC's Feb '20 update was the 95th biggest-seller at around 1.19m). As it first appears in charts week-ending Sat 2 Dec '61 I have assumed it was Nov. As its maiden appearance on the UAC works out as high as No 18, can I safely assume that its release date was Fri 24 Nov '61 as its first two days of sales would've been sufficient to land it at such a high combined position first week?

Thanks.

[ACA]

A contender for the longest run at #1 in any national chart would be Trine Dyrholm, a Danish singer/songwriter/actress, and the song "Avenuen" (Mr. Nice Guy EP) which entered the Danish Top 20 in December 2004. The first half of 2005 it was in and out of the Top 20, but during the second half of 2005 it started to progress, and on Sept. 9th 2005 it reached the pole position for the first time.
The longest span (of 11 occasions) at # 1 was 18 weeks in late 2006 and the beginning of 2007. When the Danish charts officially began to include downloads by November 2007 its days were counted. But in the span of almost three years it spent 62 non-consecutive weeks at #1, a total of 135 weeks in the Top 20, and 151 weeks in the not openly published Top 50.
This was a time when singles sales were very low and beta charts including downloads from 2006-2007 tells a different story. According to those charts it notched up 41 weeks of which 6 weeks were spent at # 1. Last appearance in this chart was Jan. 19th 2007.

[MrTibbs]

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 16th 1961

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 16th 1961								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Tower Of Strength - Frankie Vaughan					1	1	1	1	1	1	9900
4	2	Moon River - Danny Williams					3	2	2	3	3	2	9410
2	3	Take Good Care Of My Baby - Bobby Vee					2	3	3	2	2	3	9400
9	4	Midnight In Moscow - Kenny Ball					4	5	5	5	4	7	8570
3	5	His Latest Flame / Little Sister - Elvis Presley					5	8	4	4	5	5	8510
12	6	Stranger On The Shore - Mr. Acker Bilk					6	4	7	8	8	14	7790
8	7	Walkin' Back To Happiness - Helen Shapiro					9	11	6	9	9	4	7430
5	8	Big Bad John - Jimmy Dean					8	16	8	6	7	6	7280
6	9	The Time Has Come - Adam Faith					7	13	16	7	6	9	6890
10	10	I'll Get By - Shirley Bassey					10	6	12	13	11	10	6750
19	11	Johnny Will - Pat Boone					12	7	14	11	13	11	6640
7	12	Take Five - Dave Brubeck					11	10	15	12	12	13	6220
18	13	My Friend The Sea - Petula Clark					13	12	13	14	10	8	6210
20	14	So Long Baby - Del Shannon					14	14	10	10	15	20	6060
11	15	The Savage - The Shadows					16	18	9	15	14	12	5540
NEW	16	Let There Be Drums - Sandy Nelson					15	8	11	17	19	27	5300
NEW	17	I'd Never Find Another You - Billy Fury					18=	19	18	19	18		3710
14	18	Runaround Sue - Dion					17	25		16	17	15	3310
23	19	I Cried For You - Ricky Stevens					18=	15		20			2490
16	20	When The Girl In Your Arms Is The Girl In Your Heart / Got A Funny Feeling - Cliff Richard						29		18		18	1980
22	21	Toy Balloons - Russ Conway						20	20			23	1780
13	22	You're The Only Good Thing - Jim Reeves					20	24			16	17	1730
21	23	Charleston - The Temperance Seven						22	20			29	1440
24	24	I Love How You Love Me - Jimmy Crawford						27			20	21	1170
NEW	25	Baby's First Christmas - Connie Francis						27	17				1160
25	26	Don't Bring Lulu - Dorothy Provine						17				30	1150
30	27	Bambino - The Springfields						25				16	930
NEW	28	Mrs. Mills Medley - Mrs. Mills						21					800
NEW	29	Happy Birthday Sweet Sixteen - Neil Sedaka						22					720
NEW	30	Son This Is She - John Leyton							19				720
		I Understand - The G-Clefs						30				19	440
		Hit The Road Jack - Ray Charles										22	270
		Mexicali Rose - Karl Denver										24	210
		This Time - Troy Shondell										25	180
		Creole Jazz / Stars And Stripes - Mr. Acker Bilk										26	150
		Susu Sucu - Nina and Frederick										28	90
		September In The Rain - Dinah Washington						30					80

[MrTibbs]

On the 9th December chart, Nat King Cole is a re-entry.

Corrected

[braindeadpj]

On the 9th December chart, Nat King Cole is a re-entry.

[Graham76man]

Talking about the longest running number one, the original version of 'Bambino' by Dalida spent 45 weeks at number one in France. A world record?

Well it certainly wasn't going to be ABBA and Waterloo that spent the longest at the top of the French charts

I couldn't say about the longest at the top for a world record. I did a Google search and all you get is UK and USA number ones, expanded it to World and it turns into Tennis results. Even the Guinness World records site has no results, except the UK and USA ones.

[Splodj]

I tend to use it when there's a lot more posts have been written and the subject matter appears to have died,

If a lot more posts have been written the comment is more likely to be missed. I have seen some of your comments only weeks later when I happened to be looking back at an old page. I think the best way of replying is in a new post, with the bit you are replying to quoted at the top.

[Metalweb]

^

According to Nanda Lwin's Canadian Chart Book Elton's single spent a total of 45 (non-consecutive) weeks at No.1 on the SoundScan Top 200 singles chart (beginning on 21/9/97).

[Gambo]

Talking about the longest running number one, the original version of 'Bambino' by Dalida spent 45 weeks at number one in France. A world record?

The Springfield's were soon to become the first British group to make the Billboard Top 20 with 'Silver threads and golden needles' which appears to have flopped in the UK.

Sounds likely although I remember reading around the turn of the century that Elton John's re-recorded 'Candle In The Wind' to mark the Princess of Wales' passing had racked up 45 weeks at No 1 in Canada druing 1997-'99! I have not checked this so don't know if it was correct, whether it was using Canada's official chart, whether it was consecutive or aggregated, etc. But if it is, it would at least match the tenure of 'Bambino' in France.

[Robbie]

I tend to use it when there's a lot more posts have been written and the subject matter appears to have died, I assume that site supporters can't comment on their own posts, hence why Robbie in that instance couldn't comment.

I can comment on my own post (I've just tried it, I didn't even think of doing that to be honest!) but I don't know if it sends a notification to yourself. I'm assuming it doesn't, in which case you wouldn't know I had replied to your comment.

[Robbie]

Test

[Graham76man]

Yeah I deliberately choose not to use it for the very reason Robbie mentions above, that you cannot use the comment as a quote to expand on a topic.

I tend to use it when there's a lot more posts have been written and the subject matter appears to have died, I assume that site supporters can't comment on their own posts, hence why Robbie in that instance couldn't comment.

Having just posted this post, I find that my last statement to be incorrect, as the comment option does appear on my own posts. This means that you could add a comment to somebody else's comment, you just need to add something like: "re:name" to the comment as it won't let you quote directly. If you can't comment and you are allowed, then contact UKMIX and report a fault.

[Splodj]

Talking about the longest running number one, the original version of 'Bambino' by Dalida spent 45 weeks at number one in France. A world record?

The Springfield's were soon to become the first British group to make the Billboard Top 20 with 'Silver threads and golden needles' which appears to have flopped in the UK.

[MrTibbs]

Jimmy Crawford charts with I Love How You Love Me while the superior Paris Sisters original is ignored here

[MrTibbs]

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 9th 1961

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 9th 1961								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
3	1	Tower Of Strength - Frankie Vaughan					1	1	1	1	1	1	9900
2	2	Take Good Care Of My Baby - Bobby Vee					2	3	2	2	2	4	9430
1	3	His Latest Flame / Little Sister - Elvis Presley					3=	4	3	3	3	2	9190
5	4	Moon River - Danny Williams					3=	2	4	4	4	5	9040
4	5	Big Bad John - Jimmy Dean					5	6	6	5	5	3	8500
6	6	The Time Has Come - Adam Faith					6	10	5	6	6	6	7990
8	7	Take Five - Dave Brubeck					8	5	7	8	10	8	7790
7	8	Walkin' Back To Happiness - Helen Shapiro					7	9	8	7	7	7	7700
11	9	Midnight In Moscow - Kenny Ball					9	8	10	10	8	9	7220
13	10	I'll Get By - Shirley Bassey					10	7	9	11	11	10	7070
9	11	The Savage - The Shadows					11	12	11	9	9	11	6840
18	12	Stranger On The Shore - Mr. Acker Bilk					12	11	13	14	12	16	5950
24	13	You're The Only Good Thing - Jim Reeves					14	15	12	19	14	19	4950
12	14	Runaround Sue - Dion					13	13		13	13	13	4860
14	15	Hit The Road Jack - Ray Charles					15	18	18	16	16	17	4640
10	16	When The Girl In Your Arms Is The Girl In Your Heart / Got A Funny Feeling - Cliff Richard					17	24	16	12		12	4120
15	17	Mexicali Rose - Karl Denver					19	20		18	17	14	3520
21	18	My Friend The Sea - Petula Clark					16	25		17	15	15	3300
NEW	19	Johnny Will - Pat Boone						17	15	20			3290
NEW	20	So Long Baby - Del Shannon					18	21		15	19		3160
NEW	21	Charleston - The Temperance Seven						16	14				2220
NEW	22	Toy Balloons - Russ Conway						23	17				1480
NEW	23	I Cried For You - Ricky Stevens					20	14					1360
NEW	24	I Love How You Love Me - Jimmy Crawford						28			20	18	1180
26	25	Don't Bring Lulu - Dorothy Provine						18					1040
RE	26	Let True Love Begin - Nat King Cole						28	19				960
RE	27	Everlovin' - Ricky Nelson							20			23	900
23	28	I'm A Moody Guy - Shane Fenton and The Fentones									18	25	830
17	29	You Must Have Been A Beatiful Baby - Bobby Darin						22				28	810
NEW	30	Bambino - The Springfields						27				20	650
		Moon River - Henry Mancini						25					480
		Sucu Sucu - Laurie Johnson										21	300
		This Time - Troy Shondell										22	270
		Tall Dark Stranger - Rose Brennan						28					240
		Let's Get Together - Hayley Mills										24	210
		Creole Jazz / Stars And Stripes - Mr. Acker Bilk										26	150
		Wild Wind - John Leyton										27	120
		I Understand - The G-Clefs										29	60
		Bless You - Tony Orlando										30	30

[MrTibbs]

Until Acker Bilk, Frankie Laine held the record for consecutive week chart residency, 36 weeks for I Believe in 1953, Only NME of course compiled a record chart at that time and it was only a Top 12 with much less competition.

Still to date, I Believe is the all time record holder for weeks at the top of the singles chart. 18 weeks. A few have got within striking distance but fell at the last hurdle. It was in 3 runs at the top though, 9 weeks, 6 weeks, and 3 weeks.

[MrTibbs]

Yeah I deliberately choose not to use it for the very reason Robbie mentions above, that you cannot use the comment as a quote to expand on a topic.