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  • I’m waiting for 1956 and one performer in particular….
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    • Skiffle was more acceptable than Rock & Roll to the BBC. The programme Saturday Club started as Saturday Skiffle Club.

      Pick Of The Pops had begun in Oct-55, but featuring only new releases.
      Last edited by Splodj; Sat September 11, 2021, 08:39.

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      • Originally posted by BrainDamageII View Post

        I think the problem is there are not many people who were around at the time who read this thread. Looking at the songs in these charts there are very very few played on the radio apart from the obvious. Once we get to the third chart and the Elvis era I'm sure the comments will increase.

        Keep going, these charts are fantastic.
        Indeed. Most of the songs from this era I know only from the title.

        Unbelievable though to think that the records in these charts were released more than 65 years ago.

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        • Lonnie, I prefer his 57 Putting on the style. Maybe that’s what you kind of do?

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          • Yes, I liked that one and it is one of the best. Cumberland Gap is also a really good belter of a song. Hopefully a number 1 on the Ultimate listing
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            Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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            • Greetings Pop Pickers

              Here is the last chart for 1955. As RM didn't compile a chart for this week it only features the NME chart so not really an 'Ultimate' chart.
              So as this is the case I will follow it straight up with the Ultimate Averaged Chart for the first week of 1956. The 7th January, and the dawning of the 'Skiffle' era.

              Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 31st 1955

              Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

              The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 31st 1955 NME RM Total
              Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
              Week Week The Top 25 Singles Chart 25 Scored
              1 1 Christmas Alphabet - Dickie Valentine 1 1500
              2 2 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets 2 1440
              4 3 Meet Me On The Corner - Max Bygraves 3 1380
              5 4 Let's Have A Ding Dong - Winifred Atwell 4 1320
              3 5 Love Is A Many Splendoured Thing - The Four Aces 5 1260
              6 6 Twenty Tiny Fingers - The Stargazers 6 1200
              8 7 Hawkeye - Frankie Laine 7 1140
              7 8 Suddenly There's A Valley - Petula Clark 8 1080
              16 9 Join In And Sing Again - The Johnston Brothers 9 1020
              15 10 Never Do A Tango With An Eskimo - Alma Cogan 10 960
              9 11 Yellow Rose Of Texas - Mitch Miller 11 900
              11 12 When You Lose The One You Love - David Whitfield and Mantovani 12 840
              14 13 Suddenly There's A Valley - Jo Stafford 13 780
              10 14 Ain't That A Shame - Pat Boone 14 720
              13 15 Hernando's Hideaway - The Johnston Brothers 15 660
              26 16 Someone On Your Mind - Jimmy Young 16 600
              24 17 Arrivederci Darling - Anne Shelton 17 540
              RE 18 Let's Get Together Again - The Big Ben Banjo Band 18 480
              28 18 Old Pianna Rag - Dickie Valentine 18 480
              27 20 Bluebell Polka - Jimmy Shand 20 360
              NEW 21 Rock A Beatin' Boogie - Bill Haley and His Comets 21 300
              17 22 Suddenly There's A Valley - Lee Lawrence 22 240
              20 23 Seventeen - Boyd Bennett 23 180
              23 24 Tina Marie - Perry Como 24 120
              25 25 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell 25 60
              12 The Very First Christmas Of All - Ruby Murray
              18 The Shifting Whispering Sands - Billy Vaughan
              19 Cloudburst - Don Lang
              22 On With The Motley - Harry Secombe
              21 Suddenly There's A Valley - Julius La Rosa
              * Record Mirror did not compile a chart for this week
              ** NME compiled a Top 25 this week
              The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

              The Way It Was Meant To Be

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              • The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 7th 1956 NME RM Total
                Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
                Week Week The Top 26 Singles Chart 20 Scored
                2 1 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets 1 1 2240
                5 2 Love Is A Many Splendoured Thing - The Four Aces 3 2 2068
                3 3 Meet Me On The Corner - Max Bygraves 2 5 1972
                21 4 Rock A Beatin' Boogie - Bill Haley and His Comets 5 3 1896
                1 5 Christmas Alphabet - Dickie Valentine 9 4 1604
                6 6 Twenty Tiny Fingers - The Stargazers 4 10 1592
                4 7 Let's Have A Ding Dong - Winifred Atwell 10 6 1440
                14 8 Ain't That A Shame - Pat Boone 12 7 1268
                NEW 9 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes 13 9 1104
                8 10 Suddenly There's A Valley - Petula Clark 7 17 1048
                12 11 When You Lose The One You Love - David Whitfield and Mantovani 11 14 964
                10 12 Never Do A Tango With An Eskimo - Alma Cogan 6 20 952
                NEW 13 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 17 8 916
                7 14 Hawkeye - Frankie Laine 8 780
                NEW 15 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford 18 11 700
                25 16 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell 20 12 528
                16 17 Someone On Your Mind - Jimmy Young 14 420
                24 18 Tina Marie - Perry Como 13 416
                18 19 Old Pianna Rag - Dickie Valentine 15 360
                11 20 Yellow Rose Of Texas - Mitch Miller 15 312
                13 21 Suddenly There's A Valley - Jo Stafford 16 300
                RE 22 The Shifting Whispering Sands - Billy Vaughan 16 260
                RE 23 Cloudburst - Don Lang 18 156
                17 24 Arrivederci Darling - Anne Shelton 19 120
                NEW 25 Arrivederci Darling - Edna Savage 19 104
                NEW 26 Sixteen Tons - Frankie Laine 20 52
                9 Join In And Sing Again - The Johnston Brothers
                15 Hernando's Hideaway - The Johnston Brothers
                18 Let's Get Together Again - The Big Ben Banjo Band
                20 The Bluebell Polka - Jimmy Shand
                22 Suddenly There's A Valley - Lee Lawrence
                23 Seventeen - Boyd Bennett
                The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                • 1955 was already given a shake towards the end of the year with the arrival of Bill Haley and His Comets. 1956 in its first week heralds in more change in its first week with another entry by Bill and also a high new entry by an artist called Lonnie Donegan. Nobody at this time was aware, YET, of the impact he was gonna have.

                  No doubt about it, even with this first hit Lonnie is years ahead of his time with his music and has not really been given due credit for this or how he contributed in a major way to shaping music in years to come. Haley, Elvis and Cliff always seemed to steal the glory in the music press, but without a doubt Lonnie was second only to Elvis as the major innovator of new music in the fifties.

                  Rock On !
                  The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                  The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                  • Lonnie Donegan was extremely versatile starting with dixieland jazz which in fact was my favorite jazz while attending upper secondary school in Molde, Norways foremost jazz city. He progressed into folk and blues before he made the skifte craze happen. Not only did he have a major influence on the early Beatles then named Quarrymen, but also on the Rolling Stones. Lonnie was self made and innovative while Elvis was lead by others. By the way, listen to «My old man’s a dustman».

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                    • I am biased... but yes, Lonnie Donegan was fantastic and a true pioneer. He also knew how to get every cent which was one of the things which held him back a little. He always charged top dollar, meaning the BBC failed to hire him on numerous occasions. On the plus side, he had his own TV series (Putting On The Donegan) which do all still exists as they where made for ITA (ITV). I met him once - I'll tell that story later on
                      http://thechartbook.co.uk - for the latest are best chart book - By Decade!
                      Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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                      • Why is Rock Island Line only entering in 1956 when it had been recorded in July 1954?

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                        • The record company put out other singles from the album first (as Lonnie told the story on his This Ye The Story show in the 1990’s) and they sold like hot cakes. They ran out so stuck the ‘weird Skiffle stuff’ out as an after thought and it exploded. Again, this is his version. Not heard a different story.
                          http://thechartbook.co.uk - for the latest are best chart book - By Decade!
                          Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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                          • And it's gonna hang around and yo yo for weeks to come
                            The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                            The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                            • Originally posted by kingofskiffle View Post
                              The record company put out other singles from the album first (as Lonnie told the story on his This Ye The Story show in the 1990’s) and they sold like hot cakes. They ran out so stuck the ‘weird Skiffle stuff’ out as an after thought and it exploded. Again, this is his version. Not heard a different story.
                              That sounds like a reasonable explanation in general, but the 'hot cakes' sounds a bit of an exaggeration as I don't think any made the charts.

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                              • True, but then hot cakes for Jazz - or hot cakes vs what they where expecting. If they thought they'd sell 1,000 copies and sold 15,000 then that's hot cakes (even if that was not enough to make the charts because those 15,000 where sold over a full year rather than in a few weeks.).

                                And yes, they did make the RM chart, but lower down. Lots are listed in the Hits That Missed book. 2 singles from the album charted in 1955 and the album itself charted in later 1954/early 1955.
                                http://thechartbook.co.uk - for the latest are best chart book - By Decade!
                                Now including NME, Record Mirror and Melody Maker from the UK and some Billboard charts

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                                • Greetings Pop Pickers

                                  Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 14th 1956

                                  Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

                                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 14th 1956 NME RM Total
                                  Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
                                  Week Week The Top 24 Singles Chart 20 Scored
                                  1 1 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets 1 2 2188
                                  15 2 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford 2 1 2180
                                  2 3 Love Is A Many Splendoured Thing - The Four Aces 3 4 1964
                                  4 4 Rock A Beatin' Boogie - Bill Haley and His Comets 4 5 1852
                                  9 5 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes 7 3 1776
                                  3 6 Meet Me On The Corner - Max Bygraves 5 8 1636
                                  NEW 7 Love And Marriage - Frank Sinatra 9 7 1448
                                  NEW 8 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Tennessee Ernie Ford 11 6 1380
                                  6 9 Twenty Tiny Fingers - The Stargazers 8 17 988
                                  11 10 When You Lose The One You Love - David Whitfield and Mantovani 12 13 956
                                  12 11 Never Do A Tango With An Eskimo - Alma Cogan 6 20 952
                                  16 12 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell 15 10 932
                                  13 13 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 16 9 924
                                  10 14 Suddenly There's A Valley - Petula Clark 10 16 920
                                  8 15 Ain't That A Shame - Pat Boone 17 12 708
                                  23 16 Cloudburst - Don Lang 20 11 580
                                  17 17 Someone On Your Mind - Jimmy Young 13 480
                                  14 18 Hawkeye - Frankie Laine 14 420
                                  22 19 The Shifting Whispering Sands - Billy Vaughan 14 364
                                  26 20 Sixteen Tons - Frankie Laine 15 312
                                  19 21 Old Pianna Rag - Dickie Valentine 18 180
                                  NEW 22 Robin Hood- Gary Miller 20 19 164
                                  NEW 23 Groce Di Oro - Joan Regan 18 156
                                  25 24 Arrivederci Darling - Edna Savage 19 120
                                  5 Christmas Alphabet - Dickie Valentine
                                  7 Let's Have A Ding Dong - Winifred Atwell
                                  18 Tina Marie - Perry Como
                                  21 Suddenly There's A Valley - Jo Stafford
                                  20 Yellow Rose Of Texas - Mitch Miller
                                  24 Arrivederci Darling - Anne Shelton
                                  The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                  The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                  • Tennessee Ernie takes a LEAP from 15 to 2 and has a high debut in the Top Ten with 'Davee Crockett'. I actually preferred his version over Bill Hayes's smarmy patronising version.

                                    A UK hero too makes a debut this week in the form of 'Robin Hood' courtesy of Gary Miller. I remember the TV series well with Richard Greene in the starring role. If I remember correctly, although I may be wrong, It was Dick James who sang the theme in the TV programme. His version will chart soon too.

                                    All together now, 'Robin Hood Robin Hood, riding through the glen'


                                    The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                    The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                    • kingofskiffle
                                      kingofskiffle commented
                                      Editing a comment
                                      It was indeed Dick James who sang the theme to the series on the closing credits. The Hancock episode Ericson the Viking is an excellent Robin Hood parody.

                                  • It may be worth recalling that in the exercise to create early Record Mirror charts from their dealer returns 'Rock Around The Clock' featured in the 11-20 section for a few weeks in late 1954. It didn't appear in the NME Top 20 during that period, so the 'official' story is that 'Shake Rattle and Roll' was the first to chart. But a more accurate description is that 'Rock Around The Clock' sold first, then Shake Rattle and Roll" sold more, then 'Rock Around The Clock' sold much more. This would have shown up had there been Top 30s at the time.

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                                    • If I remember correctly it was when Rock Around The Clock was used in the film The Blackboard Jungle in 1955 that it took off again chartwise.
                                      The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                      The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                      • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post

                                        A UK hero too makes a debut this week in the form of 'Robin Hood' courtesy of Gary Miller. I remember the TV series well with Richard Greene in the starring role. If I remember correctly, although I may be wrong, It was Dick James who sang the theme in the TV programme. His version will chart soon too.

                                        All together now, 'Robin Hood Robin Hood, riding through the glen'

                                        Dick James went into song publishing and it was him that got the early Beatles material. He later went on to form Dick James Music and the record label DJM, so important to the future work of Elton John.
                                        Several chart shows used the arrow hitting a target sound at the start of the show to represent a new entry on the charts.
                                        By the way the myths about Robin Hood include splitting an arrow with another arrow. It simply can't be done! And whoever he was, he never was connected with Nottingham. Spelled "Snottingham" at the time he was on the go. A farmstead connected with somebody called "Snot". He couldn't help if he had a runny nose all the time, but the Saxon's were a bit crude like that!
                                        Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                                        • Greetings Pop Pickers

                                          Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 21st 1956

                                          Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

                                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 21st 1956 NME RM Total
                                          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
                                          Week Week The Top 24 Singles Chart 20 Scored
                                          2 1 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford 1 1 2240
                                          5 2 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes 2 2 2128
                                          7 3 Love And Marriage - Frank Sinatra 3 5 1912
                                          3 4 Love Is A Many Splendoured Thing - The Four Aces 5 3 1896
                                          4 5 Rock A Beatin' Boogie - Bill Haley and His Comets 4 6 1800
                                          1 6 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets 6 4 1784
                                          8 7 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Tennessee Ernie Ford 7 7 1568
                                          13 8 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 10 8 1336
                                          NEW 9 (Love Is) The Tender Trap - Frank Sinatra 9 11 1240
                                          6 10 Meet Me On The Corner - Max Bygraves 8 13 1196
                                          10 11 When You Lose The One You Love - David Whitfield and Mantovani 14 10 992
                                          12 12 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell 13 12 948
                                          11 13 Never Do A Tango With An Eskimo - Alma Cogan 12 16 800
                                          14 14 Suddenly There's A Valley - Petula Clark 15 15 672
                                          19 15 The Shifting Whispering Sands - Billy Vaughan 9 624
                                          20 16 Sixteen Tons - Frankie Laine 11 600
                                          22 17 Robin Hood - Gary Miller (B) 19 13 536
                                          NEW 18 Robin Hood - Dick James 17 18 396
                                          9 19 Twenty Tiny Fingers - The Stargazers 16 300
                                          15 20 Ain't That A Shame - Pat Boone 17 208
                                          17 21 Someone On Your Mind - Jimmy Young 18 180
                                          NEW 22 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Gary Miller (A) 18 156
                                          NEW 23 The Shifting Whispering Sands - Eamonn Andrews 20 60
                                          24 24 Arrivederci Darling - Edna Savage 20 52
                                          16 Cloudburst - Don Lang
                                          18 Hawkeye - Frankie Laine
                                          21 Old Pianna Rag - Dickie Valentine
                                          23 Groce Di Oro - Joan Regan
                                          The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                          The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                          • After pausing for a second week at #13 last week Lonnie Donegan cracks the Top Ten with his first hit this week.
                                            Frank Sinatra joins Tennessee Ernie and Bill Haley in having two records in the Top Ten.
                                            Dick James charts this week with his version of Robin Hood. Gary Miller's 'Davee Crockett' joins the other two versions on the chart.
                                            The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                            The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                            • Greetings Pop Pickers

                                              Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 28th 1956

                                              Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

                                              The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 28th 1956 NME RM Total
                                              Last This The Sound Survey Stores 60 52 Points
                                              Week Week The Top 23 Singles Chart 20 Scored
                                              1 1 Sixteen Tons - Tennessee Ernie Ford 1 1 2240
                                              2 2 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Bill Hayes 2 2 2128
                                              7 3 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Tennessee Ernie Ford 3 4 1964
                                              3 4 Love And Marriage - Frank Sinatra 4 3 1956
                                              4 5 Love Is A Many Splendoured Thing - The Four Aces 5 6 1740
                                              9 6 (Love Is) The Tender Trap - Frank Sinatra 6 5 1732
                                              5 7 Rock A Beatin' Boogie - Bill Haley and His Comets 7 7 1568
                                              6 8 Rock Around The Clock - Bill Haley and His Comets 8 8 1456
                                              8 9 Rock Island Line - Lonnie Donegan 9 9 1344
                                              11 10 When You Lose The One You Love - David Whitfield and Mantovani 11 10 1172
                                              12 11 Pickin' A Chicken - Eve Boswell 12 13 956
                                              17 12 Robin Hood - Gary Miller (B) 13 12 948
                                              NEW 13 Only You - The Hilltoppers 14 11 940
                                              16 14 Sixteen Tons - Frankie Laine 10 18 816
                                              10 15 Meet Me On The Corner - Max Bygraves 15 16 620
                                              15 16 The Shifting Whispering Sands - Billy Vaughan 20 13 476
                                              NEW 17 Zambesi - Lou Busch 18 17 388
                                              NEW 18 Dreams Can Tell A Lie - Nat King Cole 18 18 336
                                              NEW 19 Yellow Rose Of Texas - Stan Freberg 15 312
                                              18 20 Robin Hood - Dick James 16 300
                                              14 21 Suddenly There's A Valley - Petula Clark 17 240
                                              23 22 The Shifting Whispering Sands - Eamonn Andrews 20 20 112
                                              NEW 23 With Your Love - Malcolm Vaughan 20 60
                                              13 Never Do A Tango With An Eskimo - Alma Cogan
                                              19 Twenty Tiny Fingers - The Stargazers
                                              21 Someone On Your Mind - Jimmy Young
                                              20 Ain't That A Shame - Pat Boone
                                              24 Arrivederci Darling - Edna Savage
                                              22 Ballad Of Davy Crockett - Gary Miller (A)
                                              The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                              The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                              • Although I can appreciate from some of your earlier comments that some guys find this period of chart history less interesting than later years I at least hope that if for no other reason the fact that all charts (NME and RM at the present and MM and Disc joining later) are presented side by side to make comparisons easier and in many cases more accurate than in some books over the years give you pleasure and reading enjoyment.
                                                To this end I have used the original charts where available, supplemented by other later books etc where original errors needed to be corrected to ensure each music paper chart is now 100% correct. Your input along the way with erroneous entries and typos I made also contributed greatly towards achieving this goal.

                                                I believe that this alone, if you wish to disregard The Ultimate Averaged Chart itself, makes the project viable, factual, and relevant.

                                                By the time I conclude this section this thread will therefore contain an accurate listing of all the major charts' top 20/30 positions, week by week, side by side, position by position, for comparison and overview, for the first time anywhere (I think), between October 1955 and March 1971.

                                                The bonus of course is the averaging process added to this, The Ultimate Averaged Chart, not official, not sales based, open to criticism but at least thorough, accurate, methodical, comprehensive and transparent by including all the major charts available at the time, averaging them, and weighting them to achieve a goal of a 'chart of charts' to at least equal if not surpass the chart compiled by the BBC.

                                                So stick with me and the last of these years, you may not all remember these years and their hits, but they too are part of our cultural, musical and chart heritage, all too easily forgotten as the decades slip by, but these early hits are the ancestors of the charting families of today and contributed to and influenced every musical trend along the way.

                                                Enjoy.

                                                Brian
                                                The Record Mirror Chart Re-Calculated, Re-Worked, Extended

                                                The Way It Was Meant To Be

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                                                • NEW 13 Only You - The Hilltoppers

                                                  Is that the same song that the Flying Pickets did in 1983?

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