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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Just in from work. But wait no more !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 10th December 1966 for your interest.
    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 10th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Green Green Grass Of Home - Tom Jones 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    5 2 What Would I Be - Val Doonican 2 2 2 2 3 18330
    2 3 Good Vibarations - The Beach Boys 3 3 3 3 2 17865
    6 4 My Mind's Eye - The Small Faces 4 4 4 4 4 17145
    3 5 Gimme Some Loving - The Spencer Davis Group 5 6 6 5 5 16060
    8 6 Just One Smile - Gene Pitney 6 7 5 6 8 15755
    14 7 Morningtown Ride - The Seekers 7 5 7 9 6 15525
    15 8 Dead End Street - The Kinks 8 8 8 10 11 14150
    4 9 Semi-Detached Suburban Mr James - Manfred Mann 9 12 11 7 7 13240
    7 10 Holy Cow - Lee Dorsey 11= 11 9 12 10 13185
    11 11 Friday On My Mind - The Easybeats 11= 10 10 13 9 13120
    13 12 What Becomes Of The Brokenhearted - Jimmy Ruffin 10 9 12 8 12 13065
    22 13 You Keep Me Hangin' On - The Supremes 13 12 14 11 15 11410
    9 14 Reach Out I'll Be There - The Four Tops 14 14 13 14 13 11130
    12 15 Distant Drums - Jim Reeves 15 15 15 16 14 10145
    10 16 High Time - Paul Jones 16 19 16 15 16 9025
    NEW 17 If Every Day Was Like Christmas - Elvis Presley 17 20 18 20 20 7485
    29 18 There Won't Be Many Coming Home - Roy Orbison 20 16 21 21 26 6925
    17 19 Stop Stop Stop - The Hollies 18= 26 17 19 19 6720
    16 20 If I Were A Carpenter - Bobby Darin 18= 28 19 17 17 6190
    NEW 21 Walk With Faith In Your Heart - The Bachelors 23= 18 24 24 30 5135
    NEW 22 Sunshine Superman - Donovan 23= 17 26 22 4950
    19 23 A Love Like Yours - Ike and Tina Turner 21 24 25 23 18 4805
    23 24 White Cliffs Of Dover - The Righteous Brothers 25 27 20 21 4400
    28 25 Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa (Sad Song) - Otis Redding 22 21 30 18 23 4230
    27 26 Somewhere My Love - The Mike Sammes Singers 26 22 22 3015
    18 27 Help Me Girl - Eric Burdon and The Animals 30 23 27 24 2995
    NEW 28 Save Me - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 29 22 28 2100
    21 29 I Can't Control Myself - The Troggs 27 28 25 25 1860
    20 30 A Fool Am I - Cilla Black 28 27 26 27 1840
    Think Sometimes About Me - Sandie Shaw 25 29 1700
    I'm Ready For Love - Martha and The Vandellas 23 1600
    It's Love - Ken Dodd 29 400
    Guantanamera - The Sandpipers 28 255
    East West - Herman's Hermits 30 200
    Dandy - The Rockin' Vickers 29 200
    Winchester Cathedral - The New Vaudeville Band 29 170
    Heart - Rita Pavone 30 100
    Last edited by MrTibbs; Thu September 24, 2020, 22:56.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Apologies Bob. It should be October 29th. I made the change earlier but for some reason it didn't save. I have corrected this now. Thanks for getting back to me on this.

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  • BobPatience
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    Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
    Guys, as it has been proved (thanks to Splodj's discovery of the Pick Of The Pops radio show from the time) that the BBC manuscript for 26th October was an error in placing both The Troggs and Jim Reeves at joint #2 I have gone back to that BBC chart of 26th October on here and amended the BBC chart accordingly, placing The Troggs at #2 and Jim Reeves at #3, to ensure that an accurate record of all charts is maintained here.
    I am a bit confused. I see neither a chart dated October 26th (though I presume that is the BBC date for the w/e 29th chart) nor a broken tie of the Reeves and Troggs records.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 3rd December 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 3rd 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    3 1 Green Green Grass Of Home - Tom Jones 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    1 2 Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    2 3 Gimme Some Loving - The Spencer Davis Group 3 3 3 3 3 17780
    4 4 Semi-Detached Suburban Mr James - Manfred Mann 4= 5 5 4 5 16610
    7 5 What Would I Be - Val Doonican 4= 4 6 5 4 16545
    10 6 My Mind's Eye - The Small Faces 7 6 4 9 8 15905
    6 7 Holy Cow - Lee Dorsey 6 7 7 6 6 15425
    13 8 Just One Smile - Gene Pitney 8 8 8 7 9 14620
    5 9 Reach Out I'll Be There - The Four Tops 9 9 9 8 7 14240
    8 10 High Time - Paul Jones 10 12 10 12 10 12735
    17 11 Friday On My Mind - The Easybeats 11 15 11 11 11 11900
    12 12 Distant Drums - Jim Reeves 13 13 13 13 12 11515
    18 13 What Becomes Of The Brokenhearted - Jimmy Ruffin 12 10 17 10 14 11245
    27 14 Morningtown Ride - The Seekers 15 11 12 21 18 10855
    28 15 Dead End Street - The Kinks 14 14 14 16 16 10425
    11 16 If I Were A Carpenter - Bobby Darin 16 18 15 14 15 9660
    9 17 Stop Stop Stop - The Hollies 17 17 16 19 13 9280
    16 18 Help Me Girl - Eric Burdon and The Animals 19 21 18 17 20 7585
    20 19 A Love Like Yours - Ike and Tina Turner 18 19 22 15 17 7440
    14 20 A Fool Am I - Cilla Black 20 22 19 20 21 6750
    15 21 I Can't Control Myself - The Troggs 21 20 20 24 19 6670
    NEW 22 You Keep Me Hangin' On - The Supremes 22 16 23 18 29 6470
    25 23 White Cliffs Of Dover - The Righteous Brothers 23 29 21 22 25 4310
    21 24 Guantanamera - The Sandpipers 24 26 25 23 24 3895
    19 25 No Milk Today - Herman's Hermits 25 23 27 26 23 3780
    22 26 Winchester Cathedral - The New Vaudeville Band 26 27 24 27 26 3375
    24 27 Somewhere My Love - The Mike Sammes Singers 27 26 25 22 2615
    NEW 28 Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa (Sad Song) - Otis Redding 28 24 29 28 28 2455
    NEW 29 There Won't Be Many Coming Home - Roy Orbison 29 25 30 1300
    23 30 Time Drags By - Cliff Richard 30 28 27 1090
    Think Sometimes About Me - Sandie Shaw 28 30 29 1050
    Under New Management - The Barron Knights 30 200
    Beauty Is Only Skin Deep - The Temptations 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    Guys, as it has been proved (thanks to Splodj's discovery of the Pick Of The Pops radio show from the time) that the BBC manuscript for 26th October was an error in placing both The Troggs and Jim Reeves at joint #2 I have gone back to that BBC chart of 26th October on here and amended the BBC chart accordingly, placing The Troggs at #2 and Jim Reeves at #3, to ensure that an accurate record of all charts is maintained here.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 26th November 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending November 26th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    3 2 Gimme Some Loving - The Spencer Davis Group 2 3 2 2 2 18215
    7 3 Green Green Grass Of Home - Tom Jones 3 2 3 4 3 17880
    2 4 Semi-Detached Suburban Mr James - Manfred Mann 4 4 4 3 5 17160
    4 5 Reach Out I'll Be There - The Four Tops 5 5 5 5 4 16595
    8 6 Holy Cow - Lee Dorsey 6 7 6 6 7 15590
    12 7 What Would I Be - Val Doonican 7 6 7 7 9 15270
    6 8 High Time - Paul Jones 8 8 8 8 6 14775
    5 9 Stop Stop Stop - The Hollies 9 10 9 10 8 13755
    22 10 My Mind's Eye - The Small Faces 11 9 10 13 15 12810
    13 11 If I Were A Carpenter - Bobby Darin 10 13 11 11 10 12385
    10 12 Distant Drums - Jim Reeves 12 11 12 12 12 12265
    19 13 Just One Smile - Gene Pitney 13 12 14 9 13 11780
    9 14 A Fool Am I - Cilla Black 15 15 13 14 20 10335
    11 15 I Can't Control Myself - The Troggs 14 16 16 18 11 9750
    18 16 Help Me Girl - Eric Burdon and The Animals 16 21 15 15 14 9045
    25 17 Friday On My Mind - The Easybeats 17 17 17 20 17 8590
    26 18 What Becomes Of The Brokenhearted - Jimmy Ruffin 18 14 23 16 21 7750
    14 19 No Milk Today - Herman's Hermits 20 22 18 19 18 7355
    20 20 A Love Like Yours - Ike and Tina Turner 19 20 22 17 16 7125
    17 21 Guantanamera - The Sandpipers 21 18 21 21 19 7120
    15 22 Winchester Cathedral - The New Vaudeville Band 22 19 20 25 22 6515
    16 23 Time Drags By - Cliff Richard 23 24 19 23 23 5880
    28 24 Somewhere My Love - The Mike Sammes Singers 24 23 25 24 25 4310
    29 25 White Cliffs Of Dover - The Righteous Brothers 25 26 24 22 28 3905
    21 26 I've Got You Under My Skin - The Four Seasons 26 28 27 27 26 2425
    NEW 27 Morningtown Ride - The Seekers 28 25 28 29 2150
    NEW 28 Dead End Street - The Kinks 29 26 29 1500
    27 29 All That I Am - Elvis Presley 26 30 1335
    24 30 Bend It - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 27 26 24 1095
    Beauty Is Only Skin Deep - The Temptations 30 28 27 640
    It's Love - Ken Dodd 29 400
    Ride On Baby - Chris Farlowe 30 250
    Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa (Sad Song) - Otis Redding 30 200
    All I See Is You - Dusty Springfield 29 170
    Marble Breaks Iron Bends - Peter Fenton 30 100

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Just in from work hence why running late posting.

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 19th November 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending November 19th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    2 1 Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    4 2 Semi-Detached Suburban Mr James - Manfred Mann 2 3 2 3 2 18115
    5 3 Gimme Some Loving - The Spencer Davis Group 3 2 3 2 4 17995
    1 4 Reach Out I'll Be There - The Four Tops 4 4 4 4 3 17230
    3 5 Stop Stop Stop - The Hollies 6 5 5 6 7 16240
    6 6 High Time - Paul Jones 5 6 6 5 5 16060
    25 7 Green Green Grass Of Home - Tom Jones 8 7 8 13 10 14135
    15 8 Holy Cow - Lee Dorsey 7 10 11 8 6 13625
    13 9 A Fool Am I - Cilla Black 11 12 7 10 13 13430
    8 10 Distant Drums - Jim Reeves 10 8 12 9 11 13250
    7 11 I Can't Control Myself - The Troggs 9 11 13 7 8 12855
    23 12 What Would I Be - Val Doonican 13 9 9 15 16 12775
    10 13 If I Were A Carpenter - Bobby Darin 12 13 10 11 9 12720
    9 14 No Milk Today - Herman's Hermits 14 15 15 14 12 10515
    12 15 Winchester Cathedral - The New Vaudeville Band 15 14 16 12 14 10495
    11 16 Time Drags By - Cliff Richard 16 16 14 19 18 9555
    14 17 Guantanamera - The Sandpipers 17 18 17 20 15 8560
    18 18 Help Me Girl - Eric Burdon and The Animals 18 19 18 17 17 8240
    NEW 19 Just One Smile - Gene Pitney 19 17 19 16 28 7555
    21 20 A Love Like Yours - Ike and Tina Turner 20 21 23 18 21 6150
    17 21 I've Got You Under My Skin - The Four Seasons 21 27 21 21 22 5065
    NEW 22 My Mind's Eye - The Small Faces 23 20 25 22 29 4770
    19 23 Beauty Is Only Skin Deep - The Temptations 24 23 24 23 25 4660
    16 24 Bend It - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 22 20 24 19 4470
    NEW 25 Friday On My Mind - The Easybeats 25 29 22 26 20 4085
    NEW 26 What Becomes Of The Brokenhearted - Jimmy Ruffin 26 22 25 24 2995
    20 27 All That I Am - Elvis Presley 28 26 26 30 27 2690
    29 28 Somewhere My Love - The Mike Sammes Singers 27 28 27 28 26 2325
    NEW 29 White Cliffs Of Dover - The Righteous Brothers 29 24 29 27 2300
    30 30 Ride On Baby - Chris Farlowe 25 30 29 1650
    All I See Is You - Dusty Springfield 30 28 23 1430
    Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa-Fa (Sad Song) - Otis Redding 30 200
    Ready Steady Who (EP[) - The Who 30 200
    Lady Godiva - Peter and Gordon 30 85

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  • Splodj
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    Originally posted by ACA View Post
    Just a little info looking forward. On August 27th 1967 I have expanded my notes to a Top 30 and the program was extended by half an hour. (4 to 5,30pm) By 1st October 1967 my notes say that it's now a 2-hour program. (4 to 6pm).
    The 90 minute POTP on 27-Aug-67 was a strange inbetweeny show. It was the first to feature a Top 30, and the last to play the complete Top 10. (A complete Top 20 was played when the show went to 2 hours.)

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  • Splodj
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    Which indicates that he was speaking from memory, and not reading from a script as some claim.

    I remember listening to the 6-Nov-66 POTP, because in the competition at the end he invited listeners to write in saying what they thought would be at number one next week. The mid-week NME chart in the Sunday newspapers that day had the Beach Boys at number one, but then when the end of week NME chart came out the Four Tops had reverted back to the top!

    This was the end of the run I mentioned before where the NME matched RR for number ones. Not only did they lag MM in making the Beach Boys number one, but they had lagged MM and Disc making the Small Faces and Four Tops number one.

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  • RokinRobinOfLocksley
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    Excellent detective work, Splodj !! I went back and checked all 5 of my different BBC files, and they all showed both "Distant Drums" and "I Can't Control Myself" at #2, however none of them had the " = " sign beside them, indicating a tie. So it would appear that all the Dave/Trevor BBC files have typos here, and "Distant Drums" was indeed #3 this week 29 Oct 1966 per the POTP audio file.

    Occasionally the Dave/Trevor BBC files make note of what records were actually played for a given week when there were discrepancies and/or later corrections. Maybe they hadn't heard this particular audio tape per their last BBC revision.

    Also, although Fluff says NME, Melody Maker, and RR were used this week (between records #10 and #9), implying Disc was omitted, the BBC numbers don't work out that way. Disc must have been included as well, otherwise several other chart positions would have been thrown off and they are not.

    Groovy fab gear keen !!

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  • MrTibbs
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    Factoring in the Store Returns is making a world of difference to the original BBC charts. It keeps their principle of averaging intact yet breaks ties, smoothes out anomalies, and corrects errors made in the original calculations giving us a much more robust chart.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Interesting Splodj. The BBC chart file does mention that Alan Freeman didn't always refer to ties on occasion when presenting the shows, then again it could be an error on the print copy. That is the most likely reason given the obvious point difference between the records which meant they couldn't have tied.

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  • ACA
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    Yeah Splodj, I heard that, thanks for the finding, and what's also interesting is that the 12th November BBC chart is identical to my notes from the 13th, thus maybe here's the turning point! Only comment is that Spencer Davis lost out again, this time to Paul Jones, and I haven't been aware that there was another joint position!
    So maybe the highest position from the week before kept the lead when decided which track to play first.

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  • Splodj
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    ... and if you listen carefully to Alan Freeman's link between numbers 10 (Who) and 9 (Stones) you can hear him mention the constituent charts that make up the BBC one.

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  • Splodj
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    Brian,

    On Mixcloud there is a poor quality recording of POTP from 30-Oct-66. It seems that the BBC Top 3 agrees with yours - in other words, they do not have a tie for number 2.

    https://www.mixcloud.com/peteseaton/...reeman-301066/

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Onwards and Upwards !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 12th November 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending November 12th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Reach Out I'll Be There - The Four Tops 1 1 2 1 1 18800
    11 2 Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys 2 2 1 2 5 18410
    2 3 Stop Stop Stop - The Hollies 3 4 3 3 2 17665
    10 4 Semi-Detached Suburban Mr James - Manfred Mann 4 3 4 4 3 17430
    17 5 Gimme Some Loving - The Spencer Davis Group 5= 4 5 5 8 16455
    6 6 High Time - Paul Jones 5= 6 6 6 4 16045
    3 7 I Can't Control Myself - The Troggs 7 8 10 7 6 14375
    4 8 Distant Drums - Jim Reeves 8 7 11 8 7 14140
    5 9 No Milk Today - Herman's Hermits 9 10 7 11 9 14070
    12 10 If I Were A Carpenter - Bobby Darin 12 12 8 13 13 12880
    9 11 Time Drags By - Cliff Richard 11 13 9 12 11 12700
    7 12 Winchester Cathedral - The New Vaudeville Band 10 9 14 9 10 12635
    13 13 A Fool Am I - Cilla Black 13 11 12 10 14 12295
    8 14 Guantanamera - The Sandpipers 14 14 13 14 12 11215
    22 15 Holy Cow - Lee Dorsey 15 15 15 16 16 9975
    14 16 Bend It - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 16 16 16 17 15 9510
    15 17 I've Got You Under My Skin - The Four Seasons 17 21 17 15 17 8290
    25 18 Help Me Girl - Eric Burdon and The Animals 18 19 18 19 20 7785
    20 19 Beauty Is Only Skin Deep - The Temptations 19 25 21 18 18 6105
    24 20 All That I Am - Elvis Presley 21 22 20 23 24 5945
    29 21 A Love Like Yours - Ike and Tina Turner 22 18 23 24 26 5725
    16 22 All I See Is You - Dusty Springfield 20 26 19 22 23 5580
    NEW 23 What Would I Be - Val Doonican 25 17 25 4300
    18 24 I'm A Boy - The Who 23 29 22 27 19 4070
    NEW 25 Green Green Grass Of Home - Tom Jones 26 20 27 29 3400
    19 26 Have You Seen Your Mother Baby, Standing In The Shadows - The Rolling Stones 24 28 21 22 2515
    28 27 Painter Man - The Creation 27 27 29 20 2400
    26 28 Wrapping Paper - Cream 28 24 25 2350
    RE 29 Somewhere My Love - The Mike Sammes Singers 29 23 30 29 1870
    NEW 30 Ride On Baby - Chris Farlowe 24 30 1650
    Friday On My Mind - The Easybeats 26 1250
    Just One Smile - Gene Pitney 28 26 1100
    Lady Godiva - Peter and Gordon 30 21 850
    You Can't Hurry Love - The Supremes 28 25 810
    Too Soon To Know - Roy Orbison 30 27 540
    I Love My Dog - Cat Stevens 28 255
    Walk With Me - The Seekers 30 85

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  • ACA
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    I will certainly not make this a big issue, only say that the NME listings in your November 5th list correspond with mine again. Only difference is that I have placed the Spencer Davis Group at 15 and Bobby Darin at 14, probably the order of playing the tracks.
    I rarely listened to Luxy in those days as the reception was awful at nights, and as you wrote, Brian, the Luxy list was broadcast at 11pm - that was after midnight European time, and normally I was fast asleep.
    The Danish Top 20 was aired from 4-5pm on sundays, and I could switch to the BBC at 5pm (that would be 4pm GMT). But on March 19th 1967 I wrote a disclaimer groumbling about that the UK switched to summertime, and forcing me to switch between the two chart programmes in order to follow both!

    I never wrote down the pirates lists although I listened a lot to Radio Caroline( which was clearly received in my part of the country), because I realized the list was too far from the 'official' one. (read BBC).
    I will continue to follow your efforts and lists, Brian, and if i notice any significant changes in the lists I have, i'll let you know of course.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Graham I do believe on this occasion Splodj is correct about which chart was broadcast on POTP. When the music papers compiled their chart at the beginning of each week (albeit it was last week's sales), the BBC also did their average chart from this in time for TOTP that week, Wednesday and later Thursday. On the Sunday immediately following this POTP broadcast the chart as the same one which had been on TOTP.

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  • Splodj
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    I've always assumed that the BBC did pay the contributors for their charts. They were still using copyright material, which they were given even during a printers strike. The music papers were keen to recover the considerable expense of compilation, so I don't see why the BBC would have received them for free just because they combined them.

    ​​​Anyway, papers in the BBC archive will show whether they did or not.

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  • Graham76man
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    As I was only six at the time so I don't know what Alan would have said the NME, but it was a popular paper and if you look at the positions of the NME and BBC many are the same, so he could have said something to those effects.
    Some of the Pirate Stations used the NME and Melody Maker charts, but they often switch positions to avoid a copyright claim. Had the BBC used the NME charts there would have been a copyright issue. And the BBC never did that on purpose!
    The introduction of Radio One in 1967 would have seen the need to extend Pick of The Pops, so they did.

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  • Graham76man
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    NO you would not. You would have heard the previous week week ending 15 October. This is why on the Real Chart I always used the day after the sales count had finished. People think the week ending charts are the sales from (in the case of the 22 October one) 17 October (no sales Sunday of course) to 22 October. When in fact they are the sales from 10 to 15 October.

  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 5th November 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending November 5th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Reach Out I'll Be There - The Four Tops 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    4 2 Stop Stop Stop - The Hollies 2 2 2 3 2 18315
    2 3 I Can't Control Myself - The Troggs 3 3 3 2 3 17880
    3 4 Distant Drums - Jim Reeves 4 4 6 5 4 16545
    8 5 No Milk Today - Herman's Hermits 7 9 4 8 7 15490
    15 6 High Time - Paul Jones 6 8 7 6 6 15225
    5 7 Winchester Cathedral - The New Vaudeville Band 5 5 11 4 5 15110
    6 8 Guantanamera - The Sandpipers 8 9 8 7 8 14505
    11 9 Time Drags By - Cliff Richard 9 11 5 9 10 14485
    26 10 Semi-Detached Suburban Mr James - Manfred Mann 10 7 10 11 11 13750
    NEW 11 Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys 11= 6 13 14 15 12560
    16 12 If I Were A Carpenter - Bobby Darin 11= 14 9 12 13 12330
    17 13 A Fool Am I - Cilla Black 13 13 12 10 14 11895
    7 14 Bend It - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 14 12 14 15 9 11520
    12 15 I've Got You Under My Skin - The Four Seasons 15 16 15 13 12 10415
    13 16 All I See Is You - Dusty Springfield 16 18 16 18 17 8840
    NEW 17 Gimme Some Loving - The Spencer Davis Group 18 14 17 17 26 8725
    10 18 I'm A Boy - The Who 17 17 20 19 16 8025
    9 19 Have You Seen Your Mother Baby, Standing In The Shadows - The Rolling Stones 19 19 19 21 19 7420
    19 20 Beauty Is Only Skin Deep - The Temptations 20 23 18 20 22 6715
    14 21 You Can't Hurry Love - The Supremes 21 20 22 25 20 5985
    NEW 22 Holy Cow - Lee Dorsey 22 25 21 22 25 5110
    22 23 Lady Godiva - Peter and Gordon 25 21 25 28 23 4480
    23 24 All That I Am - Elvis Presley 23= 28 23 27 18 4105
    NEW 25 Help Me Girl - Eric Burdon and The Animals 23= 27 26 16 27 3890
    29 26 Wrapping Paper - Cream 28 25 24 24 3650
    20 27 Too Soon To Know - Roy Orbison 26 29 27 23 21 3050
    NEW 28 Painter Man - The Creation 27 22 26 2300
    NEW 29 A Love Like Yours - Ike and Tina Turner 29 24 30 1650
    30 30 I Love My Dog - Cat Stevens 30 29 28 955
    Sunny - Georgie Fame 28 30 835
    Walk With Me - The Seekers 30 24 595
    What Would I Be - Val Doonican 30 200
    I Don't Care - Los Bravos 29 200
    Somewhere My Love - The Mike Sammes Singers 29 170
    Two At A Time - Neil Christian 30 100

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  • MrTibbs
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    Hi again Anders. Yip, like I said before and Splodj just confirmed also, Pick Of The Pops did indeed use the BBC's own chart right up to February 1969.
    I too can remember like Splodj that Alan normally commented that the BBC compiled their chart from the weekly music newspaper charts NME etc etc. On a Sunday night at 11pm Radio Luxembourg played the Top 20 and in 1966 this would have been the NME chart.
    I hope this helps.

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  • Splodj
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    Pick Of The Pops definitely used the BBC chart.

    Every now and then Alan Freeman would say something like: "Compiled from the charts provided by the New Musical Express, Melody Maker, Disc and Record Retailer. Not 'alf!"

    Is it possible that you heard only part of this message?

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  • ACA
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    Thanks a lot guys for trying to clarify what happened some 55 (!) years ago! I think you, Brian, and Splodj came up with the clue. Of course it was *Pick of the Pops' and Alan Freeman I listened to then! I just couldn't remember the name of the program.
    As for Radio Luxembourg the programming was in German until, if I remember well, about 7pm (GMT), when the English programming took over.
    But Alan Freeman must have used the NME charts for his show, as these correspond with my notes at least for 22nd and 29th October. And living in a rural area on the West Coast of Denmark there was no chance that I came near a copy of the NME then.
    In fact I started a subscripton in late 1968, when I felt my english was good enough to get something out of the articles.

    I'm still questioning why Alan Freeman used the NME charts, when BBC TV (Top of the Pops) worked out their own charts.

    Just a little info looking forward. On August 27th 1967 I have expanded my notes to a Top 30 and the program was extended by half an hour. (4 to 5,30pm) By 1st October 1967
    my notes say that it's now a 2-hour program. (4 to 6pm).

    Anders
    Last edited by ACA; Mon September 21, 2020, 10:17. Reason: correction of meaning

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