The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

It missed out first time around in 1964 but Martha Reeves and The Vandellas didn't miss on re-issue in 1969. Right On !

There are are 10 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 25th 1969.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 25th 1969								NME	MM	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC		TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Marmalade					1	2	1	1	15850
2	2	Albatross - Fleetwood Mac					2	1	2	2	15715
6	3	For Once In My Life - Stevie Wonder					3	3	3	3	14980
5	4	Something's Happening - Herman's Hermits					4=	4	4	7	14190
3	5	Lily The Pink - The Scaffold					4=	6	5	4	13795
4	6	Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations					6	5	6	6	13575
9	7	Private Number - William Bell and Judy Clay					7	7	7	8	12755
19	8	Blackberry Way - The Move					8	8	10	5	12060
7	9	Sabre Dance - Love Sculpture					9=	10	8	11	11650
8	10	I'm The Urban Spaceman - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band					9=	11	9	9	11370
12	11	Fox On The Run - Manfred Mann					11	9	11	10	11185
11	12	Son Of A Preacher Man - Dusty Springfield					12	13	12	13	9880
16	13	Stop Her On Sight (SOS) - Edwin Starr					13	14	15	12	9015
23	14	You Got Soul - Johnny Nash					14=	12	16	15	8910
10	15	Ain't Got No..I Got Life - Nina Simone					14=	15	14	14	8895
14	16	Love Child - Diana Ross and The Supremes					16	16	13	16	8775
15	17	A Minute Of Your Time - Tom Jones					17	17	18	18	7155
13	18	One Two Three O'Leary - Des O'Connor					18	22	17	17	6490
24	19	Please Don't Go - Donald Peers					19	21	19	23	5680
21	20	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Bedrocks					22=	17	24		4550
30	21	Hey Jude - Wilson Pickett					24=	24	21	29	4070
NEW	22	Dancing In The Street - Martha Reeves and The Vandellas					20	20	27	21	4050
17	23	I'm A Tiger - Lulu					21	30	20	20	3885
29	24	I Guess I'll Always Love You - The Isley Brothers					24=	19	28	27	3490
20	25	The Good The Bad And The Ugly - Hugo Montenegro					22=		22	19	3270
26	26	Quick Joey Small - The Kasenetz-Katz Singing Orchestral Circus					26	25	26	24	3045
NEW	27	To Love Somebody - Nina Simone					27	28	25	25	2610
18	28	Race With The Devil - The Gun					29		23	26	2425
NEW	29	Going Up Country - Canned Heat					28	27	30	22	1815
NEW	30	Soul Limbo - Booker T. and The MG's					30	23			1600
		On Mother Kelly's Doorstep - Danny La Rue						26			1000
		Mrs Robinson (EP) - Simon and Garfunkel							29	30	585
		Love Story - Jethro Tull						29			400
		May I Have The Next Dream With You - Malcolm Roberts								28	255
		I'll Pick A Rose For My Rose - Marv Johnson						30			200

[MrTibbs]

Yeah Gambo that would actually explain it, the timing of the discontinuation of the EP chart. Imagine if that chart had continued for just a few months more then Magical Mystery Tour wouldn't have qualified for the singles chart.

[Gambo]

I always assumed that a few EPs began registering in the main RR Top 50 singles charts from December 1967 because they took the decision to discontinue the separate EP chart (the final edition was W/E 16 December). Rather than disallow EPs to feature at all, they conceded to permit them into the singles listing if their sales returns racked up enough points to make the cut, albeit that very few were selling sufficiently by then to outsell the average typical 45s. Only a major force such as The Beatles would still have the commercial might across all formats to achieve a notable chart placing with an EP, which of course they did with 'Magical Mystery Tour'.

[MrTibbs]

No Brian, back at the end of 1967 The Beatles made the RR singles chart peaking at #2 with the Magical Mystery Tour Double EP. Somewhere along the way, obviously late in the decade they made a policy change. Odd, to do it then when EP's were in the twilight of their existence.

[brian05]

Mrs Robinson (EP) - Simon and Garfunkel

Is this the first EP to make the RR singles chart?

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Just 3 more charts after this one and we're away back to 1960. A different beast entirely !

There are are 11 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 18th 1969.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 18th 1969								NME	MM	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC		TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Marmalade					1	1	1	1	16050
5	2	Albatross - Fleetwood Mac					2	2	2	2	15515
2	3	Lily The Pink - The Scaffold					3	3	3	4	14895
3	4	Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations					4	4	4	3	14530
8	5	Something's Happening - Herman's Hermits					5	5	6	6	13575
12	6	For Once In My Life - Stevie Wonder					6	6	7	5	13210
6	7	Sabre Dance - Love Sculpture					7	8	5	8	13055
4	8	I'm The Urban Spaceman - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band					8	7	8	7	12590
11	9	Private Number - William Bell and Judy Clay					9	9	9	10	11685
7	10	Ain't Got No..I Got Life - Nina Simone					10	12	10	9	10920
10	11	Son Of A Preacher Man - Dusty Springfield					11	10	11	11	10900
21	12	Fox On The Run - Manfred Mann					12	13	13	12	9715
9	13	One Two Three O'Leary - Des O'Connor					13	14	12	14	9595
17	14	Love Child - Diana Ross and The Supremes					14	11	14	17	9440
15	15	A Minute Of Your Time - Tom Jones					16	18	15	20	7535
20	16	Stop Her On Sight (SOS) - Edwin Starr					15	15	19	16	7475
14	17	I'm A Tiger - Lulu					17	19	17	18	7005
13	18	Race With The Devil - The Gun					18=	20	16	19	6970
NEW	19	Blackberry Way - The Move					18=	20	22	13	5980
16	20	The Good The Bad And The Ugly - Hugo Montenegro					20	25	18	15	5810
19	21	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Bedrocks					23	17	21	26	5725
18	22	May I Have The Next Dream With You - Malcolm Roberts					21	22	20	21	5400
27	23	You Got Soul - Johnny Nash					22	16	25	23	5180
26	24	Please Don't Go - Donald Peers					24	23	23	25	4110
24	25	Don't Forget To Catch Me - Cliff Richard					25	24	24		3150
30	26	Quick Joey Small - The Kasenetz-Katz Singing Orchestral Circus					26=	27	26	28	2305
22	27	Harper Valley P.T.A. - Jeannie C. Riley					26=		28	22	1515
23	28	Breaking Down The Walls Of Heartache - The Bandwagon							27		1000
NEW	29	I Guess I'll Always Love You - The Isley Brothers					29=	26			1000
NEW	30	Hey Jude - Wilson Pickett						29	29		900
		On Mother Kelly's Doorstep - Danny La Rue						28			600
		Going Up The Country - Canned Heat					28			24	595
		This Old Heart Of Mine - The Isley Brothers					29=		30	27	590
		Soul Limbo - Booker T. and the MG's						29		30	485
		Mrs Robinson (EP) - Simon and Garfunkel								29	170

[Graham76man]

True, and both Marty Wilde and Georgie Fame also got the song into the breakers, the former at the same time as Glen. So sales splitting probably explains the failure of either version to chart properly.

I don't think the splitting is a good argument. In 1970 Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head gets split like mad, around five versions, but one of them does really well and three make the top 50.
I would put it down to some bad charts. Or possibly some missing stores that would favour Glen. Record stores don't have the same people buying from them. Probably true with many stores and shops. You could go into one shop and it would sell Country music and another shop on the other side of the road, wouldn't have any Country records.

Often a good indication of if the charts were playing up is the ownership on 45 Cat. Since they also included a value on rare records it eliminates such records as being "chart". I did a complete survey of all the top 50 records for a year showing the amount of owns of each hit. From this you could work out how much it would take to enter the top 50. And I was able to work out where a record could get to with the points it had. So to make the top 50 you would need at least 12 to 13 owns, by 20 you are up to 30 and to get to the top 75 and over. Though having said that some really big sellers had less than that.
So on that would Glen miss out? No is the answer with 38 owns. Would put him no higher than 16. Marty Wilde, would though he has only 11.
Fame's version was released later towards the end of May. At 18 owns it should have entered the 50, but no higher than 42.
There's also a special issue dated to 1968 only featuring Fame and Simon and Garfunkel. That has 36 owns, but probably never qualified as a chart record.
It's remarkable too that many records advertised in the music press at the time and given sparkling reviews on the new singles pages have ownerships of 0 to 3 on 45 Cat.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

So here we go .. into 1969

There are are just 7 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 11th 1969.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 11th 1969								NME	MM	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC		TOP	30	Scored
3	1	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Marmalade					1	1	1	1	16050
1	2	Lily The Pink - The Scaffold					2	2	2	3	15430
2	3	Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations					3	3	3	2	15065
6	4	I'm The Urban Spaceman - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band					4	4	4	5	14360
8	5	Albatross - Fleetwood Mac					5	5	5	4	13995
7	6	Sabre Dance - Love Sculpture					6	6	6	6	13375
5	7	Ain't Got No..I Got Life - Nina Simone					7	9	7	7	12440
17	8	Something's Happening - Herman's Hermits					8	7	9	8	12255
4	9	One Two Three O'Leary - Des O'Connor					9	8	8	13	11880
14	10	Son Of A Preacher Man - Dusty Springfield					10	12	10	9	10920
15	11	Private Number - William Bell and Judy Clay					11	10	11	12	10815
24	12	For Once In My Life - Stevie Wonder					12	11	13	10	10285
9	13	Race With The Devil - The Gun					13	12	12	14	9995
12	14	I'm A Tiger - Lulu					14	16	14	11	8950
13	15	A Minute Of Your Time - Tom Jones					16=	15	16	17	8140
11	16	The Good The Bad And The Ugly - Hugo Montenegro					16=	18	14	16	8125
16	17	Love Child - Diana Ross and The Supremes					15	14	18	15	8010
10	18	May I Have The Next Dream With You - Malcolm Roberts					18	17	17	18	7405
19	19	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Bedrocks					19=	21	19	24	5595
25	20	Stop Her On Sight (SOS) - Edwin Starr					19=	20	22	22	5215
NEW	21	Fox On The Run - Manfred Mann					21	19	25	23	4580
20	22	Harper Valley P.T.A. - Jeannie C. Riley					22	23	24	21	4200
18	23	Breaking Down The Walls Of Heartache - The Bandwagon					23	29	20	19	4170
27	24	Don't Forget To Catch Me - Cliff Richard					24	25	21	26	4125
23	25	This Old Heart Of Mine - The Isley Brothers					25		23	20	2935
NEW	26	Please Don't Go - Donald Peers					26	23	28	25	2860
NEW	27	You Got Soul - Johnny Nash					28	22			1800
21	28	If I Knew Then What I Know Now - Val Doonican					27	27	29	27	1640
28	29	Atlantis - Donovan					29	28	27		1600
29	30	Quick Joey Small - Kasenetz-Katz Singing Orchestral Circus					30=		26		1250
		On Mother Kelly's Doorstep - Danny La Rue					30=	26			1000
		Elenore - The Turtles					30=		29	28	755
		Blackberry Way - The Move						30		29	370
		Love Story - Jethro Tull						30			200
		Going Up Country - Canned Heat								30	85

[MrTibbs]

Strangely though Robbie, Marmalade will fall back after one week on top and Lily The Pink will return to #1 on RR, while Marmalade will be #1 on NME and MM that week. RR defo got it wrong I think.

[Robbie]

^
Record Retailer seem to be very much ahead of the curve for the chart dated 04/01/69. A quicker number 1, higher placed climbers and lower placed fallers.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

So here we go .. into 1969

There are a massive 17 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 4th 1969.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 4th 1969								NME	MM	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC		TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Lily The Pink - The Scaffold					1	1	1	2	15965
3	2	Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations					2	2	2	3	15430
8	3	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Marmalade					3	3	5	1	14650
2	4	One Two Three O'Leary - Des O'Connor					4	4	3	8	14355
4	5	Ain't Got No..I Got Life - Nina Simone					5=	5	4	7	13990
5	6	I'm The Urban Spaceman - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band					5=	6	5	5	13710
6	7	Sabre Dance - Love Sculpture					7=	7	7	6	12925
11	8	Albatross - Fleetwood Mac					7=	8	8	4	12645
10	9	Race With The Devil - The Gun					9	10	9	11	11400
9	10	May I Have The Next Dream With You - Malcolm Roberts					10	9	10	16	10925
7	11	The Good The Bad And The Ugly - Hugo Montenegro					11	10	11	15	10560
12	12	I'm A Tiger - Lulu					12	12	12	13	10080
13	13	A Minute Of Your Time - Tom Jones					14=	13	13	17	9290
17	14	Son Of A Preacher Man - Dusty Springfield					13	17	14	9	8920
15	15	Private Number - William Bell and Judy Clay					14=	14	15	14	8845
16	16	Love Child - Diana Ross and The Supremes					17	15	16	18	8055
26	17	Something's Happening - Herman's Hermits					16	16	18	10	8035
14	18	Breaking Down The Walls Of Heartache - The Bandwagon					18	24	17	19	5920
21	19	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Bedrocks					19	18	23	20	5535
19	20	Harper Valley P.T.A. - Jeannie C. Riley					22	20	20	26	5375
24	21	If I Knew Then What I Know Now - Val Doonican					21	19	22	23	5330
22	22	Elenore - The Turtles					24	22	21	25	4810
20	23	This Old Heart Of Mine - The Isley Brothers					23	26	19	22	4765
NEW	24	For Once In My Life - Stevie Wonder					20	23	28	12	3965
27	25	Stop Her On Sight (SOS) - Edwin Starr					25	21	25		3500
18	26	Eloise - Barry Ryan					29=		24		1750
30	27	Don't Forget To Catch Me - Cliff Richard					26	29	29	21	1750
29	28	Atlantis - Donovan					27	25	30	28	1705
25	29	Quick Joey Small - The Kasenetz-Katz Singing Orchestral Circus					28		26	27	1590
28	30	Those Were The Days - Mary Hopkin							27	29	1170
		I'm In A Different World - The Four Tops						27			800
		On Mother Kelly's Doorstep - Danny La Rue						28			600
		Please Don't go - Donald Peers					29			24	595
		Fox On The Run - Manfred Mann						30			200
		Toy - The Casuals								30	85

[Metalweb]

In a way it was:
.

True, and both Marty Wilde and Georgie Fame also got the song into the breakers, the former at the same time as Glen. So sales splitting probably explains the failure of either version to chart properly.

[MrTibbs]

Something that should have been recorded in 1968: Joe Cocker giving his agonised anxt treatment to 'Yummy Yummy Yummy'!

Joe's facial expressions and hand gestures as he sang had me totally hooked. Magical performer.

[Graham76man]

It's particularly extraordinary that such a classic, much covered song as "By The Time I Get To Phoenix" was never a hit in this country...

In a way it was:

Five weeks on the Breakers list from 27 Jan 1968, peaking in 2nd place

.

[Splodj]

Something that should have been recorded in 1968: Joe Cocker giving his agonised anxt treatment to 'Yummy Yummy Yummy'!

[Metalweb]

It's particularly extraordinary that such a classic, much covered song as "By The Time I Get To Phoenix" was never a hit in this country...

[MrTibbs]

Before I post the first 6 charts from 1969 taking us to the end of this phase of the project indulge me again with my usual list of criminally ignored records from 1968. If we didn't have a top thirty accommodating below par ballads and some just awful records (Sue Nicholls springs to mind) there would have been space on the chart for these gems that missed out.

Angel Pavement - Baby You've Got To Stay
Dusty Springfield - I Will Come To You
The Lemon Pipers - Rice Is Nice
Madeline Bell - I'm Gonna Make You Love Me
The Montanas - You've Got To Be Loved
The 5th Dimension - Stoned Soul Picnic
The Flowerpot Men - In A Moment Of Madness
The Candy Choir - No Grey Skies
Glen Campbell - By The Time I Get To Phoenix
Long John Baldry - When The Sun Comes Shining Through
Nirvana - Rainbow Chaser
The Rascals - People Got To Be Free

Just saying lol.

[Graham76man]

Graham: as one who was employed by the music industry for many decades, I am afraid I can refute your suggestion that all sales figures are kept in record company archives indefinitely. Companies are obliged to keep several years of data for accounting, auditing and tax reasons, but as soon as those 6 years are up, out they go to the recycling centre. Reason: it costs money to store stuff which has no commercial value in warehouses. The same would apply to digital back-ups of similar vintage. Sorry!

Lots of companies and institutions deposit records and documents in national and local archive institutions, costing them nothing. Some things like magazines and books have at least 3 statutory sites which they are required to be send a copy. Hence why places have copies of music magazines. If you are still in contact with any places you worked for, then suggest to them to deposit old records in there local archive office. It will cost them nothing and if there is any sensitive data, they can place an embargo as to when the public will be allowed to see it.
Stuff can often be deposited from law firms after the collapse of say a record store. Indeed many law firms were fundamental in founding some of the archives and libraries. The big record companies also have their own archives. However it's not perfect and some record companies have thrown out master tapes of artists!
There's tons of material out there. You only have to watch something like the Antiques Roadshow to see some ex employee of some firm that has rescued materials that went to the skip and is now worth a fortune. It's just finding where it's been placed! And if you can see it!

[Graham76man]

Mr Tibbs: re your suggestion of a version of the chart without RR, I am personally not keen; not because I am particularly fond of RR, but because one cannot deny its existence throughout the 60s. Far more interesting to include the ‘rogue’ charts like Pop Weekly, Music Now, Cashbox etc, although that water has already passed under the bridge, and I am not suggesting you go back now!

It wasn't Brian's idea it was mine. Based on the fact that as far as the rest of the world is concerned and due to the people who did the first British Hit Singles Book it has become the "official chart" of the 60's despite the fact it was the least accurate and used the smallest of samples. Had the NME increased the chart to a top a top 50, it's unlikely that the BHSB people would have switched from the NME top 30 to the RR. At least not until 1969 when an actual sales based chart was done. Had Melody Maker also not chopped its chart down, it might have replaced the NME and the RR charts in the book. Or if they had found the 31 to 50 part of the charts for 1967, as some people have indeed located some later years of it, then again the larger sample of the Melody Maker might have become "official".

I did suggest to Brian that only the top ten of the chart (without RR) would do as the top ten is the part that really counts. Removing RR will remove it's slow nature and faults. And should give a better picture of the top selling records of the 60's.
In anycase Brian has already done the charts with RR, so we would have both as a comparison.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

This is a first for you guys because just like at the end of 1967 MM and the BBC did not compile a chart for this week so The UAC has been compiled from NME and RR who did compile charts.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 28th 1968.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 28th 1968								NME	MM	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC		TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Lily The Pink - The Scaffold						1		1	8550
3	2	One Two Three O'Leary - Des O'Connor						2		4	8095
4	3	Build Me Up Buttercup - The Foundations						3		2	8065
2	4	Ain't Got No..I Got Life - Nina Simone						4		3	7780
6	5	I'm The Urban Spaceman - The Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band						5		6	7325
8	6	Sabre Dance - Love Sculpture						6		5	7210
5	7	The Good The Bad And The Ugly - Hugo Montenegro						7		8	6755
14	8	Ob-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Marmalade						8		7	6640
7	9	May I Have The Next Dream With You - Malcolm Roberts						9		11	6100
11	10	Race With The Devil - The Gun						10		10	5985
16	11	Albatross - Fleetwood Mac						12		9	5670
9	12	I'm A Tiger - Lulu						11		13	5530
13	13	A Minute Of Your Time - Tom Jones						13		14	5045
10	14	Breaking Down The Walls Of Heartache - The Bandwagon						15		12	4815
19	15	Private Number - William Bell and Judy Clay						14		16	4675
18	16	Love Child - Diana Ross and The Supremes						16		21	3850
20	17	Son Of A Preacher Man - Dusty Springfield						18		20	3535
15	18	Eloise - Barry Ryan						19		18	3505
17	19	Harper Valley P.T.A. - Jeannie C. Riley						20		17	3390
12	20	This Old Heart Of Mine - The Isley Brothers						21		19	3020
28	21	OB-La-Di-Ob-La-Da - The Bedrocks						17		30	2885
21	22	Elenore - The Turtles						27		15	2160
29	23	I Shall Be Released - The Tremeloes						22		29	1970
22	24	If I Knew Then What I Know Now - Val Doonican						26		22	1765
23	25	Quick Joey Small - The Kasenetz-Katz Singing Orchestral Circus						25		25	1710
30	26	Something's Happening - Herman's Hermits						24		28	1655
25	27	Stop Her On Sight (SOS) - Edwin Starr						23			1600
24	28	Those Were The Days - Mary Hopkin						28		24	1195
RE	29	Atlantis - Donovan						29		23	1080
26	30	Don't Forget To Catch Me - Cliff Richard						30		26	625
		Neither MM or The BBC compiled a chart for 28th December. So The Ultimate Averaged Chart was compiled from NME and RR.
		For Once In My Life - Stevie Wonder								27	340

[MrTibbs]

The Beatles should have issued this track in the UK, as it was released in a lot of European countries. Missed out a number one.

I agree Brian, it was the superior version but EMI missed a trick and Marmalade stole the glory. Similarly I never forgave EMI for not releasing The Long And Winding Road here in 1970.

[MrTibbs]

Mr Tibbs: re your suggestion of a version of the chart without RR, I am personally not keen; not because I am particularly fond of RR, but because one cannot deny its existence throughout the 60s. Far more interesting to include the ‘rogue’ charts like Pop Weekly, Music Now, Cashbox etc, although that water has already passed under the bridge, and I am not suggesting you go back now!

The reason I did not include all the other 'rogue' charts membrane is because they were all transient and as such would detract from year on year consistency. I agree about RR though, I included it because it was a recognised chart from 1960 although yes it was also the weakest and least credible and as such did not really bring much to the averaging process.

[brian05]

I am quite sure that EMI held on to all their Beatles sales.

[membranemusic]

Graham: as one who was employed by the music industry for many decades, I am afraid I can refute your suggestion that all sales figures are kept in record company archives indefinitely. Companies are obliged to keep several years of data for accounting, auditing and tax reasons, but as soon as those 6 years are up, out they go to the recycling centre. Reason: it costs money to store stuff which has no commercial value in warehouses. The same would apply to digital back-ups of similar vintage. Sorry!

[membranemusic]

Mr Tibbs: re your suggestion of a version of the chart without RR, I am personally not keen; not because I am particularly fond of RR, but because one cannot deny its existence throughout the 60s. Far more interesting to include the ‘rogue’ charts like Pop Weekly, Music Now, Cashbox etc, although that water has already passed under the bridge, and I am not suggesting you go back now!