The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[membranemusic]

Happy New Year Mr Tibbs, and all other correspondents! Keep up the good work.

[MrTibbs]

I have amended the chart from October 15th to October 1st above guys. I will add the 15th again in 2 days so all charts run in correct sequence.

May I take this opportunity of wishing you all a very Happy New Year when the time comes in a few hours and I really hope 2021 is going to be kinder to us all than 2020.

Thanks again for all your continuing interest and support in both threads I have posted this year and the good news is I will continue this with lots more years into 2021.

Have a good one tonight guys

[MrTibbs]

Oops. Thats what i get for rushing before i left for work as a nurse. I saw the 1 in the index and grabbed it not realising it was 15. Sorry guys will post the 1st when i get in tonight

[Graham76man]

What's going off Brian you have the 15 October for the 1 October chart?

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

There are 14 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 1st 1960.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 1st 1960								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
3	1	Tell Laura I Love Her - Ricky Valance					1	1	1	1	1	1	9900
5	2	Only The Lonely - Roy Orbison					2	3	3	3	2	4	9260
9	3	Nine Times Out Of Ten - Cliff Richard					3	2	2	4	4	6	9130
2	4	The Girl Of My Best Friend / A Mess Of Blues - Elvis Presley*					5=	7	6	2	6	3	8920
1	5	Apache - The Shadows					4	5	5	5	3	2	8770
6	6	How About That - Adam Faith					5=	4	4	6	5	10	8460
4	7	Because They're Young - Duane Eddy					7=	6	8	7	7	5	8000
16	8	So Sad / Lucille - The Everly Brothers					9	11	7	8	10	15	7100
8	9	As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey					7=	8	14	11	8	9	6870
15	10	Walk Don't Run - The Ventures					10=	9	9	10	14	11	6840
10	11	Everybody's Somebody's Fool - Connie Francis					12	13	12	9	15	7	6520
14	12	Walk Don't Run - The John Barry Seven					10=	10	11	12	11	18	6360
7	13	Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard					15	23	17	13	13	8	5050
11	14	When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers					16	17	20	18	12	13	4700
28	15	Let's Think About Living - Bob Luman					17	20	18	15	18	21	4370
12	16	Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters					14	16		14	16	14	4330
13	17	Please Help Me I'm Falling - Hank Locklin					13	15	10		9	12	4210
17	18	Image Of A Girl - Mark Wynter					18		13	16		19	3090
NEW	19	Rocking Goose - Johnny and The Hurricanes					19=	22		17			2260
18	20	Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd						21			19	16	1850
NEW	21	Chain Gang - Sam Cooke						18	19				1760
29	22	Passing Breeze - Russ Conway						19			20	27	1630
23	23	Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris								19		23	1560
19	24	Lorelei - Lonnie Donegan								20		24	1420
24	25	Caribbean Honeymoon - Frank Weir						24			19		1160
21	26	Volare - Bobby Rydell					19=	26			17	29	1160
26	27	Fish Man - Ian Menzies							15				960
27	28	I'll Be Your Hero / Jet Black Machine - Vince Taylor							16				900
RE	29	Nice 'N' Easy - Frank Sinatra						26				25	580
RE	30	Image Of A Girl - Nelson Keene						25					480
		A Mess Of Blues - Elvis Presley						12
		Lucille- The Everly Brothers						14
		Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates										17	420
		If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley										20	330
		I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee										22	270
		MacDonald's Cave - The Piltdown Men						28					240
		Ee-O-Eleven - Sammy Davis Jnr						29					160
		What A Mouth - Tommy Steele						29					160
		Feel So Fine - Johnny Preston										26	150
		Wondrous Place - Billy Fury										28	90
		Them There Eyes - Emile Ford and The Checkmates										30	30
		* This week the split sides would have affected NME's
		averaged chart position so an average was taken
		from the other 4 charts giving an average of 4.25
		and awarded to NME to give a more representative
		chart position for both sides together.

[Graham76man]

I printed out the 24 September Chart of Brian's and put on the sheet the own's from 45 Cat (less the value on 45 Cat, then added the points of the 30 back in giving it a new look. The owns on 45 Cat are one of the best indicators of how well a record sold since the site has a huge membership and a massive amount of record information. If you remove the valuation figure you can remove the rare collectable records and people who might have got it for the money. Though looking at some valuations and people that own the records the site must have a lot of very rich people as members!
For example Sex Pistols Anarchy In The U.K - has 112 owns with a valuation of over £700!

The Shadows remain top (I had to ignore the valuation figure as it would have cancelled out nearly all the owns) I assume the valuation figure on 45 Cat (£155) must be for an odd version. As I can't see the stock copy being that valuable since it topped the charts for weeks!!
The rest of the top ten:
2 Duane Eddy
3 Roy Orbison
4 Johnny Kidd
5 Elvis Presley
6 Cliff - Tease
7 Everly Brothers
8 Adam Faith
9 Ricky Valance
10 Cliff - Nine

Five out of Brian's Chart - Numbers 21, 24, 26, 27, 30.
In the chart from outside Sam Cooke 17, Bryan 20, Jim 22, Frank 28, Wanda 29.

The worst performer and very probably a hyped record is Frank Weir and Caribbean Honeymoon. This has only FIVE owns on 45 Cat! Terrible performance for an NME chart record!

[MrTibbs]

Yeah and they are a nuisance to work with as a bit more time consuming to establish appropriate chart position. Curses on the NME

[Woz1234]

Double AA's from Elvis & Everly Brothers

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

There are 15 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 24th 1960.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 24th 1960								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Apache - The Shadows					1	1	1	2	1	1	9790
2	2	A Mess Of Blues / The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley					4	6	2	1	4	2	9260
5	3	Tell Laura I Love Her - Ricky Valance					2	3	3	3	3	4	9210
3	4	Because They're Young - Duane Eddy					3	4	5	4	2	3	8980
6	5	Only The Lonely - Roy Orbison					5	2	4	5	5	5	8880
17	6	How About That - Adam Faith					6	5	6	7	6	18	7860
4	7	Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard					9	11	9	6	8	7	7540
8	8	As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey					7	8	12	8	7	9	7370
NEW	9	Nine Times Out Of Ten - Cliff Richard					8	7	7	9	9	26	7030
9	10	Everybody's Somebody's Fool - Connie Francis					10	10	8	10	12	8	7010
7	11	When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers					12	14	14	12	10	6	6270
10	12	Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters					11	13	15	11	11	10	6230
16	13	Please Help Me I'm Falling - Hank Locklin					14	17	13	13	15	13	5520
26	14	Walk Don't Run - The John Barry Seven					13	16	17	14	13	24	5020
19	15	Walk Don't Run - The Ventures					15	12	10	15		17	4960
NEW	16	So Sad / Lucille - The Everly Brothers					16	15	10	16		28	4280
13	17	Image Of A Girl - Mark Wynter					17=	23	19	17	18	11	4150
11	18	Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd					17=	22		19	16	15	3270
18	19	Lorelei - Lonnie Donegan						29		18		14	2100
12	20	Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates						21			17	12	2070
22	21	Volare - Bobby Rydell					20	18			20	22	1860
15	22	If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley					17=	24			14	20	1740
14	23	Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris								20		19	1570
25	24	Caribbean Honeymoon - Frank Weir						20	20				1540
20	25	I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee						25			19	16	1530
NEW	26	Fish Man - Ian Menzies							16				900
NEW	27	I'll Be Your Hero / Jet Black Machine - Vince Taylor							18				780
23	28	Let's Think About Living - Bob Luman						26				29	460
NEW	29	Passing Breeze - Russ Conway						26					400
28	30	Feel So Fine - Johnny Preston										21	300
		The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley						8
		Lucille - The Everly Brothers						19
		Chain Gang - Sam Cooke						28					240
		I'd Do Anything - Mike Preston										23	240
		Nice 'N' Easy - Frank Sinatra										25	180
		Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland										27	120
		Let's Have A Party - Wanda Jackson						30					80
		He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves										30	30

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

There are 10 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 17th 1960.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 17th 1960								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Apache - The Shadows					1	1	1	1	1	1	9900
3	2	A Mess Of Blues / The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley					3	3	2	2	4	2	9390
2	3	Because They're Young - Duane Eddy					2	2	3	3	2	3	9370
4	4	Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard					4	7	5	4	3	4	8660
7	5	Tell Laura I Love Her - Ricky Valance					5=	4	4	5	9	7	8460
9	6	Only The Lonely - Roy Orbison					5=	5	6	7	6	13	8010
5	7	When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers					7	11	7	6	5	6	7840
6	8	As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey					8	8	8	8	7	10	7580
8	9	Everybody's Somebody's Fool - Connie Francis					9	9	9	10	8	5	7320
11	10	Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters					10	10	10	9	10	9	7070
12	11	Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd					11	13	15	12	11	8	6180
10	12	Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates					12	15	16	11	14	14	5740
17	13	Image Of A Girl - Mark Wynter					13	23	11	13	12	18	5160
15	14	Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris					15=	16	20	14	18	17	4800
13	15	If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley					14	14	19	20	13	11	4790
19	16	Please Help Me I'm Falling - Hank Locklin					18=	22	13	17	16	16	4540
NEW	17	How About That - Adam Faith					15=	12	12	15			4420
16	18	Lorelei - Lonnie Donegan					17	17		16	20	15	3800
28	19	Walk Don't Run - The Ventures					20	19	14		17	26	2830
14	20	I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee					18=	18			15	12	2410
18	21	Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland						24		19		20	2210
25	22	Volare - Bobby Rydell						21			19	24	1610
NEW	23	Let's Think About Living - Bob Luman								18			1430
NEW	24	Nice 'N' Easy - Frank Sinatra						25	20			28	1230
23	25	Caribbean Honeymoon - Frank Weir						26	18				1180
NEW	26	Walk Don't Run - The John Barry Seven						20					880
26	27	Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae							17				840
20	28	Feel So Fine - Johnny Preston						27				19	680
22	29	Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones						28				22	510
24	30	Look For A Star - Garry Mills										21	300
		The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley						6
		Mais Oui - The King Brothers										23	240
		Mama / Robot Man - Connie Francis										25	180
		White Cliffs Of Dover - Mr. Acker Bilk						29					160
		Alley Oop - The Hollywood Argyles										27	120
		I Just Go For You - Jimmy Jones						30					80
		I'd Do Anything - Mike Preston										29	60
		He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves										30	30

[MrTibbs]

The Ventures debut this week with Walk Don't Run soon to be joined by The John Barry Seven version and both will reach the Top 10. Even by this time this is where The Sheet Music Chart was useful working alongside The Record Chart as it detailed how well a song did overall when there were competing versions on the chart.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

There are 9 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 10th 1960.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 10th 1960								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Apache - The Shadows					1	1	1	1	1	1	9900
3	2	Because They're Young - Duane Eddy					2	2	3	3	2	2	9400
4	3	A Mess Of Blues / The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley					4	4	2	2	4	3	9280
2	4	Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard					3	3	4	4	3	4	9040
5	5	When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers					5	5	6	5	5	5	8520
12	6	As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey					6	7	9	7	7	9	7740
11	7	Tell Laura I Love Her - Ricky Valance					7	9	5	6	8	15	7700
8	8	Everybody's Somebody's Fool - Connie Francis					8	8	7	10	9	8	7380
14	9	Only The Lonely - Roy Orbison					9	12	8	11	6	14	6860
7	10	Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates					11	15	10	8	12	6	6770
16	11	Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters					12	10	15	9	17	7	6480
9	12	Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd					10	11	12	12	10	11	6480
6	13	If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley					13	14	11	13	11	12	6110
15	14	I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee					14	13	17	15	14	13	5430
10	15	Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris					15	16	14	14	16	16	5290
13	16	Lorelei - Lonnie Donegan					16	17	18	18	13	10	4860
18	17	Image Of A Girl - Mark Wynter					17	24	19	16	15	17	4150
17	18	Itsy Bitsy Teent Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland					18	18		17	20	18	3520
NEW	19	Please Help Me I'm Falling - Hank Locklin					19	21	13		18	23	2770
21	20	Feel So Fine - Johnny Preston						22		20		19	2290
RE	21	Please Help Me I'm Falling - The Brook Brothers					20=			19			1320
19	22	Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones						20				21	1180
23	23	Caribbean Honeymoon - Frank Weir						27	20				980
22	24	Look For A Star - Garry Mills						23				20	970
29	25	Volare - Bobby Rydell					20=	19					960
20	26	Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae							15				960
27	27	Mule Skinner Blues - The Fendermen					20=				19		600
NEW	28	Walk Don't Run - The Ventures						25					480
25	29	Image Of A Girl - Nelson Keene						26					400
24	30	Mais Oui - The King Brothers						29				26	310
		The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley						6
		Walking To New Orleans - Fats Domino										22	270
		White Cliffs Of Dover - Mr Acker Bilk						28					240
		Alley Oop - The Hollywood Argyles										24	210
		Mama / Robot Man - Connie Francis										25	180
		I'd Do Anything - Mike Preston										27	120
		Theme From 'A Summer Place' - Percy Faith										28	90
		Broken Doll - Tommy Bruce						30					80
		I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan										29	60
		Them There Eyes - Emile Ford and The Checkmates										30	30

[MrTibbs]

Although Mark Wynter made the Top 20 with his version, Image Of A Girl, it potentially would have been bigger if the sales were not diluted by Jericho Brown and Nelson Keene also taking their versions into the Top 30.

This happened often throughout the fifties and early sixties when competing versions all charted splitting sales. This struck me as relevant just now as I was working on the February 1961 charts where undoubtedly Petula Clark would have had a #1 with Sailor if Anne Shelton's version was not also in the Top 10 as Petula obviously came close by topping both Disc and RR in the same week.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

There are 12 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 3rd 1960.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 3rd 1960								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Apache - The Shadows					1	1	1	1	1	1	9900
2	2	Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard					2	3	4	2	2	2	9370
4	3	Because They're Young - Duane Eddy					3	2	2	4	3	4	9240
3	4	A Mess Of Blues / The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley					4	4	3	3	4	3	9110
5	5	When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers					5	5	5	5	5	5	8580
8	6	If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley					6	6	8	7	6	6	8020
6	7	Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates					7	11	7	6	8	7	7660
10	8	Everybody's Somebody's Fool - Connie Francis					9=	7	6	11	11	11	7220
12	9	Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd					8	9	13	9	9	8	7050
7	10	Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris					9=	14	9	8	7	10	7040
17	11	Tell Laura I Love Her - Ricky Valance					12	12	10	10	16	14	6350
20	12	As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey					11	10	17	13	12	9	6110
19	13	Lorelei - Lonnie Donegan					13	13	11	15	13	17	5720
15	14	Only The Lonely - Roy Orbison					15=	16	12	14	14	15	5540
11	15	I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee					14	15	14	18	10	12	5350
13	16	Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters					15=	17	19	12	15	13	5270
9	17	Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland					17	19	15	16	17	20	4600
18	18	Image Of A Girl - Mark Wynter					19	21	20	17	18	23	3890
14	19	Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones					18	17		19	19	16	3490
21	20	Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae					20=		16	20			2110
23	21	Feel So Fine - Johnny Preston					20=	20				18	1270
16	22	Look For A Star - Garry Mills						21				22	1070
NEW	23	Caribbean Honeymoon - Frank Weir						28	18				1020
24	24	Mais Oui - The King Brothers						23				24	850
NEW	25	Image Of A Girl - Nelson Keene						24					560
NEW	26	I Just Go For You - Jimmy Jones						24					560
30	27	Mule Skinner Blues - The Fendermen					20=				20		550
28	28	Walking To New Orleans - Fats Domino						29				19	520
NEW	29	Volare - Bobby Rydell						26					400
NEW	30	Broken Doll - Tommy Bruce						27					320
		The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley						8
		Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce										21	300
		Please Help Me I'm Falling - Hank Locklin						29				28	250
		Mama / Robot Man - Connie Francis										25	180
		Let's Think About Living - Bob Luman						29					160
		When Johnny Comes Marching Home / Made You - Adam Faith										26	150
		I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan										27	120
		Alley Oop - The Hollywood Argyles										29	60
		White Cliff Of Dover - Mr. Acker Bilk										30	30

[MrTibbs]

Christmas Greetings Pop Pickers !

There are again 8 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 27th 1960.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 27th 1960								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Apache - The Shadows					1	1	1	1	1	1	9900
2	2	Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard					2	2	2	2	2	2	9570
3	3	A Mess Of Blues / The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley					3	4	3	3	3	3	9160
6	4	Because They're Young - Duane Eddy					4	3	4	4	5	6	8880
5	5	When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers					5	5	5	6	4	4	8550
4	6	Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates					6	6	6	5	7	5	8340
8	7	Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris					7	8	7	7	6	10	7800
7	8	If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley					8	7	8	8	8	7	7700
9	9	Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland					9	14	11	10	10	14	6430
15	10	Everybody's Somebody's Fool - Connie Francis					12=	9	9	13	16	13	6350
13	11	I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee					10	10	10	15	9	15	6280
14	12	Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd					12=	18	15	9	11	8	6110
11	13	Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters					14	16	18	11	12	17	5550
10	14	Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones					11	11		12	13	9	5250
21	15	Only The Lonely - Roy Orbison					15	19	14	16	14	22	4750
12	16	Look For A Star - Garry Mills					18=	20	20	18	15	11	4370
27	17	Tell Laura I Love Her - Ricky Valance					17	17	15	14		26	4100
22	18	Image Of A Girl - Mark Wynter					20	22	17	17	20		3650
NEW	19	Lorelei - Lonnie Donegan					16	13	12		17		3280
17	20	As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey					18=	14			18	12	2580
18	21	Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae							13	20			2290
16	22	Mama / Robot Man - Connie Francis						25		19		18	2190
26	23	Feel So Fine - Johnny Preston						23			19	20	1570
19	24	Mais Oui - The King Brothers						20				16	1330
24	25	Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce						24				19	920
28	26	Listen Little Girl - Keith Kelly							19				720
23	27	Made You / When Johnny Comes Marching Home - Adam Faith						26				21	700
29	28	Walking To New Orleans - Fats Domino						27				23	560
25	29	What A Mouth - Tommy Steel						29				25	340
NEW	30	Mule Skinner Blues - The Fendermen						27					320
		The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley						12
		I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan										24	210
		Image Of A Girl - Nelson Keene						29					160
		Train Of Love - Alma Cogan										27	120
		Theme From 'A Summer Place' - Percy Faith										28	90
		Old Oaken Bucket - Tommy Sands										29	60
		He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves										30	30

[Robbie]

Interesting facts from 45cat.com: 'A Mess Of Blues' was the last RCA Victor single to be released on both 78rpm and 45rpm. The single was poorly marketed in the UK as RCA released the single as a stop gap while waiting for legal wranglings over 'It's Now Or Never' to be sorted. The problem was copyright problems in the European markets. In the US there was no such problems. In the US 'A Mess Of Blues' was relegated to the B side of 'It's Now Or Never' and 'The Girl Of My Best Friend' never saw the light of day as a single.

[MrTibbs]

Agreed Robbie. It was the stronger side. Mess Of Blues was never one of his best.

[Robbie]

Merry Christmas Mr Tibbs.

I've always preferred 'The Girl Of My Best Friend' to 'A Mess Of The Blues'. At least the song became a hit in its own right in 1976.

[MrTibbs]

Roy Orbison kicks off his illustrious career with a single heading for #1, but Ricky Valance will beat him to it.

[MrTibbs]

Merry Christmas Pop Pickers !

There are 8 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart Top 20 and The Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 20.

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 20th 1960.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 20th 1960								NME	RM	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	80	60	110	50	30	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC				TOP	30	Scored
2	1	Apache - The Shadows					1	1	1	2	1	2	9760
1	2	Please Don't Tease - Cliff Richard					2	2	2	1	2	1	9710
3	3	A Mess Of Blues/ The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley					3	3	3	3	3	4	9210
4	4	Shakin' All Over - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates					4	5	6	4	5	3	8690
6	5	When Will I Be Loved - The Everly Brothers					5	6	4	5	4	5	8610
7	6	Because They're Young - Duane Eddy					6	4	5	6	6	7	8440
9	7	If She Should Come To You - Anthony Newley					7	7	7	8	8	6	7790
10	8	Tie Me Kangaroo Down Sport - Rolf Harris					8	7	8	7	10	9	7650
8	9	Itsy Bitsy Teeny Weeny Yellow Polka Dot Bikini - Brian Hyland					9	11	9	9	7	8	7230
5	10	Good Timin' - Jimmy Jones					10	9	11	10	9	10	7000
15	11	Paper Roses - The Kaye Sisters					12	13	13	13	12	16	5900
11	12	Look For A Star - Garry Mills					11	12	17	14	11	13	5770
16	13	I'm Sorry - Brenda Lee					13	10	10	12		12	5600
17	14	Love Is Like A Violin - Ken Dodd					14	21	19	11	13	11	5220
NEW	15	Everybody's Somebody's Fool - Connie Francis					17=	17	12	16			3910
12	16	Mama / Robot Man - Connie Francis					15	25		17	14	14	3380
19	17	As Long As He Needs Me - Shirley Bassey					17=	13	20		19	20	3030
20	18	Talkin' Army Blues - Josh McCrae					19=		14	15			2780
21	19	Mais Oui - The King Brothers					16	16			16	18	2340
NEW	20	Please Help Me I'm Falling - The Brook Brothers							16	19			2220
NEW	21	Only The Lonely - Roy Orbison						28	17		17	23	2020
NEW	22	Image Of A Girl - Mark Wynter								18	20		1980
14	23	When Johnny Comes Marching Home / Made You - Adam Faith					19=	23			15	17	1860
13	24	Ain't Misbehavin' - Tommy Bruce						20			18	21	1830
18	25	What A Mouth - Tommy Steele						30		20		15	1770
28	26	Feel So Fine - Johnny Preston						18				27	1160
NEW	27	Tell Laura I Love Her - Ricky Valance						19					960
24	28	Listen Little Girl - Keith Kelly							15				960
25	29	Walking To New Orleans - Fats Domino						22				24	930
23	30	I Wanna Go Home - Lonnie Donegan						24				22	830
		The Girl Of My Best Friend - Elvis Presley						15
		Train Of Love - Alma Cogan						26					400
		Angela Jones - Michael Cox										19	360
		Mule Skinner Blues - The Fendermen						27					320
		Old Oaken Bucket - Tommy Sands										25	180
		Handy Man - Jimmy Jones						29					160
		How Do You Know It's Love - Teresa Brewer										26	150
		The Lady Is A Tramp - Buddy Greco										28	90
		Apache - Bert Weedon										29	60
		He'll Have To Go - Jim Reeves										30	30

[MrTibbs]

I will post todays chart a bit later today.

[MrTibbs]

Wishing all u guys all the compliments of the season at this difficult time in the world.

I hope you all have a spcial time today.

[setg1]

Another cover of "Apache" by Jørgen Ingmann (nowhere near as good as the Shadows' version either) was the hit version in the US and Scandinavia. That version doesn't appear to have received a UK release at all, probably they realized it wouldn't sell. The Nordic countries probably went for Ingmann's version because he was Danish (and thus more of a local artist), no idea about the US...

[Metalweb]

Didn't Bert Weedon's version actually pre-date the Shadows?

Obviously inferior nonetheless...

[MrTibbs]

Yeah it's not good Brian, why would anyone want to buy that version over The Shadows superior version.