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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Amen Corner wiped the floor with American Breed's version of Bend Me Shape Me. Superb !

    There are 11 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 27th 1968

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 27th 1968 NME MM RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    6 1 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 1 1 1 2 15965
    1 2 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 2 2 2 1 15600
    7 3 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 3 3 3 3 14980
    4 4 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 4 4 5 6 14025
    2 5 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 6 5 4 7 13990
    14 6 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 5 6 6 4 13545
    3 7 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 7 8 7 5 12810
    5 8 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 8 7 7 8 12755
    12 9 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 9 10 10 9 11320
    17 10 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 10 9 11 10 11185
    8 11 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 11 12 9 16 10575
    24 12 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 12 13 15 13 9130
    9 13 World - The Bee Gees 13 16 13 12 9115
    NEW 14 I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving - Herman's Hermits 14 14 17 17 8090
    10 15 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 16 17 14 19 8070
    NEW 16 Suddenly You Love Me - The Tremeloes 15 14 21 14 7345
    11 17 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 19 23 12 20 7285
    19 18 Paradise Lost - The Herd 18 19 18 15 7010
    13 19 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 20 21 16 18 6855
    30 20 The Mighty Quinn - Manfred Mann 21 11 22 26 6675
    NEW 21 Bend Me Shape Me - Amen Corner 17 17 23 11 6500
    26 22 Darlin' - The Beach Boys 22 22 20 25 5060
    16 23 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 23 26 19 23 4680
    28 24 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 24 20 29 21 3550
    25 25 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 25 24 25 24 3495
    18 26 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 27 25 24 29 3120
    15 27 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 26 27 28 22 2315
    21 28 The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 28 28 26 27 2190
    20 29 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 29 27 28 1255
    NEW 30 Anniversary Waltz - Anita Harris 30 29 400
    All My Love - Cliff Richard 30 30 335
    The Best Part Of Breaking Up - The Symbols 30 200

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  • MrTibbs
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    lmao @ Dumpertruck

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  • Splodj
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    There was another interview with Dick James in Disc and Music Echo when 'All You Need Is Love' was released, where he goes into the arrangements he made to get it pressed quickly and makes a fairly accurate estimate of its total sales.

    On the subject of sales figures for 1967 I share the scepticism about accuracy, but tend to believe the relative sales declared by individual record companies. So for example when EMI say that 'All You Need Is Love' sold more than 'Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever' I see no reason to think they are lying.

    Incidentally DandME did a points chart for 1967 where the 3 Dumpertruck singles also formed the top 3, albeit with 'The Last Waltz' on top.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    There are 12 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 20th 1968

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 20th 1968 NME MM RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    5 1 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 1 1 1 2 15965
    4 2 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 2 2 3 5 15010
    2 3 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 4 6 2 4 14545
    3 4 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 5 3 4 6 14475
    1 5 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 3 4 5 1 14450
    18 6 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 6 5 6 3 13830
    22 7 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 7 7 7 8 12755
    7 8 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 8 8 8 7 12390
    8 9 World - The Bee Gees 9 9 9 11 11600
    6 10 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 10 10 10 10 11235
    9 11 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 11 11 12 12 10365
    15 12 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 13 12 11 14 10245
    11 13 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 12 14 13 9 9770
    24 14 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 14 13 14 13 9380
    10 15 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 15 17 16 15 7910
    13 16 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 16 18 15 16 7875
    26 17 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 18 15 18 22 7215
    14 18 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 19 19 17 19 6920
    20 19 Paradise Lost - The Herd 17 16 21 20 6435
    12 20 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 20 20 19 17 6390
    19 21 The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 21 24 20 21 5000
    16 22 Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry 22 23 23 23 4280
    17 23 All My Love - Cliff Richard 24 29 22 25 3160
    30 24 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 23 26 27 18 3105
    NEW 25 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 25 25 25 27 3040
    NEW 26 Darlin' - The Beach Boys 27 21 28 2750
    25 27 Jackie - Scott Walker 26 24 24 2345
    29 28 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 28 22 30 1885
    21 29 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 29 26 26 1675
    NEW 30 The Mighty Quinn - Manfred Mann 30 27 800
    Suddenly You Love Me - The Tremeloes 28 600
    Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark Five 30 28 505
    I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving - Herman's Hermits 29 500
    Mr. Second Class - The Spencer Davis Group 30 200
    The Best Part Of Breaking Up - The Symbols 29 170

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks for that Brian it confirms that by 13th January MMT was indeed already a big seller with more sales to come so perhaps its inclusion in the Top Ten singles of 1967 was justified after all.

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  • brian05
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    So the MMT EP made no. 1 in the Melody Maker (and DISC) chart. Here's a scan from DISC dated 13th January 1968, with some sales figures.



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  • MrTibbs
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    Yeah, agree Robbie, some cracking toons on this chart, John Fred, Simon Dupree, Monkees, Four Tops, Georgie Fame, Both Beatles, Long John Baldry, Scaffold (Thank U Very Much for 'luv'), Scott Walker, Plastic Penny, all my pocket money went on those back in the day.

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  • Robbie
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    'Judy In Disguise' - a great song. I also love the version by Silicon Teens which was released in January 1980. I also love the kitsch sound of 'Kites' by Simon Dupree. It doesn't matter how many times I hear the song, I never get fed up of hearing it.

    My mum used to own a compilation album which contained 'She Wears My Ring' by Solomon King. I remember being surprised when I found out it was a hit in 1968 as it sounds a decade out of date.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    There are 8 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 13th 1968

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 13th 1968 NME MM RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 1 1 3 1 15550
    2 2 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 2 4 1 2 15365
    6 3 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 3 2 2 5 15260
    8 4 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 4 3 4 3 14730
    13 5 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 5 5 5 4 13995
    5 6 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 6 7 6 6 13175
    4 7 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 7 6 7 7 13040
    9 8 World - The Bee Gees 8 8 8 12 11965
    11 9 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 9 9 10 9 11520
    7 10 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 11 11 9 11 11200
    3 11 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 10 10 11 8 11155
    10 12 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 13 12 12 13 10080
    14 13 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 12 13 13 10 9885
    18 14 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 14 14 14 14 9095
    20 15 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 15 15 17 16 7975
    12 16 Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry 16 18 15 18 7705
    16 17 All My Love - Cliff Richard 17 19 16 17 7340
    NEW 18 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 18 20 18 15 6810
    19 19 The Other's Man's Grass - Petula Clark 19 17 21 20 6235
    28 20 Paradise Lost - The Herd 20 21 22 21 5100
    17 21 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 21 26 20 19 4770
    NEW 22 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 23 16 24 4750
    15 23 Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark Five 22 27 19 22 4565
    NEW 24 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 24 22 26 23 3730
    22 25 Jackie - Scott Walker 25 27 23 24 3395
    NEW 26 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 26 24 27 27 2740
    26 27 Susannah's Still Alive - Dave Davies 27 22 26 2225
    23 28 Big Spender - Shirley Bassey 30 25 1500
    NEW 29 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 29 25 1200
    NEW 30 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 28 30 25 760
    Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 28 750
    I Only Live To Love You - Cilla Black 29 29 670
    Chain Of Fools - Aretha Franklin 29 400
    I Second That Emotion - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 28 255
    Love Is All Around - The Troggs 30 200
    I Feel Love Coming On - Felice Taylor 30 85


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  • Splodj
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    Magical Mystery Tour moves in mysterious ways in the MM charts. After climbing more slowly, it is about to take a leap ...

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here we go ! Onward and Upward into 1968

    There are 18 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 6th 1968

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 6th 1968 NME MM RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 16050
    2 2 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 2 2 4 2 15015
    3 3 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 4 3 2 8 14805
    4 4 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 3 4 3 3 14780
    9 5 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 6 7 5 4 13595
    6 6 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 6 5 6 6 13575
    8 7 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 8 8 7 7 12640
    7 8 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 7 6 11 5 12210
    11 9 World - The Bee Gees 9 9 10 12 11265
    5 10 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 11 10 9 14 11145
    13 11 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 10 11 12 9 10620
    10 12 Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry 13 14 8 15 10510
    12 13 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 12 12 14 10 9835
    15 14 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 14 13 16 11 9050
    14 15 Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark Five 15 16 13 17 8690
    16 16 All My Love - Cliff Richard 18 15 17 18 7805
    18 17 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 19 19 15 16 7675
    17 18 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 16 17 18 13 7580
    21 19 The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 17 18 20 21 6200
    19 20 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 20 22 19 19 5820
    22 21 Love Is All Around - The Troggs 23 23 22 26 4275
    20 22 Jackie - Scott Walker 21 21 26 22 4015
    25 23 Big Spender - Shirley Bassey 24 27 21 24 3895
    23 24 There Must Be A Way - Frankie Vaughan 26 24 24 30 3235
    24 25 I Feel Love Coming On - Felice Taylor 25 25 25 25 3210
    26 26 Susannah's Still Alive - Dave Davies 22 20 20 3135
    28 27 So Tired - Frankie Vaughan 27 23 27 2340
    NEW 28 Paradise Lost - The Herd 28 28 23 1430
    RE 29 Soul Man - Sam and Dave 29 27 28 1255
    27 30 Baby Now That I've Found You - The Foundations 30 26 1000
    Zabadak - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 28 30 850
    I Only Live To Love You - Cilla Black 29 29 670
    There Is A Mountain - Donovan 29 400
    Chain Of Fools - Aretha Franklin 30 200

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  • MrTibbs
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    Before I continue into 1968 here is my usual end of year list of non charting injustices, the records which were criminally ignored in 1967 and should (in my humble opinion) have charted here in the UK.

    Buckinghams - Kind Of A Drag
    Doors - Light My Fire
    Ed Ames - My Cup Runneth Over
    Lulu - Best Of Both Worlds and To Sir With Love (should have been singles here too)
    P.P. Arnold - The Time Has Come (how the he** did this manage to miss out)
    Peter Paul and Mary - I Dig Rock And Roll Music
    Spanky and Our Gang - Sunday Will Never Be The Same
    Union Gap - Woman Woman

    Ah well ! 1968 next.

    Brian.

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  • kingofskiffle
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    It's not a worthy thing - it allows us to amend posts and post reasons why. Comments sort of can get out of hand if you want to comment on the comment I'm making on a post (You can see the coding issues this could cause). I think there was a post about it in the Front Desk but can't recall....

  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    MM did not compile a chart for this week and neither did the BBC, so the chart this week is based on NME and RR.

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 30th 1967.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 30th 1967 NME MM RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 1 1 8550
    7 2 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 2 2 8265
    2 3 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 3 4 7895
    4 4 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 4 3 7780
    6 5 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 5 11 6900
    12 6 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 7 7 6840
    16 7 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 6 10 6785
    5 8 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 9 5 6610
    10 9 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 8 9 6470
    3 10 Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry 12 8 5755
    9 11 World - The Bee Gees 11 15 5360
    23 12 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 10 18 5305
    11 13 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 13 14 5045
    8 14 Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark Five 14 16 4675
    14 15 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 16 12 4615
    13 16 All My Love - Cliff Richard 19 6 4525
    17 17 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 15 17 4390
    15 18 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 17 13 4330
    19 19 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 20 19 3220
    24 20 Jackie - Scott Walker 18 28 2855
    NEW 21 The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 22 24 2395
    18 22 Love Is All Around - The Troggs 21 27 2340
    22 23 There Must Be A Way - Frankie Vaughan 24 20 2335
    20 24 I Feel Love Coming On - Felice Taylor 25 21 2050
    26 25 Big Spender - Shirley Bassey 26 22 1765
    29 26 Susannah's Still Alive - Dave Davies 23 30 1685
    21 27 Baby Now That I've Found You - The Foundations 27 25 1310
    25 28 So Tired - Frankie Vaughan 23 680
    27 29 Zabadak - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 28 600
    NEW 30 La Derniere Valse - Mireille Mathieu 26 425
    Neither MM or The BBC compiled a chart for 30th December. So The Ultimate Averaged Chart was compiled from NME and RR. 0
    There Is A Mountain - Donovan 29 400
    Autumn Almanac - The Kinks 30 200
    I Only Live To Love You - Cilla Black 29 170


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  • MrTibbs
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    I find The Top Ten Of Music really useful and lots of its bestseller lists credible, however, some of its lists do seem to incorporate sales in the top ten split between the two years, and others don't. A few records listed in the top ten in a few lists do raise my eyebrows as well, as do some of the omissions.

    I honestly believe that ANY list of bestselling singles of the fifties, sixties and early seventies is highly suspect as accurate sales data is notably sketchy at best for many records.

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  • Splodj
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    What is the rationale behind only moderators being allowed to comment? Are their comments deemed to be more worthy, or are they supposed to confine their comments strictly to matters of moderation?

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  • brian05
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    Wayne from HelpDesk said,
    I turned this feature off a few weeks ago - only moderation team members should be able to "Comment" now.

    Graham76man - I did not know you were a moderator!! Congratulations.

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  • Splodj
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    Yes I think the 'Top Ten of Music (1993)' is based on the total sales of records released in 1967, whereas my list is sales within 1967. They are compatible with each other, just that the former has Hello Goodbye and Magical Mystery Tour appearing - caused by the significant sales of both after December 1967.
    Last edited by Splodj; Tue November 3, 2020, 14:21.

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  • Graham76man
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    Don't know why? I don't think it's a paid member thing. Could be your browser. If it's not a paid member thing, or you are a paid member, post on the help thread saying you can't comment.
    I had the EP clocking up sales of 379K, but there was a sales reduction the week before Christmas overall. Could have been a weather issue affecting sales, or something else.
    Point based best seller lists have the problem of single sales overall sales. The points for a number one remain the same. The sales of records do not stay the same. You can sell 600K one week then next week 100K.
    Incidentally Hello, Goodbye I believe suffered from poor distribution. EMI couldn't get over 300K to the shops after the second week at the top. They were only managing three quarters of it.

  • brian05
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    Singles were 6 shillings and 8 old pence (0.33) while the EP was 19 shilling and 6 old pence (0.98). The EP was that price because it included a 32 page book and 4 pages of lyrics. A normal EP was 10 shillings and 6 old pence (0.53).

    The imported MMT LP was 47 shillings and 6 old pence (2.38).
    Last edited by brian05; Tue November 3, 2020, 10:56.

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  • brian05
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    To Graham76man, how come you can comment but I can't? That facility is turned off for me.

    It depends when the top selling lists end - a cut-off date of 31st December or whether sales are included for the following year as well. It then becomes a list of the best-selling records issued in a given year. That could explain the difference in these lists. Some of course were points based.

    As for MMT EP - By the date of release, it had advance orders of 400,000 and 600,000 had been shipped by mid-January 1968. [see The Long And Winding Road book]. [The Rock Lists Album] top 100 of the sixties had the EP at number 50. So final sales could be around 750,000 by 1993.

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  • Robbie
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    A question to anyone who was buying singles at the time: how much more expensive would the price of 'Magical Mystery Tour' EP have been compared to the price of a standard single?

    It's also interesting to see how much better the EP is performing on the Record Retailer chart when compared to the other two charts.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    There are a massive16 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending December 23rd 1967.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending December 23rd 1967 NME MM RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 16050
    4 2 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 2 2 2 4 15345
    2 3 Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry 4 3 4 6 14475
    7 4 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 3 5 5 2 14165
    5 5 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 5 4 6 5 13860
    6 6 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 6 6 3 11 13700
    15 7 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 7 8 10 3 12230
    3 8 Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark Five 9 7 8 13 12080
    8 9 World - The Bee Gees 10 9 7 14 11845
    10 10 Thank U Very Much - Scaffold 8 10 9 9 11570
    14 11 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 13 11 11 15 10360
    11 12 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 11 13 12 8 10305
    9 13 All My Love - Cliff Richard 12 12 15 7 9840
    13 14 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 14 16 13 10 9285
    12 15 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 15 17 14 12 8665
    22 16 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 16 14 16 16 8425
    19 17 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 17 15 17 17 7890
    16 18 Love Is All Around - The Troggs 20 20 18 25 5960
    25 19 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 18 22 20 18 5655
    18 20 I Feel Love Coming On - Felice Taylor 19 23 19 19 5620
    17 21 Baby Now That I've Found You - The Foundations 21 21 23 23 4680
    20 22 There Must be A Way - Frankie Vaughan 22 25 22 20 4385
    30 23 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 23 18 29 22 3865
    28 24 Jackie - Scott Walker 25 19 27 29 3570
    24 25 So Tired - Frankie Vaughan 24 21 21 3350
    26 26 Big Spender - Shirley Bassey 26 27 24 24 3145
    21 27 Zabadak - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 27 24 28 2150
    23 28 There Is A Mountain - Donovan 29 29 25 1900
    29 29 Susannah's Still Alive - Dave Davies 28 26 27 1340
    RE 30 Soul Man - Sam and Dave 26 1250
    The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 30 28 28 855
    Autumn Almanac - The Kinks 30 30 450
    I Only Live To Love You - Cilla Black 26 425
    La Derniere Valse - Mireille Mathieu 30 85

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  • Graham76man
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    Made up sales charts by the Record Industry should never be trusted. So in the words of Shrek "You thought wrong".

  • Graham76man
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    Since there were no charts at the time actually counting record sales this was either made up from points, or based on shipping figures. Including sales from 1968. It's highly unlikely the EP would have sold enough to make the top ten of the year in about 3 weeks! It wasn't even number one (officially).
    It doesn't even make the top 100 of the year on the same chart.
    You can see the full charts from 1967 and the best sellers over over 220 that sold 250K from Thursday night on my blog.

    And there seem to be competing lists of even "official figures" as Splodj list is not the same.
    However even my list is also based on sales inside the top 100 charts and takes no account of the sales outside them. Which were as high as 6K at times.

    Based on Brian's 535 shops if they all sold 30 copies each of the number one that would by 16,050 sold. So 6,000 divided by 8,000 shops is actually zero copies sold by any shops. Well it's 0.75 of a copy, but I don't believe anyone bought three quarters of a record. But I could be wrong!!
    Last edited by Graham76man; Tue November 3, 2020, 00:43. Reason: Extra details
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