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  • Splodj
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    I wonder how Cashbox compiled their British chart. Alan Smith says it was a composite topped up with small-scale sampling.

    However the Cashbox Top 20 does not bear such a striking similarity to the BBC chart as the Pop Weekly Top 30 which was supposed to be compiled in the same way (but ended in Nov-65). Looking at the 1-Jul-67 Cashbox the chart appears to be comparable to w/e 24-June published UK ones, evidenced by The Turtles entering at 16, but there are significant differences. For example, it has the Kinks at 3 instead of 5 or 7.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks Splodj, I took a look and thought The Supremes are at 6, then noticed I had, The Happening by The Happening lol, have corrected that, thanks for picking it up

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  • Splodj
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    Brian, simply for tidying up - should be Supremes at 6 on 24-June.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending July 1st 1967. Enjoy !

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 1st 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    3 3 Carrie Anne - The Hollies 3 3 3 3 3 17780
    7 4 Okay - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 4= 5 4 5 4 16845
    8 5 Paper Sun - Traffic 4= 4 5 4 5 16810
    17 6 She'd Rather Be With Me - The Turtles 6 7 6 7 6 15575
    23 7 Alternate Title - The Monkees 7 6 7 9 7 15240
    10 8 Groovin' - The Young Rascals 8 8 8 8 8 14605
    4 9 Silence Is Golden - The Tremeloes 9 9 12 6 9 13520
    6 10 The Happening - The Supremes 10 11 9 10 10 13385
    15 11 Here Comes The Nice - The Small Faces 11 10 10 11 14 12895
    13 12 Don't Sleep In The Subway - Petula Clark 12 14 11 12 12 11915
    16 13 If I Were A Rich Man - Topol 13 16 13 13 11 11000
    5 14 Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks 14= 12 15 15 15 10760
    9 15 Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley 14= 13 17 14 13 10330
    11 16 Then I Kissed Her - The Beach Boys 16 19 14 17 16 9325
    12 17 Finchley Central - The New Vaudeville Band 17 23 16 16 18 7955
    24 18 Seven Rooms Of Gloom - The Four Tops 18 18 21 18 17 7590
    30 19 It Must Be Him - Vikki Carr 19 17 20 20 20 7585
    25 20 Strange Brew - Cream 20 15 23 21 19 7220
    18 21 What Good Am I - Cilla Black 21 21 18 19 24 7045
    19 22 Roses Of Picardy - Vince Hill 22= 25 19 24 22 5665
    14 23 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 22= 22 22 23 23 5530
    27 24 Respect - Aretha Franklin 24 20 24 22 25 5360
    20 25 Night Of The Long Grass - The Troggs 25 24 26 25 21 4100
    21 26 I'll Come Running - Cliff Richard 26 26 25 26 26 3425
    NEW 27 See Emily Play - Pink Floyd 27 27 27 29 28 2255
    22 28 The First Cut Is The Deepest - P.P. Arnold 28 28 28 27 1390
    28 29 Give Me Time - Dusty Springfield 30 29 29 670
    29 30 The Wind Cries Mary - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 28 600
    Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (LP) - The Beatles 30 200
    Take Me In Your Arms And Love Me - Gladys Knight and The Pips 29 27 30 485
    Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 29 400
    Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 30 250
    When You're Young And In Love - The Marvelettes 30 100

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  • Graham76man
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    One of the great injustices in these charts is the Association - Windy not making the top 50 of any of the charts. It reached only the breakers of RR, but made number 15 in the Real Chart. It should have been in the top 30 over the next few weeks of these charts.
    I know that Alan Smith said that each chart used different shops, but the fact that there is not a great deal of difference with them and records missing out that did sell large enough quantities to at least make the top 50 on some of the charts, implies that many shops supplied the same papers with lists.
    Another thing that is odd too is that one of the contributors to this thread mentioned a Council auditing the charts! That's seem very strange that a public authority would do something like that as all the charts were produced by profit making commercial companies! I assume that the Council was paid the going rate and it wasn't done using the rate payers money. But even so should it even been undertaken by the Council in the first place? Wasn't the Council muscling in on a commercial auditing firms in doing so?
    Can you see that happening today?
    Though we think Council's are above board now (they aren't of course), the 60's Council's were not that squeaky clean at all. For example it is known that several commercial concrete firms had their hands in Council pots, and you only have to look around most towns and cities to see the over use of concrete!
    So rather than justifying the charts a Council auditing was by today's standards on dodgy grounds. But fine then.

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  • Graham76man
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    I think you mean "7 Rooms of Gloom".

  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    And into the chart comes one of my very favourite singles of 1967, She'd Rather Be With Me from The Turtles. Wonderful stuff !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 24th 1967. Enjoy !

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 24th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    6 3 Carrie Anne - The Hollies 3 3 3 3 3 17780
    4 4 Silence Is Golden - The Tremeloes 4 4 6 4 4 16645
    3 5 Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks 5 5 7 5 5 16010
    5 6 The Happening - The Supremes 6= 7 4 7 7 15990
    11 7 Okay - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 6= 6 5 8 6 15925
    12 8 Paper Sun - Traffic 8 8 10 6 8 14305
    10 9 Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley 9 9 13 11 9 12770
    13 10 Groovin' - The Young Rascals 10 10 12 10 11 12750
    8 11 Then I Kissed Her - The Beach Boys 11 11 11 12 10 12685
    9 12 Finchley Central - The New Vaudeville Band 12 14 9 9 13 12630
    16 13 Don't Sleep In The Subway - Petula Clark 13 16 8 13 15 11910
    7 14 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 14 13 15 14 12 10915
    24 15 Here Comes The Nice - The Small Faces 16 12 16 17 16 10225
    17 16 If I Were A Rich Man - Topol 15 17 14 15 14 10095
    NEW 17 She'd Rather Be With Me - The Turtles 17 15 20 18 19 8270
    27 18 What Good Am I - Cilla Black 20 18 18 16 28 7605
    14 19 Roses Of Picardy - Vince Hill 18 22 17 20 18 7505
    20 20 Night Of The Long Grass - The Troggs 19 24 19 19 17 6790
    25 21 I'll Come Running - Cliff Richard 22 19 22 21 29 5820
    18 22 The First Cut Is The Deepest - P.P. Arnold 21 27 21 22 20 5135
    NEW 23 Alternate Title - The Monkees 26 21 24 29 30 4035
    30 24 Seven Rooms Of Gloom - The Four Tops 23 23 28 23 21 4000
    NEW 25 Strange Brew - Cream 24 20 25 22 3565
    19 26 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 25 27 25 27 24 3295
    NEW 27 Respect - Aretha Franklin 27 25 27 26 27 3040
    23 28 Give Me Time - Dusty Springfield 29 23 30 26 2525
    15 29 The Wind Cries Mary - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 28 29 26 23 2330
    NEW 30 It Must Be Him - Vikki Carr 30 26 30 24 1950
    Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (LP) - The Beatles 30 200
    Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 29 25 1010
    Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 28 300
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  • MrTibbs
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    Yeah I get the similarity between the Tops and R Dean as well. I love Motown.

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  • Metalweb
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    Agree Seven Rooms Of Gloom is a great track - it's pretty similar to R Dean Taylor's rather better known There's A Ghost In My House.

    Bizarrely, Blondie covered Seven Rooms Of Gloom live on their 79/80 UK tour!
    Last edited by Metalweb; Sat October 17, 2020, 22:04.

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  • Graham76man
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    Don't forget these charts used points not sales. To them one shop which sold 200 copies of a record was equal to a larger shop selling five times that amount. It's pretty inconsistent too that the Hump would miss the top spot and he didn't, not in the real world. Especially when you put Woolies into the play, which none of the above charts did.
    Though Procol would go on to sell 1,703, they were out of the charts by September and Hump was still in November currently on 1,503 as I am still doing the full 1967 chart. However I can't see the record passing their figure.

  • MrTibbs
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    I believe Whiter Shade sold more over the weeks it thankfully kept Engelbert from No 1 but Engelbert picked up more sales overall by hanging around the chart for longer.
    Yeah Splodj when I visited the newspaper library at Colindale a while back to copy all the chart positions I was well into 1969 copying the Disc chart before I realised it was the same as MM.

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  • Robbie
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    At least Procul Harum did what the Beatles couldn't do - they stopped Engelbert in his tracks! How many copies did 'A Whiter Shade Of Pale' sell? I once read it sold 600,000 copies which seems a bit low for a 6 week (on Record Retailer) chart topper. I've seen a figure of 750,000 for 'There Goes My Everything' which doesn't tie in with the Procol Harum figure.

    Good to see 'Seven Rooms Of Gloom' by The Four Tops making the Ultimate Averaged Chart on the NME chart placing alone. The other newspapers were behind at first on this one and, as a result, so too was POTP. It's a seemingly forgotten Four Tops single. Great song though and a change from their normal style of flowing Motown songs. Excellent vocals and brilliant drumming. Although the track is listed on the charts as 'Seven Rooms Of Gloom', the credit on the actual record is '7-Rooms Of Gloom'.

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  • Splodj
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    Indeed it does seem silly to include albums when you have them listed in a separate chart.

    When Disc stopped compiling their own single and album charts there was no mention of it in the paper and I bet very few readers realised they had switched over to using MMs. Only after few years did they have a MM credit underneath their printed chart.

    Also Disc did not say who provided their USA charts in the 60s, perhaps presuming that you assumed it was Billboard. In fact only RM did not use Billboard, with Cashbox. Then when Billboard took over RM they became the only one who did use Billboard, with MM changing to Record World and the other two changing to Cashbox.
    Last edited by Splodj; Sat October 17, 2020, 08:26.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 17th 1967. Enjoy !

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 17th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    4 2 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    3 3 Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks 3= 4 3 4 3 17480
    2 4 Silence Is Golden - The Tremeloes 3= 3 4 3 4 17445
    7 5 The Happening - The Supremes 5 5 5 6 6 16325
    14 6 Carrie Anne - The Hollies 6 6 8 5 5 15560
    5 7 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 7 7 6 9 9 15120
    6 8 The I Kissed Her - The Beach Boys 8 8 10 7 8 14205
    10 9 Finchley Central - The New Vaudeville Band 9 11 7 10 11 13800
    9 10 Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley 10 10 9 14 7 13440
    16 11 Okay - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 11 9 11 12 10 13085
    24 12 Paper Sun - Traffic 13 14 12 13 12 11565
    22 13 Groovin' - The Young Rascals 12 12 15 8 14 11545
    15 14 Roses Of Picardy - Vince Hill 14 16 13 11 13 11030
    8 15 The Wind Cries Mary - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 15 13 17 18 15 9760
    26 16 Don't Sleep In The Subway - Petula Clark 16= 15 16 15 22 9315
    21 17 If I Were A Rich Man - Topol 16= 20 14 17 17 9040
    17 18 The First Cut Is The Deepest - P.P. Arnold 18 18 18 16 18 8455
    12 19 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 19 17 20 20 20 7585
    28 20 Night Of The Long Grass - The Troggs 20 21 19 22 19 6920
    11 21 Pictures Of Lily - The Who 22 21 23 27 21 5250
    13 22 Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 21 28 21 26 16 4875
    23 23 Give Me Time - Dusty Springfield 23 26 24 21 27 4090
    NEW 24 Here Comes The Nice - The Small Faces 26 19 26 26 4075
    NEW 25 I'll Come Running - Cliff Richard 27 23 25 24 3800
    18 26 Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 24= 22 23 25 3560
    NEW 27 What Good Am I - Cilla Black 24= 23 28 19 3550
    19 28 The Boat That I Row - Lulu 28= 27 25 29 1770
    20 29 Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings - Tom Jones 28= 29 29 23 1380
    NEW 30 Seven Rooms Of Gloom - The Four Tops 25 1200
    Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (LP) - The Beatles 27 800
    New York Mining Disaster 1941 - The Bee Gees 30 30 24 845
    Strange Brew - Cream 29 28 700
    I Got Rhythm - The Happenings 30 28 355
    Respect - Aretha Franklin 30 200
    Casino Royale - Herb Alpert 30 85


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  • MrTibbs
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    Yeah setg you are right, that stirred my memory on what I read, Disc stopped the practise of placing albums in the singles chart when they started their album chart.

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  • setg1
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    Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
    I seem to remember reading somewhere that Disc stopped albums in their singles chart around the end of 1966 and only NME continued beyond that.
    The last album I can find charting in Disc was "Rubber Soul" at #26 on January 8, 1966. Disc started publishing a separate album chart on April 23 the same year – maybe that's when LPs stopped being eligible for the singles chart? A sensible decision, I wonder why NME didn't do the same...

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  • MrTibbs
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    I seem to remember reading somewhere that Disc stopped albums in their singles chart around the end of 1966 and only NME continued beyond that.

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  • Splodj
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    I think Radio London put 'A Day In The Life' at number one because it put into sharp contrast their policy and that of the BBC who had banned it.

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  • Graham76man
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    Even before Sgt Pepper came out artists were fighting tooth and nail to record the songs off the album. Bernard Cribbins even did When I'm 64.
    Others doing songs from it: The Young Idea, David and Jonathan, Joe Brown, Kenny Ball.
    Of course if downloads had been around then, the tracks from it would have been all over the top 40! But of course it was many years later when any Beatles tracks from it were issued as a single.

    The fact that it's in any of the singles charts shows you how sloppy some of the dealers filled in their returns. Had they all been like that then it would have been number one on NME. Since the album in 200 shops would have outsold any singles. I don't think NME placed it into the singles chart. Unlike Radio London, who placed it at number one, but then all the records were placed into it on that top 40.

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  • Splodj
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    Looks like Disc are no longer including LPs, or surely Sgt Pepper would be in their 30.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 10th 1967. Enjoy !

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 10th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    3 1 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    1 2 Silence Is Golden - The Tremeloes 2 2 3 2 2 18165
    2 3 Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks 3 4 2 3 3 17830
    6 4 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 4 3 4 4 4 17345
    4 5 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 5 5 5 5 7 16340
    5 6 Then I Kissed Her - The Beach Boys 6 6 7 6 5 15710
    8 7 The Happening - The Supremes 7 7 6 7 6 15575
    7 8 The Wind Cries Mary - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 8 8 8 8 8 14605
    13 9 Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley 9 9 10 11 9 13520
    15 10 Finchley Central - The New Vaudeville Band 10 10 9 10 11 13500
    9 11 Pictures Of Lily - The Who 11 10 11 9 10 13185
    10 12 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 12 12 12 14 13 11780
    12 13 Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 15 14 19 12 12 9915
    NEW 14 Carrie Anne - The Hollies 14 13 17 17 17 9690
    18 15 Roses Of Picardy - Vince Hill 13 18 15 13 16 9675
    28 16 Okay - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 16 15 20 21 14 8395
    19 17 The First Cut Is The Deepest - P.P. Arnold 17 22 16 15 19 8170
    14 18 Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 18 23 14 20 18 8055
    11 19 The Boat That I Row - Lulu 19 26 13 16 22 7765
    16 20 Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings - Tom Jones 20 24 18 19 20 6785
    21 21 If I Were A Rich Man - Topol 21 24 21 18 21 6050
    26 22 Groovin' - The Young Rascals 22 15 27 23 23 5680
    27 23 Give Me Time - Dusty Springfield 23 17 26 22 24 5545
    NEW 24 Paper Sun - Traffic 25 19 23 30 26 4925
    17 25 New York Mining Disaster 1941 - The Bee Gees 24 30 22 24 15 4510
    29 26 Don't Sleep In The Subway - Petula Clark 26 20 24 27 4350
    22 27 Casino Royale - Herb Alpert 27 27 25 28 28 2855
    NEW 28 Night Of The Long Grass - The Troggs 28 28 30 26 25 1860
    24 29 Walking In The Rain - The Walker Brothers 29 29 29 25 1500
    20 30 Hi Ho Silver Lining - Jeff Beck 30 28 27 1090
    Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (LP) - The Beatles 21 2000
    I Got Rhythm - The Happenings 29 200
    Release Me - Engelbert Humperdinck 29 170
    Purple Haze - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 30 85

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  • Splodj
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    Also, by this time she'd had an incredible 39 hits in France including five number ones.

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  • MrTibbs
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    For my money Pet Clark and Dusty Springfield were the best of the best of the sixties female hitmakers, but whilst saying that I'm also not demeaning some of the excellent others of the period who gave me so much listening pleasure.
    Pet and Dusty in the mid sixties both recorded some mini masterpieces of pop perfection that I still love today.

    Across the water though, and it may come as a surprise to some, Pet was the biggest by far of all our sixties girls, scoring two #1's in 65 and 66 and racking up a further 13 Top Forty hits on top of those by the end of the sixties.
    By contrast Dusty had 10, Cilla had 1, Lulu had 3, but Sandie didn't have any, the closest she came was #42.

    In America Pet was titled 'The First Lady Of The British Invasion' and by the chart statistics above she most certainly was.

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  • Splodj
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    Pet Clark recorded 3 versions but there was a mix-up in distribution. The UK got 'Don't Sleep In The Subway', France got 'Don't Sleep In The Underground' and the USA got 'Ne Dormez Pas Dans Le Metro'.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    2 excellent new entries this week from Pet Clark and The Young Rascals, the 'summer of love' and the era of flower power begins to bloom. 9 differences in chart positions between the BBC and Ultimate Chart this week mainly in the lower chart region.

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 3rd 1967. Enjoy !

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 3rd 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Silence Is Golden - The Tremeloes 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 Waterloo Sunset - The Kinks 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    13 3 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 3 3 3 3 4 17695
    3 4 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 4 4 4 4 3 17230
    4 5 Then I Kissed Her - The Beach Boys 5 5 5 5 5 16510
    21 6 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 6 6 7 6 7 15540
    8 7 The Wind Cries Mary - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 7 8 6 8 6 15275
    12 8 The Happening - The Supremes 8 7 9 7 8 14655
    6 9 Pictures Of Lily - The Who 9 9 8 9 9 14220
    5 10 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 10 10 10 10 11 13250
    7 11 The Boat That I Row - Lulu 12 13 11 13 14 11845
    9 12 Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 11 11 15 11 10 11785
    14 13 Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley 13 12 13 14 13 11530
    10 14 Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 14 15 12 16 12 11065
    18 15 Finchley Central - The New Vaudeville Band 15 16 14 12 16 10425
    11 16 Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings - Tom Jones 16 14 16 15 17 9940
    15 17 New York Mining Disaster 1941 - The Bee Gees 17 17 19 17 15 8560
    20 18 Roses Of Picardy - Vince Hill 18 19 18 19 18 7955
    23 19 The First Cut Is The Deepest - P. P. Arnold 19 18 21 18 22 7165
    16 20 Hi Ho Silver Lining - Jeff Beck 20 17 20 19 5620
    25 21 If I Were A Rich Man - Topol 21 22 20 26 25 5560
    22 22 Casino Royale - Herb Alpert 25 21 24 28 27 4390
    17 23 A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - The Monkees 22 29 22 24 21 4200
    26 24 Walking In The Rain - The Walker Brothers 24 23 25 25 26 4125
    19 25 Purple Haze - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 23 23 23 20 3735
    NEW 26 Groovin' - The Young Rascals 26 20 21 3200
    NEW 27 Give Me Time - Dusty Springfield 29 26 26 27 2650
    NEW 28 Okay - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 27 30 22 24 1745
    NEW 29 Don't Sleep In The Subway - Petula Clark 25 29 1700
    27 30 Release Me - Engelbert Humperdinck 28 27 23 1680
    Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (LP) - The Beatles 26 1000
    Night Of The Long Grass - The Troggs 30 24 29 1600
    Birds And Bees - Warm Sounds 28 29 920
    I Got Rhythm - The Happenings 28 30 700
    I Can Hear The Grass Grow - The Move 30 28 455
    Ha ! Ha ! Said The Clown - Manfred Mann 30 85

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