That was the Bee Gees second single. The first "Spicks and Specks" only reached reached 66 in March of 1967 so would not have made the top 30.
Lulu's track was of course very popular with the Pirate Radio stations due to the boat reference.
Topol - If I was A Rich Man, was in entirely due to the West End production of the show Fiddler On The Roof that year. It first hit the stage in the USA in 1964, so it took some time to get a production in the UK. I suspect there was a bias still in the charts towards London shops, which might have accounted for it's place in these charts, but it's a catchy tune and so would sell anyway. Most people these days will know it from the film of the same name. But the film wasn't released until 1971 so had no effect here.
There's no footage of Frank and Nancy actually singing Somethin' Stupid. One of the few late 60's number one not to have film of the performance. Some people have cobbled together on YouTube footage of them singing together and put the track over it, but it's not them actually singing the song!
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Pink Floyd made their debut a few weeks ago and now it's the turn of the Bee Gees.
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Greetings Pop Pickers !
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending May 6th 1967. Enjoy !
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 6th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 1 1 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 1 1 1 1 1 19050 2 2 Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 2 2 2 2 2 18415 3 3 A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - The Monkees 3 3 5 3 4 17195 5 4 Purple Haze - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 4 5 4 4 3 17030 4 5 Ha ! Ha ! Said The Clown - Manfred Mann 5 6 3 5 7 16640 11 6 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 6 4 6 6 6 16275 10 7 I Can Hear The Grass Grow - The Move 7 7 9 7 5 14910 12 8 Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings - Tom Jones 8 8 8 8 9 14520 9 9 Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 9 9 7 9 13 14130 16 10 The Boat That I Row - Lulu 10 10 10 10 10 13335 7 11 I'm Gonna Get Me A Gun - Cat Stevens 11 11 11 14 8 12655 6 12 Release Me - Engelbert Humperdinck 12 14 13 11 11 11600 26 13 Silence Is Golden - The Tremeloes 13 13 14 13 15 11010 14 14 Happy Together - The Turtles 15 16 12 15 14 10795 24 15 Pictures Of Lily - The Who 14 12 16 12 16 10725 8 16 Bernadette - The Four Tops 16 15 15 16 12 10315 20 17 Hi Ho Silver Lining - Jeff Beck 17 17 17 19 17 8690 15 18 It's All Over - Cliff Richard 18 18 18 21 18 7955 13 19 This Is My Song - Harry Secombe 19 19 19 18 20 7635 21 20 Knock On Wood - Eddie Floyd 20 23 21 17 19 6520 22 21 Jimmy Mack - Martha and The Vandellas 21 24 20 20 21 6100 17 22 I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman - Whistling Jack Smith 22 21 22 24 23 5630 25 23 Maroc 7 / Bombay Duck - The Shadows 23 25 23 26 24 4295 NEW 24 Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley 24 20 23 29 3170 19 25 Because I Love You - Georgie Fame 25= 28 25 25 26 3125 18 26 Simon Smith And His Amazing Dancing Bear - The Alan Price Set 25= 30 24 28 22 3015 NEW 27 New York Mining Disaster 1941 - The Bee Gees 27 26 22 27 2240 30 28 Gonna Give Her All The Love I've Got - Jimmy Ruffin 29 22 30 1885 23 29 Edelweiss - Vince Hill 28 26 25 1760 NEW 30 If I Were A Rich Man - Topol 30 27 27 1400 Birds And Bees - Warm Sounds 27 800 Al Capone - Prince Buster 28 750 Get Me To The World On Time - The Electric Prunes 28 600 Arnold Layne - Pink Floyd 30 28 505 Oh How I Miss You - The Bachelors 29 500 Then I Kissed Her - The Beach Boys 29 200 Casino Royale - Herb Alpert 30 100
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Greetings Pop Pickers !
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending April 29th 1967. Enjoy !
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 29th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 1 1 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 1 1 1 1 1 19050 2 2 Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 2 2 2 2 2 18415 3 3 A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - The Monkees 3 3 3 3 3 17780 4 4 Ha ! Ha ! Said The Clown - Manfred Mann 4 4 4 4 4 17145 7 5 Purple Haze - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 5 5 5 6 5 16410 5 6 Release Me - Engelbert Humperdinck 6 6 7 5 8 15555 10 7 I'm Gonna Get Me A Gun - Cat Stevens 7 8 6 7 6 15375 9 8 Bernadette - The Four Tops 8 7 10 8 10 14135 12 9 Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 10 9 8 10 11 13950 17 10 I Can Hear The Grass Grow - The Move 9 11 9 9 7 13740 18 11 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 11 10 12 11 9 12820 19 12 Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings - Tom Jones 12 13 11 12 13 12030 6 13 This Is My Song - Harry Secombe 14 12 15 13 14 11045 14 14 Happy Together - The Turtles 13 14 14 14 12 10965 8 15 It's All Over - Cliff Richard 15 16 13 15 15 10460 28 16 The Boat That I Row - Lulu 16 15 16 16 16 9725 13 17 I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman - Whistling Jack Smith 17 17 18 18 17 8540 11 18 Simon Smith And His Amazing Dancing Bear - The Alan Price Set 18 18 19 21 18 7705 15 19 Because I Love You - Georgie Fame 19 19 20 17 21 7400 24 20 Hi Ho Silver Lining - Jeff Beck 20 23 17 19 24 6895 22 21 Knock On Wood - Eddie Floyd 21 21 23 22 19 5920 23 22 Jimmy Mack - Martha and The Vandellas 22 22 22 20 22 5915 16 23 Edelweiss - Vince Hill 23 29 21 23 20 4635 NEW 24 Pictures Of Lily - The Who 25 19 28 24 3850 NEW 25 Maroc 7 / Bombay Duck - The Shadows 24 25 25 25 26 3725 NEW 26 Silence Is Golden - The Tremeloes 26 24 26 28 29 3120 26 27 Arnold Layne - Pink Floyd 27 24 23 2430 21 28 Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever - The Beatles 29 27 26 1500 30 29 Al Capone - Prince Buster 28 28 30 25 1360 NEW 30 Gonna Give Her All The Love I've Got - Jimmy Ruffin 30 27 27 1200 Sweet Soul Music - Arthur Conley 26 1000 Georgy Girl - The Seekers 30 30 27 640 Touch Me, Touch Me - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick
and Tich29 500 Oh How I Miss You - The Bachelors 29 30 285 Memories Are Made Of This - Val Doonican 28 255
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As I predicted Jeff Beck enters all the top 30 without selling a single copy. Only after these charts were published did Beck start to sell, but only at 79. The other version by The Attack was the one in the actual chart. But as that video I posted in a previous post shows when somebody like Don Arden wanted a record in the chart it was. He was not the only one Joe Meek was well into chart hyping. Meek bought 10 to 20 in each shop and they would chart, he would then tell the DJ's it's charted and they would do the rest to sell the record. 100 copies would get you up the chart. At least 60 shops were in London.
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Yeah there was no consistency in their application of tie breakers.
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Strange how the BBC did not break a tie for number one using the 'trend' method, but did for other positions.
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Greetings Pop Pickers !
A joint #1 on the BBC chart.
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending April 22nd 1967. Enjoy !
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 22nd 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 2 1 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 1= 1 1 2 2 18865 1 2 Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 1= 2 2 1 1 18600 3 3 A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - The Monkees 3 3 3 3 3 17780 5 4 Ha ! Ha ! Said The Clown - Manfred Mann 4 4 4 4 4 17145 4 5 Release Me - Engelbert Humperdinck 5 5 6 5 5 16260 6 6 This Is My Song - Harry Secombe 6 6 7 6 7 15540 10 7 Purple Haze - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 7 7 8 7 6 15075 8 8 It's All Over - Cliff Richard 8 9 5 9 9 14970 12 9 Bernadette - The Four Tops 9 8 11 8 8 13855 16 10 I'm Gonna Get Me A Gun - Cat Stevens 10 11 9 11 10 13285 7 11 Simon Smith And His Amazing Dancing Bear - The Alan Price Set 11 10 10 12 11 13050 20 12 Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 12 13 12 10 14 11895 9 13 I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman - Whistling Jack Smith 13 12 13 15 13 11430 17 14 Happy Together - The Turtles 14 17 14 13 12 10465 18 15 Because I Love You - Georgie Fame 15 14 18 14 15 9710 11 16 Edelweiss - Vince Hill 16 16 15 16 17 9690 29 17 I Can Hear The Grass Grow - The Move 17 15 17 18 16 9275 26 18 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 18 18 16 17 18 8855 NEW 19 Funny Familiar Forgotten Feelings - Tom Jones 19 19 20 19 24 6945 13 20 Georgy Girl - The Seekers 22 21 21 26 22 5765 14 21 Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever - The Beatles 21 26 19 21 23 5680 23 22 Knock On Wood - Eddie Floyd 20 24 22 22 19 5570 30 23 Jimmy Mack - Martha and The Vandellas 23= 20 26 24 26 4575 NEW 24 Hi Ho Silver Lining - Jeff Beck 23= 24 24 20 28 4505 15 25 This Is My Song - Petula Clark 26 29 23 23 27 3540 22 26 Arnold Layne - Pink Floyd 25 25 27 20 2835 19 27 Memories Are Made Of This - Val Doonican 27 26 27 28 25 2810 NEW 28 The Boat That I Row - Lulu 29 22 25 2400 21 29 Touch Me, Touch Me - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 28 28 28 30 21 2300 25 30 Al Capone - Prince Buster 30 23 30 29 29 2220 There's A Kind Of Hush - Herman's Hermits 29 500 Maroc 7 - The Shadows 30 200 You Got What It Takes - The Dave Clark Five 30 85
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Greetings Pop Pickers !
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending April 15th 1967. Enjoy !
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 15th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 2 1 Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 1 1 1 1 1 19050 4 2 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 2 2 2 2 3 18330 11 3 A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - The Monkees 4 4 3 4 4 17395 1 4 Release Me - Engelbert Humperdinck 3 3 5 3 2 17365 14 5 Ha ! Ha! Said The Clown - Manfred Mann 6 6 4 6 6 16375 3 6 This Is My Song - Harry Secombe 5 5 6 5 5 16260 5 7 Simon Smith and His Amazing Dancing Bear - The Alan Price Set 7 7 8 8 7 14890 8 8 It's All Over - Cliff Richard 8= 8 7 9 9 14670 6 9 I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman - Whistling Jack Smith 8= 9 9 7 8 14255 18 10 Purple Haze - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 10 11 10 10 11 13050 7 11 Edelweiss - Vince Hill 11 10 11 11 10 12985 17 12 Bernadette - The Four Tops 12 12 12 12 13 11980 13 13 Georgy Girl - The Seekers 14 15 13 18 14 10445 10 14 Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever - The Beatles 13 16 15 13 12 10415 9 15 This Is My Song - Petula Clark 15 14 17 14 18 9705 30 16 I'm Gonna Get Me A Gun - Cat Stevens 16 13 16 16 21 9700 25 17 Happy Together - The Turtles 17 19 14 15 19 9270 20 18 Because I Love You - Georgie Fame 18 17 18 19 15 8610 12 19 Memories Are Made Of This - Val Doonican 19 21 19 17 17 7590 27 20 Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 20= 18 20 21 25 6860 19 21 Touch Me, Touch Me - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 20= 20 22 20 16 6825 28 22 Arnold Layne - Pink Floyd 23 24 21 22 26 5225 23 23 Knock On Wood - Eddie Floyd 22 24 24 23 20 4885 15 24 There's A Kind Of Hush - Herman's Hermits 24 30 23 24 23 3580 22 25 Al Capone - Prince Buster 25 27 28 27 22 2715 NEW 26 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas And Papas 29 22 30 29 2250 21 27 Love Is Here And Now You're Gone - The Supremes 27 25 30 24 2195 16 28 On A Carousel - The Hollies 26 26 26 27 2090 NEW 29 I Can Hear The Grass Grow - The Move 28 23 28 30 1985 NEW 30 Jimmy Mack - Martha and The Vandellas 30 29 29 25 1500 Give It To Me - The Troggs 27 29 1170 Hi Ho Silver Lining - Jeff Beck 26 1000 You Got What It Takes - The Dave Clark Five 28 28 855
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I think Leader of The Pack fell into the "death disc" thing, that was popular in the early 60's - Johnny Remember Me etc. It was the Church of England that told the BBC that these discs shouldn't be played. So they didn't.
Back then I think Fluff only had to play the top ten in full. So as the record probably didn't make the top ten on first release (well it didn't in RR) so I guess the BBC chart probably didn't have it in. Then he didn't have to play it! Hence the "pick" thing.
Having a top ten record was the only way you could get a record played for sure on the BBC. Though you might think that sending in a request for record on the "request shows" would also get the record played. But that was never the case. The BBC simply selected the records it wanted to play, then trawled through the sack of requests for the same records! Of course there were plenty.
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TOTP could get away with playing things as it was on at 7.30, when young kids were in bed, back then. Radio however was much stricter.
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That's a possible candidate.
The only way to discover if it was banned would be to find a recording (or track listing) of the 31-Jan-65 POTP to see if it was played as a Top 20 new entry, as it never made the Top 10.
Edit: 'Leader Of The Pack' was featured as the second act on the 4-Feb-65 edition of Top Of The Pops.
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I think, if I remember correctly, that the BBC didn't play Leader Of The Pack by The Shangri-Las back on release in 1965 as it was considered to be in poor taste but I can't remember if POTP played it or not back then.
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Up until 1969, when the Birkin / Gainsbourg and Max Romeo songs charted, I cannot recall any record being banned from the chart section on POTP.
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On the record, the intro says, 'this is the story of the seven drunken nights but we're only allowed to sing five of them' so we never get to hear what the remaining two were.
But if you listen to the full live version on you tube you can hear all seven of them
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The last two 'drunken' nights which were omitted are very tame by today's standard.
I always thought they just didn't play the records when it came to the chart show. Hence the title "Pick of the Pops" this insured that "banned" subjects didn't get played and avoided the USA top 40 style of show, which was really looked down on. Fluff could thus "pick" what could be played!
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Greetings Pop Pickers !
The last two 'drunken' nights which were omitted are very tame by today's standard.
Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending April 8th 1967. Enjoy !
The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 8th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored 1 1 Release Me - Engelbert Humperdinck 1 1 2 3 1 18600 7 2 Somethin' Stupid - Frank and Nancy Sinatra 2 3 1 2 2 18465 2 3 This Is My Song - Harry Secombe 3 2 5 1 3 17680 6 4 Puppet On A String - Sandie Shaw 4 4 3 4 4 17395 4 5 Simon Smith And His Amazing Dancing Bear - The Alan Price Set 5 5 4 6 5 16660 5 6 I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman - Whistling Jack Smith 6 7 6 5 6 15775 3 7 Edelweiss - Vince Hill 8 6 7 7 7 15440 14 8 It's All Over - Cliff Richard 7 8 8 8 11 14350 8 9 This Is My Song - Petula Clark 9 10 10 9 9 13520 9 10 Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever - The Beatles 10 12 11 11 8 12755 NEW 11 A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - The Monkees 11 8 14 10 14 12395 11 12 Memories Are Made Of This - Val Doonican 12 14 9 13 12 12315 10 13 Georgy Girl - The Seekers 13 13 12 14 10 11835 NEW 14 Ha ! Ha ! Said The Clown - Manfred Mann 14 11 13 12 17 11590 13 15 There's A Kind Of Hush - Herman's Hermits 15 15 18 19 15 9010 12 16 On A Carousel - The Hollies 16 17 17 18 16 8875 30 17 Bernadette - The Four Tops 18 16 19 16 25 8010 29 18 Purple Haze - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 19= 23 15 17 22 7765 21 19 Touch Me, Touch Me - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 17 18 21 21 13 7630 27 20 Because I Love You - Georgie Fame 19= 19 20 15 23 7430 17 21 Love Is Here And Now You're Gone - The Supremes 21 27 16 20 20 6585 22 22 Al Capone - Prince Buster 22 24 25 22 18 4905 24 23 Knock On Wood - Eddie Floyd 24 26 26 24 21 3800 15 24 Detroit City - Tom Jones 23 21 30 26 19 3770 NEW 25 Happy Together - The Turtles 25 22 27 25 27 3740 18 26 Give It To Me - The Troggs 26 27 24 30 24 3245 NEW 27 Seven Drunken Nights - The Dubliners 27 25 28 23 2750 25 28 Arnold Layne - Pink Floyd 29 22 27 2650 19 29 I'm A Believer - The Monkees 28 20 28 2455 NEW 30 I'm Gonna Get Me A Gun - Cat Stevens 23 2000 I'll Try Anything - Dusty Springfield 30 29 29 28 26 1625 You Got What It Takes - The Dave Clark Five 30 29 370 Jimmy Mack - Martha and The Vandellas 29 200 I Can't Make It - The Small Faces 30 85
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I'm currently working on 1968 so it won't be long now till I delve back to give you 60 -63.
Given I'm way ahead do you guys still want just one chart a day or some days do you want a couple of charts ?
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Brain thanks for noticing that. I have amended those to keep the chart 100% accurate. For Dusty I must have tapped a 1 instead of 2.
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I don't think the BBC would have considered such rules. It seems they saw the charts as equal, it was only tied number ones that caused a problem for TOTP. They had to play the number one and they couldn't have loads of best sellers!
My suggestion was that you can use a different system to straighten out charts, not the merits of such charts or the faults of them.
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I have found points based best selling "year" charts to be useless. Some records sell huge amounts but don't even get top ten on the weekly chart and number ones on sales based charts can be found outside the top 100 at the end of the year.
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I noticed a couple of typos. In the 11th of March chart, you have two no. 15's for the last week positions. Dusty Springfield at 19 'this week' was at 25 last week.
In the 18th of March chart, The Casinos were a re-entry at no.26 and not a new entry.
It's interesting how variable the points required to be in the top 30 are. One week you had three songs in the breakers on 1000 points and the following week 1000 points were enough to be at the no.29 position. I guess this isn't really that surprising as we know that the number of sales required to appear in the current charts are variable from week to week.
A year-end chart based on the points received during the year could be worthwhile - though in all likelihood it will be similar to an inverse points one - though 'weaker' no.1s (i.e. those that weren't no.1 in all charts at the same time) may be downplayed slightly.... Of course this does then raise the question of what you count as the year as the chart is always a reflection of the previous week and not the dated week... Or do you adopt a Billboard-type scenario where you begin/end at the start of December -ostensibly for publication reasons - though also to not underplay the importance of the Christmas weeks (traditionally a time of big sales).
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