The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[Splodj]

If shunting all Disc records down one place, couldn't Sheb Wooley be at 21?

[kingofskiffle]

The following weeks chart has the note: Editor's Note: Buddy Holly's "Rave On" was accidentally omitted last week. He was sharing No. 8 spot.

The chart then shows the original number 9 as falling form 9 to 15, so they have basically just made 2 number 8's, and kept the rest the same.

[Woz1234]

I'll take there wasn't a BBC Chart on 9th August 1958 since the BBC column is blank?

[MrTibbs]

I'll take there wasn't a BBC Chart on 9th August 1958 since the BBC column is blank?

Woz my printed out copy of the chart has the BBC positions included as I printed this after entering the BBC positions. I suspect I did not save the spreadsheet chart again afterwards thus losing them. Apologies, will fix now.

[Splodj]

so they have basically just made 2 number 8's, and kept the rest the same.

But surely this is wrong, the same mistake that NME made in the early weeks, and needs correcting - particularly when being fed into a composite chart.

[MrTibbs]

I'll take there wasn't a BBC Chart on 9th August 1958 since the BBC column is blank?

Thanks for noticing that Woz and please find the chart for 9th August now re-posted with the BBC positions added.

[MrTibbs]

But surely this is wrong, the same mistake that NME made in the early weeks, and needs correcting - particularly when being fed into a composite chart.

Yeah, I had to make a best interest decision here, go with Lonnie's DISC mentioned chart solution with two records at #8 then 9 and so on or accept that all records below #8 had to drop one place.

I decided DISC's solution was unfair to all other three charts, as if any of those have two records tying a position then the next chart number is omitted, ie, 8, 8, and so then 10. and therefore this called for a bona fide correction to amend the error in DISC moving all records below #8 dropping a place in keeping with all other chart patterns.

I also did not include the pushed out Purple People Eater because if the chart did not contain the error when originally published then Purple would have dropped out anyway so could not be considered for a placement.

[braindeadpj]

This of course makes the BBC chart wrong also as it would have been calculated using the original Disc chart. Buddy Holly would also be at 8 on the revised BBC chart with The Platters at 9 and Pat Boone at 10.

[Splodj]

this called for a bona fide correction

... to be consistent with their normal modus operandi!

[MrTibbs]

This of course makes the BBC chart wrong also as it would have been calculated using the original Disc chart. Buddy Holly would also be at 8 on the revised BBC chart with The Platters at 9 and Pat Boone at 10.

Yeah David, the BBC chart was based on the original chart with the error and was never subsequently corrected. Yet another example that the BBC didn't take their chart all that seriously. Mistakes in later years suffered the same fate.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 23rd 1958

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 23rd 1958								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					65	25	40	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
2	1	When - The Kalin Twins					1	1	2	1	1	5675
1	2	All I Have To Do Is Dream / Claudette - The Everly Brothers					2	2	1	2	2	5535
4	3	Return To Me - Dean Martin					3	3	3	3	3	5320
3	4	Hard Headed Woman - Elvis Presley					4	4	4	5	5	5030
5	5	Endless Sleep - Marty Wilde					5	5	5	6	4	4960
6	6	Tulips From Amsterdam / You Need Hands - Max Bygraves					6	6	7	4	6	4805
7	7	Big Man - The Four Preps					7=	7	8	7	7	4535
8	8	Rave On - Buddy Holly					7=	7	6	8	8	4485
14	9	Splish Splash - Charlie Drake					9	10	9	10	9	4075
11	10	Patricia - Perez Prado					10	9	15	9	11	3910
22	11	Poor Little Fool - Ricky Nelson					11=	12	11	12	12	3635
13	12	Think It Over - The Crickets					11=	11	10	11	15	3585
19	13	Yakkety Yak - The Coasters					13	16	12	13	10	3430
10	14	Sugar Moon - Pat Boone					15	13	18	14	13	3255
9	15	Twilight Time - The Platters					14	14	13	15	14	3215
12	16	On The Street Where You Live - Vic Damone					17	18	16	19	18	2480
20	17	Splish Splash - Bobby Darin					19	23	19	20	16	2160
17	18	Who's Sorry Now - Connie Francis					16	17	14	16		1935
NEW	19	Fever - Peggy Lee					18	15			17	1880
NEW	20	Little Bernadette - Harry Belafonte						20		17		1275
NEW	21	Early In The Morning - Buddy Holly					20		17		19	1070
16	22	I'm Sorry I Made You Cry - Connie Francis						26			20	985
NEW	23	Stupid Cupid / Carolina Moon - Connie Francis						19				780
21	24	Trudie - Joe 'Mr Piano' Henderson						21				650
18	25	The Only Man On The Island - Tommy Steele						22				585
23	26	I Know Where I'm Going - George Hamilton IV						30		18		585
15	27	Sally Don't You Grieve / Betty Betty Betty - Lonnie Donegan						24				455
NEW	28	Everybody Loves A Lover - Doris Day						25				390
24	29	Torero - Julius La Rosa						26				325
NEW	30	Secretly - Jimmie Rodgers							20			275
		Little Train / Gotta Have Rain - Max Bygraves						28				195
25		A Very Precious Love - Doris Day						28				195
26		On The Street Where You Live - David Whitfield
27		The Right To Love - David Whitfield
28		The Only Man On The Island - Vic Damone
29		Wonderful Things - Frankie Vaughan
30		Jacqueline - Bobby Helms

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 30th 1958

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 30th 1958								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					65	25	40	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	When - The Kalin Twins					1	1	1	1	1	5700
2	2	All I Have To Do Is Dream / Claudette - The Everly Brothers					2	2	2	2	2	5510
3	3	Return To Me - Dean Martin					3	3	3	3	3	5320
5	4	Endless Sleep - Marty Wilde					4	4	4	4	4	5130
6	5	Tulips From Amsterdam / You Need Hands - Max Bygraves					5	5	5	5	7	4820
4	6	Hard Headed Woman - Elvis Presley					6	7	6	7	5	4705
23	7	Stupid Cupid / Carolina Moon - Connie Francis					7	6	8	11	6	4500
10	8	Patricia - Perez Prado					8=	9	11	6	9	4250
8	9	Rave On - Buddy Holly					8=	10	7	10	8	4185
9	10	Splish Splash - Charlie Drake					10	11	9	8	13	3850
19	11	Fever - Peggy Lee					12	8	14	13	12	3780
11	12	Poor Little Fool - Ricky Nelson					11	13	10	9	11	3775
7	13	Big Man - The Four Preps					13	12	13	12	14	3465
13	14	Yakkety Yak - The Coasters					14	17	12	14	10	3325
12	15	Think It Over - The Crickets					16	15	16	15	20	2715
20	16	Little Bernadette - Harry Belafonte					17=	16	18	16	18	2680
NEW	17	Volare - Dean Martin					17=	14	17		16	2355
14	18	Sugar Moon - Pat Boone					20	18		18	19	2085
17	19	Splish Splash - Bobby Darin					15	19	19		15	2040
21	20	Early In The Morning - Buddy Holly					19	20	15		17	1955
18	21	Who's Sorry Now - Connie Francis						22	20	20		1300
16	22	On The Street Where You Live - Vic Damone						23		19		1000
15	23	Twilight Time - The Platters						27		17		820
22	24	I'm Sorry I Made You Cry - Connie Francis						21				650
25	25	The Only Man On The Island - Tommy Steele						23				520
29	26	Torero - Julius La Rosa						25				390
24	27	Trudie - Joe 'Mr Piano' Henderson						26				325
28	28	Everybody Loves A Lover - Doris Day						27				260
NEW	29	Little Train / Gotta Have Rain - Max Bygraves						29				130
NEW	30	If Dreams Came True - Pat Boone						30				65
26		I Know Where I'm Going - George Hamilton IV
27		Sally Don't You Grieve / Betty Betty Betty - Lonnie Donegan
30		Secretly - Jimmie Rodgers

[Splodj]

Bygraves nudging back up!

[MrTibbs]

Bygraves nudging back up!

It's time those tulips wilted !

[kingofskiffle]

It's time those tulips wilted !

Tulips are supposed to stop blooming in May so he has clearly outlived the growing season....

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 6th 1958

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 6th 1958								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					65	25	40	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	When - The Kalin Twins					1	1	1	1	1	5700
3	2	Return To Me - Dean Martin					2	2	3	3	2	5445
2	3	All I Have To Do Is Dream / Claudette - The Everly Brothers					3	3	2	2	4	5325
7	4	Stupid Cupid / Carolina Moon - Connie Francis					4	4	4	6	3	5110
4	5	Endless Sleep - Marty Wilde					5	6	5	5	5	4875
11	6	Fever - Peggy Lee					6	7	7	8	6	4580
17	7	Volare - Dean Martin					8=	5	8	12	7	4465
12	8	Poor Little Fool - Ricky Nelson					7	9	9	4	8	4440
10	9	Splish Splash - Charlie Drake					8=	10	6	7	9	4270
8	10	Patricia - Perez Prado					10	8	12	10	10	4070
6	11	Hard Headed Woman - Elvis Presley					11	11	10	13	13	3625
14	12	Yakkety Yak - The Coasters					12	12	11	14	11	3615
5	13	Tulips From Amsterdam / You Need Hands - Max Bygraves					13	14	14	9	12	3550
9	14	Rave On - Buddy Holly					14	13	13	11	14	3440
20	15	Early In The Morning - Buddy Holly					15	17	18	17	15	2755
16	16	Little Bernadette - Harry Belafonte					16=	16	19	16	19	2595
13	17	Big Man - The Four Preps					18=	18	16	20	17	2500
NEW	18	Volare - Domenico Modugno					16=	15		18	16	2460
15	19	Think It Over - The Crickets					18=	23	15	15	20	2220
19	20	Splish Splash - Bobby Darin						28	20		18	1250
NEW	21	Girl Of My Dreams - Tony Brent					20	20	17			1065
30	22	If Dreams Came True - Pat Boone						26		19		805
27	23	Trudie - Joe 'Mr Piano' Henderson						19				780
21	24	Who's Sorry Now - Connie Francis						21				650
18	25	Sugar Moon - Pat Boone						22				585
NEW	26	Moon Talk - Perry Como						24				455
NEW	27	Mad Passionate Love - Bernard Bresslaw						25				390
NEW	28	Rebel Rouser - Duane Eddy						26				325
25	29	The Only Man On The Island - Tommy Steele						29				130
23	30	Twilight Time - The Platters						30				65
22		On The Street Where You Live - Vic Damone
24		I'm Sorry I Made You Cry - Connie Francis
26		Torero - Julius La Rosa
28		Everybody Loves A Lover - Doris Day
29		Little Train / Gotta Have Rain - Max Bygraves

[Splodj]

It was in autumn 1958 that 'Jungle Rock' by Hank Mizell was first released and, reportedly, sold 120 copies.

[MrTibbs]

I'll be back in a week to post the remainder of the UAC from 58/59 guys when I return from holiday but will be looking in from time to time while away to keep in touch.

[kjell]

Enjoy your holiday Brian, it’s well deserved.

[Robbie]

Have fun Brian! Enjoy your holiday. I was in New York last week - the New York in North Tyneside, that is. It's just north of Wallsend and is only 6 miles from Newcastle. It's slightly smaller than the one in the US too, only 1,000 people live there...

[braindeadpj]

My apologies for not noticing earlier, but in the 9th August chart, George Hamilton IV is also a re-entry as it was at 29 on the 19th July (interestingly Valerie entered at 30 that week too)!

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

I'm back from 'The Big Apple' jet lagged, but keen to get the show back on the road again.

PS, I've amended that re-entry David mentioned above.

So, here is the return of the UAC.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 13th 1958

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 13th 1958								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					65	25	40	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	When - The Kalin Twins					1	1	1	1	1	5700
4	2	Stupid Cupid / Carolina Moon - Connie Francis					2	2	2	2	2	5510
2	3	Return To Me - Dean Martin					3	3	3	3	4	5260
7	4	Volare - Dean Martin					4=	4	5	6	3	5085
3	5	All I Have To Do Is Dream / Claudette - The Everly Brothers					4=	5	4	4	5	5005
9	6	Splish Splash - Charlie Drake					6	7	7	5	6	4700
5	7	Endless Sleep - Marty Wilde					7	6	6	7	9	4530
8	8	Poor Little Fool - Ricky Nelson					8	8	8	8	7	4430
6	9	Fever - Peggy Lee					9	9	9	9	8	4240
13	10	Tulips From Amsterdam / You Need Hands - Max Bygraves					10	13	12	13	10	3625
11	11	Hard Headed Woman - Elvis Presley					11	14	11	14	11	3485
18	12	Volare - Domenico Modugno					12=	10	13	15	15	3415
10	13	Patricia - Perez Prado					14	11	17	11	16	3350
12	14	Yakkety Yak - The Coasters					12=	14	10	17	12	3330
27	15	Mad Passionate Love - Bernard Bresslaw					15=	12	20	18	13	3110
NEW	16	Bird Dog - The Everly Brothers					15=	16	14	19	14	2900
14	17	Rave On - Buddy Holly					17	17		12	17	2510
28	18	Rebel Rouser - Duane Eddy						19			19	1500
22	19	If Dreams Came True - Pat Boone						25	19		18	1470
20	20	Splish Splash - Bobby Darin						21			20	1310
15	21	Early In The Morning - Buddy Holly					18	24		10		1295
21	22	Girl Of My Dreams - Tony Brent					19	18	16			1220
24	23	Who's Sorry Now - Connie Francis					20	21	15			1050
26	24	Moon Talk - Perry Como						25		16		990
16	25	Little Bernadette - Harry Belefonte						20				715
23	26	Trudie - Joe 'Mr Piano' Henderson						23				520
19	27	Think It Over - The Crickets								20		440
17	28	Big Man - The Four Preps							18			325
25	29	Sugar Moon - Pat Boone						27				260
RE	29	Wonderful Things - Frankie Vaughan						27				260
		Move It - Cliff Richard						29				130
		Twilight Time - The Platters						30				65
29		The Only Man On The Island - Tommy Steele

[brian05]

The first entry for Cliff Richard with Move it. It will really move up the chart.

The first of many entries.

[Metalweb]

^

Was 'Move It' the first instance of a hit single originally intended to be a B-side?

Can't think of an earlier example...