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  • MrTibbs
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    Yeah Bob, MM and Disc are normally well aligned but on this occasion MM is actually out of step with all the others, even RR. The averaging process reigns it in to a more realistic No 9 position.

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  • BobPatience
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    What is going on with 'Hey Girl'? Normally MM and Disc are a very agreeable couple, but somehow it is far ahead of the pack in MM, yet it lost 2 positions in Disc.
    Last edited by BobPatience; Sun September 6, 2020, 14:58.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 28th May 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 28th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    6 1 Paint It Black - The Rolling Stones 1 1 1 2 1 18950
    4 2 Wild Thing - The Troggs 2 2 2 1 2 18515
    9 3 Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra 3 3 3 4 3 17680
    1 4 Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann 4 4 4 3 4 17245
    8 5 Sorrow - The Merseys 5 6 5 5 5 16310
    2 6 Sloop John B - The Beach Boys 6 5 7 7 6 15725
    14 7 Monday Monday - The Mamas and Papas 7 7 8 6 8 15005
    5 8 Shotgun Wedding - Roy C 8 8 11 9 7 13840
    10 9 Hey Girl - The Small Faces 10 12 6 11 10 13835
    12 10 Rainy Day Women Nos 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan 9 9 10 8 9 13820
    3 11 Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful 11 10 9 10 11 13500
    17 12 Promises - Ken Dodd 12 11 13 12 12 12015
    7 13 You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield 13 14 12 13 14 11395
    24 14 When A Man Loves A Woman - Percy Sledge 14 13 14 15 15 10810
    11 15 The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters 15 15 15 14 13 10430
    13 16 Bang Bang - Cher 16 16 16 17 16 9425
    16 17 Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel 17 20 18 16 17 8140
    22 18 Come On Home - Wayne Fontana 19 17 21 21 21 7150
    15 19 Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 18 23 19 19 18 6905
    19 20 (You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers 20 28 17 18 19 6420
    NEW 21 I Love Her - Paul and Barry Ryan 21 19 23 22 20 6235
    18 22 Alfie - Cilla Black 22 21 20 20 29 6020
    21 23 How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra 23 25 24 23 22 4515
    20 24 Sound Of Silence/Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors 24 27 22 26 24 4145
    NEW 25 Nothing Comes Easy - Sandie Shaw 25 18 30 27 25 3760
    NEW 26 Can't Live Without You - The Mindbenders 27 22 27 28 28 3355
    29 27 California Dreamin' - The Mamas and Papas 26 24 24 23 2780
    25 28 That's Nice - Neil Christian 28 29 26 25 27 2590
    23 29 I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set 30 25 1500
    30 30 Once - Geneveve 26 1000
    Eight Miles High - The Byrds 28 750
    Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega 29 500
    Once There Was A Time / Not Responsible - Tom Jones 29 26 425
    Highway Code - The Master Singers 30 29 400
    I Feel A Cry Comin' On - Hank Locklin 30 30 185

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  • Splodj
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    Agreed Brian.

    ​​In retrospect the lagging behind of RR (who ironically also used 'trend', but still lagged!) doesn't matter so much, and is not cited as a main reason for its unsuitability as the official chart. If it had got it's positions correct but one week later - who would care?

    But at the time it mattered very much. Anyone who knew about the charts in the 60s regarded RR as the duffer because it was behind the others. So in the absence of weighting (which I agree would have been preferable but think would have been difficult to do at the time) I can understand why the BBC used anti-drag techniques, as their primary consideration was to produce a chart that was suitable for broadcast.

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  • MrTibbs
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    'Trend' was not fair though, it shouldn't matter whether the record was climbing or sliding, both held the same points. BUT that is now the beauty of The Ultimate Averaged system adding a further tier to the averaging criteria by factoring in store returns as this fairly separates records by points rather than by arbitrary chart movement trends.

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  • Graham76man
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    Originally posted by Splodj View Post
    I wonder what criteria NME used for separating the sides. In 1967 they listed separately Nancy Sinatra's 'You Only Live Twice' and 'Jackson'. Yet Discogs says 'Jackson' was the B-side, so was it separated because it was a duet with Lee Hazlewood?
    Technically speaking it would have been a double AA side. The problem was that both sides of the record were popular and I think NME just let the retailers decide which side they listed in the returns. In this case the fault was with the record company. They should have not have put the two tracks on the same record. Both were strong enough to chart separately. On the Real Chart I only list Nancy, but this was for reasons of space. In the Chart Book S there is a footnote to say about the other side. The fact it stopped at 12 to me says a lot. And all down to the fact that the two sides weakened the sales of the record somehow.

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  • Splodj
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    On the BBC charts I've analysed they did tiebreak in a majority of cases. The basis was 'trend '. There was not a consistent rule about when they did or did not tiebreak. But if pressed for a possible explanation regarding 21st May, I would say they did it for 3/4 because the Troggs were gaining fast and Spoonful were falling; but they didn't do it for 11/12 because the Faces and Dylan were going up at about the same speed.

    I take Robin's point about 'trend' being an unfair method for tiebreaking, but I can see a justification for the BBC using it - namely, by the time POTP aired it was over a week since the sales period ended for that chart.

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  • MrTibbs
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    I came across this snippet today posted in asm's Updated Chart History thread away back in March 2014 by our good friend RokinRobin.

    'I personally wish that someone would construct new weekly composite charts for the 60s, all 520 of them, using the 5 major charts as you discuss (NME, MM, Disc, RM, RR), but weight them according to the number of record shops each one sampled. If the BBC had been doing this from the beginning, there wouldn't have been a need to go with the BMRB in Feb 1969, although eventually a national sales chart would had to have come into being'.

    It's taken 6 years Robin but your wish is my command lol.

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  • MrTibbs
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    You are spot on 'brain'. I've noted this and some other occasions also when entering data that the BBC did not always consistently apply their own rules on tied positions. Normally The Troggs and Lovin' Spoonful should have tied by their rules and been equal 3 but for some reason they didn't apply this on this week or it wasn't carefully checked. It's another reason why I revisited compiling an average chart to include correcting many of the errors the BBC made.

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  • braindeadpj
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    The May 21st charts raise some intriguing questions. For the no.3 and 4 the points should be identical for the BBC chart, but they aren't. Initially I thought that perhaps this was a chart where the RR chart wasn't included as that would explain why the Troggs were no.3 (2 no.3s 1 no.4) rather than the Lovin' Spoonful (2 no.4's and a no.3). However if that is so then The Rolling Stones would've been at equal 7 with Dusty and the Merseys at 6, rather than at 6 above Dusty and the Merseys, so the question is how did they decide on the Troggs being at No.3. Is this another example of miscalculation or child bias (assuming the rumors of the daughter doing the calculations is true!).
    Also this week's chart is one of the exceptions to the RR chart being behind as it has the Stones at no.5 (same as NME) while the other 2 charts (MM and Disc) have it lower, despite Disc including preorders...

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  • MrTibbs
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    That's an interesting point. NME seemed to arbitrarily split sides for some records and not others. Interestingly as highlighted above they were still doing it in 1967, yet for some strange reason they did not split Beatles double A sides such as Day Tripper / We Can Work It Out, Yellow Submarine / Eleanor Rigby etc.

    We all know why !!!. Denying the Beatles the No 1 slot by splitting would have caused a massive outcry. So not a fair practise, rules for some and rules for others.

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  • Splodj
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    I wonder what criteria NME used for separating the sides. In 1967 they listed separately Nancy Sinatra's 'You Only Live Twice' and 'Jackson'. Yet Discogs says 'Jackson' was the B-side, so was it separated because it was a duet with Lee Hazlewood?

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 21st May 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 21st 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    3 2 Sloop John B - The Beach Boys 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    2 3 Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful 4 4 3 4 3 17480
    12 4 Wild Thing - The Troggs 3 3 4 3 4 17445
    8 5 Shotgun Wedding - Roy c 5 6 5 5 6 16225
    NEW 6 Paint It Black - The Rolling Stones 6 5 9 8 5 15210
    4 7 You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield 7 8 7 7 7 15040
    15 8 Sorrow - The Merseys 8 9 6 6 9 15020
    NEW 9 Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra 9 7 10 10 12 13765
    23 10 Hey Girl - The Small Faces 11= 13 8 9 15 12910
    5 11 The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters 10 11 11 12 8 12855
    27 12 Rainy Day Woman Nos 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan 11= 10 12 13 10 12535
    6 13 Bang Bang - Cher 13 14 14 11 11 11350
    NEW 14 Monday Monday - The Mamas and Papas 14 12 13 14 17 11190
    7 15 Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 15 16 18 17 13 9180
    11 16 Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel 17 19 16 15 16 9025
    29 17 Promises - Ken Dodd 16 15 19 18 14 8945
    9 18 Alfie - Cilla Black 18 18 15 19 20 8735
    13 19 (You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers 19 20 17 16 19 8220
    10 20 Sound Of Silance/Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors 20 21 20 22 18 6755
    20 21 How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra 21 23 22 20 21 5800
    24 22 Come On Home - Wayne Fontana 22 22 25 21 22 5065
    14 23 I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set 23 26 21 23 29 4470
    NEW 24 When A Man Loves A Woman - Percy Sledge 26 17 28 3100
    19 25 That's Nice - Neil Christian 24 24 25 23 3030
    21 26 Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega 27 23 26 27 2840
    16 27 Somebody Help Me - The Spencer Davis Group 25 28 27 24 25 2810
    18 28 Someday One Day - The Seekers 29 29 26 28 1905
    30 29 California Dreamin' - The Mamas and Papas 28 25 29 26 1825
    NEW 30 Once - Geneveve 24 1400
    I Love Her - Paul and Barry Ryan 30 27 27 30 1285
    Substitute - The Who 28 750
    Elusive Butterfly - Val Doonican 29 30 650
    Frankie And Johnny - Elvis Presley 24 595
    Take It Or Leave It - The Searchers 29 500
    Can't Live Without You - The Mindbenders 29 400
    Confusion - Lee Dorsey 30 100
    Last edited by MrTibbs; Sat September 5, 2020, 09:51.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! (If you haven't guessed already 'Fluff' was my favourite DJ back in the day !)

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 14th May 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 14th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    3 2 Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    6 3 Sloop John B - The Beach Boys 3 3 3 4 3 17680
    2 4 You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield 4 4 4 3 6 17075
    5 5 The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters 5 5 5 6 5 16410
    4 6 Bang Bang - Cher 6 6 6 5 4 16145
    7 7 Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 7 8 7 7 7 15040
    15 8 Shotgun Wedding - Roy C 8 7 9 8 10 14385
    9 9 Alfie - Cilla Black 9 9 8 9 11 14050
    8 10 Sound Of Silence/ Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors 10 10 11 10 8 13255
    11 11 Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel 11 11 10 11 9 13120
    NEW 12 Wild Thing - The Troggs 12 12 16 13 13 10880
    17 13 (You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers 13 15 14 12 15 10710
    13 14 I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set 15 18 12 14 17 10240
    29 15 Sorrow - The Merseys 14 13 17 19 12 9915
    10 16 Somebody Help Me - The Spencer Davis Group 16 14 18 17 16 9325
    12 17 Substitute - The Who 17 21 13 15 18 9205
    14 18 Someday One Day - The Seekers 18 16 15 21 20 8935
    21 19 That's Nice - Neil Christian 19 24 21 16 14 6845
    23 20 How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra 20 22 20 20 19 6670
    20 21 Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega 21 23 19 18 22 6665
    16 22 Elusive Butterfly - Val Doonican 22 19 22 22 21 6400
    NEW 23 Hey Girl - The Small Faces 23 16 24 28 23 5730
    28 24 Come On Home - Wayne Fontana 24 25 26 23 25 3760
    18 25 Make The World Go Away - Eddy Arnold 25 23 26 24 3095
    24 26 Highway Code - Master Singers 27 27 25 24 30 3085
    NEW 27 Rainy Day Women Nos 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan 28= 20 28 2950
    22 28 Frankie And Johnny - Elvis Presley 26 26 27 25 27 2940
    NEW 29 Promises - Ken Dodd 28= 27 30 27 26 1875
    NEW 30 California Dreamin' - The Mamas and Papas 30 29 29 570
    Take It Or Leave It - The Searchers 29 500
    Blue Turns To Grey - Cliff Richard 28 255
    Once - Geneveve 30 200
    Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra 30 200
    The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore - The Walker Brothers 29 200
    Elusive Butterfly - Bob Lind 30 100


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  • MrTibbs
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    It's a really interesting list though, and I believe adding the LP's, EP's, and B sides was probably to make the list all inclusive and comprehensive as to what was played on the show outwith what was on the chart.

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  • Splodj
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    I agree that the LPs, EPs and B-sides do not count as 'misses', but the rest of the list does show that new releases could not rely on TOTP exposure alone to become upper chart 'hits'. However if a record had already established some momentum I do think that it was given a boost by TOTP when it entered the 20 and was given an appearance with the prestige of a 'new entry'. Although naturally we cannot know how the record would have performed otherwise.

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  • Graham76man
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    Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
    Wow ! Have just had a read through that amazing list and while it upholds what I said above, I also realised how many of those I had forgotten about and suddenly remembered.

    The one that jumped out of the page at me in particular from away back in '66 that I had forgotten all about was Samantha Juste and No One Needs My Love today. I went to You Tube to listen to it again and was immediately swept away with nostalgia for those times. It totally epitomises that time of simple romantic melodic love songs typical of the flower power era with its charm and innocence. As I listened and sighed I so wanted to return to those times again.

    It did indeed miss out, but Samantha was a record spinner on TOTP at the time then left and married Micky Dolenz of the Monkees. She died a few years back sadly.

    Take a listen guys and get lost back in the golden decade of popular music the like of which has gone from us forever.

    Thanks Metalweb for posting that list and sending me back on a journey of discovery.
    It didn't to well on the Real Chart either, only two weeks at number 70.

    The list though is a bit misleading since some were EP tracks, which did make the EP charts, plus B sides, some of which like the Beatles Rain was a double AA record. And we know it was a double AA due to the fact the Beatles made a colour film for both tracks. And also album tracks which couldn't have made the singles charts anyway.
    With a few exceptions many did however did make the Real Chart top 50, so the records should have been picked up by the other top 50's at the time. The fact they didn't shows how bad the charts were. For the years 65 to 67 all the tracks (except albums) made the Real Chart top 100. Though some only just!

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 7th May 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 7th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    3 1 Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    1 2 You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield 2 2 2 2 4 18245
    5 3 Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful 3 3 3 3 2 17865
    2 4 Bang Bang - Cher 4 4 4 4 3 17230
    7 5 The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters 5 6 5 5 6 16225
    11 6 Sloop John B - The Beach Boys 6 5 7 6 5 15910
    4 7 Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 7 7 6 7 7 15490
    8 8 Sound Of Silence/Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors 8 8 9 8 8 14355
    9 9 Alfie - Cilla Black 9 9 8 10 9 14120
    6 10 Somebody Help Me - The Spencer Davis Group 10 10 10 9 11 13350
    12 11 Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel 11 11 11 11 10 12785
    10 12 Substitute - The Who 12 13 12 12 12 11865
    13 13 I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set 13 15 13 13 13 11030
    16 14 Someday One Day - The Seekers 14 14 14 17 14 10495
    24 15 Shotgun Wedding - Roy C 16 12 15 16 20 10235
    15 16 Elusive Butterfly - Val Doonican 15 16 16 14 15 9810
    23 17 (You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers 17 17 18 15 19 8670
    19 18 Make The World Go Away - Eddy Arnold 18 18 21 21 17 7290
    14 19 The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Any More - The Walker Brothers 19= 22 17 18 23 7280
    22 20 Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega 19= 19 19 20 22 7265
    28 21 That's Nice - Neil Christian 21 23 22 27 16 5525
    20 22 Frankie And Johnny - Elvis Presley 22 29 20 19 21 5200
    NEW 23 How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra 23 20 27 22 27 4440
    26 24 Highway Code - The Master Singers 24 26 25 25 25 3610
    18 25 Dedicated Follower Of Fashion - The Kinks 25 24 23 29 2720
    17 26 Elusive Butterfly - Bob Lind 29 23 26 2500
    NEW 27 Take It Or Leave It - The Searchers 30 25 26 2450
    NEW 28 Come On Home - Wayne Fontana 26 24 30 24 30 2435
    NEW 29 Sorrow - The Merseys 28 21 28 2255
    21 30 Blue Turns To Grey - Cliff Richard 27 29 30 18 1705
    The Ballad Of The Green Berets - Staff Sgt Barry Sadler 30 28 29 1150
    Supergirl - Graham Bonney 28 24 895
    Wild Thing - The Troggs 27 800
    Something On My Mind - Chris Andrews 28 600
    Please Stay - The Cryin' Shames 26 425

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  • Splodj
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    Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
    Samantha was a record spinner on TOTP at the time then left and married Micky Dolenz of the Monkees.
    And of course she was featured by Dolenz in the lyrics of Randy Scouse Git / Alternate Title.


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  • MrTibbs
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    Wow ! Have just had a read through that amazing list and while it upholds what I said above, I also realised how many of those I had forgotten about and suddenly remembered.

    The one that jumped out of the page at me in particular from away back in '66 that I had forgotten all about was Samantha Juste and No One Needs My Love today. I went to You Tube to listen to it again and was immediately swept away with nostalgia for those times. It totally epitomises that time of simple romantic melodic love songs typical of the flower power era with its charm and innocence. As I listened and sighed I so wanted to return to those times again.

    It did indeed miss out, but Samantha was a record spinner on TOTP at the time then left and married Micky Dolenz of the Monkees. She died a few years back sadly.

    Take a listen guys and get lost back in the golden decade of popular music the like of which has gone from us forever.

    Thanks Metalweb for posting that list and sending me back on a journey of discovery.
    Last edited by MrTibbs; Thu September 3, 2020, 23:15.

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  • Metalweb
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    Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
    Strange to believe but TOTP was not an automatic guarantee that a record would be a hit or climb the chart. There were many, many, new releases that got prime exposure but didn't even dent the Top 50, any many just outside the the Top 30 that got a plug and failed to break through any higher..

    I'm still at work guys but will post the next chart when I get home tonight.
    This is a fascinating list of TOTP flops:


    https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...hat-never-were

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 30th April 1966 for your interest.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 30th 1966 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    4 2 Bang Bang - Cher 2 2 2 2 4 18245
    18 3 Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann 3 3 4 3 2 17615
    3 4 Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 4 5 3 6 5 16910
    11 5 Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful 5 4 5 5 6 16625
    2 6 Somebody Help Me - The Spencer Davis Group 6 7 6 4 3 16130
    9 7 The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters 7 6 7 8 8 15255
    5 8 Sound Of Silence/Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors 8 8 9 7 7 14540
    8 9 Alfie - Cilla Black 9 9 8 9 10 14135
    6 10 Substitute - The Who 10 10 10 10 11 13250
    22 11 Sloop John B - The Beach Boys 11 11 11 12 13 12430
    16 12 Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel 13 14 12 15 12 11365
    12 13 I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set 12 12 16 13 9 11220
    7 14 The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore - The Walker Brothers 14 13 14 14 14 10995
    10 15 Elusive Butterfly - Val Doonican 15 15 15 11 16 10475
    15 16 Someday One Day - The Seekers 16 16 13 16 15 10360
    14 17 Elusive Butterfly - Bob Lind 19 18 17 21 22 7865
    13 18 Dedicated Follower Of Fashion - The Kinks 18 19 19 18 20 7635
    17 19 Make The World Go Away - Eddy Arnold 17 23 18 17 17 7440
    23 20 Frankie And Johnny - Elvis Presley 20 20 22 19 23 6330
    19 21 Blue Turns To Grey - Cliff Richard 21 27 21 20 18 5505
    30 22 Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega 23 24 20 25 27 5090
    NEW 23 (You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers 22 20 25 23 25 5010
    NEW 24 Shotgun Wedding - Roy C 26 17 27 28 4055
    24 25 The Ballad Of The Green Berets - Staff Sgt Barry Sadler 24 26 24 24 24 4045
    29 26 Highway Code - The Master Singers 28 22 26 26 30 3635
    20 27 You Won't Be Leaving - Herman's Hermits 25 23 22 26 3325
    25 28 That's Nice - Neil Christian 27 25 28 29 21 3000
    28 29 Supergirl - Graham Bonney 29 30 28 19 1570
    27 30 Twinkle Toes - Roy Orbison 29 30 600
    How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra 28 600
    Shapes Of Things - The Yardbirds 30 27 29 570
    Take It Or Leave It - The Searchers 29 400
    Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Barry McGuire 30 200
    A Hard Day's Night - The Ramsey Lewis Trio 30 200

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  • MrTibbs
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    Strange to believe but TOTP was not an automatic guarantee that a record would be a hit or climb the chart. There were many, many, new releases that got prime exposure but didn't even dent the Top 50, any many just outside the the Top 30 that got a plug and failed to break through any higher..

    I'm still at work guys but will post the next chart when I get home tonight.

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  • Splodj
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    So the mystery of why NME was ahead and RR behind remains unsolved!

    With regard to the importance of getting exposure on TOTP, it is interesting to see records that peaked just outside the BBC Top 20 that you feel would have had a completely different trajectory had they made it in.

    For example, Ipenema peaked at number 21. One place higher and it would have been on TOTP and you could expect it to climb up the following week.

    I have been looking to see if there was any record prevented from entering the 20 by the RR drag effect alone, but cannot find any.

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  • RokinRobinOfLocksley
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    While the RR chart was originally based on averaging the results of 30 independent non-label aligned record dealers, per Alan Smith when they ramped up to 75 to 85 dealers in January 1964, they contacted EMI and Decca to obtain a list of 100 prime record shops, mostly based in London, Manchester, and Liverpool.

    https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...sic+now+charts

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