The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[MrTibbs]

Yeah Bob, MM and Disc are normally well aligned but on this occasion MM is actually out of step with all the others, even RR. The averaging process reigns it in to a more realistic No 9 position.

[BobPatience]

What is going on with 'Hey Girl'? Normally MM and Disc are a very agreeable couple, but somehow it is far ahead of the pack in MM, yet it lost 2 positions in Disc.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 28th May 1966 for your interest.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 28th 1966								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	100	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
6	1	Paint It Black - The Rolling Stones					1	1	1	2	1	18950
4	2	Wild Thing - The Troggs					2	2	2	1	2	18515
9	3	Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra					3	3	3	4	3	17680
1	4	Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann					4	4	4	3	4	17245
8	5	Sorrow - The Merseys					5	6	5	5	5	16310
2	6	Sloop John B - The Beach Boys					6	5	7	7	6	15725
14	7	Monday Monday - The Mamas and Papas					7	7	8	6	8	15005
5	8	Shotgun Wedding - Roy C					8	8	11	9	7	13840
10	9	Hey Girl - The Small Faces					10	12	6	11	10	13835
12	10	Rainy Day Women Nos 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan					9	9	10	8	9	13820
3	11	Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful					11	10	9	10	11	13500
17	12	Promises - Ken Dodd					12	11	13	12	12	12015
7	13	You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield					13	14	12	13	14	11395
24	14	When A Man Loves A Woman - Percy Sledge					14	13	14	15	15	10810
11	15	The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters					15	15	15	14	13	10430
13	16	Bang Bang - Cher					16	16	16	17	16	9425
16	17	Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel					17	20	18	16	17	8140
22	18	Come On Home - Wayne Fontana					19	17	21	21	21	7150
15	19	Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich					18	23	19	19	18	6905
19	20	(You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers					20	28	17	18	19	6420
NEW	21	I Love Her - Paul and Barry Ryan					21	19	23	22	20	6235
18	22	Alfie - Cilla Black					22	21	20	20	29	6020
21	23	How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra					23	25	24	23	22	4515
20	24	Sound Of Silence/Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors					24	27	22	26	24	4145
NEW	25	Nothing Comes Easy - Sandie Shaw					25	18	30	27	25	3760
NEW	26	Can't Live Without You - The Mindbenders					27	22	27	28	28	3355
29	27	California Dreamin' - The Mamas and Papas					26	24		24	23	2780
25	28	That's Nice - Neil Christian					28	29	26	25	27	2590
23	29	I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set					30		25			1500
30	30	Once - Geneveve						26				1000
		Eight Miles High - The Byrds							28			750
		Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega							29			500
		Once There Was A Time / Not Responsible - Tom Jones					29				26	425
		Highway Code - The Master Singers						30		29		400
		I Feel A Cry Comin' On - Hank Locklin								30	30	185

[Splodj]

Agreed Brian.

In retrospect the lagging behind of RR (who ironically also used 'trend', but still lagged!) doesn't matter so much, and is not cited as a main reason for its unsuitability as the official chart. If it had got it's positions correct but one week later - who would care?

But at the time it mattered very much. Anyone who knew about the charts in the 60s regarded RR as the duffer because it was behind the others. So in the absence of weighting (which I agree would have been preferable but think would have been difficult to do at the time) I can understand why the BBC used anti-drag techniques, as their primary consideration was to produce a chart that was suitable for broadcast.

[MrTibbs]

'Trend' was not fair though, it shouldn't matter whether the record was climbing or sliding, both held the same points. BUT that is now the beauty of The Ultimate Averaged system adding a further tier to the averaging criteria by factoring in store returns as this fairly separates records by points rather than by arbitrary chart movement trends.

[Graham76man]

I wonder what criteria NME used for separating the sides. In 1967 they listed separately Nancy Sinatra's 'You Only Live Twice' and 'Jackson'. Yet Discogs says 'Jackson' was the B-side, so was it separated because it was a duet with Lee Hazlewood?

Technically speaking it would have been a double AA side. The problem was that both sides of the record were popular and I think NME just let the retailers decide which side they listed in the returns. In this case the fault was with the record company. They should have not have put the two tracks on the same record. Both were strong enough to chart separately. On the Real Chart I only list Nancy, but this was for reasons of space. In the Chart Book S there is a footnote to say about the other side. The fact it stopped at 12 to me says a lot. And all down to the fact that the two sides weakened the sales of the record somehow.

[Splodj]

On the BBC charts I've analysed they did tiebreak in a majority of cases. The basis was 'trend '. There was not a consistent rule about when they did or did not tiebreak. But if pressed for a possible explanation regarding 21st May, I would say they did it for 3/4 because the Troggs were gaining fast and Spoonful were falling; but they didn't do it for 11/12 because the Faces and Dylan were going up at about the same speed.

I take Robin's point about 'trend' being an unfair method for tiebreaking, but I can see a justification for the BBC using it - namely, by the time POTP aired it was over a week since the sales period ended for that chart.

[MrTibbs]

I came across this snippet today posted in asm's Updated Chart History thread away back in March 2014 by our good friend RokinRobin.

'I personally wish that someone would construct new weekly composite charts for the 60s, all 520 of them, using the 5 major charts as you discuss (NME, MM, Disc, RM, RR), but weight them according to the number of record shops each one sampled. If the BBC had been doing this from the beginning, there wouldn't have been a need to go with the BMRB in Feb 1969, although eventually a national sales chart would had to have come into being'.

It's taken 6 years Robin but your wish is my command lol.

[MrTibbs]

You are spot on 'brain'. I've noted this and some other occasions also when entering data that the BBC did not always consistently apply their own rules on tied positions. Normally The Troggs and Lovin' Spoonful should have tied by their rules and been equal 3 but for some reason they didn't apply this on this week or it wasn't carefully checked. It's another reason why I revisited compiling an average chart to include correcting many of the errors the BBC made.

[braindeadpj]

The May 21st charts raise some intriguing questions. For the no.3 and 4 the points should be identical for the BBC chart, but they aren't. Initially I thought that perhaps this was a chart where the RR chart wasn't included as that would explain why the Troggs were no.3 (2 no.3s 1 no.4) rather than the Lovin' Spoonful (2 no.4's and a no.3). However if that is so then The Rolling Stones would've been at equal 7 with Dusty and the Merseys at 6, rather than at 6 above Dusty and the Merseys, so the question is how did they decide on the Troggs being at No.3. Is this another example of miscalculation or child bias (assuming the rumors of the daughter doing the calculations is true!).
Also this week's chart is one of the exceptions to the RR chart being behind as it has the Stones at no.5 (same as NME) while the other 2 charts (MM and Disc) have it lower, despite Disc including preorders...

[MrTibbs]

That's an interesting point. NME seemed to arbitrarily split sides for some records and not others. Interestingly as highlighted above they were still doing it in 1967, yet for some strange reason they did not split Beatles double A sides such as Day Tripper / We Can Work It Out, Yellow Submarine / Eleanor Rigby etc.

We all know why !!!. Denying the Beatles the No 1 slot by splitting would have caused a massive outcry. So not a fair practise, rules for some and rules for others.

[Splodj]

I wonder what criteria NME used for separating the sides. In 1967 they listed separately Nancy Sinatra's 'You Only Live Twice' and 'Jackson'. Yet Discogs says 'Jackson' was the B-side, so was it separated because it was a duet with Lee Hazlewood?

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 21st May 1966 for your interest.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 21st 1966								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	100	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann					1	1	1	1	1	19050
3	2	Sloop John B - The Beach Boys					2	2	2	2	2	18415
2	3	Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful					4	4	3	4	3	17480
12	4	Wild Thing - The Troggs					3	3	4	3	4	17445
8	5	Shotgun Wedding - Roy c					5	6	5	5	6	16225
NEW	6	Paint It Black - The Rolling Stones					6	5	9	8	5	15210
4	7	You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield					7	8	7	7	7	15040
15	8	Sorrow - The Merseys					8	9	6	6	9	15020
NEW	9	Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra					9	7	10	10	12	13765
23	10	Hey Girl - The Small Faces					11=	13	8	9	15	12910
5	11	The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters					10	11	11	12	8	12855
27	12	Rainy Day Woman Nos 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan					11=	10	12	13	10	12535
6	13	Bang Bang - Cher					13	14	14	11	11	11350
NEW	14	Monday Monday - The Mamas and Papas					14	12	13	14	17	11190
7	15	Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich					15	16	18	17	13	9180
11	16	Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel					17	19	16	15	16	9025
29	17	Promises - Ken Dodd					16	15	19	18	14	8945
9	18	Alfie - Cilla Black					18	18	15	19	20	8735
13	19	(You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers					19	20	17	16	19	8220
10	20	Sound Of Silance/Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors					20	21	20	22	18	6755
20	21	How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra					21	23	22	20	21	5800
24	22	Come On Home - Wayne Fontana					22	22	25	21	22	5065
14	23	I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set					23	26	21	23	29	4470
NEW	24	When A Man Loves A Woman - Percy Sledge					26	17		28		3100
19	25	That's Nice - Neil Christian					24		24	25	23	3030
21	26	Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega					27		23	26	27	2840
16	27	Somebody Help Me - The Spencer Davis Group					25	28	27	24	25	2810
18	28	Someday One Day - The Seekers					29	29	26		28	1905
30	29	California Dreamin' - The Mamas and Papas					28	25		29	26	1825
NEW	30	Once - Geneveve						24				1400
		I Love Her - Paul and Barry Ryan					30	27		27	30	1285
		Substitute - The Who							28			750
		Elusive Butterfly - Val Doonican						29	30			650
		Frankie And Johnny - Elvis Presley									24	595
		Take It Or Leave It - The Searchers							29			500
		Can't Live Without You - The Mindbenders						29				400
		Confusion - Lee Dorsey								30		100

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers ! (If you haven't guessed already 'Fluff' was my favourite DJ back in the day !)

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 14th May 1966 for your interest.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 14th 1966								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	100	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann					1	1	1	1	1	19050
3	2	Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful					2	2	2	2	2	18415
6	3	Sloop John B - The Beach Boys					3	3	3	4	3	17680
2	4	You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield					4	4	4	3	6	17075
5	5	The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters					5	5	5	6	5	16410
4	6	Bang Bang - Cher					6	6	6	5	4	16145
7	7	Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich					7	8	7	7	7	15040
15	8	Shotgun Wedding - Roy C					8	7	9	8	10	14385
9	9	Alfie - Cilla Black					9	9	8	9	11	14050
8	10	Sound Of Silence/ Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors					10	10	11	10	8	13255
11	11	Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel					11	11	10	11	9	13120
NEW	12	Wild Thing - The Troggs					12	12	16	13	13	10880
17	13	(You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers					13	15	14	12	15	10710
13	14	I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set					15	18	12	14	17	10240
29	15	Sorrow - The Merseys					14	13	17	19	12	9915
10	16	Somebody Help Me - The Spencer Davis Group					16	14	18	17	16	9325
12	17	Substitute - The Who					17	21	13	15	18	9205
14	18	Someday One Day - The Seekers					18	16	15	21	20	8935
21	19	That's Nice - Neil Christian					19	24	21	16	14	6845
23	20	How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra					20	22	20	20	19	6670
20	21	Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega					21	23	19	18	22	6665
16	22	Elusive Butterfly - Val Doonican					22	19	22	22	21	6400
NEW	23	Hey Girl - The Small Faces					23	16	24	28	23	5730
28	24	Come On Home - Wayne Fontana					24	25	26	23	25	3760
18	25	Make The World Go Away - Eddy Arnold					25		23	26	24	3095
24	26	Highway Code - Master Singers					27	27	25	24	30	3085
NEW	27	Rainy Day Women Nos 12 & 35 - Bob Dylan					28=	20	28			2950
22	28	Frankie And Johnny - Elvis Presley					26	26	27	25	27	2940
NEW	29	Promises - Ken Dodd					28=	27	30	27	26	1875
NEW	30	California Dreamin' - The Mamas and Papas					30	29			29	570
		Take It Or Leave It - The Searchers							29			500
		Blue Turns To Grey - Cliff Richard									28	255
		Once - Geneveve						30				200
		Strangers In The Night - Frank Sinatra						30				200
		The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore - The Walker Brothers								29		200
		Elusive Butterfly - Bob Lind								30		100

[MrTibbs]

It's a really interesting list though, and I believe adding the LP's, EP's, and B sides was probably to make the list all inclusive and comprehensive as to what was played on the show outwith what was on the chart.

[Splodj]

I agree that the LPs, EPs and B-sides do not count as 'misses', but the rest of the list does show that new releases could not rely on TOTP exposure alone to become upper chart 'hits'. However if a record had already established some momentum I do think that it was given a boost by TOTP when it entered the 20 and was given an appearance with the prestige of a 'new entry'. Although naturally we cannot know how the record would have performed otherwise.

[Graham76man]

Wow ! Have just had a read through that amazing list and while it upholds what I said above, I also realised how many of those I had forgotten about and suddenly remembered.

The one that jumped out of the page at me in particular from away back in '66 that I had forgotten all about was Samantha Juste and No One Needs My Love today. I went to You Tube to listen to it again and was immediately swept away with nostalgia for those times. It totally epitomises that time of simple romantic melodic love songs typical of the flower power era with its charm and innocence. As I listened and sighed I so wanted to return to those times again.

It did indeed miss out, but Samantha was a record spinner on TOTP at the time then left and married Micky Dolenz of the Monkees. She died a few years back sadly.

Take a listen guys and get lost back in the golden decade of popular music the like of which has gone from us forever.

Thanks Metalweb for posting that list and sending me back on a journey of discovery.

It didn't to well on the Real Chart either, only two weeks at number 70.

The list though is a bit misleading since some were EP tracks, which did make the EP charts, plus B sides, some of which like the Beatles Rain was a double AA record. And we know it was a double AA due to the fact the Beatles made a colour film for both tracks. And also album tracks which couldn't have made the singles charts anyway.
With a few exceptions many did however did make the Real Chart top 50, so the records should have been picked up by the other top 50's at the time. The fact they didn't shows how bad the charts were. For the years 65 to 67 all the tracks (except albums) made the Real Chart top 100. Though some only just!

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 7th May 1966 for your interest.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 7th 1966								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	100	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
3	1	Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann					1	1	1	1	1	19050
1	2	You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield					2	2	2	2	4	18245
5	3	Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful					3	3	3	3	2	17865
2	4	Bang Bang - Cher					4	4	4	4	3	17230
7	5	The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters					5	6	5	5	6	16225
11	6	Sloop John B - The Beach Boys					6	5	7	6	5	15910
4	7	Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich					7	7	6	7	7	15490
8	8	Sound Of Silence/Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors					8	8	9	8	8	14355
9	9	Alfie - Cilla Black					9	9	8	10	9	14120
6	10	Somebody Help Me - The Spencer Davis Group					10	10	10	9	11	13350
12	11	Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel					11	11	11	11	10	12785
10	12	Substitute - The Who					12	13	12	12	12	11865
13	13	I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set					13	15	13	13	13	11030
16	14	Someday One Day - The Seekers					14	14	14	17	14	10495
24	15	Shotgun Wedding - Roy C					16	12	15	16	20	10235
15	16	Elusive Butterfly - Val Doonican					15	16	16	14	15	9810
23	17	(You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers					17	17	18	15	19	8670
19	18	Make The World Go Away - Eddy Arnold					18	18	21	21	17	7290
14	19	The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Any More - The Walker Brothers					19=	22	17	18	23	7280
22	20	Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega					19=	19	19	20	22	7265
28	21	That's Nice - Neil Christian					21	23	22	27	16	5525
20	22	Frankie And Johnny - Elvis Presley					22	29	20	19	21	5200
NEW	23	How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra					23	20	27	22	27	4440
26	24	Highway Code - The Master Singers					24	26	25	25	25	3610
18	25	Dedicated Follower Of Fashion - The Kinks					25		24	23	29	2720
17	26	Elusive Butterfly - Bob Lind					29		23	26		2500
NEW	27	Take It Or Leave It - The Searchers					30	25	26			2450
NEW	28	Come On Home - Wayne Fontana					26	24	30	24	30	2435
NEW	29	Sorrow - The Merseys					28	21			28	2255
21	30	Blue Turns To Grey - Cliff Richard					27		29	30	18	1705
		The Ballad Of The Green Berets - Staff Sgt Barry Sadler						30	28	29		1150
		Supergirl - Graham Bonney								28	24	895
		Wild Thing - The Troggs						27				800
		Something On My Mind - Chris Andrews						28				600
		Please Stay - The Cryin' Shames									26	425

[Splodj]

Samantha was a record spinner on TOTP at the time then left and married Micky Dolenz of the Monkees.

And of course she was featured by Dolenz in the lyrics of Randy Scouse Git / Alternate Title.

[MrTibbs]

Wow ! Have just had a read through that amazing list and while it upholds what I said above, I also realised how many of those I had forgotten about and suddenly remembered.

The one that jumped out of the page at me in particular from away back in '66 that I had forgotten all about was Samantha Juste and No One Needs My Love today. I went to You Tube to listen to it again and was immediately swept away with nostalgia for those times. It totally epitomises that time of simple romantic melodic love songs typical of the flower power era with its charm and innocence. As I listened and sighed I so wanted to return to those times again.

It did indeed miss out, but Samantha was a record spinner on TOTP at the time then left and married Micky Dolenz of the Monkees. She died a few years back sadly.

Take a listen guys and get lost back in the golden decade of popular music the like of which has gone from us forever.

Thanks Metalweb for posting that list and sending me back on a journey of discovery.

[Metalweb]

Strange to believe but TOTP was not an automatic guarantee that a record would be a hit or climb the chart. There were many, many, new releases that got prime exposure but didn't even dent the Top 50, any many just outside the the Top 30 that got a plug and failed to break through any higher..

I'm still at work guys but will post the next chart when I get home tonight.

This is a fascinating list of TOTP flops:


https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...hat-never-were

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 30th April 1966 for your interest.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 30th 1966								NME	MM	DISC	RR	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey				Stores	200	250	100	85	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield					1	1	1	1	1	19050
4	2	Bang Bang - Cher					2	2	2	2	4	18245
18	3	Pretty Flamingo - Manfred Mann					3	3	4	3	2	17615
3	4	Hold Tight - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich					4	5	3	6	5	16910
11	5	Daydream - The Lovin' Spoonful					5	4	5	5	6	16625
2	6	Somebody Help Me - The Spencer Davis Group					6	7	6	4	3	16130
9	7	The Pied Piper - Crispian St Peters					7	6	7	8	8	15255
5	8	Sound Of Silence/Love Me With All Of Your Heart - The Bachelors					8	8	9	7	7	14540
8	9	Alfie - Cilla Black					9	9	8	9	10	14135
6	10	Substitute - The Who					10	10	10	10	11	13250
22	11	Sloop John B - The Beach Boys					11	11	11	12	13	12430
16	12	Homeward Bound - Simon and Garfunkel					13	14	12	15	12	11365
12	13	I Put A Spell On You - The Alan Price Set					12	12	16	13	9	11220
7	14	The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore - The Walker Brothers					14	13	14	14	14	10995
10	15	Elusive Butterfly - Val Doonican					15	15	15	11	16	10475
15	16	Someday One Day - The Seekers					16	16	13	16	15	10360
14	17	Elusive Butterfly - Bob Lind					19	18	17	21	22	7865
13	18	Dedicated Follower Of Fashion - The Kinks					18	19	19	18	20	7635
17	19	Make The World Go Away - Eddy Arnold					17	23	18	17	17	7440
23	20	Frankie And Johnny - Elvis Presley					20	20	22	19	23	6330
19	21	Blue Turns To Grey - Cliff Richard					21	27	21	20	18	5505
30	22	Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Norma Tanega					23	24	20	25	27	5090
NEW	23	(You're My) Soul And Inspiration - The Righteous Brothers					22	20	25	23	25	5010
NEW	24	Shotgun Wedding - Roy C					26	17	27		28	4055
24	25	The Ballad Of The Green Berets - Staff Sgt Barry Sadler					24	26	24	24	24	4045
29	26	Highway Code - The Master Singers					28	22	26	26	30	3635
20	27	You Won't Be Leaving - Herman's Hermits					25		23	22	26	3325
25	28	That's Nice - Neil Christian					27	25	28	29	21	3000
28	29	Supergirl - Graham Bonney					29		30	28	19	1570
27	30	Twinkle Toes - Roy Orbison							29	30		600
		How Does That Grab You Darlin' - Nancy Sinatra						28				600
		Shapes Of Things - The Yardbirds					30			27	29	570
		Take It Or Leave It - The Searchers						29				400
		Walkin' My Cat Named Dog - Barry McGuire						30				200
		A Hard Day's Night - The Ramsey Lewis Trio						30				200

[MrTibbs]

Strange to believe but TOTP was not an automatic guarantee that a record would be a hit or climb the chart. There were many, many, new releases that got prime exposure but didn't even dent the Top 50, any many just outside the the Top 30 that got a plug and failed to break through any higher..

I'm still at work guys but will post the next chart when I get home tonight.

[Splodj]

So the mystery of why NME was ahead and RR behind remains unsolved!

With regard to the importance of getting exposure on TOTP, it is interesting to see records that peaked just outside the BBC Top 20 that you feel would have had a completely different trajectory had they made it in.

For example, Ipenema peaked at number 21. One place higher and it would have been on TOTP and you could expect it to climb up the following week.

I have been looking to see if there was any record prevented from entering the 20 by the RR drag effect alone, but cannot find any.

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While the RR chart was originally based on averaging the results of 30 independent non-label aligned record dealers, per Alan Smith when they ramped up to 75 to 85 dealers in January 1964, they contacted EMI and Decca to obtain a list of 100 prime record shops, mostly based in London, Manchester, and Liverpool.

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