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  • MrTibbs
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    Yip. Tears was and is the biggest selling single in 1965. Over 1.6 million. The Beatles and Seekers both sold over a million too with their December hits but Dodd still outsold them both. How it managed to do so is one of life's great mysteries.

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  • BobPatience
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    According to the BBC, yes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10201932

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  • Robbie
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    ^
    Wasn't 'Tears' a million seller? Unless I'm getting 'Tears' mixed up with another song I think it may have been the biggest selling single of 1965, outselling anything even The Beatles released.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 9th October 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 9th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Tears - Ken Dodd 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    3 2 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    10 3 Almost There - Andy Williams 3 3 3 3 5 17610
    5 4 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 4 5 4 4 4 16945
    8 5 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 6 6 5 6 6 16125
    2 6 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 5 4 9 5 3 15880
    6 7 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 7 7 7 7 7 15240
    4 8 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 8 8 6 8 8 15105
    20 9 Message Understood - Sandie Shaw 9 9 8 9 12 13965
    7 10 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 10 10 11 10 9 13170
    13 11 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 11 11 12 11 11 12450
    12 12 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 12 14 10 12 13 12080
    9 13 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 13 13 14 13 14 11095
    11 14 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 14 12 18 14 10 10535
    22 15 Some Of Your Lovin' - Dusty Springfield 15 15 15 15 19 9820
    19 16 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 16 18 16 16 15 9210
    16 17 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 17 21 13 19 18 8805
    15 18 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 18 20 17 21 16 7975
    24 19 In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 19 16 22 17 22 7415
    NEW 20 It's Good News Week - Hedgehoppers Anonymous 21 17 19 18 7100
    14 21 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 20 19 23 20 17 6690
    23 22 Take A Heart - The Sorrows 23 25 24 24 21 4500
    NEW 23 Evil Hearted You / Still I'm Sad - The Yardbirds 26 24 21 26 4400
    25 24 Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown 24 22 26 22 3950
    27 25 Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 22 23 28 23 25 3660
    17 26 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 25 20 25 3350
    18 27 Laugh At Me - Sonny 27 25 27 20 2835
    30 28 California Girls - The Beach Boys 28= 28 30 28 28 1405
    NEW 29 You've Got To Hide Your Love Away - The Silkie 27 30 30 1185
    21 30 Help - The Beatles 28= 29 23 1180
    Out Of Our Heads (LP) - The Rolling Stones 29 200
    Yesterday Man - Chris Andrews 26 1000
    Do You Believe In Magic - The Pack 27 800
    Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 30 24 595
    All I Really Want To Do - Cher 26 425
    That Means A Lot - P J Proby 29 400
    It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 27 340
    She Needs Love - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 30 200
    I Love You Yes I Do - The Merseybeats 30 200
    Try To Understand - Lulu 29 170




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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 2nd October 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Ultimate Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 2nd 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    3 1 Tears - Ken Dodd 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    1 2 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 2 2 3 2 2 18165
    9 3 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 3 3 2 3 5 17860
    2 4 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 4= 5 5 6 3 16580
    7 5 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 6 6 4 4 6 16575
    4 6 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 4= 4 6 5 4 16545
    11 7 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 7 9 7 9 10 14385
    14 8 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 8= 7 12 7 11 13650
    5 9 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 8= 11 9 10 7 13640
    19 10 Almost There - Andy Williams 10 8 11 8 12 13515
    6 11 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 11 12 10 11 8 13005
    8 12 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 12 14 8 12 9 12920
    20 13 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 13 13 14 13 17 10840
    16 14 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 14 10 18 15 15 10410
    13 15 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 15 15 15 16 13 10230
    10 16 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 16 19 13 14 16 9875
    15 17 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 17 18 16 19 *1 8689
    12 18 Laugh At Me - Sonny 18 20 17 20 14 8245
    21 19 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 19 16 21 17 19 7920
    NEW 20 Message Understood - Sandie Shaw 20 17 20 18 23 7530
    17 21 Help - The Beatles 21 22 19 21 18 6905
    27 22 Some Of Your Lovin' - Dusty Springfield 22 23 27 22 22 4265
    28 23 Take A Heart - The Sorrows 23 29 22 24 26 3775
    NEW 24 In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 26 21 26 26 3750
    NEW 25 Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown 28 26 24 25 3350
    18 26 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 24= 23 29 20 3135
    24 27 Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 24= 24 29 23 27 3040
    22 28 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 27 25 28 21 2650
    NEW 29 She Needs Love - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 25 1200
    29 30 California Girls - The Beach Boys 28 28 1005
    It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 28 30 29 870
    That Means A Lot - P J Proby 27 800
    You've Got To Hide Your Love Away - The Silkie 29 27 800
    Try To Understand - Lulu 29 30 25 760
    What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 30 24 595
    It's Good News Week - Hedgehoppers Anonymous 29 400
    All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 25th September 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Ultimate Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 25th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    3 1 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 1 3 1 1 1 18650
    1 2 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    6 3 Tears - Ken Dodd 3 1 3 3 3 18180
    5 4 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 4 4 4 4 5 17060
    2 5 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 5 5 5 5 4 16595
    4 6 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 6 6 6 6 6 15875
    13 7 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 7 7 7 7 9 15070
    7 8 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 8 9 8 9 7 14390
    24 9 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 9 7 9 8 11 14300
    10 10 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 10 11 10 11 8 13205
    18 11 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 11 10 11 10 14 12745
    11 12 Laugh At Me - Sonny 12 12 12 12 10 12235
    14 13 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 13 14 13 14 12 11215
    20 14 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 16 15 14 16 16 10225
    12 15 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 15 15 15 15 *1 10160
    19 16 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 14 13 18 13 15 10010
    8 17 Help - The Beatles 17 18 17 17 13 9030
    9 18 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 18 19 16 18 17 8640
    27 19 Almost There - Andy Williams 19 17 19 19 18 8105
    21 20 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 20 21 21 20 23 6280
    26 21 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 21 20 23 21 22 5965
    17 22 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 22 25 20 22 19 5870
    15 23 What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 23 27 22 26 20 4485
    NEW 24 Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 24 23 24 23 30 4235
    23 25 It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 25 22 28 28 24 3445
    16 26 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 26 29 29 27 21 2150
    NEW 27 Some Of Your Lovin' - Dusty Springfield 27 24 24 2100
    NEW 28 Take A Heart - The Sorrows 28 30 26 25 2050
    30 29 California Girls - The Beach Boys 29 25 26 1925
    29 30 Try To Understand - Lulu 30 27 25 1510
    Papa's Got A Brand New Bag - James Brown 26 1000
    Paradise - Frank Ifield 30 30 28 605
    In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 28 600
    Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 27 340
    Message Understood - Sandie Shaw 30 200
    It's The Same Old Song - The Four Tops 29 200
    The Time In Between - Cliff Richard 29 170

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 18th September 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Ultimate Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 18th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 2 2 3 2 2 18165
    4 3 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 3 3 2 3 3 18030
    3 4 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 4 4 4 4 4 17145
    10 5 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 5 6 5 5 5 16310
    13 6 Tears - Ken Dodd 6 5 6 6 7 15990
    6 7 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 7 7 8 7 6 15075
    5 8 Help - The Beatles 8 8 9 9 8 14255
    8 9 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 10 11 7 10 11 13800
    7 10 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 9 9 11 8 10 13485
    12 11 Laugh At Me - Sonny 11 10 10 11 9 13320
    17 12 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 12 12 14 13 *1 11380
    NEW 13 Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 13= 13 12 12 18 11355
    16 14 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 13= 13 15 14 13 10830
    11 15 What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 15 15 13 15 14 10745
    9 16 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 16 16 17 16 12 9615
    15 17 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 17 18 16 17 15 9110
    18 18 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 18 17 18 18 17 8540
    20 19 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 19 20 19 19 16 7675
    26 20 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 20 19 20 20 20 7185
    NEW 21 Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 21 21 22 22 24 5745
    14 22 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 22 28 21 27 19 4520
    29 23 It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 23 27 23 24 22 4265
    NEW 24 If You Gotta Go, Go Now - Manfred Mann 25 21 26 23 4050
    25 25 Paradise - Frank Ifield 24 25 24 25 26 3975
    27 26 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 27 21 28 26 29 3420
    NEW 27 Almost There - Andy Williams 26 24 30 21 27 2990
    23 28 The Time In Between - Cliff Richard 28 27 28 23 1980
    NEW 29 Try To Understand - Lulu 30 26 29 29 1700
    NEW 30 California Girls - The Beach Boys 25 1500
    Don't Make My Baby Blue - The Shadows 29 21 850
    We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 25 510
    Run To My Lovin' Arms - Billy Fury 29 30 500
    You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 28 255
    It's The Same Old Song - The Four Tops 30 200
    See My Friend - The Kinks 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    All the supportive comments made above from you guys make it all worthwhile and keep me motivated, and it's just as interesting to me too to compile and view this more accurate Ultimate Averaged chart reflecting the sixties as it should been . Thanks to you all for your continuing interest in this too.

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  • Graham76man
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    You are doing a great job Brian, don't worry about being appreciated, because you should know you are

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks Borobear. Appreciated and I'm glad ur enjoying this thread. Yeah I'll be keeping it going at least 1 new chart every day. My plan is 64 to 69, then 60 to 63, 56 to 59.

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  • Borobear
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    Would like to add my appreciation for this thread. May be quietly in the background but enjoying your efforts MrTibbs! Please keep it going

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 11th September 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 11th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    2 1 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    1 2 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    7 3 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 4 3 3 4 6 17425
    8 4 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 3 4 5 3 3 17080
    3 5 Help - The Beatles 5 5 4 5 5 16760
    4 6 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 6 6 6 6 4 16045
    5 7 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 7 7 7 7 8 15155
    11 8 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 8 8 9 10 9 14070
    6 9 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 9 13 8 8 7 13690
    23 10 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 10 9 11 9 11 13300
    10 11 What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 12 12 10 12 12 12565
    13 12 Laugh At Me - Sonny 11 11 12 11 10 12535
    28 13 Tears - Ken Dodd 13 10 14 15 16 11325
    9 14 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 16 17 13 16 15 10160
    19 15 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 14 14 17 13 14 10145
    18 16 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 15 16 15 17 13 9930
    24 17 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 17 15 19 14 *1 9175
    25 18 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 18 18 18 18 23 7830
    12 19 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 19 23 20 20 20 6385
    26 20 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 20 21 24 19 21 5800
    20 21 Don't Make My Baby Blue - The Shadows 21 29 21 21 17 5090
    15 22 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 24 16 19 4770
    22 23 The Time In Between Cliff Richard 23 20 26 27 22 4615
    14 24 See My Friend - The Kinks 22 22 22 18 4255
    NEW 25 Paradise - Frank Ifield 25 26 23 26 27 3840
    NEW 26 Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 26 19 24 29 3270
    29 27 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 27 21 23 2800
    16 28 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 28 25 25 25 2610
    NEW 29 It's All Over Now Baby Blue - Joan Baez 30 25 29 29 1900
    17 30 Catch Me If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 29 27 24 1595
    Help (LP) - The Beatles 28 300
    Eve Of Destruction - Barry McGuire 24 1400
    Summer Nights - Marianne Faithfull 28 26 1175
    Baby Don't Go - Sonny and Cher 26 1000
    You're My Girl - The Rockin' Berries 28 30 700
    There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 28 255
    Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 30 250
    Hark - Unit 4 + 2 30 200
    Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 4th September 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.


    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 4th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 1 2 1 1 1 18850
    6 2 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 2 1 2 2 3 18530
    2 3 Help - The Beatles 3 3 3 3 2 17865
    3 4 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 4 4 4 5 5 16960
    5 5 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 5 6 6 4 6 16075
    4 6 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 6 8 5 6 4 15895
    11 7 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 7= 7 7 7 9 15070
    16 8 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 7= 4 10 8 8 14905
    7 9 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 9 11 8 9 7 13990
    12 10 What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 10 10 9 10 11 13500
    17 11 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 11 9 11 12 13 12830
    8 12 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 12 12 12 11 12 12165
    27 13 Laught At Me - Sonny 14 13 14 19 19 10070
    13 14 See My Friend - The Kinks 13 19 15 13 10 9985
    9 15 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 16 23 13 16 14 9045
    14 16 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 15 17 18 14 16 9025
    10 17 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 17 18 16 17 17 8940
    21 18 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 19 15 17 22 18 8705
    20 19 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 20 14 22 18 21 7800
    15 20 Don't Make My Baby Blue - The Shadows 18 22 19 15 15 7760
    18 21 Summer Nights - Marianne Faithfull 21 21 20 25 20 6285
    23 22 The Time In Between - Cliff Richard 22 20 23 27 23 5280
    NEW 23 Look Through Any Window - The Hollies 23 16 27 21 5000
    29 24 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 24 25 24 24 *1 4220
    NEW 25 Il Silenzio - Nini Rosso 26 29 21 26 28 3655
    NEW 26 Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 27 30 26 23 30 2335
    19 27 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 28 25 22 2265
    NEW 28 Tears - Ken Dodd 29 24 29 1900
    NEW 29 Whatcha Gonna Do About It - The Small Faces 27 800
    24 30 With These Hands - Tom Jones 30 30 25 760
    Help (LP) - The Beatles 25 26 20 2100
    Paradise - Frank Ifield 28 750
    Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 28 600
    There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 24 595
    Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 26 425
    Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 29 29 370
    Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 27 340
    In The Midnight Hour - Wilson Pickett 28 300
    California Girls - The Beach Boys 30 100

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  • MrTibbs
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    Great stuff, thanks Brain and Robin. Next chart coming up

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  • RokinRobinOfLocksley
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    Appreciate your efforts Brian, this is important stuff, keep 'em comin', keep on rockin', peace n luv Ringo Starr...

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  • braindeadpj
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    So the same week that the Rolling Stones debut with Satisfaction at no.7 on the BBC chart, Bob Dylan debuts with Like a Rolling Stone at No.7 on the NME chart.. I know we had Post Malone and a song called Post Malone on the chart at the same time recently, but i don't think they debuted on the same week did they? I wonder how many other times this has happened... I expect it was mentioned in the MW column that week....

    It's certainly fascinating seeing how the positions of songs vary on the 4 charts and how the BBC chart and Ultimate Averaged chart also vary. It is especially important to see where differences from the "official" charts occur based on the Ultimate Averaged chart. Frequently, but not always the "official" charts do lag behind the other charts suggesting there would appear to be a timing difference between the charts even though according to the historical info there isn't......
    Keep the charts coming please.
    Last edited by braindeadpj; Sat August 8, 2020, 19:20.

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  • MrTibbs
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    I'm posting lots of charts for you guys and I enjoy doing so and although hundreds of you are looking at them I don't hear from you so I don't know if you are liking them or why. So please tell me

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 28th August 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 28th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    4 1 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    1 2 Help - The Beatles 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    6 3 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 3 5 3 3 3 17380
    9 4 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 4 4 4 4 5 17060
    8 5 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 5 6 5 6 7 16040
    NEW 6 (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones 7 3 6 5 15 15810
    3 7 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 6 8 7 7 4 15295
    5 8 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 8 9 9 9 6 14225
    2 9 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 9 10 8 8 8 14205
    7 10 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 10 12 10 10 9 13020
    NEW 11 Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 11 7 14 12 19 11970
    18 12 What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 13 13 12 14 16 11325
    16 13 See My Friend - The Kinks 14= 18 11 15 12 10815
    11 14 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 12 17 13 13 11 10800
    17 15 Don't Make My Baby Blue - The Shadows 14= 15 15 16 10 10485
    24 16 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 16 14 17 11 18 10005
    30 17 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 18 11 18 18 22 9315
    12 18 Summer Nights - Marianne Faithfull 17 19 16 17 13 9080
    10 19 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 19 25 19 22 14 6545
    21 20 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 20 16 24 20 25 6360
    20 21 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 21 23 21 19 24 5895
    13 22 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 22 26 22 23 17 5240
    NEW 23 The Time In Between - Cliff Richard 24 20 25 25 27 4640
    15 24 With These Hands - Tom Jones 25 30 20 26 21 4300
    14 25 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 26 28 23 27 20 3935
    23 26 Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 27 22 27 30 23 3580
    NEW 27 Laugh At Me - Sonny 28 21 28 24 3450
    19 28 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 29 26 28 28 1805
    NEW 29 Universal Soldier (EP) - Donovan 30 27 29 1000
    22 30 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 29 26 925
    Help (LP) - The Beatles 23 23 21 2600
    Just A Little Bit Better - Herman's Hermits 29 400
    I Want Candy - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 30 30 335
    Hang On Sloopy - The McCoys 30 200
    Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 29 170

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 21st August 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 21st 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Help - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 2 4 2 2 2 18015
    6 3 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 4 3 3 4 6 17425
    24 4 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 3 2 6 3 4 17145
    3 5 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 5 5 4 5 3 16930
    11 6 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 6 8 5 8 5 15610
    4 7 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 7 6 8 6 7 15290
    10 8 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 8 7 7 7 9 15070
    19 9 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 11 9 9 9 14 13545
    5 10 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 9 11 11 11 8 12955
    9 11 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 10 10 12 10 10 12835
    13 12 Summer Nights - Marianne Faithfull 12 12 10 15 11 12350
    7 13 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 13 13 14 12 12 11365
    8 14 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 14 14 16 14 13 10380
    12 15 With These Hands - Tom Jones 15 19 13 13 15 10060
    18 16 See My Friend - The Kinks 16 15 15 16 16 9975
    20 17 Don't Make My Baby Blue - The Shadows 17 17 17 18 17 8790
    NEW 18 What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 18 18 19 20 21 7550
    14 19 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 19 23 18 21 18 6955
    NEW 20 That's The Way - The Honeycombs 21 21 20 22 24 6245
    27 21 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 22 15 23 23 29 6170
    16 22 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 23 28 22 25 19 4470
    21 23 Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 25 20 26 30 22 4315
    NEW 24 Make It Easy On Yourself - The Walker Brothers 27 25 28 17 3350
    17 25 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 28 21 23 3180
    15 26 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 26 25 24 20 3135
    23 27 Say You're My Girl - Roy Orbison 24 29 24 27 26 2975
    29 28 I Want Candy - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 29 27 26 25 2010
    30 29 Like We Used To Be - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 22 1800
    NEW 30 All I Really Want To Do - Cher 26 30 1250
    Help (LP) - The Beatles 20 24 19 2600
    The Time In Between - Cliff Richard 30 27 28 1100
    This World Is Not My Home - Jim Reeves 29 27 840
    Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 28 255
    Do You Love That Girl - Johnny Carr and The Cadillacs 30 200
    Like A Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan 29 200
    I'm Alive - The Hollies 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 14th August 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 14th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Help - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 2 2 2 2 3 18330
    3 3 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 3 3 3 3 2 17865
    5 4 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 4 4 6 4 5 16560
    4 5 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 5 6 4 6 4 16545
    12 6 Everyone's Gone To the Moon - Jonathan King 6 5 5 5 7 16340
    7 7 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 7 7 8 8 8 14805
    6 8 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 8 8 9 9 6 14425
    14 9 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 9 9 12 7 9 13420
    18 10 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 10 11 10 10 12 12965
    16 11 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 12= 13 7 13 14 12845
    10 12 With These Hands - Tom Jones 11 10 11 11 13 12730
    15 13 Summer Nights - Marianne Faithfull 12= 12 13 12 10 11985
    11 14 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 15 14 14 15 15 10610
    8 15 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 14 16 15 14 11 10400
    13 16 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 16 15 18 19 17 8840
    9 17 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 17 21 17 16 16 8275
    NEW 18 See My Friend - The Kinks 18 18 16 18 24 8245
    NEW 19 All I Really Want To Do - The Byrds 20 19 19 20 26 6925
    29 20 Don't Make My Baby Blue - The Shadows 19 22 20 21 20 6485
    23 21 Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 22 19 21 22 25 6310
    22 22 This World Is Not My Home - Jim Reeves 23 22 23 24 22 5265
    21 23 Say You're My Girl - Roy Orbison 24 27 22 25 23 4330
    NEW 24 I Got You Babe - Sonny and Cher 27 17 29 27 30 3785
    17 25 I'm Alive - The Hollies 25 28 25 28 18 3505
    19 26 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 26 29 24 30 19 3270
    30 27 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 29 25 28 26 2450
    20 28 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 28 26 21 2100
    NEW 29 I Want Candy - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 30= 27 29 28 1455
    NEW 30 Like We Used To Be - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 24 1400
    Help (LP) - The Beatles 21 26 17 2400
    That's The Way - The Honeycombs 30= 23 800
    Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 27 340
    I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 30 250
    What's New Pussycat - Tom Jones 30 200
    Leave A Little Love - Lulu 29 170

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 7th August 1965.

    I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when an EP placed on the Averaged Singles Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.
    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 7th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Help - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    3 2 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 2 2 2 2 3 18330
    4 3 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 3 3 3 3 4 17695
    2 4 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 4 4 4 4 2 17315
    9 5 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 5 5 5 5 7 16340
    5 6 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 6 6 7 6 5 15710
    7 7 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 7 7 6 7 8 15405
    6 8 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 8 8 8 8 6 14775
    8 9 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 9 10 10 9 9 13520
    15 10 With These Hands - Tom Jones 10 11 11 12 13 12430
    11 11 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sam and The Pharaohs 13 13 9 17 11 12200
    26 12 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 12 9 13 10 18 12105
    12 13 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 11 12 12 13 12 11965
    19 14 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 14 14 14 11 20 10585
    23 15 Summer Nights - Marianne Faithfull 15 17 15 14 15 9860
    22 16 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 17 16 16 16 19 9270
    10 17 I'm Alive - The Hollies 16 19 17 19 10 8885
    30 18 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 18 15 18 15 22 8815
    13 19 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 19 21 20 23 14 6995
    14 20 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 20 23 19 24 16 6575
    24 21 Say You're My Girl - Roy Orbison 22 22 21 21 26 5725
    25 22 This World Is Not My Home - Jim Reeves 21 20 24 20 24 5645
    28 23 Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 23 18 25 18 29 5570
    17 24 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 24 29 22 28 17 4140
    16 25 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 25 25 27 22 * 1 3644
    20 26 Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 26 28 23 27 25 3510
    18 27 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 27 26 26 21 2600
    21 28 Goodbyeee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 28 28 29 23 1630
    NEW 29 Don't Make My Baby Blue - The Shadows 29 26 25 1600
    NEW 30 Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers 30 24 1400
    I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 29 27 840
    Cry To Me - The Pretty Things 27 800
    She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 28 255
    See My Friend - The Kinks 30 250
    Like We Used To Be - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 30 200
    I Want Candy - Brian Poole And The Tremeloes 30 100
    Colours - Donovan 30 85
    Last edited by MrTibbs; Thu August 6, 2020, 19:44.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 31st July 1965.

    As suggested by Graham I have added for fun the EP chart position on the RR EP Chart when it placed on the Averaged Chart.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's from the Singles Chart, but it appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 31st 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    NEW 1 Help - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 5 18710
    1 2 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 2 2 2 2 1 18500
    6 3 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 3 3 3 3 3 17780
    11 4 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 4 4 4 4 6 16975
    3 5 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 5 5 5 5 4 16595
    2 6 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 6 6 6 6 2 16215
    8 7 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 7 7 7 7 10 14985
    5 8 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 8 8 8 9 8 14505
    16 9 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 9 9 9 8 11 13900
    4 10 I'm Alive - The Hollies 10 12 10 10 7 13190
    13 11 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 11 11 12 13 12 12165
    15 12 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 12 10 13 11 16 11975
    7 13 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 13 13 11 14 14 11745
    9 14 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 14 15 14 16 9 10820
    18 15 With These Hands - Tom Jones 15 14 15 12 17 10490
    14 16 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 16 17 16 17 * 2 9174
    10 17 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 17 18 18 20 13 8480
    12 18 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 18 22 19 19 15 7360
    24 19 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 19 16 22 15 29 7020
    19 20 Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 21 28 17 26 19 5620
    17 21 Goodbyeee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 20 27 20 22 18 5555
    NEW 22 A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 23 20 25 21 28 4955
    NEW 23 Summer Nights - Marianne Faithfull 24 24 23 24 24 4695
    29 24 Say You're My Girl - Roy Orbison 25 23 21 27 30 4585
    30 25 This World Is Not My Home - Jim Reeves 22 25 27 18 22 4265
    NEW 26 Everyone's Gone To The Moon - Jonathan King 26 19 23 3200
    21 27 She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 27 24 30 21 2700
    NEW 28 Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 28 21 25 2600
    28 29 I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 30 26 25 1760
    NEW 30 Zorba's Dance - Marcello Minerbi 29 29 28 1200
    Cry To Me - The Pretty Things 26 29 1200
    Colours - Donovan 28 26 1175
    The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 29 20 935
    On My Word - Cliff Richard 23 680
    Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 27 340
    I Want Candy - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 30 250
    Like We Used To Be - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 30 200

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Let me think on that suggestion Graham . Just in from work hence why running a bit late.

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 24th July 1965.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's, but appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 24th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    2 2 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    5 3 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 3 3 3 3 3 17780
    3 4 I'm Alive - The Hollies 4 6 4 5 4 16645
    8 5 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 5= 5 5 6 9 16070
    17 6 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 5= 4 7 4 10 15885
    4 7 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 7 9 6 7 6 15175
    14 8 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 8 8 8 8 11 14350
    6 9 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 9 10 10 10 5 13760
    7 10 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 10 11 9 11 7 13540
    NEW 11 We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 11 7 11 9 17 13190
    9 12 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 12 15 12 12 8 11805
    15 13 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sham and The Pharaohs 13 12 14 14 13 11280
    10 14 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 14 14 13 13 * 11205
    21 15 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 15 13 15 15 18 10305
    NEW 16 Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 17 16 16 18 23 8730
    20 17 Goodbyeee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 16 19 17 17 19 8320
    24 18 With These Hands - Tom Jones 18 17 20 16 21 7900
    25 19 Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 21= 18 23 23 22 6165
    13 20 Got Live If You Want It (EP) - The Rolling Stones 20 22 21 21 * 6125
    19 21 She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quintet 21= 28 18 24 16 5825
    12 22 Colours - Donovan 19 19 19 12 5815
    11 23 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 23 22 22 15 4510
    NEW 24 In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 25 24 28 20 3250
    16 25 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 24 24 14 3195
    18 26 On My Word - Cliff Richard 28 29 25 28 20 3135
    28 27 Cry To Me - The Pretty Things 27 20 26 28 2955
    27 28 I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 26 25 27 24 2795
    NEW 29 Say You're My Girl - Roy Orbison 30 21 30 2100
    NEW 30 This World Is Not My Home - Jim Reeves 29 26 30 25 1850
    Too Many Rivers - Brenda Lee 23 29 1800
    Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 29 26 25 1760
    A Walk In The Black Forest - Horst Jankowski 26 27 1400
    A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 29 500
    The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 26 425
    Set Me Free - The Kinks 27 340
    I Want Candy - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 30 200
    Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 29 170
    Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 30 85

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  • Graham76man
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    Brian you could add the RR EP chart positions for those EP included in the other charts. As a way around filling the gaps in data. Not saying add all the RR EP chart positions in the data. As soon as they go missing from the other charts you would stop using the RR EP chart.
    Just a thought

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 17th July 1965.

    * Denotes an average score awarded as RR excluded EP's, but appeared in all 3 other music paper charts.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 17th 1965 NME MM DISC RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    5 1 Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds 1 1 1 1 3 18880
    4 2 Heart Full Of Soul - The Yardbirds 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    1 3 I'm Alive - The Hollies 3 3 3 3 1 17950
    2 4 Crying In The Chapel - Elvis Presley 4 5 4 4 5 16860
    10 5 Tossing And Turning - The Ivy League 5 4 5 5 7 16540
    6 6 To Know You Is To Love You - Peter and Gordon 6 6 6 6 6 15875
    3 7 Looking Through The Eyes Of Love - Gene Pitney 7 8 7 7 4 15295
    13 8 In The Middle Of Nowhere - Dusty Springfield 8 7 8 8 10 14635
    8 9 Leave A Little Love - Lulu 9 9 10 9 8 13805
    7 10 The One In The Middle (EP) - Manfred Mann 10 10 9 10 * 13619
    11 11 The Price Of Love - The Everly Brothers 11 15 12 11 9 11820
    9 12 Colours - Donovan 12 13 13 12 11 11700
    12 13 Got Live If You Want It (EP) - The Rolling Stones 13= 14 11 16 * 11379
    23 14 There But For Fortune - Joan Baez 15 12 14 15 16 10925
    18 15 Wooly Bully - Sam The Sam and The Pharaohs 13= 11 16 14 14 10895
    14 16 Anyway Anyhow Anywhere - The Who 16 17 15 17 12 9815
    27 17 You've Got Your Troubles - The Fortunes 17 16 21 13 18 8405
    16 18 On My Word - Cliff Richard 18 22 17 18 13 8130
    19 19 She's About A Mover - The Sir Douglas Quinted 19 26 18 20 15 6710
    24 20 Goodbyeee - Peter Cook and Dudley Moore 20 18 22 26 19 6370
    NEW 21 He's Got No Love - The Searchers 22 19 23 19 5600
    15 22 Long Live Love - Sandie Shaw 21 19 22 17 5090
    17 23 The Clapping Song - Shirley Ellis 24 20 25 21 4200
    NEW 24 With These Hands - Tom Jones 25 21 26 23 4050
    NEW 25 Let The Water Run Down - P J Proby 23 25 27 21 24 3795
    20 26 Set Me Free - The Kinks 27 24 20 2685
    29 27 I Can't Help Myself - The Four Tops 26 23 27 23 2680
    NEW 28 Cry To Me - The Pretty Things 29= 20 2200
    25 29 A World Of Our Own - The Seekers 29= 25 26 1925
    22 30 From The Bottom Of My Heart - The Moody Blues 28 24 25 1910
    Help Me Rhonda - The Beach Boys 28 28 29 1520
    Trains And Boats And Planes - Burt Bacharach 29= 29 22 1265
    We Gotta Get Out Of This Place - The Animals 27 28 1100
    In Thoughts Of You - Billy Fury 24 700
    The Ballad Of Spotty Muldoon - Peter Cook 29 400
    Maggie's Farm - Bob Dylan 27 340
    Marie - The Bachelors 30 30 335
    Catch Us If You Can - The Dave Clark Five 30 30 300
    It's Just A Little Bit Too Late - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 28 255
    That's The Way Love Goes - Charles Dickens 29 200

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