The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[Robbie]

Goodness, the constituent charts are all over the place! Other than the top 3 the UAC and the BBC charts are close together but at least the UAC number 1 is number 1 in two of the charts. It's very close between the top 3 though.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 24th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 24th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Travellin' Light - Cliff Richard					1	2	1	1	1	6375
2	2	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin					2	1	2	2	2	6310
4	3	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					3	2	3	7	3	5915
8	4	Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde					4=	4	6	5	4	5690
7	5	The Three Bells - The Browns					4=	6	4	4	5	5595
3	6	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					6	5	7	3	6	5550
5	7	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					7	7	5	6	7	5275
6	8	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					8	8	8	8	10	4825
9	9	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					8=	10	9	9	12	4475
19	10	Makin' Love - Floyd Robinson					8=	13	11	16	8	4105
15	11	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra					11=	10	16	12	13	4035
10	12	Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan					13	9	14	18	11	4030
18	13	Red River Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					14	12	13	19	9	3915
12	14	Someone - Johnny Mathis					11=	14	10	10	17	3795
11	15	Just A Little Too Much / Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson					15=	17	15	11	14	3530
14	16	Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy					15=	16	12	13	16	3500
13	17	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka					17=	15	18	17	18	3065
16	18	China Tea - Russ Conway					17=	18	17	14	19	2950
17	19	Peggy Sue Got Married - Buddy Holly					19	19		15	15	2580
NEW	20	One More Sunrise (Morgen) - Dickie Valentine					20	20	19			1245
RE	21	The Three Bells - Les Compagnons De La Chanson						21				750
24	22	Somethin' Else - Eddie Cochran						22				675
NEW	23	Mr Blue - Mike Preston									20	660
23	24	Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Music Of The Mountains						23				600
21	25	The Heart Of A Man - Frankie Vaughan						30		20		570
26	26	I Know - Perry Como						24				525
27	27	But Not For Me - Ella Fitzgerald						25				450
20	27	Sleep Walk - Santo and Johnny						25				450
NEW	29	The Riddle Of Love - Craig Douglas							20			385
NEW	30	Old Shep - Clinton Ford						27				300
		Treble Chance - Joe 'Mr Piano' Henderson						28				225
24		I Want To Walk You Home - Fats Domino						29				150
22		Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis
27		Lonesome - Chris Barber
27		Plenty Good Lovin' - Connie Francis

[MrTibbs]

It's only right that the two 'first ladies' of jazz, Sarah Vaughan and Ella Fitzgerald, appear on the chart with both delivering stunning performances. I'm not normally into jazz as a genre but I hugely admire and enjoy these two legends with their honeyed silk voices. Timeless.

Who are they ?, the 'now' generation ask. Take a listen and enjoy pure class music. Magnifigue !

[Splodj]

Here Comes Summer falls from 1 to 6 in BBC, as if in recognition they backed the wrong horse last week.

[MrTibbs]

This week it's NME that's the odd man out denying Cliff Richard #1 and it can't be blamed on 'Dynamite' splitting the sides this week as it has left the NME chart. That said Disc again this week continues to have some 'out of touch' positions too.

[Splodj]

I believe this is one of only 3 occasions pre-BMRB when there was an untied 'Official' Number One for 2 or more weeks that did not top any other chart.

The others being 'Its All In The Game' (3 weeks) and 'Three Steps To Heaven' (2 weeks).

[braindeadpj]

While the BBC Chart has 3 8's there are actually no tied songs at that position pointswise. Mona Lisa is 9 (40) and Makin' Love is 10 (48).

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending October 31st 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending October 31st 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Travellin' Light - Cliff Richard (A)					1	1	1	1	1	6450
2	2	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin					2	2	2	2	2	6235
4	3	Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde					3	3	4	3	4	5925
3	4	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					4	4	3	5	3	5855
13	5	Red River Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					6	5	6	10	5	5330
6	6	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					7	6	8	7	7	5200
5	7	The Three Bells - The Browns					5	10	5	4	6	5200
7	8	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					8	8	10	6	8	4965
11	9	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra					9	9	7	9	10	4740
12	10	Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan					11	7	13	15	11	4350
10	11	Makin' Love - Floyd Robinson					10	13	9	13	9	4250
NEW	12	Put Your Head On My Shoulder - Paul Anka					12=	11	14	14	14	3880
8	13	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					12=	15	15	8	15	3755
9	14	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					14	14	11	11	18	3655
NEW	15	What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates					15	12	12		12	3230
19	16	Peggy Sue Got Married - Buddy Holly					16	17	19	20	16	2865
20	17	One More Sunrise (Morgen) - Dickie Valentine					18	17	16		20	2235
16	18	Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy					19	16	20	18		2095
14	19	Someone - Johnny Mathis					16	22	18	12		1985
15	20	Just A Little Too Much / Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson						20		17		1455
RE	21	I Want To Walk You Home - Fats Domino						19	17			1390
23	22	Mr Blue - Mike Preston					20	29			13	1230
17	23	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka						27		16		975
NEW	24	Teen Beat - Sandy Nelson									17	840
NEW	25	Mr Blue - David Macbeth						30			19	795
18	26	China Tea - Russ Conway						30		19		615
27	27	Sleep Walk - Santo and Johnny						23				600
NEW	28	Poison Ivy - The Coasters						24				525
22	29	Somethin' Else - Eddy Cochran						25				450
21	29	The Three Bells - Les Compagnons De La Chanson						25				450
		Primrose Lane - Dickie Pride						28				225
		Dynamite - Cliff Richard (B)						21				750
24		Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Music Of The Mountains
25		The Heart Of A Man - Frankie Vaughan
26		I Know - Perry Como
27		But Not For Me - Ella Fitzgerald
29		The Riddle Of Love - Craig Douglas
30		Old Shep - Clinton Ford

[MrTibbs]

It's strange because earlier in the year the chart welcomed The Fleetwoods with Come Softly To Me despite strong competition but now two cover versions chart and The Fleetwoods' superior version of Mr Blue will be totally overlooked.

[Splodj]

It's strange because earlier in the year the chart welcomed The Fleetwoods with Come Softly To Me despite strong competition but now two cover versions chart and The Fleetwoods' superior version of Mr Blue will be totally overlooked.

On 10-Oct POTP had fairly featured all 3 versions as new releases, but in other programmes the two UK covers may have been given more attention.

[braindeadpj]

The numbering on the 31st October chart skips position 26. Presumably it should be 26, 27, 28, 29, 29 rather than 27, 28, 29, 30, 30?

[MrTibbs]

Hmmm, yeah those are out of sequence. Sorted to 26, 27, 28, 29, 29. Odd the auto sort didn't fix that .

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending November 7th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending November 7th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Travellin' Light - Cliff Richard (A)					1	1	1	1	1	6450
2	2	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin					2	2	2	2	2	6235
3	3	Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde					3	3	3	3	3	6020
5	4	Red River Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					4	4	5	5	4	5725
4	5	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					5	5	4	6	5	5580
7	6	The Three Bells - The Browns					6	8	6	4	6	5315
15	7	What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates					7=	7	7	10	9	4905
9	8	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra					7=	6	8	7	12	4900
11	9	Makin' Love - Floyd Robinson					9	11	9	8	7	4745
12	10	Put Your Head On My Shoulder - Paul Anka					10	9	11	12	8	4585
10	11	Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan					11	10	10	17	10	4200
6	12	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					12	12	12	15	11	4010
8	13	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					13	13	16	11	16	3675
14	14	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					15	14	14	14	17	3475
13	15	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					14	17	13	9	18	3450
21	16	I Want To Walk You Home - Fats Domino					16	14	15	19	19	3095
17	17	One More Sunrise (Morgen) - Dickie Valentine					18	16		16	20	2460
22	18	Mr Blue - Mike Preston					19=	20	20		13	2290
19	19	Someone - Johnny Mathis					17	19	19	13		2130
25	20	Mr Blue - David Macbeth					19=	18			14	1995
24	21	Teen Beat - Sandy Nelson						28			14	1245
18	22	Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy							17	20		985
16	23	Peggy Sue Got Married - Buddy Holly						25	18			905
26	24	China Tea - Russ Conway						20				825
27	25	Sleep Walk - Santo and Johnny						22				675
NEW	26	Morgen - Ivo Robic						23				600
23	27	Lonely Boy - Paul Anka								18		585
NEW	28	Mack The Knife - Louis Armstrong						24				525
RE	29	Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Music Of The Mountains						27				300
28	30	Poison Ivy - The Coasters						29				150
		Little Donkey - Gracie Fields						30				75
		Dynamite - Cliff Richard (B)						26
20		Just A Little Too Much / Sweeter Than You - Ricky Nelson
29		Somethin' Else - Eddie Cochran
29		The Three Bells - Les Compagnons De La Chanson

[Robbie]

All charts are in agreement for the top 3.

Manuel (Geoff Love) makes his chart debut. Famously he was number 1 for 3 hours in 1976 when a BMRB computer error placed 'Rodrigo's Guitar Concerto De Aranjuez' at number 1 at 11am on Tuesday 17 February 1976. After the BMRB discovered a computation error, the chart was rerun and the single was placed at number 3 with 'December 1963 (Oh What A Night)' by The Four Seasons taking his place at number 1.

[MrTibbs]

All charts are in agreement for the top 3.

Manuel (Geoff Love) makes his chart debut. Famously he was number 1 for 3 hours in 1976 when a BMRB computer error placed 'Rodrigo's Guitar Concerto De Aranjuez' at number 1 at 11am on Tuesday 17 February 1976. After the BMRB discovered a computation error, the chart was rerun and the single was placed at number 3 with 'December 1963 (Oh What A Night)' by The Four Seasons taking his place at number 1.

I actually liked the above disc a lot. It was a nice tune. Strangely it went to #1 on MM and didn't get demoted.

So I wonder if it's 3 hour reign still qualifies it as an 'official' #1

[braindeadpj]

Manuel and the Music of the Mountains is actually a re-entry. The last week positions for China Tea, Sleep Walk, and Poison Ivy all reflect the chart with position 26 missing.

[MrTibbs]

Manuel and the Music of the Mountains is actually a re-entry. The last week positions for China Tea, Sleep Walk, and Poison Ivy all reflect the chart with position 26 missing.

Thanks David those are duly corrected above and on the master spreadsheet.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending November 14th 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending November 14th 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Travellin' Light - Cliff Richard					1	1	1	1	1	6450
2	2	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin					2	2	2	2	2	6235
4	3	Red River Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					3	3	3	4	3	5975
3	4	Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde					4	5	4	3	4	5775
7	5	What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates					5	4	6	5	5	5630
5	6	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					6	6	5	9	6	5275
9	7	Makin' Love - Floyd Robinson					7	9	7	7	8	4950
10	8	Put Your Head On My Shoulder - Paul Anka					8	8	8	10	7	4915
8	9	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra					9	10	13	6	9	4650
6	10	The Three Bells - The Browns					10	11	10	8	11	4470
11	11	Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan					11	7	9	20	10	4325
18	12	Mr Blue - Mike Preston					12	12	12	12	12	4085
17	13	One More Sunrise (Morgen) - Dickie Valentine					13	16	14	11	14	3640
NEW	14	Oh Carol - Neil Sedaka					14	13	11		17	2890
12	15	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller					16	14		19	15	2775
16	16	I Want To Walk You Home - Fats Domino					17	22	16	15	19	2640
15	17	Living Doll - Cliff Richard					15	15	15	13		2570
13	18	Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas					17	19	17	14		2155
21	19	Teen Beat - Sandy Nelson					19	18			13	2055
NEW	20	Snow Coach - Russ Conway						24	18		16	1880
14	21	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty					20	17		16		1725
NEW	22	Rawhide - Frankie Laine						25			18	1230
NEW	23	Always - Sammy Turner						30	19		20	1155
24	24	China Tea - Russ Conway						21	20			1135
19	25	Someone - Johnny Mathis						28		17		855
30	26	Poison Ivy - The Coasters						20				825
20	27	Mr Blue - David Macbeth						23				600
NEW	28	Count On Me - Shirley Bassey								18		585
NEW	29	Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat - The Avons						26				375
29	30	Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Music Of The Mountains						27				300
23		Peggy Sue Got Married - Buddy Holly						29				150
22		Forty Miles Of Bad Road - Duane Eddy
25		Sleep Walk - Santo and Johnny
26		Morgen - Ivo Robic
27		Lonely Boy - Paul Anka
28		Mack The Knife - Louis Armstrong

[braindeadpj]

* Again the BBC manuscript is wrong. Craig should be 17 on points 71 and Fats 18 on 72 points.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you about this. I suspect you forgot that the BBC chart is compiled using only the NME Top 20 so Fats gets 21 'points' for being outside the Top 20 and not 22 (its actual NME position), so both songs are on 71 points at equal 17. Surprisingly the BBC chart has been correct for the past 3 charts.

[MrTibbs]

Yeah sometimes when the NME position is in front of you your mind absorbs that in the calculation. It again just highlights the strange system the BBC adopted with the 'position 21' scenario, all equal when they couldn't be.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending November 21st 1959

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending November 21st 1959								NME	MM	DISC	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey					75	35	45	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart				BBC			TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Travellin' Light - Cliff Richard					1	1	1	1	1	6450
2	2	Mack The Knife - Bobby Darin					2	2	2	2	4	6115
3	3	Red River Rock - Johnny and The Hurricanes					3	4	3	4	2	5960
5	4	What Do You Want To Make Those Eyes At Me For - Emile Ford and The Checkmates					4	3	6	3	3	5915
4	5	Sea Of Love - Marty Wilde					5	6	5	5	5	5515
6	6	('Til) I Kissed You - The Everly Brothers					6	5	4	9	6	5385
8	7	Put Your Head On My Shoulder - Paul Anka					7	7	9	7	7	5090
14	8	Oh Carol - Neil Sedaka					8	10	7	13	8	4605
7	9	Makin' Love - Floyd Robinson					9	11	8	6	14	4450
10	10	The Three Bells - The Browns					10=	9	11	12	12	4345
12	11	Mr Blue - Mike Preston					10=	17	10	8	9	4140
9	12	High Hopes - Frank Sinatra					12	8	17	11	15	4075
11	13	Broken-Hearted Melody - Sarah Vaughan					14	11	15	19	12	3740
20	14	Snow Coach - Russ Conway					13	15	14	17	10	3685
19	15	Teen Beat - Sandy Nelson					15	16	16	15	11	3570
13	16	One More Sunrise (Morgen) - Dickie Valentine					17	14		10	17	3060
17	17	Living Doll - Ciff Richard					16	13	12	14		2780
26	18	Poison Ivy - The Coasters					18	18	13		20	2265
29	19	Seven Little Girls Sitting In The Back Seat - The Avons					19	23		16	16	2175
22	20	Rawhide - Frankie Laine						21	19		19	1890
NEW	21	What Do You Want - Adam Faith					20	18			18	1755
15	22	Here Comes Summer - Jerry Keller						21		18		1335
NEW	23	More And More Party Pops - Russ Conway						25	20			835
23	24	Always - Sammy Turner						26	18			830
NEW	25	Little Donkey - The Beverly Sisters						20				825
27	26	Mr Blue - David Macbeth						23				600
21	27	Mona Lisa - Conway Twitty						30		20		570
NEW	28	The Village Of St. Bernadette - Anne Shelton						27				300
NEW	29	Little Donkey - Gracie Fields						28				225
NEW	30	Nashville Boogie - Bert Weedon						29				150
16		I Want To Walk You Home - Fats Domino
18		Only Sixteen - Craig Douglas
24		China Tea - Russ Conway
25		Someone - Johnny Mathis
28		Count On Me - Shirley Bassey
30		Honeymoon Song - Manuel and The Musoic Of The Mountains

[Robbie]

The top 2 lockdown is finally broken in Record Mirror.

[Splodj]

the BBC chart is compiled using only the NME Top 20

Were they right to do this? My view is that if the NME 21-30 positions are there you may as well use them.

But it could be argued that as the others are only 20s it is fairer to treat everything below 20 equally. As I understand it the UAC itself uses this principle when the boot is on the other foot, so to speak, and NME is the smallest chart. Although I suppose you could say there is a stronger case for ignoring positions 31-50 (as being less reliable) than 21-30.

Anyway ... with the final two number ones now in the chart I am beginning to get a bit sad that the end is nigh.

[kingofskiffle]

Anyway ... with the final two number ones now in the chart I am beginning to get a bit sad that the end is nigh.

Yes - but what a mammoth project it’s been!

[MrTibbs]

The top 2 lockdown is finally broken in Record Mirror.

I reckon Bobby Darin must have come pretty close on at least some of these weeks.

[MrTibbs]

Yes we are almost there with just 5 charts to go but it will last a few charts longer because like I promised I will then post all the applicable end of year 'bridging' charts where one was not compiled to give a more definitive UAE.

Yeah this project has been a Herculean task like you say, 2 years of daily pouring over music paper charts, deliberating, correcting errors and inconsisties, compiling them and checking them before daily postings.
But, it has been such a pleasure to undertake and Im so glad I did. The experience was made all the better by having 24+ guys following my chart child from birth in the mid fifties to 1969 every day of its life.

I believe I leave something unique and hope you agree.