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  • Robbie
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    I agree with you MrTibbs, Cilla's version of 'Anyone Who Had a Heart' was the better version. I'm sure I once read that Dionne Warwick wasn't happy that there was a competing version in the UK which she ultimately lost out to. I also agree that the Righteous Brothers version of 'You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'' is by far the better version. I was too young to follow the charts in 1964 (being only a few months old!) so nearly all my knowledge of the 1960s charts stems from when I bought the Tony Jasper book in 1976. I remember noticing that Cilla's version had the head start but that the Righteous Brothers version quickly overtook it. And rightly so as it's one of the all-time great singles (in my opinion of course!). It didn't occur to me back then (in 1976) that the BBC must have been plugging Cilla's version instead of the original.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Yeah Splodj, I also remember it was Cilla Black's version that was plugged on the BBC, just the same as how Cilla's Anyone Who Had A Heart was, and I also remember it was a headline on the BBC News the week it went to No 1. I'm going to be controversial here lol and have all the puritans up in arms, but I really do think Cilla's version of 'Heart' was way superior to Dionne's. BUT the Righteous Brothers 'Feelin', is without a shadow of a doubt way superior in every way.
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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! I've been working all day and just arrived home, but worry ye not. Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 30 for Week Ending 30th January 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 30th 1965 BBC NME MM Disc RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart Number Of Chart Positions 30 Scored
    1 1 Go Now - The Moody Blues 1 1 2 1 1 18800
    15 2 You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - The Righteous Brothers 2 2 1 2 3 18580
    8 3 You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - Cilla Black 3= 5 4 7 2 16815
    9 4 Come Tomorrow - Manfred Mann 3= 4 5 4 5 16810
    18 5 Tired Of Waiting For You - The Kinks 3= 3 6 3 6 16775
    2 6 Yeh Yeh - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 6 7 3 6 4 16595
    5 7 Cast Your Fate To To The Wind - Sounds Orchestral 7 6 7 5 10 15385
    3 8 Terry - Twinkle 8 8 8 8 7 14690
    4 9 Girl Don't Come - Sandie Shaw 9 11 10 9 8 13405
    7 10 Ferry Cross The Mersey - Gerry and The Pacemakers 10 12 9 10 9 13270
    16 11 Keep Searchin' - Del Shannon 11 9 12 11 12 12765
    12 12 Baby Please Don't Go - Them 12 10 11 13 11 12700
    6 13 I Feel Fine - The Beatles 13 13 13 12 13 11530
    10 14 Somewhere - P J Proby 14 15 14 14 14 10595
    11 15 Downtown - Petula Clark 15 19 15 15 16 9275
    21 16 The Three Bells - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 16 16 17 16 17 9190
    28 17 The Special Years - Val Doonican 17 14 21 18 21 8050
    24 18 Leader Of The Pack - The Shangri-Las 18 17 20 19 20 7685
    22 19 I'm Lost Without You - Billy Fury 20 21 18 17 24 7245
    13 20 Walk Tall - Val Doonican 19 25 16 22 15 7210
    27 21 I'll Never Find Another You - The Seekers 21 18 23 21 19 6620
    14 22 I Could Easily Fall - Cliff Richard 23 27 19 23 18 5705
    20 23 No Arms Can Ever Hold You - The Bachelors 25 22 29 22 3215
    NEW 24 What In The World's Come Over You - The Rockin' Berries 24 24 27 24 3100
    29 25 Getting Mighty Crowded - Betty Everett 26 20 26 29 2870
    NEW 26 Promised Land - Chuck Berry 27 26 28 27 26 2575
    19 27 I'm Gonna Be Strong - Gene Pitney 28= 24 23 2430
    NEW 28 Dance Dance Dance - The Beach Boys 28= 23 29 28 2400
    17 29 What Have They Done To The Rain - The Searchers 28= 25 30 25 2110
    23 30 I Understand - Freddie and The Dreamers 26 28 1505
    The Rolling Stones (LP) No 2 - The Rolling Stones 22 22 20 2900
    Come See About Me - The Supremes 28 25 1200
    Whatcha Gonna Do About It - Doris Troy 29 400
    Baby I Need Your Loving - The Fourmost 27 340
    Ringo - Lorne Green 30 250
    Yes I Will - The Hollies 30 200
    Genie With The Light Brown Lamp - The Shadows 30 85

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  • Graham76man
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    Pirate radio charts were of course all made up. There was of course some element of how many times a disc was being played. They would however get them weeks in advance of release. In fact in many cases the record once released had dropped out of the pirate chart.
    What we tend to forget is that the time TOTP played a record or showed a chart, it was already out of date. The effect of this was TOTP was playing a record that was collapsing in sales. I have monitored all of these charts, when doing now three years of 60's charts. And the number of times after a record has been on TOTP when a record should go up in sales, these charts show them falling down. It rarely happens on the full picture. But some of the charts record 10 place falls. Often the record leaves the top 30 and in doing so kills the sales completely. Remember the Sun article which said that the kids go for the thirty best sellers. So being removed when your record is in demand from a TV slot, is the death knell to a record.
    Each TOTP has the effect of pushing sales for two weeks of charts. The first is the Friday and Saturday push on the first chart. Then a full of week on the second chart, but on the decline as the week progresses, unless something else pushes the sales.
    But the pure fact of the matter is that there's a large list of records that were on TOTP that never make these published charts. Of course allowing for the fact that the biggest chart was only a 50, does take a few of them into account. Since even on the Real Chart, they fell short of 50. But most should have made the top 50 and simply didn't.
    I have come across one this week, in the 1967 chart from the New Christy Minstrels. On TOTP Thursday so in the chart, but only at 99. Next week gone when it should still be selling, despite lots of newspaper adds for the record, plus even more TV slots the week after been shown on TOTP.
    The reason for this wasn't the fact the record was rubbish in the public's eyes, but all down to supply. Even today the "stock" copy - sent out to shops is hardly available. And even on 45 Cat not one person owns it. Members commenting it was on TOTP, but asking even if it was released. This was however the exception to the rule. Most records making TOTP (as new releases) were well distributed.
    The sales at 99 were only 8,000, the equivalent to only one in one store for all the shops.

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  • Splodj
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    My memory of Lovin' Feelin' is that when it was released here the BBC played the Cilla Black version (because it was British!) and the pirates played the Righteous Brothers more. Caroline was being eclipsed by Radio London which on 31st January had the Righteous Brothers as their number one. Any record that got into their Fab 40 received a boost, in the same way that getting into the BBC Top 20 ensured exposure as a New Entry on TOTP and POTP.
    Last edited by Splodj; Tue July 14, 2020, 07:26.

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  • Graham76man
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    Brian I wasn't attacking your chart in any way. Simply comparing the two charts. The Real Chart isn't based on points like the other charts, but on the actual sales that were happening on the 7 days it covers. Some people don't accept the chart, but some people think the World is flat. I will argue with such people till I am blue in the face. But when we are and somebody asks what was the UK top 100 like on the 10 to 16 January 1965? On the other side! They will see the the same thing posted by me a few years ago.
    By the way that week fame clocked up 165,000 copies, a loss of 5k. In 1965 only he had sold 335,000 by then.
    The Moody Blues take it from him as in your chart, by selling 201,000. The Woolies version moves to 25. The Terry Brandon cover of the Manfred's hit was already at 60. Only a week after the Manfred song entered the chart! Showing how quick they liked to get the covers out!!

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 30 for Week Ending 23rd January 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 23rd 1965 BBC NME MM Disc RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart Number Of Chart Positions 30 Scored
    3 1 Go Now - The Moody Blues 1 1 1 1 2 18965
    1 2 Yeh Yeh - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 2 2 2 2 1 18500
    5 3 Terry - Twinkle 3 3 3 3 4 17695
    4 4 Girl Don't Come - Sandie Shaw 4 4 4 4 3 17230
    10 5 Cast Your Fate To The Wind - Sounds Orchestral 5 5 6 6 5 16160
    2 6 I Feel Fine - The Beatles 6 7 5 5 7 15940
    9 7 Ferry Cross The Mersey - Gerry and The Pacemakers 7 9 7 7 8 14755
    20 8 You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - Cilla Black 8 5 9 8 12 14615
    19 9 Come Tomorrow - Manfred Mann 9 8 8 9 14 13995
    6 10 Somewhere - P J Proby 10 12 11 10 6 13025
    7 11 Downtown - Petula Clark 11 14 10 11 10 12435
    16 12 Baby Please Don't Go - Them 12 11 13 12 11 12100
    8 13 Walk Tall - Val Doonican 13 15 12 13 9 11620
    11 14 I Could Easily Fall - Cliff Richard 14 18 14 15 13 9980
    30 15 You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - The Righteous Brothers 15 10 18 16 20 9885
    NEW 16 Keep Searchin' - Del Shannon 16 16 23 17 19 7420
    15 17 What Have They Done To The Rain - The Searchers 18 25 17 19 17 7090
    NEW 18 Tired Of Waiting For You - The Kinks 19 13 24 14 7050
    14 19 I'm Gonna Be Strong - Gene Pitney 17 29 16 18 15 6810
    12 20 No Arms Can Ever Hold You - The Bachelors 20 28 15 23 16 6675
    21 21 The Three Bells - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 21 20 20 25 21 6400
    25 22 I'm Lost Without You - Billy Fury 23= 17 22 22 29 6120
    13 23 I Understand - Freddie and The Dreamers 22 19 20 18 5205
    27 24 Leader Of The Pack - The Shangri-Las 25 19 26 21 27 4990
    18 25 Genie With The Light Brown Lamp - The Shadows 26 21 27 23 3580
    22 26 A Message To Martha - Adam Faith 27 25 22 2265
    NEW 27 I'll Never Find Another You - The Seekers 29 24 29 29 2100
    NEW 28 The Special Years - Val Doonican 22 1800
    NEW 29 Getting Mighty Crowded - Betty Everett 23 1600
    17 30 Little Red Rooster - The Rolling Stones 27 26 1425
    The Rolling Stones No 2 (LP) - The Rolling Stones 23= 21 24 2700
    Baby I Need Your Lovin' - The Fourmost 28 29 26 25 1410
    Ringo - Lorne Green 30 28 24 1345
    Dance Dance Dance - The Beach Boys 25 1200
    Promised Land - Chuck Berry 27 30 900
    Like A Child - Julie Rogers 30 28 30 635
    What In The World's Come Over You - The Rockin' Berries 29 400
    There's A Heartache Following Me - Jim Reeves 28 255

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks for that Dave. I appreciate your feedback and intend to keep this thread going.

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  • eurofandave
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    Brian,your Ultimate Averaged Chart really makes for very interesting and fascinating reading!! :-) Keep up your excellent work!!

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  • MrTibbs
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    I just factually report what all the four main music papers say Graham. I just take their positions, points, store returns and add them up and present the information in the Ultimate Average chart which by definition has to be the most accurate as it is based on what all the major music papers at the time say then I average it, and although they all vary a bit by a few places they are all by and large reflecting the same records on their charts.

    As nobody accurately knows the actual sales week on week for the time in question and that is well accepted, then the information reported in the four main music papers charts is the most factual we actually have to base charts around.

    No chart was perfect then, NME and Disc accepted advance orders, included LP's, NME and MM in particular were a target for hyping, RR had a ridiculous number of shop returns, so by averaging them all out, excluded many of the anomalies and smoothed the chart out by finding the centre ground. So therefore the most likely chart possible is the Ultimate Averaged Chart.

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  • Graham76man
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    I'm looking at the Real Chart for the above and the number 20 and 30 are way to high. Cilla being only 60. So some hyping going off there. In fact at the time Cilla's cover was attacked as destroying the better single from the Brothers, who were 41.
    Ruby and the Romantics down 8 to 28. Missing out also Marvin Gaye - How Sweet It Is - 23. Gunter Kallmann at 27. Dodie West 24. Matt Munro - For mama 22. Del Shannon 21.
    Woolies get a 31 entry with Jaybirds - Go Now
    Even the top ten has 4 wrong.
    Not in the top ten - your chart 5, 6, 7, 8.
    In the top ten - 14,15, 16, 22.
    Manfred Mann were in-between NME and Disc positions at 15.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 30 for Week Ending 16th January 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 16th 1965 BBC NME MM Disc RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart Number Of Chart Positions 30 Scored
    2 1 Yeh Yeh - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    1 2 I Feel Fine - The Beatles 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    11 3 Go Now - The Moody Blues 3 3 3 4 3 17680
    7 4 Girl Don't Come - Sandie Shaw 4 4 5 3 5 16910
    6 5 Terry - Twinkle 5 5 4 5 4 16845
    5 6 Somewhere - P J Proby 6 6 6 7 6 15775
    3 7 Downtown - Petula Clark 7 7 8 6 8 15005
    4 8 Walk Tall - Val Doonican 8 9 7 8 7 14740
    13 9 Ferry Cross The Mersey - Gerry and The Pacemakers 9 8 9 9 9 14170
    16 10 Cast Your Fate To The Wind - Sounds Orchestral 10 11 10 10 10 13135
    8 11 I Could Easily Fall - Cliff Richard 11 10 11 11 11 12900
    9 12 No Arms Can Ever Hold You - The Bachelors 12 12 12 13 13 11880
    12 13 I Understand - Freddie and The Dreamers 13 19 13 12 14 10245
    10 14 I'm Gonna Be Strong - Gene Pitney 14 18 14 15 12 10065
    14 15 What Have They Done To The Rain - The Searchers 15 16 15 14 15 10060
    27 16 Baby Please Don't Go - Them 16= 14 18 21 19 8670
    15 17 Little Red Rooster - The Rolling Stones 16= 20 17 17 18 8205
    18 18 Genie With The Light Brown Lamp - The Shadows 18 22 16 20 17 7840
    NEW 19 Come Tomorrow - Manfred Mann 19 14 23 16 26 7325
    NEW 20 You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - Cilla Black 24 17 20 25 28 6405
    29 21 The Three Bells - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 21 21 20 18 27 6390
    17 22 A Message To Martha - Adam Faith 20 27 19 19 16 6275
    20 23 There's A Heartache Following Me - Jim Reeves 22= 30 22 27 20 3785
    22 24 Like A Child - Julie Rogers 22= 28 24 26 21 3700
    26 25 I'm Lost Without You - Billy Fury 25= 13 30 3700
    28 26 Ringo - Lorne Green 25= 21 22 3265
    NEW 27 Leader Of The Pack - The Shangri-Las 27 23 22 2500
    30 28 Baby I Need Your Lovin' - The Fourmost 28 25 29 24 2295
    19 29 Pretty Paper - Roy Orbison 26 29 1420
    NEW 30 You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - The Righteous Brothers 24 1400
    Baby Love - The Supremes 30= 28 25 1260
    Dance Dance Dance - The Beach Boys 25 1200
    All Day And All Of The Night - The Kinks 29 29 23 1180
    Getting Mighty Crowded - Betty Everett 26 1000
    Walk Away - Matt Monro 27 1000
    Keep Searchin' - Del Shannon 30= 30 24 30 985
    I'll Never Find Another You - The Seekers 23 800
    Promised Land - Chuck Berry 29 400
    Goin' Out Of My Head - Dodie West 28 300

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  • MrTibbs
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    I type the titles into the spreadsheet and add the chart positions manually for each week Trevor then excell does the calculations.

    July 11th spelling amended.
    Last edited by MrTibbs; Sun July 12, 2020, 20:18.

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  • trebor
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    Brian:
    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending July 11th 1964
    > Non Ho L'Eta Per Amerti - Gigliola Cinquetti - (RR #30)

    Typo: "Amerti" should read "Amarti"

    Off-topic:

    Are you actually re-typing each chart entry by hand from scratch for every new update? ( Just inquiring nicely )

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 30 for Week Ending 9th January 1965.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 9th 1965 BBC NME MM Disc RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart Number Of Chart Positions 30 Scored
    1 1 I Feel Fine - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    6 2 Yeh Yeh - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    2 3 Downtown - Petula Clark 3 3 3 3 3 17780
    3 4 Walk Tall - Val Doonican 4 5 4 4 5 16860
    4 5 Somewhere - P J Proby 5 4 5 5 8 16455
    10 6 Terry - Twinkle 6 8 6 6 4 15645
    11 7 Girl Don't Come - Sandie Shaw 7 6 7 7 7 15440
    8 8 I Could Easily Fall - Cliff Richard 8 7 9 8 9 14470
    7 9 No Arms Can Ever Hold You - The Bachelors 10 10 8 10 11 13750
    5 10 I'm Gonna Be Strong - Gene Pitney 9 11 10 12 6 13275
    17 11 Go Now - The Moody Blues 11 9 12 9 10 13135
    9 12 I Understand - Freddie and The Dreamers 12 12 11 11 12 12415
    20 13 Ferry Cross The Mersey - Gerry and The Pacemakers 13= 13 14 14 14 10995
    15 14 What Have They Done To The Rain - The Searchers 13= 14 15 13 13 10730
    12 15 Little Red Rooster - The Rolling Stones 15 15 13 17 16 10375
    21 16 Cast Your Fate To The Wind - Sounds Orchestral 16 16 18 15 17 9040
    16 17 A Message To Martha - Adam Faith 17 18 17 16 15 8960
    18 18 Genie With The Light Brown Lamp - The Shadows 18 17 16 18 20 8785
    14 19 Pretty Paper - Roy Orbison 19 19 19 19 22 7365
    19 20 There's A Heartache Following Me - Jim Reeves 20 22 20 26 18 6155
    13 21 Blue Christmas - Elvis Presley 21 25 22 20 24 5145
    23 22 Like A Child - Julie Rogers 23 21 24 23 25 5060
    26 23 All Day And All Of The Night - The Kinks 22 26 23 24 19 4720
    22 24 Baby Love - The Supremes 25 27 25 27 21 3550
    24 25 Walk Away - Matt Monro 27 21 23 3180
    NEW 26 I'm Lost Without You - Billy Fury 26 20 22 3100
    NEW 27 Baby Please Don't Go - Them 28 23 25 2200
    NEW 28 Ringo - Lorne Green 29 26 26 1675
    NEW 29 The Three Bells - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 27 30 1100
    NEW 30 Baby I Need Your Loving - The Fourmost 30 28 27 1090
    Beatles For Sale (LP) - The Beatles 24 24 21 2400
    Goin' Out Of My Head - Dodie West 29 28 700
    Um Um Um Um Um Um - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 29 29 670
    Et Meme - Francoise Hardy 28 600
    Losing You - Dusty Springfield 30 28 505
    Goin' Out Of My Head - Little Anthony and The Imperials 30 200
    Tribute To Jim Reeves - Larry Cunningham 29 200
    Show Me Girl - Herman's Hermits 30 85

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  • MrTibbs
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    oops, sorry Robin, I have amended the chart for 26th December and added the column with points if you want to look back

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  • Splodj
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    One quality record that under-performed in the 'official' chart was The Girl From Ipanema. It was 3 weeks in the Ultimate Chart peaking at 21, despite the best efforts of RR to drag it down. It only peaked at 29 in RR after it had left the other Top 30s!

  • Robbie
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    Originally posted by Splodj View Post
    I don't think the BBC broadcast a chart for the last week of 1964, as they had Christmas specials looking back over the year.
    According to BBC Genome, the BBC project which lists all BBC radio and TV programmes from the 1920s to 2009, the Pick Of The Pops "review of the Hit Parade of 1964" was broadcast at 5pm on Sunday 20 December 1964 while the following Sunday lists a normal, weekly, chart show

    https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/light/1964-12-20

    https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/light/1964-12-27

    Interestingly from the first Sunday in 1965 Pick Of The Pops began to be broadcast an hour earlier, at 4pm

    https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/light/1965-01-03

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  • Splodj
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    I don't think the BBC broadcast a chart for the last week of 1964, as they had Christmas specials looking back over the year.

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  • RokinRobinOfLocksley
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    (Brian, you left off the points column for the last Dec 1964 chart...)

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart Top 30 for Week Ending 2nd January 1965.

    The BBC Chart didn't include the RR Chart for this week but the Ultimate Averaged Chart has included it.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 2nd 1965 BBC NME MM Disc RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart Number Of Chart Positions 30 Scored
    1 1 I Feel Fine - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 1 19050
    3 2 Downtown - Petula Clark 2 2 2 2 2 18415
    4 3 Walk Tall -Val Doonican 3 3 5 3 3 17280
    6 4 Somewhere - P J Proby 4 4 4 7 9 16420
    2 5 I'm Gonna Be Strong - Gene Pitney 6 6 6 5 4 16145
    11 6 Yeh Yeh - Georgie Fame and The Blue Flames 5 5 7 4 7 15940
    5 7 No Arms Can Ever Hold You - The Bachelors 7 8 3 8 8 15855
    8 8 I Could Easily Fall - Cliff Richard 8 7 8 6 6 15175
    7 9 I Understand - Freddie and The Dreamers 11 10 10 11 5 13660
    13 10 Terry - Twinkle 9 9 11 9 10 13385
    10 11 Girl Don't Come Come - Sandie Shaw 10 11 9 10 11 13300
    9 12 Little Red Rooster - The Rolling Stones 13 12 12 17 14 11395
    14 13 Blue Christmas - Elvis Presley 12 13 13 12 15 11360
    12 14 Pretty Paper - Roy Orbison 14 15 16 13 13 10280
    18 15 What Have They Done To The Rain - The Searchers 15 14 15 16 16 10175
    15 16 A Message To Martha - Adam Faith 17 17 17 15 12 9515
    20 17 Go Now - The Moody Blues 18 19 14 18 19 8970
    19 18 Genie With The Light Brown Lamp - The Shadows 16 16 19 14 24 8295
    16 19 There's A Heartache Following Me - Jim Reeves 19 18 18 26 21 7200
    27 20 Ferry Cross The Mersey - Gerry and The Pacemakers 20 20 24 22 22 5615
    23 21 Cast Your Fate To The Wind - Sounds Orchestral 22 24 23 21 17 5590
    17 22 Baby Love - The Supremes 25 27 21 24 18 5105
    25 23 Like A Child - Julie Rogers 24 22 25 25 20 4835
    22 24 Walk Away - Matt Monro 26 23 20 27 4690
    29 25 Christmas Will Be Just Another Lonely Day - Brenda Lee 23 21 26 23 25 4560
    21 26 All Day And All Of The Night - The Kinks 27 26 22 26 3675
    NEW 27 For Mama - Matt Monro 28 20 23 1780
    26 28 Losing You - Dusty Springfield 29 28 30 27 29 1420
    24 29 Um Um Um Um Um Um - Wayne Fontana and The Mindbenders 30 27 1000
    30 30 Tokyo Melody - Helmut Zacharias 28 750
    Beatles For Sale (LP) - The Beatles 21 24 19 2600
    Ringo - Lorne Green 29 30 585
    Mrs Mills' Party Medley - Mrs Mills 29 400
    Baby Please Don't Go - Them 28 300
    Baby I Need Your Loving - The Fourmost 28 255
    Et Meme - Francoise Hardy 30 200
    Tribute To Jim Reeves - Larry Cunningham 29 200
    Goin' Out Of My Head - Dodie West 30 100


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  • MrTibbs
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    Before I launch 1965 here are a few records that should have happened in '64 and criminally missed out grrrrr !

    Dawn (Go Away) - The Four Seasons
    You Don't Own Me - Lesley Gore
    Come A Little Bit Closer - Jay and The Americans
    Rod McKuen - The World I Used To Know
    Every Day I Have To Cry - Dusty Springfield (Should have really been a Single)
    It's Alright - The Impressions
    Baby I Need Your Loving - The Four Tops

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  • braindeadpj
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    Originally posted by RokinRobinOfLocksley View Post
    Yall, that Dave McAleer overview was written by Alan Smith...
    Yes, You're right. It does say that at the beginning. I missed that when I posted it.

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  • RokinRobinOfLocksley
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    Yall, that Dave McAleer overview was written by Alan Smith...

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  • Splodj
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    Originally posted by braindeadpj View Post

    According to Dave McAleer's overview of the 50s and 60s charts (https://web.archive.org/web/20110903...com/page21.htm), it sounds like the stores provided a top 40 for Melody Maker in 1964.
    That is true. The 'World In Action' to which I linked showed the forms from the stores and it could be seen that MM asked them each to fill in their Top 40.

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