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  • membranemusic
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    Hello all contributors. The revised charts are truly wonderful to read.
    On a general point, I have often wondered for some time why many contributors on uk,mix tend to ignore record labels. Granted a) a lot of extra work, b) no-one cares any more in today's digital world, it was nonetheless the case that in the 60-80s the record label mattered almost as much as the artist, e.g. whether on London or Parlophone. I used to run logs and tallies on each label from the 60s to the 80s, until the point when record companies started eating each other. Do tell your comments.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 16th May 1964

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 16th 1964 BBC NME MM Disc RR
    Last This Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart
    Week Week Title and Artist Total Chart Positions 30
    5 1 Juliet - The Four Pennies 1 1 1 1 2
    2 2 My Boy Lollipop - Millie 2 2 2 2 3
    1 3 Don't Throw Your Love Away - The Searchers 3 3 3 3 1
    4 4 I Believe - The Bachelors 4 4 5 5 4
    11 5 It's Over - Roy Orbison 5 6 6 4 6
    10 6 A Little Loving - The Fourmost 6 7 4 6 10
    24 7 You're My World - Cilla Black 7 5 8 7 12
    3 8 A World Without Love - Peter and Gordon 8 11 7 9 5
    13 9 Constantly - Cliff Richard 9 9 9 8 7
    6 10 Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying - Gerry and Pacemakers 10 8 10 10 9
    12 11 Walk On By - Dionne Warwick 11 9 11 12 11
    8 12 I Love You Because - Jim Reeves 12 12 12 11 8
    7 13 Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles 13 13 14 13 13
    9 14 Move Over Darling - Doris Day 15 17 13 15 15
    17 15 Don't Turn Around - The Merseybeats 14 15 15 14 16
    27 16 The Rise And Fall Of Flingel Bunt - The Shadows 18 14 17 16 21
    14 17 Mocking Bird Hill - The Migil Five 16 16 18 18 14
    22 18 I Will - Billy Fury 17 19 16 17 17
    15 19 Everything's Alright - The Mojos 19 22 19 20 18
    16 20 Hubble Bubble Toil And Trouble - Manfred Mann 20 21 20 21 19
    23 21 Non Ho L'Eta Per Amarti - Gigliola Cinquetti 21 18 21 22 24
    NEW 22 No Particular Place To Go - Chuck Berry 22 19 26 19 26
    19 23 Baby Let Me Take You Home - The Animals 23 23 22 25 23
    21 24 If I Loved You - Richard Anthony 24 23 24 20
    NEW 25 You're The One - Kathy Kirby 26= 24 24 27 30
    26 26 Angry At The Big Oak Tree - Frank Ifield 26= 26 25 29 25
    18 27 Tell Me When - The Applejacks 25 27 27 26 22
    NEW 28 Someone Someone - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 29= 25 30
    25 29 Little Children - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 29= 28 27
    20 30 Not Fade Away - The Rolling Stones 28 28
    The Rolling Stones (LP) - The Rolling Stones 28 23
    The Spartans - Sounds Incorporated 29
    Suspicion - Terry Stafford 29
    I Love You Baby - Freddie and The Dreamers 28
    Baby It's You - Dave Berry 30 29
    Shout - Lulu and The Luvvers 30

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 9th May 1964

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 9th 1964 BBC NME MM Disc RR
    Last This Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart
    Week Week Title and Artist Total Chart Positions 30
    1 1 Don't Throw Your Love Away - The Searchers 1 1 1 1 1
    4 2 My Boy Lollipop - Millie 2 2 3 2 3
    2 3 A World Without Love - Peter and Gordon 4 4 2 4 4
    3 4 I Believe - The Bachelors 3 3 4 3 2
    9 5 Juliet - The Four Pennies 5 5 5 5 5
    7 6 Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying - Gerry and Pacemakers 6 6 6 8 6
    5 7 Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles 7 7 9 7 7
    6 8 I Love You Because - Jim Reeves 8 8 7 9 10
    8 9 Move Over Darling - Doris Day 9 10 8 13 8
    18 10 A Little Loving - The Fourmost 10= 12 10 10 11
    19 11 It's Over - Roy Orbison 10= 11 12 6 14
    13 12 Walk On By - Dionne Warwick 12 9 14 12 9
    23 13 Constantly - Cliff Richard 13 15 13 11 16
    11 14 Mocking Bird Hill - The Migil Five 14 13 15 16 12
    10 15 Everything's Alright - The Mojos 15 17 11 15 17
    12 16 Hubble Bubble Toil And Trouble - Manfred Mann 17 14 16 17 15
    17 17 Don't Turn Around - The Merseybeats 16 16 18 14 13
    14 18 Tell Me When - The Applejacks 18 24 17 20 19
    21 19 Baby Let Me Take You Home - The Animals 21 18 19 27 23
    15 20 Not Fade Away - The Rolling Stones 22 21 20 26 21
    25 21 If I Loved You - Richard Anthony 19= 25 22 21 18
    NEW 22 I Will - Billy Fury 19= 22 25 19 20
    28 23 Non Ho L'Eta Per Amarti - Gigliola Cinquetti 24= 23 21 22 28
    NEW 24 You're My World - Cilla Black 23 18 27 18 30
    16 25 Little Children - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 24= 26 23 23 22
    26 26 Angry At The Big Oak Tree - Frank Ifield 27 29 24 28 25
    NEW 27 The Rise And Fall Of Flingel Bunt - The Shadows 28 20 24
    30 28 The Spartans - Sounds Incorporated 26
    24 29 Hi-Heel Sneakers - Tommy Tucker 29 28 26
    20 30 Just One Look - The Hollies 29 29
    The Rolling Stones (LP) - The Rolling Stones 26 27 25
    You're The One - Kathy Kirby 28
    Baby It's You - Dave Berry 30 24
    Good Golly Miss Molly - The Swinging Blue Jeans 30 27
    Can't Buy Me Love - Ella Fitzgerald 30 30
    No Particular Place To Go - Chuck Berry 29

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks Splodj, that is most helpful.

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  • Splodj
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    Agree about the both sides issue, which we discussed on another thread. Effectively it is applying the EP solution.

    But when you do the 50s you are probably going to need a changeover date to that system, which I have suggested could be March 1958.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks for your thoughts membranemusic. The problem with allocating points to both though means the record gets more than its fair share of points, eg, the example you give on January 5th 1963. Maximum points a record can achieve is 30, so if you allocate 28 points to The Next Time and 25 to Bachelor Boy you get 53 points so this obviously doesn't work, and if you simply add extra points to compensate this is subjective and open to interpretation and therefore inconsistency . I believe taking an average of all the other charts which combined the titles does give an acceptable result as the average will fall within the parameters of the other charts and therefore be reliable.

    I am enjoying your input and comments though.

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  • membranemusic
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    Hello MrTibbs
    Yes, apologies, I drafted my response on methodology but had to wait for posting. So I appreciate that you have sales criteria in addition to points.
    It’s great to see No. 21-30, which were not broadcast at that time.

    I am not sure the BBC were bothered with a tiebreaker most of the time – just mild embarrassment at a joint position. There were plenty of joint positions after 1964 dates you mention.

    Regarding double –sided hits, mrtibbs, one method not used by the BBC is to allocate a small number of points to the lesser-selling side and add them to the NME A-side, but subject to an upper limit, as the average of the other 3 charts might under-compensate on some occasions. Just saying….. It gets especially tricky with “Next Time”/”Bachelor Boy” in 62/63.

    Keep on please.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 2nd May 1964.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 2nd 1964 BBC NME MM Disc RR
    Last This Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart
    Week Week Title and Artist Total Chart Positions 30
    4 1 Don't Throw Your Love Away - The Searchers 1 2 1 1 2
    1 2 A World Without Love - Peter and Gordon 2 1 2 3 1
    2 3 I Believe - The Bachelors 3 3 3 2 3
    5 4 My Boy Lollipop - Millie 4 4 4 4 5
    3 5 Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles 5 5 5 5 4
    6 6 I Love You Because - Jim Reeves 6 6 6 6 6
    13 7 Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying - Gerry and Pacemakers 7 7 8 9 7
    9 8 Move Over Darling - Doris Day 8 8 9 8 8
    18 9 Juliet - The Four Pennies 9 9 10 7 12
    11 10 Everything's Alright - The Mojos 10 13 7 10 9
    12 11 Mocking Bird Hill - The Migil Five 11 12 11 11 10
    15 12 Hubble Bubble Toil And Trouble - Manfred Mann 12 11 14 13 11
    17 13 Walk On By - Dionne Warwick 13 10 13 15 15
    7 14 Tell Me When - The Applejacks 14 18 12 12 14
    10 15 Not Fade Away - The Rolling Stones 15 19 16 16 13
    8 16 Little Children - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 16 20 15 14 16
    20 17 Don't Turn Around - The Merseybeats 17= 14 18 19 17
    30 18 A Little Loving - The Fourmost 17= 17 19 18 19
    NEW 19 It's Over - Roy Orbison 20 15 21 17
    14 20 Just One Look - The Hollies 19 24 17 21 18
    24 21 Baby Let Me Take You Home - The Animals 21 15 23 26 21
    16 22 Good Golly Miss Molly - The Swinging Blue Jeans 23 25 20 23 20
    NEW 23 Constantly - Cliff Richard 24 22 22 22 30
    27 24 Hi-Heel Sneakers - Tommy Tucker 25 27 25 24 23
    NEW 25 If I Loved You - Richard Anthony 26 26 26 25 28
    NEW 26 Angry At The Big Oak Tree - Frank Ifield 27 27 27 27 25
    19 27 That Girl Belongs To Yesterday - Gene Pitney 28 24 30 22
    NEW 28 Non Ho L'Eta Per Amarti - Gigliola Cinquetti 29 21 30
    25 29 Diane - The Bachelors 30 29 29 26
    NEW 30 The Spartans - Sounds Incorporated 28
    The Rolling Stones (LP) - The Rolling Stones 22 23 20
    Theme For Young Lovers - The Shadows 24
    Think - Brenda Lee 29 27
    I Will - Billy Fury 30 28
    Baby It's You - Dave Berry 30
    Viva Las Vegas - Elvis Presley 29

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 25th April 1964. Enjoy.
    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 25th 1964 BBC NME MM Disc RR
    Last This Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart
    Week Week Title and Artist Total Chart Positions 30
    1 1 A World Without Love - Peter and Gordon 1 1 1 1 1
    3 2 I Believe - The Bachelors 2 2 2 2 3
    2 3 Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles 3 3 3 3 2
    12 4 Don't Throw Your Love Away - The Searchers 4 3 4 4 4
    8 5 My Boy Lollipop - Millie 5 5 5 5 5
    6 6 I Love You Because - Jim Reeves 6 6 6 6 6
    5 7 Tell Me When - The Applejacks 7 7 8 7 7
    4 8 Little Children - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 8 9 7 9 9
    11 9 Move Over Darling - Doris Day 9 8 9 8 11
    7 10 Not Fade Away - The Rolling Stones 10 11 11 10 8
    13 11 Everything's Alright - The Mojos 11 13 10 11 12
    15 12 Mocking Bird Hill - The Migil Five 12 10 13 12 13
    24 13 Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying - Gerry and Pacemakers 14 11 14 13 17
    9 14 Just One Look - The Hollies 13 16 12 15 10
    23 15 Hubble Bubble Toil And Trouble - Manfred Mann 15 15 16 14 16
    14 16 Good Golly Miss Molly - The Swinging Blue Jeans 16 17 15 18 14
    27 17 Walk On By - Dionne Warwick 19 14 19 16 25
    21 18 Juliet - The Four Pennies 17 19 18 17 18
    10 19 That Girl Belongs To Yesterday - Gene Pitney 18 21 17 19 15
    NEW 20 Don't Turn Around - The Merseybeats 20 18 21 20 24
    17 21 Theme For Young Lovers - The Shadows 21 22 20 21 20
    18 22 Viva Las Vegas - Elvis Presley 23 24 22 30 22
    16 23 Bits And Pieces - The Dave Clark Five 23 27 25 23 23
    NEW 24 Baby Let Me Take You Home - The Animals 26= 19 27 29 29
    20 25 Diane - The Bachelors 26= 29 23 28 21
    19 26 Anyone Who Had A Heart - Cilla Black 25 24 25 19
    RE 27 Hi-Heel Sneakers - Tommy Tucker 28 25 28 24 28
    28 28 Think - Brenda Lee 29 26 29 27 26
    22 29 New Orleans - Bern Elliot and The Fenmen 30 26 27
    NEW 30 A Little Loving - The Fourmost 28 30
    The Rolling Stones (LP) - The Rolling Stones 22 23 22
    If I Loved You - Richard Anthony 26
    Angry At The Big Oak Tree - Frank Ifield 29
    Let Me Go Lover - Kathy Kirby 30
    Last edited by MrTibbs; Wed June 24, 2020, 13:43.

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  • Splodj
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    According to my calculations, on BBC scoring if a record is top in 3 of the charts it will score best unless it is at least as low as number 5 in the 4th chart. There are 4 more occasions in the next 12 months when RR had a record below 5 which the others had at number 1.

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  • eurofandave
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    Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
    Guys, do you find it helpful to see all the music paper charts and the BBC chart side by side to make comparisons ?
    Brian,I love the layout!! It's really helpful to see all the music paper's charts positions side by side!! Well done!! :-)

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  • MrTibbs
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    Hey guys, I always enjoy your feedback. Thanks membranemusic for your very positive comments on my other thread. I really enjoyed working on that musical tapestry to its completion and am now equally engrossed in this fascinating and addictive thread. I read yours and Splodj's comments above. I outlined my methodology away back at the start of this thread and you will see that I address your compiler issues there membranemusic as these are all valid considerations.

    As you mention and Splodj the BBC calculations were not the most accurate hence why I went back to the drawing board on calculation using just Top 30 positions and also added the individual music papers' store returns to further enhance robustness .

    I am really pleased with the outcome. As you can see it is not littered with ties. In the 19 weeks I have thus so far compiled with my method there have only been 2 ties, both at the very bottom end of the chart which I separated by using MM positions as it has the largest store return.

    The BBC's own policy on ties varied through the years so was not consistent.

    Continue to enjoy the chart guys as the Ultimate Averaged Chart is probably the most accurate we will ever get to a true chart of the time. I use an excell spreadsheet to assist with this to ensure accuracy with calculations. I owe a debt to my buddy RokinRobin for his assistance in developing this spreadsheet for me to work with.

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  • Splodj
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    Membranemusic,

    In your re-calculations did you find that the BBC were adopting a tiebreaker policy about this time.

    In the recent charts I have found 4 cases where there were equal scores but the BBC have not given equal positions.

    On 4-Apr: Bachelors/Stones (4/5) and Applejacks/DC5 (9/10). On 11-Apr: Reeves/Stones (6/7). On 18th Apr Searchers/SBJ (12/13).

    In each case the record going down the chart has been given the lower position.

    Is this a deliberate new policy? There hasn't been a tie in the Top 20 since 7th March.

    There have been ties in the 21-30 section but this was only for internal use. Those 4 tieing at 26 on 4-Apr all have different scores - I think an indication that they didn't bother much about accuracy at the bottom end.

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  • membranemusic
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    Hello
    I would also like to pass my congrats to MrTibbs for his Record Mirror posts – the dealer charts - like Tutankhamun!
    In doing the BBC charts, this is an interesting endeavour.

    I certainly do not want to 'rock the boat' etc., but I have some observations;

    As a weekly chart-watcher since 1962, I was a keen follower of the BBC Master chart, to the extent I took it upon myself eventually to re-calculate the occasional wayward BBC chart compilations. I have all the BBC charts (and most of the calculations) from July 1963 to February 1969. Before July 1963 Messrs Jacobs and Freeman were often coy about Nos. 11-20, hence not complete until then. I also have the calculations of all subsequent weeks from February 1969 until to October 1996.

    I am pleased to say your 1/2/64 chart is largely the same.


    I think a compiler would have to bear several points in mind:
    1. Start date of 28/9/57 [BBC], or 1955?
    2. End date of 8/2/69 [BBC], or when there ceased to be any bona fide industry journal rivals to MW [1996]? I am aware of the points-of-view.
    3. You will have to decide how to treat joint positions: mathematically logical, yet irrational [e.g. 10/3/63 or 28/3/65, where the BBC chart is joint-crazy];
    4. You will have to decide how to treat double-sided hits, as the NME split the sales of A-side and B-side on up to 70 singles between 1952 and 1969, as did MM for a while;
    5. You will have to decide how to treat EPs, as RR excluded them from the SP chart because they had their own EP chart;
    6. You will have to decide how to treat LPs, as the NME included them in their SP chart from time to time, despite having their own LP chart;
    7. You will have to decide how to treat different editions of the same recording on the rare moments when 2 labels had hits with exactly the same recording, and RR separated the sales.
    8. You may find that 30 points for No. 1, 29 points for 2, etc. works better than 1 point for No.1 etc when compensatory calculations are required.

    Half the fun is the calculation. Good luck!

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Thanks guys above for your response to my question.

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 18th April 1964.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 18th 1964 BBC NME MM Disc RR
    Last This Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart
    Week Week Title and Artist Total Chart Positions 30
    2 1 A World Without Love - Peter and Gordon 1 2 1 1 2
    1 2 Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles 2 1 2 3 1
    3 3 I Believe - The Bachelors 3 3 3 2 3
    4 4 Little Children - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 4 4 4 4 4
    7 5 Tell Me When - The Applejacks 5 5 5 5 7
    8 6 I Love You Because - Jim Reeves 6 7 6 6 5
    6 7 Not Fade Away - The Rolling Stones 7 9 7 7 8
    14 8 My Boy Lollipop - Millie 8 6 9 8 10
    5 9 Just One Look - The Hollies 9 10 8 10 6
    9 10 That Girl Belongs To Yesterday - Gene Pitney 10 12 10 11 9
    15 11 Move Over Darling - Doris Day 11 11 12 12 12
    NEW 12 Don't Throw Your Love Away - The Searchers 12 8 14 9 20
    18 13 Everything's Alright - The Mojos 14 15 11 13 13
    11 14 Good Golly Miss Molly - The Swinging Blue Jeans 13 13 13 14 11
    21 15 Mocking Bird Hill - The Migil Five 16 14 16 15 17
    10 16 Bits And Pieces - The Dave Clark Five 15 16 17 16 14
    12 17 Theme For Young Lovers - The Shadows 17 17 15 17 19
    17 18 Viva Las Vegas - Elvis Presley 19 23 18 21 18
    13 19 Anyone Who Had A Heart - Cilla Black 18 26 19 18 15
    16 20 Diane - The Bachelors 20 30 20 23 16
    27 21 Juliet - The Four Pennies 24 19 27 25
    24 22 New Orleans - Bern Elliot and The Fenmen 21 21 22 24
    NEW 23 Hubble Bubble Toil And Trouble - Manfred Mann 22 21 29 20 29
    NEW 24 Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying - Gerry and The Pacemakers 23 20 30 19
    19 25 Boys Cry - Eden Kane 26= 26 24 23
    20 26 I Think Of You - The Merseybeats 25 22 29 21
    NEW 27 Walk On By - Dionne Warwick 26= 18 24
    28 28 Think - Brenda Lee 28 25 26 27 27
    23 29 Over You - Freddie and The Dreamers 30 23 25
    22 30 Let Me Go Lover - Kathy Kirby 29 25 22
    Don't Turn Around - The Merseybeats 22 28
    Hi-Heel Sneakers - Tommy Tucker 24 26
    If He Tells You - Adam Faith 28 26
    Baby Let Me Take You Home - The Animals 28
    Angry At The Big Oak Tree - Frank Ifield 29 30
    Stay Awhile - Dusty Springfield 28
    Candy Man - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 30

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  • Robbie
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    Yes, I like the layout as it makes it much easier to compare each music paper / BBC chart to the Ultimate Averaged Chart.

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  • Splodj
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    Definitely, to see the whole picture.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Guys, do you find it helpful to see all the music paper charts and the BBC chart side by side to make comparisons ?

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending 11th April 1964.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 11th 1964 BBC NME MM Disc RR
    Last This Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart
    Week Week Title and Artist Total Chart Positions 30
    1 1 Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 1
    6 2 A World Without Love - Peter and Gordon 2 2 2 2 4
    4 3 I Believe - The Bachelors 3 2 3 3 3
    2 4 Little Children - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 4 4 4 4 2
    3 5 Just One Look - The Hollies 5 5 5 5 5
    5 6 Not Fade Away - The Rolling Stones 7 7 7 8 6
    9 7 Tell Me When - The Applejacks 8 8 6 6 9
    7 8 I Love You Because - Jim Reeves 6 6 8 7 7
    8 9 That Girl Belongs To Yesterday - Gene Pitney 9 9 9 9 8
    10 10 Bits And Pieces - The Dave Clark Five 10 12 10 10 10
    14 11 Good Golly Miss Molly - The Swinging Blue Jeans 11 11 11 11 14
    13 12 Theme For Young Lovers - The Shadows 13 15 12 13 12
    11 13 Anyone Who Had A Heart - Cilla Black 12 14 14 12 11
    23 14 My Boy Lollipop - Millie 14 10 16 15 16
    20 15 Move Over Darling - Doris Day 15 16 13 17 15
    12 16 Diane - The Bachelors 16 19 15 14 13
    16 17 Viva Las Vegas - Elvis Presley 17 17 17 18 17
    27 18 Everything's Alright - The Mojos 18 18 18 16 18
    15 19 Boys Cry - Eden Kane 19 20 20 19 21
    17 20 I Think Of You - The Merseybeats 20 22 19 20 20
    25 21 Mocking Bird Hill - The Migil Five 21= 13 24 22 30
    18 22 Let Me Go Lover - Kathy Kirby 21= 28 21 21 19
    19 23 Over You - Freddie and The Dreamers 23 30 22 23 22
    30 24 New Orleans - Bern Elliot and The Fenmen 24 23 24 24
    21 25 Candy Man - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 25 25 27 28 26
    22 26 Stay Awhile - Dusty Springfield 26 25 29 23
    NEW 27 Juliet - The Four Pennies 29 21
    NEW 28 Think - Brenda Lee 27 24 26
    28 29 If He Tells You - Adam Faith 28 26 25
    NEW 30 Hi-Heel Sneakers - Tommy Tucker 23
    All My Loving (EP) - The Beatles 30 28 27
    Top 6 No 3 - Various Artists 26
    It's So Nice - The Gamblers 27
    Only You - Mark Wynter 25
    Borne On The Wind - Roy Orbison 30 28
    The Rolling Stones (EP) - The Rolling Stones 29
    Needles And Pins - The Searchers 30 27
    King Of Kings - Ezz Reco and The Launchers 29
    Eight By Ten - Ken Dodd 29

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  • MrTibbs
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    Yes I dare say they might have 'one' or more, lol.

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  • Splodj
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    Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
    So this rule will consistently apply through all the years where any single tops all charts except just one.
    And we all know which 'one' that will be!

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers ! Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending April 4th 1964.

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending April 4th 1964 BBC NME MM Disc RR
    Last This Chart Chart Chart Chart Chart
    Week Week Title and Artist Total Chart Positions 30
    1 1 Can't Buy Me Love - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 1
    2 2 Little Children - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas 2 3 2 2 2
    3 3 Just One Look - The Hollies 3 4 3 3 3
    9 4 I Believe - The Bachelors 4 2 4 6 6
    4 5 Not Fade Away - The Rolling Stones 5 5 5 4 4
    14 6 A World Without Love - Peter and Gordon 7 5 6 7 13
    6 7 I Love You Because - Jim Reeves 6 7 9 5 5
    8 8 That Girl Belongs To Yesterday - Gene Pitney 8 8 7 8 9
    11 9 Tell Me When - The Applejacks 9 9 8 9 11
    5 10 Bits And Pieces - The Dave Clark Five 10 10 10 10 7
    7 11 Anyone Who Had A Heart - Cilla Black 11 11 11 11 10
    10 12 Diane - The Bachelors 12 12 13 13 8
    13 13 Theme For Young Lovers - The Shadows 13 14 12 12 14
    19 14 Good Golly Miss Molly - The Swinging Blue Jeans 15 13 14 16 20
    12 15 Boys Cry - Eden Kane 14 19 15 14 12
    20 16 Viva Las Vegas - Elvis Presley 16 16 17 15 18
    15 17 I Think Of You - The Merseybeats 17 18 18 17 15
    16 18 Let Me Go Lover - Kathy Kirby 18 25 16 18 17
    18 19 Over You - Freddie and The Dreamers 19 22 19 22 16
    24 20 Move Over Darling - Doris Day 20 21 20 19 23
    17 21 Candy Man - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes 21 20 22 21 22
    21 22 Stay Awhile - Dusty Springfield 22 23 21 24 19
    25 23 My Boy Lollipop - Millie 23 15 25 28 27
    22 24 Borne On The Wind - Roy Orbison 24 26 24 29 24
    NEW 25 Mocking Bird Hill - The Migil Five 17 30
    27 26 All My Loving (EP) - The Beatles 26= 23 27
    NEW 27 Everything's Alright - The Mojos 26= 26 20
    28 28 If He Tells You - Adam Faith 26= 27 23 25
    23 29 Needles And Pins - The Searchers 25 30 30 26 21
    NEW 30 New Orleans - Bern Elliot and The Fenmen 30 27 25 30
    Juliet - The Four Pennies 24
    I'm The One - Gerry and The Pacemakers 26= 28 28
    King Of Kings - Ezz Reco and The Launchers 28
    The Rolling Stones (EP) - The Rolling Stones 29
    Eight By Ten - Ken Dodd 26
    Only You - Mark Wynter 29
    As Usual - Brenda Lee 29

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks for those links Robbie. Much appreciated.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Yes Robin, No 1 in all fairness has to be clearly what is No 1 in most charts. In the case of the Beatles above they were No 1 in MM NME DISC and only denied No 1 in the Ultimate Chart by being No 8 in RR, the chart with the least store returns. So this rule will consistently apply through all the years where any single tops all charts except just one.

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  • RokinRobinOfLocksley
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    Since no one has said anything yet, I'll ask you Brian: are you creating a special rule for #1 on your Ultimate chart?

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