The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[MrTibbs]

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending February 15th 1964							BBC	NME	RM	MM	Disc	RR
Last	This						Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart
Week	Week	Title and Artist						Total Chart Positions				30
1	1	Needles And Pins - The Searchers					1	1		1	1	1
2	2	I'm The One - Gerry and The Pacemakers					2	2		2	2	2
8	3	Diane - The Bachelors					3	3		3	3	3
7	4	5 4 3 2 1 - Manfred Mann					4	4		4	4	5
3	5	Hippy Hippy Shake - The Swinging Blue Jeans					5	5		5	5	4
5	6	As Usual - Brenda Lee					7	8		6	7	7
26	7	Anyone Who Had A Heart - Cilla Black					8	5		8	6	10
4	8	Glad All Over - The Dave Clark Five					6	7		7	8	6
13	9	I Think Of You - The Merseybeats					9	9		9	9	9
18	10	Candy Man - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes					10	11		11	10	13
9	11	Don't Blame Me - Frank Ifield					11	14		10	14	8
20	12	I'm The Lonely One - Cliff Richard					12	10		13	11	14
14	13	Baby I Love You - The Ronettes					13	13		12	12	12
6	14	Twenty Four Hours From Tulsa - Gene Pitney					14	12		15	13	11
10	15	I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles					15	16		14	15	15
11	16	Stay - The Hollies					17	18		17	16	19
28	17	All My Loving (EP) - The Beatles					16	15		20	17
15	18	I'm In Love - The Fourmost					18	19		16	20	18
21	19	For You - Rick Nelson					19	22		19	19	16
12	20	I Only Want To Be With You - Dusty Springfield					20	23		18	21	17
17	21	Swinging On A Star - Big Dee Irwin					22	21		23	26	20
22	22	The Rolling Stones (EP) - The Rolling Stones					21	20		27	18
24	23	Louie Louie - The Kingsmen					23	16		28	22	26
16	24	We Are In Love - Adam Faith					24	25		21	23	25
19	25	Do You Really Love Me Too - Billy Fury					25	28		22	24	22
NEW	26	Boys Cry - Eden Kane					26	26		25	25	24
25	27	Whispering - Nino Tempo and April Stevens					27			24	28	23
23	28	She Loves You - The Beatles					28			26	29	21
NEW	29	Eight By Ten - Ken Dodd					29	24		29	27
30	30	My Baby Left Me - Dave Berry					30=	27
		Top Six No 1 (EP) - Various Artists						29
		I Wanna Be Your Man - The Rolling Stones					30=					27
		Kiss Me Quick - Elvis Presley								30		30
		Nadine - Chuck Berry						30			30
		If I Ruled The World - Harry Secombe										28
		Um Um Um Um Um Um - Major Lance						30
		Maria Elena - Los Indios Tabajaras										29

[Splodj]

The inverse method also gives the same score to those records - just that it is zero instead of 31. That is why I say there is no inherent difference between the two methods.

But the point I was making is that the BBC avoided this distortion in any case by presenting to the public only the Top 20. The records for which they allocated 31 points were invariably in the 21-30 section which they calculated only for their private use.

[MrTibbs]

The big disadvantage as you probably already know with that system though Splodj was that by using the 21 points for a record outside a Top 20, and later 31 for outside the Top 30 this awarded equal points to all such records irregardless of what position they would have held outside the chart so this in effect let to fundamental inaccuracy.

[MrTibbs]

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending February 8th 1964							BBC	NME	RM	MM	Disc	RR
Last	This						Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart
Week	Week	Title and Artist						Total Chart Positions				30
1	1	Needles And Pins - The Searchers					1	1		1	1	1
4	2	I'm The One - Gerry and The Pacemakers					2	2		2	2	2
2	3	Hippy Hippy Shake - The Swinging Blue Jeans					3	3		3	3	3
3	4	Glad All Over - The Dave Clark Five					4	5		4	4	4
10	5	As Usual - Brenda Lee					5	7		5	5	5
5	6	Twenty Four Hours From Tulsa - Gene Pitney					6	8		6	6	6
13	7	5 4 3 2 1 - Manfred Mann					7	6		8	7	9
19	8	Diane - The Bachelors					8	4		11	8	8
9	9	Don't Blame Me - Frank Ifield					9	9		7	9	10
6	10	I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles					10	10		9	11	7
8	11	Stay - The Hollies					11	11		10	10	12
7	12	I Only Want To Be With You - Dusty Springfield					12	13		12	13	11
17	13	I Think Of You - The Merseybeats					13	12		13	12	15
21	14	Baby I Love You - The Ronettes					14	16		14	14	13
16	15	I'm In Love - The Fourmost					15	15		15	15	17
12	16	We Are In Love - Adam Faith					16	21		17	17	18
11	17	Swinging On A Star - Big Dee Irwin					17	23		16	18	16
30	18	Candy Man - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes					19	17		19	19	22
15	19	Do You Really Love Me Too - Billy Fury					18	22		18	20	14
NEW	20	I'm The Lonely One - Cliff Richard					20	14		26	16	23
26	21	For You - Rick Nelson					21	25		21	23	21
22	22	The Rolling Stones (EP) - The Rolling Stones					22	24		23	21
14	23	She Loves You - The Beatles					23	29		22	25	19
25	24	Louie Louie - The Kingsmen					26=	18		27	26
27	25	Whispering - Nino Tempo and April Stevens					24=			20	28	20
NEW	26	Anyone Who Had A Heart - Cilla Black					24=	18			22	28
20	27	I Wanna Be Your Man - The Rolling Stones					26=	27		24	27	24
NEW	28	All My Loving (EP) - The Beatles					28	18			24
18	29	Kiss Me Quick - Elvis Presley					29	28		25		25
NEW	30	My Baby Left Me - Dave Berry					30=	26
		Maria Elena - Los Indios Tabajaras								28
		You Were Made For Me - Freddie and The Dreamers								29		30
		If I Ruled The World - Harry Secombe					30=					26
		Eight By Ten - Ken Dodd						30			29
		Boys Cry - Eden Kane								30	30
		Secret Love - Kathy Kirby										27
		Dominique - The Singing Nun										29

[Splodj]

Important to bear in mind that the BBC presented their chart as a Top 20. On the recording above, Alan Freeman back announces 54321 at number 12 as a new entry, not a climber from 21.

By calculating 21-30 they avoided the distortions in the Top 20 that would have occurred by allocating 21 points to the 'others'. The 'others' to which they allocated 31 points are almost always outside the 20.

[Splodj]

Great to hear.

Whoever recorded it has skipped Dusty Springfield at number 7!

[MrTibbs]

Yeah the fact that the BBC made quite a few errors some already known some yet to be discovered like yours above was the initial driving force behind my goal to re-compile these charts but with the addition of store returns factored in to make them much more robust and balanced.

[Splodj]

A couple more apparent mistakes in previous BBC charts ...

- 18th January : Maria Elena got 73 points and should have tied at number 16 with Gerry and Brenda, not been at 18.

- 25th January : The Beatles got 45 points and should have tied with Brenda at number 10, not tied with Billy at 13.

[Woz1234]

When I try to recreate the BBC chart I get 6 records in different positions:

11 Big Dee Irwin (46 points) BBC-13
12 Adam Faith (47 points) BBC-11
13 Manfred Mann (50 points) BBC-12

16 Fourmost (67 points) BBC-17
17 Merseybeats (71 points) BBC-18
18 Presley (76 points) BBC-16

This could have been caused by only two mistakes - demoting Irwin and promoting Presley.

You have BBC chart positions right,

https://www.mixcloud.com/peteseaton/...reeman-020264/

Starts off with Manfred Mann at #12 & then Merseybeat at #18

[Splodj]

And yes Brian I did notice that the positions my calculations put them in are the same as in your chart!

[Splodj]

When I try to recreate the BBC chart I get 6 records in different positions:

11 Big Dee Irwin (46 points) BBC-13
12 Adam Faith (47 points) BBC-11
13 Manfred Mann (50 points) BBC-12

16 Fourmost (67 points) BBC-17
17 Merseybeats (71 points) BBC-18
18 Presley (76 points) BBC-16

This could have been caused by only two mistakes - demoting Irwin and promoting Presley.

[MrTibbs]

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending February 1st 1964							BBC	NME	RM	MM	Disc	RR
Last	This						Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart
Week	Week	Title and Artist						Total Chart Positions				30
6	1	Needles And Pins - The Searchers					1	1		1	1	1
2	2	Hippy Hippy Shake - The Swinging Blue Jeans					2	2		2	2	3
1	3	Glad All Over - The Dave Clark Five					3	3		3	3	2
7	4	I'm The One - Gerry and The Pacemakers					4	4		4	4	4
4	5	Twenty Four Hours From Tulsa - Gene Pitney					5	5		5	5	7
3	6	I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles					6	6		6	6	6
5	7	I Only Want To Be With You - Dusty Springfield					7	7		8	9	5
8	8	Stay - The Hollies					8	8		7	8	8
11	9	Don't Blame Me - Frank Ifield					10	8		10	10	10
12	10	As Usual - Brenda Lee					9	10		11	7	9
9	11	Swinging On A Star - Big Dee Irwin					13	12		9	13	12
13	12	We Are In Love - Adam Faith					11	13		12	11	11
20	13	5 4 3 2 1 - Manfred Mann					12	10		14	12	14
10	14	She Loves You - The Beatles					15	18		13	15	16
14	15	Do You Really Love Me Too - Billy Fury					14	16		17	14	13
17	16	I'm In Love - The Fourmost					17	15		15	17	20
NEW	17	I Think Of You - The Merseybeats					18	20		16	16	19
15	18	Kiss Me Quick - Elvis Presley					16	22		18	21	15
NEW	19	Diane - The Bachelors					19	14		24	18	22
16	20	I Wanna Be Your Man - The Rolling Stones					20	22		21	19	17
22	21	Baby I Love You - The Ronettes					21	25		19	23	18
23	22	The Rolling Stones (EP) - The Rolling Stones					22	19		29	20
19	23	Dominique - The Singing Nun					23			20	24	24
21	24	Secret Love - Kathy Kirby					24			23	25	21
28	25	Louie Louie - The Kingsmen					28	17			27
NEW	26	For You - Rick Nelson					25=	20			22	30
30	27	Whispering - Nino Tempo and April Stevens					27	26		26	26	26
18	28	You Were Made For Me - Freddie and The Dreamers					25=			22		25
24	29	Maria Elena - Los Indios Tabajaras					30			25	30	23
NEW	30	Candy Man - Brian Poole and The Tremeloes						24			29
		The Dave Clark Five (EP) - The Dave Clark Five					29	28		28
		If I Ruled The World - Harry Secombe								27		28
		Song Of Mexico - Tony Meehan						27
		Twist And Shout (EP) - The Beatles								30	28
		My Baby Left Me - Dave Berry						29
		You'll Never Walk Alone - Gerry and The Pacemakers										27
		Don't Talk To Him - Cliff Richard						30
		Geronimo - The Shadows										29

[MrTibbs]

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 25th 1964							BBC	NME	RM	MM	Disc	RR
Last	This						Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart
Week	Week	Title and Artist						Total Chart Positions				30
1	1	Glad All Over - The Dave Clark Five					1	1		1	2	1
3	2	Hippy Hippy Shake - The Swinging Blue Jeans					2	2		2	1	2
2	3	I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles					3	3		3	3	3
4	4	Twenty Four Hours From Tulsa - Gene Pitney					4	7		4	4	5
5	5	I Only Want To Be With You - Dusty Springfield					5	6		5	7	4
22	6	Needles And Pins - The Searchers					6	4		9	6	6
16	7	I'm The One - Gerry and The Pacemakers					7	5		8	5	10
8	8	Stay - The Hollies					9	8		6	8	12
6	9	Swinging On A Star - Big Dee Irwin					8	9		7	9	7
7	10	She Loves You - The Beatles					13=	14		10	13	8
18	11	Don't Blame Me - Frank Ifield					11=	11		12	12	13
17	12	As Usual - Brenda Lee					10	10		15	11	9
13	13	We Are In Love - Adam Faith					11=	16		11	10	11
15	14	Do You Really Love Me Too - Billy Fury					13=	15		13	14	17
12	15	Kiss Me Quick - Elvis Presley					15	18		14	17	14
11	16	I Wanna Be Your Man - The Rolling Stones					16	17		17	15	15
25	17	I'm In Love - The Fourmost					17	12		19	18	21
9	18	You Were Made For Me - Freddie and The Dreamers					19	20		16	19	20
10	19	Dominique - The Singing Nun					18	21		18	16	16
NEW	20	5 4 3 2 1 - Manfred Mann					21	12		26	22	27
14	21	Secret Love - Kathy Kirby					20	24		20	21	18
26	22	Baby I Love You - The Ronettes					22	24		22	20	23
NEW	23	The Rolling Stones (EP) - The Rolling Stones					23	19		25	24
19	24	Maria Elena - Los Indios Tabajaras					24	29		21	29	19
NEW	25	The Dave Clark Five (EP) - The Dave Clark Five					25	28		24	25
20	26	Don't Talk To Him - Cliff Richard					26	23		28	30	26
23	27	Twist And Shout (EP) - The Beatles					27	30		23	28
NEW	28	Louie Louie - The Kingsmen						22
21	29	You'll Never Walk Alone - Gerry and The Pacemakers					28			27		22
30	30	Whispering - Nino Tempo and April Stevens					30	26			26
		I Think Of You - The Mersybeats					29			29	23	29
		Geronimo - The Shadows								30		24
		Not Too Little Not Too Much - Chris Sandford										25
		If I Ruled The World - Harry Secombe									27	30
		Money - Bern Elliot and The Fenmen										28
		Sat It Isn't So - Frank Ifield						27

[Robbie]

How old was Heinz when he died?

Sorry, completely off topic but couldn't resist one of my favourite pub quiz questions....

I must admit I had to look up how old he was when he died but given your post I had a feeling I knew what the answer would be..!

[Metalweb]

Country Boy by Heinz was at #27 in Record Retailer that week, Good chart.

How old was Heinz when he died?

Sorry, completely off topic but couldn't resist one of my favourite pub quiz questions....

[MrTibbs]

Here is the next chart for 18th January 1964. It's proving very interesting. Just take a look at how close it actually is to the BBC chart. So the additional store returns are smoothing it out and fine tuning the average chart without causing major disruption. I'm liking this.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 18th 1964							BBC	NME	RM	MM	Disc	RR
Last	This						Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart
Week	Week	Title and Artist						Total Chart Positions				30
1	1	Glad All Over - The Dave Clark Five					1	1		1	1	1
2	2	I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles					2=	3		2	3	2
3	3	Hippy Hippy Shake - The Swinging Blue Jeans					2=	2		3	2	3
5	4	Twenty Four Hours From Tulsa - Gene Pitney					4	4		4	4	6
4	5	I Only Want To Be With You - Dusty Springfield					5	5		5	5	4
7	6	Swinging On A Star - Big Dee Irwin					6	6		6	6	7
6	7	She Loves You - The Beatles					7	7		7	8	5
12	8	Stay - The Hollies					8	8		8	7	8
8	9	You Were Made For Me - Freddie and The Dreamers					9	10		9	11	9
9	10	Dominique - The Singing Nun					10	12		10	9	10
11	11	I Wanna Be Your Man - The Rolling Stones					11	9		12	12	14
13	12	Kiss Me Quick - Elvis Presley					12	11		11	13	15
18	13	We Are In Love - Adam Faith					13	13		15	10	13
10	14	Secret Love - Kathy Kirby					14	15		13	14	12
20	15	Do You Really Love Me Too - Billy Fury					15	16		14	17	17
NEW	16	I'm The One - Gerry and The Pacemakers					16=	13		22	15	23
NEW	17	As Usual - Brenda Lee					16=	17		20	20	16
NEW	18	Don't Blame Me - Frank Ifield					19	18		21	16	19
14	19	Maria Elena - Los Indios Tabajaras					18	27		16	19	11
15	20	Don't Talk To Him - Cliff Richard					20	20		17	25	21
16	21	You'll Never Walk Alone - Gerry and The Pacemakers					21	22		18	23	20
NEW	22	Needles And Pins - The Searchers					22	18		25	18	26
19	23	Twist And Shout (EP) - The Beatles					23	24		23	24
17	24	Geronimo - The Shadows					24	30		19	26	22
26	25	I'm In Love - The Fourmost					25=	21		27	21
30	26	Baby I Love You - The Ronettes					27	22		30	22	27
22	27	Not Too Little Not Too Much - Chris Sandford					25=			24	27	18
23	28	Money - Bern Elliot and The Fenmen					28			26		24
24	29	If I Ruled The World - Harry Secombe					29			29	28	25
NEW	30	Whispering - Nino Tempo and April Stevens						25
		The Beatles Hits (EP) - The Beatles					30			28	29
		The Rolling Stones (EP) - The Rolling Stones						28
		5 4 3 2 1 - Manfredd Mann						29
		I Think Of You - The Merseybeats						30			30
		Hungry For Love - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates										28
		Louie Louie - The Kingsmen						30
		Buddy Holly - What To Do										29
		At The Palace - Wilfrid Bramble and Harry H Corbett										30
		Say It Isn't So - Frank Ifield						26

[MrTibbs]

OK guys here is the next chart for 11th January, I have altered the bottom end to just give music paper positions for the records that did not make the Top 30, this allows better focus on the actual Top 30 and improves the overall layout. The records that were outside last week's Top 30 you will note are treated as New Entries in the actual Top 30 this week.
What is interesting is that whilst totally removing joint positions, factoring individual store returns just makes subtle changes to the chart compared to the BBC chart so dispels the suspicion that the largest returns by MM would dominate in it's favour. So all in all a well balanced chart I would say and minus ties.

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 11th 1964							BBC	NME	RM	MM	Disc	RR
Last	This						Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart	Chart
Week	Week	Title and Artist						Total Chart Positions				30
2	1	Glad All Over - The Dave Clark Five					1=	2		1	1	2
1	2	I Want To Hold Your Hand - The Beatles					1=	1		2	2	1
10	3	Hippy Hippy Shake - The Swinging Blue Jeans					3	3		3	3	3
5	4	I Only Want To Be With You - Dusty Springfield					4	5		4	5	4
7	5	Twenty Four Hours From Tulsa - Gene Pitney					5	4		5	4	6
3	6	She Loves You - The Beatles					6	6		6	6	5
9	7	Swinging On A Star - Big Dee Irwin					7	7		8	8	8
6	8	You Were Made For Me - Freddie and The Dreamers					8	8		9	7	7
4	9	Dominique - The Singing Nun					9	9		7	9	10
8	10	Secret Love - Kathy Kirby					10	10		10	10	9
12	11	I Wanna Be Your Man - The Rolling Stones					11	11		11	12	12
19	12	Stay - The Hollies					12	11		12	13	11
17	13	Kiss Me Quick - Elvis Presley					13	13		14	11	15
11	14	Maria Elena - Los Indios Tabajaras					14	15		13	14	13
13	15	Don't Talk To Him - Cliff Richard					15	14		15	17	14
16	16	You'll Never Walk Alone - Gerry and The Pacemakers					16	18		17	15	17
14	17	Geronimo - The Shadows					18	19		16	19	18
22	18	We Are In Love - Adam Faith					17	20		18	16	16
15	19	Twist And Shout (EP) - The Beatles					19	16		19	20
26	20	Do You Really Love Me Too - Billy Fury					20	17		22	18	20
20	21	The Beatles Hits (EP) - The Beatles					22	22		20	24
18	22	Not Too Little Not Too Much - Chris Sandford					21	23		23	21	19
23	23	Money - Bern Elliot and The Fenmen					23	24		21	22	23
27	24	If I Ruled The World - Harry Secombe					25	26		25	25	21
21	25	I'll Keep You Satisfied - Billy J Kramer and The Dakotas					26	28		24	28	22
NEW	26	I'm In Love - The Fourmost					27	25			23
NEW	27	Hungry For Love - Johnny Kidd and The Pirates					28	29		28		24
29	28	What To Do - Buddy Holly					29=			26		27
30	29	At The Palace - Wilfrid Brambell and Harry H Corbett								27		25
NEW	30	Baby I Love You - The Ronettes					29=	26			27
		Beatles No 1 (EP) - The Beatles						30		29
		Country Boy - Heinz								30		26
		I (Who Have Nothing) - Shirley Bassey										28
		Don't Blame Me - Frank Ifield									29
		As Usual - Brenda Lee										29
		Poison Ivy - The Paramounts									30
		It's Almost Tomorrow - Mark Wynter										30
		With The Beatles (LP) - The Beatles					24	20			26

[trebor]

Please do not quote full charts! Thank you

[MrTibbs]

Yeah Roadie it was, but somehow got deleted from the spreadsheet grrrr. I have re-entered it. Thanks for picking that up.

[Graham76man]

...it was well known that positions 31 to 50 were unreliable in RR as we're MM who also had the row over hyping in their 31 to 50 positions. So it is a Top 30 but with the records falling outside this numbered from 31 to show their relative positioning.
...With no way of knowing accurate sales figures for this period I believe this is the best chance we will ever have to reflect how an all encompassing chart of the time should have looked.

Actually Brian I have compiled the top 100 from 1965 and 1966 and I am currently doing the 1967 charts, which of course use sales and not points and take out fiddles. Though to be honest at this period the fiddles were not to bad. I have come across more fiddles doing the 2000 charts! I have marked up the known none entries with a red colour on the Word files I use and compared with the RR 50 from the 60's there are more on the 75 than the 50. Since what was often being fiddled was selling anyway. Just not in the few hundred stores these charts used. I have documented the big hype of Jeff Beck's - Hi Ho Silver Lining, which even got into the 30's selling under 7,000. Not enough to put it in the 100! While the Attack's version was ignored by the other charts and made the top 20! Beck's hype being the thing that triggered the reduction of the top 50 to 30 on the Melody Maker chart, probably! The 1965 chart features the last Woolworth's Embassy records, which had become EP's by this point. Link to the charts below.

https://therealchart.blogspot.com/p/...0s-charts.html

Apart from the LP's on the above charts "At The Palace - Wilfrid Brambell and Harry H Corbett" Would also be excluded not for being hyped, but being all "talk". It's just a recording of Steptoe and Sons!

I would have done the 1964 charts, but the release dates information on 45 Cat was very poor at the date I started doing the 60's chart. So it was best to start in 1965. Prior to 1963 records were still issued on the month, as in the Missing Charts book 1940-52. But from 1963 onwards they went weekly on a Friday. But even in 1964 dates were patchy. Even if the dates were good now. It couldn't be done to get a full list of what was released each week. As some stupid idiot at 45 Cat decided to cut results in the search from 100 to just 50 - this year! Making it impossible to get full results.

[Woz1234]

With The Beatles (LP) - The Beatles.

20

9

Was "With The Beatles" (LP) still #14 in the BBC Chart?

[Splodj]

The corresponding points system may have tempted them to award 21 points to outsiders, but with a bit more consideration they could have awarded the actual 21-30 positions - which is why I maintain there is no inherent difference, just that the corresponding points system is more likely to lead you astray.

With regard to LPs, wouldn't it be better to have them either completely in (a la BBC) or completely out? Out would be my preference, as the NME ended up being the only one to include them.

[MrTibbs]

NME was a Top 30 at this time, as was DISC, MM was predominantly also a Top 30 although it flirted with a Top 50 off and on briefly so it made sense to keep this chart to a Top 30 too but including and giving chart positions to all records that made a Top 30. Much more accurate as it was well known that positions 31 to 50 were unreliable in RR as we're MM who also had the row over hyping in their 31 to 50 positions. So it is a Top 30 but with the records falling outside this numbered from 31 to show their relative positioning.

The store numbers do make a difference but not as much as you would think. If you look at the first chart above the differences by and large are subtle but effective. Whereas the BBC treated all charts equally it has long been argued here and wider that MM and NME were the charts using the larger sample so it is right to see that represented in the chart of charts. I am using Alan Smith's researched data for this and not just a figure from my head. As with my previous thread I want these charts to be as accurate as possible with all the information we have and are likely to have.

Keep enjoying and watch the new averaged chart unfold telling the real story of the time with inconsistencies ironed out and balance restored. With no way of knowing accurate sales figures for this period I believe this is the best chance we will ever have to reflect how an all encompassing chart of the time should have looked.

[Metalweb]

I suppose the BBC system could be called the corresponding points method. It is a bit of a red herring because there is no inherent difference between it and the inverse points method.

TOTP spread the idea of the chart to a lot of people who had not been particularly interested in pop music hitherto, so I think this is a good week to start.

Surely there is an inherent difference.....the treatment of records not in the chart/s.

The inverse points system is so much more logical I'm amazed the BBC never thought of it....

[Graham76man]

I sort of think this is a good idea. It would have been really good if the BBC chart was a well known chart. But apart from when it was TOTP at the time, it's never become an iconic chart and is rarely published. So what you are doing is probably reproducing a new chart for the 60's in many ways.
One thing I would say about any point based chart is the size is limited to whatever the smallest chart is. So as NME never went over 30. You can only have an accurate top 30. Even if some of the charts were 100 strong. Which for a time a 100 was produced in one of the papers. The reason you need to stick to a 30 is that some records will start to cue to get into the 30, the bigger you make the chart. Due to the top 31 to 100 slots being not common to all charts. And it's likely that some records would follow a pattern in the charts, if the charts were all the same size. For example a record might enter at 49 move to 37 and then 32 before entering the top 30. And this would be repeated with the odd variation on every chart.
For this reason if I were doing them I would produce a top 30 and have the rest as numbered breakers. Even if a record was going down.

Not certain how you figure the numbers of shops used to a points figure? That too could produce a cue in places even in the 30. Since the Melody Maker has the most shops it will tend to dominate the 30 and as it became a 50 a low new entry could make the 30.
Rather like the Official chart when it was just downloads. I-tunes having all the chart slots and the rest of the sellers having no effect in it's charts.