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  • RR almost back to 'normal'.

    A song that hadn't charted when originally released by its co-writer Lonnie Donegan now makes it with Tom Jones.

    In 1967 the Beach Boys recorded With A Little Help From My Friends but it was not released until 1983. The Seekers contemporary recording of This Is My Song was not released until 1995!

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    • Joe Brown reached 34 with his version at this time in 1967. The biggest hit for it would come a year later for Joe Cocker, of course the last big hitter on the 45 market was Wet Wet Wet.
      John Barry's theme to You Only Live Twice did sell, but reached only reached 51.
      Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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      • Greetings Pop Pickers !

        The most sublime, evocative song of the 'flower power' era is poised to capture #1, Scott McKenzie's San Francisco.
        There are a massive 17 minor differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

        Guys, Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 5th 1967. Enjoy !

        The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 5th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total
        Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
        Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
        1 1 All You Need Is Love - The Beatles 1 1 1 2 1 18950
        2 2 San Francisco - Scott McKenzie 2 2 2 1 2 18515
        3 3 It Must Be Him - Vikki Carr 3 3 3 3 4 17695
        9 4 Death Of A Clown - Dave Davies 4 4 4 9 3 16730
        5 5 She'd Rather Be With Me - The Turtles 6 7 5 4 7 16040
        4 6 Alternate Title - The Monkees 5 6 7 5 5 15810
        20 7 I'll Never Fall In In Love Again - Tom Jones 7 4 8 6 6 15775
        6 8 See Emily Play - Pink Floyd 9 9 6 10 9 14620
        13 9 I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder 8 10 9 7 8 14055
        10 10 Up Up And Away - The Johnny Mann Singers 10 8 10 8 11 13850
        8 11 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 11 11 12 11 12 12365
        7 12 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 12 14 11 13 10 11985
        11 13 Let's Pretend - Lulu 13 12 13 12 13 11730
        19 14 Just Loving You - Anita Harris 14 13 14 14 14 10995
        16 15 You Only Live Twice / Jackson - Nancy Sinatra 16 15 15 18 20 9435
        12 16 Respect - Aretha Franklin 15 16 17 17 15 9260
        15 17 Take Me In Your Arms And Love Me - Gladys Knight and The Pips 19 19 16 20 18 8355
        25 18 007 - Desmond Dekker 17 18 19 16 19 8120
        23 19 Tramp - Otis Redding and Carla Thomas 18 17 20 15 21 8000
        14 20 Groovin' - The Young Rascals 20 23 18 21 16 7125
        NEW 21 Creeque Alley - The Mamas And Papas 21 20 23 19 17 6590
        17 22 Carrie Anne - The Hollies 23 21 26 25 26 4275
        18 23 Seven Rooms Of Gloom - The Four Tops 26 26 21 27 28 4155
        29 24 Annabella - John Walker 22 27 24 22 24 4045
        27 25 Marta / My World - The Bachelors 24 29 22 26 22 3915
        24 26 Tonight In Tokyo - Sandie Shaw 25 30 25 24 23 3080
        NEW 27 Trying To Forget - Jim Reeves 27 27 27 23 2600
        NEW 28 Gin House - Amen Corner 29 25 30 27 1640
        NEW 29 Even The Bad Times Are Good - The Tremeloes 30 23 1600
        21 30 If I Were A Rich Man - Topol 28 28 28 25 1560
        Jackson - Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood 22
        Here Comes The Nice - The Small Faces 30 29 29 620
        Strange Brew - Cream 29 500
        Don't Sleep In The Subway - Petula Clark 30 85
        The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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        • You are not combining Nancy's - You Only Live Twice and Nancy and Lee's - Jackson on the NME chart? It's just a double A side, not two separate records. In the end it's just a flaw in NME's compilation, with some retailers putting down the Bond Theme and some putting down Jackson. It's unlikely that any shop put them both down in the top 50. Unless the person filling in the chart return was a bit thick?
          I thought you had a way of putting them together without giving the record to greater shove up the chart?

          It's a shame the record company didn't release both sides as separate singles. As this split clearly stopped the Bond Theme reaching the top ten. Even the Real Chart only had it at 12 though it stayed 23 weeks selling nearly 700K.

          Some of the Pirate Radio stations clearly hated the Bond Theme, especially Radio London. Who always listed Jackson in it's made up top 40. But I think it's much better than Jackson! I suspect if the Record Company had known that the "Theme" would get some stick from the Pirates, they would have issued it separate.

          Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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          • The normal system of omitting NME would not be applicable in this case as no other chart put the disc at a higher position.

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            • I followed the same practise for this record as all others that had split sides on NME since I started with 1964.
              I look at the averaged chart position for the main side then exclude NME and look at the averaged chart position from the other papers, whichever of the two gives the higher position is the one used. It is the only method to fairly determine which is the best averaged position for the record in total.
              But for the record here, Jackson's chart position on NME did not affect the Ultimate Averaged Chart position in either method, it's averaged position remained the same in both methods.
              It's NME chart position is listed separately to simply complete the chart positions for NME's Top 30.
              The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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              • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                There are 14 minor differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

                Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 12th 1967. Enjoy !

                The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 12th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total
                Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                2 1 San Francisco - Scott McKenzie 1 1 1 1 1 19050
                1 2 All You Need Is Love - The Beatles 2 2 2 2 2 18415
                4 3 Death Of A Clown - Dave Davies 3 4 3 4 3 17480
                7 4 I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Tom Jones 4 3 5 3 4 17195
                3 5 It Must Be Him - Vikki Carr 5 7 4 5 5 16360
                9 6 I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder 6 5 7 6 7 15740
                10 7 Up Up And Away - The Johnny Mann Singers 7 6 6 7 8 15605
                14 8 Just Loving You - Anita Harris 9 8 8 9 11 14250
                5 9 She'd Rather Be With Me - The Turtles 8 9 10 8 6 14075
                8 10 See Emily Play - Pink Floyd 11 11 9 11 10 13285
                6 11 Alternate Title - The Monkees 10 10 11 10 9 13170
                11 12 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 12 12 12 12 13 11980
                13 13 Let's Pretend - Lulu 13 14 14 13 14 10895
                15 14 You Only Live Twice / Jackson - Nancy Sinatra 15 16 13 18 16 10075
                21 15 Creeque Alley - The Mamas And Papas 14 13 19 15 12 9815
                12 16 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 16 17 15 16 17 9490
                18 17 007 - Desmond Dekker 17 15 16 17 19 9370
                19 18 Tramp - Otis Redding and Carla Thomas 18 18 17 14 22 8565
                NEW 19 The House That Jack Built - The Alan Price Set 20 20 21 21 20 6635
                29 20 Even The Bad Times Are Good - The Tremeloes 19 19 23 23 15 6560
                17 21 Take Me In Your Arms And Love Me - Gladys Knight and The Pips 21= 22 20 20 21 6500
                28 22 Gin House - Amen Corner 21= 21 22 22 18 6255
                16 23 Respect - Aretha Franklin 23 26 18 19 23 6130
                25 24 Marta / My World - The Bachelors 24 23 24 25 24 4545
                27 25 Trying To Forget - Jim Reeves 26 24 28 26 2650
                24 26 Annabella - John Walker 25 25 27 25 2410
                20 27 Groovin' - The Young Rascals 27 27 24 29 1870
                26 28 Tonight In Tokyo - Sandie Shaw 28= 26 28 28 1805
                NEW 29 A Bad Night - Cat Stevens 28= 27 29 26 1425
                22 30 Carrie Anne - The Hollies 30 29 700
                Jackson - Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood 25
                Seven Rooms Of Gloom - The Four Tops 29 30 650
                Time Seller - The Spencer Davis Group 28 600
                If I Were A Rich Man - Topol 30 30 27 440
                Tallyman - Jeff Beck 30 85





                The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                  The BBC chart again with lots of ties including a joint #2.
                  There are 12 minor differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

                  Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 19th 1967. Enjoy !

                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 19th 1967 NME MM DISC RR Total
                  Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 100 85 Points
                  Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                  1 1 San Francisco - Scott McKenzie 1 1 1 1 1 19050
                  2 2 All You Need Is Love - The Beatles 2= 3 2 3 2 18115
                  4 3 I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Tom Jones 2= 2 3 2 3 18080
                  3 4 Death Of A Clown - Dave Davies 4 4 4 5 4 17045
                  6 5 I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder 5 6 5 4 5 16410
                  7 6 Up Up And Away - The Johnny Mann Singers 6 5 6 6 6 16075
                  8 7 Just Loving You - Anita Harris 7 7 7 8 7 15140
                  5 8 It Must Be Him - Vikki Carr 8 8 9 7 10 14285
                  19 9 The House That Jack Built - The Alan Price Set 9 11 8 10 9 13720
                  20 10 Even The Bad Times Are Good - The Tremeloes 10 9 10 12 8 13505
                  15 11 Creeque Alley - The Mamas And Papas 12 12 11 11 12 12415
                  9 12 She'd Rather Be With Me - The Turtles 11 10 15 9 11 12100
                  22 13 Gin House - Amen Corner 15 14 13 17 16 10575
                  10 14 See Emily Play - Pink Floyd 13= 18 14 14 13 10080
                  11 15 Alternate Title - The Monkees 13= 15 17 13 14 9945
                  12 16 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 16 13 16 15 21 9800
                  14 17 You Only Live Twice - Nancy Sinatra 17 19 12 20 15 9610
                  18 18 Tramp - Otis Redding and Carla Thomas 18 17 18 16 18 8655
                  17 19 007 - Desmond Dekker 19 16 19 18 19 8320
                  13 20 Let's Pretend - Lulu 20 24 20 19 17 6540
                  NEW 21 Itchycoo Park - The Small Faces 22 20 24 22 20 5785
                  NEW 22 Pleasant Valley Sunday - The Monkees 21 22 23 21 22 5565
                  16 23 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 23= 30 21 23 23 4180
                  29 24 A Bad Night - Cat Stevens 23= 21 25 27 3900
                  NEW 25 Time Seller - The Spencer Davis Group 26= 28 22 26 30 3435
                  NEW 26 Excerpt From A Teenage Opera - Keith West 25 25 28 24 25 3160
                  NEW 27 The Day I Met Marie - Cliff Richard 27 30 25 27 1990
                  NEW 28 You Keep Me Hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge 28 23 28 1855
                  21 29 Take Me In Your Arms And Love Me - Gladys Knight and The Pips 29 27 29 26 1625
                  25 30 Trying To Forget - Jim Reeves 30 26 24 1595
                  Jackson - Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood 29
                  Respect - Aretha Franklin 26= 26 28 1550
                  Annabella - John Walker 29 29 670
                  Marta / My World - The Bachelors 30 100
                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                  • Penny Valentine in Disc, review of Alan Price record:
                    The song is about an asylum.... And I had to laugh at the end, when he decides to join them in there because he's killed all the flowers in Tennessee. Perhaps HE was tired of Flowerpower too! ... Not one of his best.
                    Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                    • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                      The first Rolling Stones single I didn't really like debuts this week. It was a weak single by their standard.

                      Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending August 26th 1967. Enjoy !

                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending August 26th 1967 NME MM RR Total
                      Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                      Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                      1 1 San Francisco - Scott McKenzie 1 1 1 1 16050
                      3 2 I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Tom Jones 2 2 2 2 15515
                      5 3 I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder 3 3 3 8 14555
                      2 4 All You Need Is Love - The Beatles 4 6 4 3 14130
                      10 5 Even The Bad Times Are Good - The Tremeloes 5 5 5 4 13995
                      9 6 The House That Jack Built - The Alan Price Set 6 4 6 5 13860
                      4 7 Death Of A Clown - Dave Davies 7 7 7 7 12840
                      7 8 Just Loving You - Anita Harris 8 8 8 6 12475
                      6 9 Up Up And Away - The Johnny Mann Singers 9 9 9 10 11685
                      8 10 It Must Be Him - Vikki Carr 11 10 10 13 10980
                      11 11 Creeque Alley - The Mamas And Papas 10 12 11 9 10670
                      22 12 Pleasant Valley Sunday - The Monkees 12 11 12 11 10450
                      13 13 Gin House - Amen Corner 13 17 13 12 8915
                      21 14 Itchycoo Park - The Small Faces 14 15 15 14 8645
                      26 15 Excerpt From A Teenage Opera - Keith West 15 18 16 18 7455
                      12 16 She'd Rather Be With Me - The Turtles 16 20 17 15 7060
                      17 17 You Only Live Twice - Nancy Sinatra 17 21 14 23 6930
                      18 18 Tramp - Otis Redding and Carla Thomas 18 19 19 21 6250
                      NEW 19 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 19 14 24 19 6170
                      NEW 20 We Love You / Dandelion - The Rolling Stones 20 13 26 17 6040
                      27 21 The Day I Met Marie - Cliff Richard 22 21 20 24 5345
                      16 22 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 21 24 22 16 4925
                      14 23 See Emily Play - Pink Floyd 23 26 18 27 4590
                      19 24 007 - Desmond Dekker 24 25 21 25 4210
                      NEW 25 Heroes And Villains - The Beach Boys 25 16 28 26 4175
                      15 26 Alternate Title - The Monkees 26 30 23 22 2965
                      24 27 A Bad Night - Cat Stevens 27 25 20 2435
                      28 28 You Keep Me Hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge 28 23 28 1855
                      20 29 Let's Pretend - Lulu 29 27 29 1170
                      NEW 30 There Must Be A Way - Frankie Vaughan 28 600
                      Jackson - Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood 27
                      Time Seller - The Spencer Davis Group 30 29 500
                      The Burning Of The Midnight Lamp - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 29 400
                      A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum 30 30 335
                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                      • FYI, for this week, when Disc ceased compiling its own charts and started carrying the Melody Maker charts, Alan Smith says:

                        "When the M.M sample was joined by that of Disc from 19th August 1967, the combined sample came close to 300 returns!"

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                        • In the same post, opening 'Updated chart history', he goes into more detail saying: "Disc cut their compiling to 30 to 50 phone calls which main compiler Fred Zebedee would combine with Melody Makers, 200 plus postal sample to make a combined chart of approximately 250-280 postal and phoned returns."

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                          • Originally posted by RokinRobinOfLocksley View Post
                            FYI, for this week, when Disc ceased compiling its own charts and started carrying the Melody Maker charts, Alan Smith says:

                            "When the M.M sample was joined by that of Disc from 19th August 1967, the combined sample came close to 300 returns!"
                            Alan Smith did a lot of research into numbers of store returns over the years hence why I chose to use his figures as the best available guide for the Ultimate Averaged Chart. As Alan stated and Robin and Splodj highlighted above MM were using up to 300 when Disc adopted the MM chart but I chose to continue with 250 as a high enough figure for MM as using a figure of 300 would overwhelm the joint 285 stores from NME and RR and therefore make the averaged chart MM dominant.

                            Brian
                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                            • In any case, it is within Alan Smith's 250-280 range for the combined total.

                              If MM were confident that they had the largest sample, particularly now that Zebedee had sprung into action for them, I don't know why they didn't shout it from the rooftops.
                              Last edited by Splodj; Thu October 22, 2020, 20:18.

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                              • As I look at these charts as I compile them and listen to some of the songs as well while I do, I wonder where did it all go wrong, how has it been possible to go from this era of music to the offerings we have today.
                                Last edited by MrTibbs; Thu October 22, 2020, 21:51.
                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                • The answer to that Brian is that they raised the school leaving age from 15 to 16 in 1973 and that changed the youth culture. These days the kids are not earning money for themselves right past 18. And the record industry relied on that money.

                                  The last few posts on Disc have opened up the debate on the figures Brian uses for shops taking part. He had 100 for Disc and we now find it was only 50. This does fit in with practices to stop hyping. Having 100 on the list, but only using 50. This way the Record Companies have to hype all 100 known shops. Much more expensive, but of course not impossible. I suspect also if you have to phone all the shops, it's much easier to phone the next on the list if one is engaged.
                                  So Melody Maker used ALL the shops? And they changed the way it was calculated too. That explains a lot. Since I am way ahead of Brian in the 1967 charts. Should finish them in the next few weeks. When I have been looking at the charts of them all, I noticed after Disc lost it's chart that there was a change in the MM chart. In-fact I would say that even Record Retailer seems more realistic than MM. And that is based on the TOTP effect. The sales increases for the records after each show. MM can be two weeks late getting a record into the top 30 after a TOTP appearance.
                                  Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                                  • Yeah, Disc cut their sampling from around a hundred to between 30 and 50 to add to the MM tally. Alan Smith's Updated Chart History is an invaluable resource of chart information, well researched and authorative, and followed by many so that's why I tend to follow his evidence for my information and not speculative unreliable sources.
                                    The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                    • Graham76man
                                      Graham76man commented
                                      Editing a comment
                                      Yes I helped Alan Smith with some of the information for his Chart History.

                                  • One thing he claims is that Record Mirror's charts were brought down by a postage price increase in 1961 that they could not afford but Melody Maker could. Was there a price increase in 1961? Historic postage rate sites indicate there were no increases between 1957 and 1965.

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                                    • When I was down in the Newspaper Library copying charts a few years back, and was copying the Record Mirror itself, they themselves cited that as the reason in their paper, that costs of postage had become too expensive to continue with their own chart. Given what you say about postage not rising it well have been an excuse used at the time to change over to the RR chart.
                                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                      • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                        Traffic enter with the brilliant Hole In My Shoe. Rock On !

                                        Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 2nd 1967. Enjoy !

                                        The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 2nd 1967 NME MM RR Total
                                        Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                                        Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                        1 1 San Francisco - Scott McKenzie 1 1 2 1 15800
                                        19 2 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 2 3 1 3 15480
                                        2 3 I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Tom Jones 3 2 3 2 15265
                                        6 4 The House That Jack Built - The Alan Price Set 4 4 4 4 14445
                                        5 5 Even The Bad Times Are Good - The Tremeloes 5 5 6 5 13660
                                        3 6 I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder 6 6 5 8 13455
                                        8 7 Just Loving You - Anita Harris 7 8 7 7 12640
                                        20 8 We Love You / Dandelion - The Rolling Stones 8 7 8 10 12335
                                        4 9 All You Need Is Love - The Beatles 9 9 10 6 11775
                                        12 10 Pleasant Valley Sunday - The Monkees 10 10 11 11 10900
                                        15 11 Excerpt From A Teenage Opera - Keith West 11 13 9 12 10715
                                        7 12 Death Of A Clown - Dave Davies 12 14 13 9 9770
                                        25 13 Heroes And Villains - The Beach Boys 13 11 15 13 9530
                                        9 14 Up Up And Away - The Johnny Mann Singers 14 15 12 14 9395
                                        14 15 Itchycoo Park - The Small Faces 15 12 14 18 9155
                                        11 16 Creeque Alley - The Mamas And Papas 16 17 17 15 7660
                                        13 17 Gin House - Amen Corner 17 19 16 16 7425
                                        10 18 It Must Be Him - Vikki Carr 18 16 19 17 7190
                                        21 19 The Day I Met Marie - Cliff Richard 19 21 18 23 5930
                                        NEW 20 Let's Go To San Francisco - The Flowerpot Men 21 21 20 25 5260
                                        17 21 You Only Live Twice / Jackson - Nancy Sinatra 20 23 22 20 4785
                                        NEW 22 The Burning Of The Midnight Lamp - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 24 18 23 4600
                                        28 23 You Keep Me Hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge 22 20 25 22 4465
                                        22 24 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 23 28 21 19 4120
                                        16 25 She'd Rather Be With Me - The Turtles 25 26 27 21 2850
                                        27 26 A Bad Night - Cat Stevens 27 30 24 26 2375
                                        24 27 007 - Desmond Dekker 28 24 28 29 2320
                                        18 28 Tramp - Otis Redding and Carla Thomas 26 29 26 24 2245
                                        30 29 There Must Be A Way - Frankie Vaughan 29 25 30 1450
                                        NEW 30 Hole In My Shoe - Traffic 30 27 800
                                        Reflections - Diana Ross and The Supremes 29 500
                                        Alternate Title - The Monkees 27 340
                                        See Emily Play - Pink Floyd 28 255
                                        Time Seller - The Spencer Davis Group 30 85


                                        The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                        • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                          There are 12 minor differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart.

                                          Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending September 9th 1967. Enjoy !

                                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending September 9th 1967 NME MM RR Total
                                          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                                          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                          2 1 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 1 1 1 1 16050
                                          3 2 I'll Never Fall In Love Again - Tom Jones 2 3 2 2 15315
                                          1 3 San Francisco - Scott McKenzie 3 2 3 3 15180
                                          11 4 Excerpt From A Teenage Opera - Keith West 4 5 4 4 14245
                                          5 5 Even The Bad Times Are Good - The Tremeloes 5 6 5 6 13625
                                          8 6 We Love You / Dandelion - The Rolling Stones 7 4 7 8 13355
                                          4 7 The House That Jack Built - The Alan Price Set 6 7 6 5 13260
                                          6 8 I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder 8 8 8 9 12220
                                          7 9 Just Loving You - Anita Harris 9 9 9 7 11940
                                          10 10 Pleasant Valley Sunday - The Monkees 10 11 10 11 10950
                                          13 11 Heroes And Villains - The Beach Boys 11 10 11 12 10815
                                          15 12 Itchycoo Park - The Small Faces 12 12 12 10 10335
                                          9 13 All You Need Is Love - The Beatles 13 13 13 13 9630
                                          20 14 Let's Go To San Francisco - The Flowerpot Men 14 14 14 15 9010
                                          19 15 The Day I Met Marie - Cliff Richard 15 21 15 14 7445
                                          22 16 The Burning Of The Midnight Lamp - The Jimi Hendrix Experience 16 15 21 18 6805
                                          14 17 Up Up And Away - The Johnny Mann Singers 18 20 18 20 6385
                                          NEW 18 Reflections - Diana Ross and The Supremes 20 17 20 23 6230
                                          12 19 Death Of A Clown - Dave Davies 17 25 16 16 6225
                                          17 20 Gin House - Amen Corner 19 24 17 17 6090
                                          23 21 You Keep Me Hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge 21 16 22 22 6015
                                          16 22 Creeque Alley - The Mamas And Papas 22 22 19 19 5820
                                          29 23 There Must Be A Way - Frankie Vaughan 24 19 23 27 4740
                                          18 24 It Must Be Him - Vikki Carr 23 23 24 21 4200
                                          30 25 Hole In My Shoe - Traffic 27 17 2800
                                          26 26 A Bad Night - Cat Stevens 25 26 26 26 2675
                                          21 27 You Only Twice / Jackson - Nancy Sinatra 28 29 25 25 2410
                                          24 28 There Goes My Everything - Engelbert Humperdinck 26 27 27 24 2395
                                          NEW 29 Black Velvet Band - The Dubliners 29 30 28 28 1205
                                          28 30 Tramp - Otis Redding and Carla Thomas 30 28 30 30 935
                                          007 - Desmond Dekker 29 29 670
                                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                          • You’re going so fast that it almost makes me dizzy, I’m thoroughly impressed. Agree with your comments on Alan’s chart history, his updated version is the chart Bible. Understand your 300 MM dilemma. Mathematically it would seem right to not reduce that, but it can’t change much. However, your average chart is anyway the most accurate chart representation prior to when the official chart finally succeeded in reaching accuracy.

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                                            • Thanks kjell. It's always encouraging and spurs me on when you guys tell me the chart is hitting the right notes. Pardon the pun.
                                              Here is my dilemma. You say I'm going so fast it's making you dizzy lol when I post 2 charts a day.
                                              I'm already working on June 1968, 9 months ahead of here so I'm well stocked up with charts, so tell me guys, do u want 1 chart per day or 2 ?, I don't mind either way but I'm also aware lots of you like to study the chart in detail, so over to u ? Advise me.

                                              Brian
                                              The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                              • Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
                                                I don't mind either way but I'm also aware lots of you like to study the chart in detail Brian
                                                I prefer 2. If we like to have a good look at charts we can take our time. It's like reading a book, just because all the pages are there we don't have to look at the last page.

                                                Originally posted by MrTibbs View Post
                                                As I look at these charts as I compile them and listen to some of the songs as well while I do, I wonder where did it all go wrong, how has it been possible to go from this era of music to the offerings we have today.
                                                I am sure you posted more last time I looked and I couldn't agree more with what you did say. I always hoped I wouldn't be the parent that said to their kids "What's this rubbish you are listening to" I do talk to the younger generation and I struggle to find anyone who likes all this mumble (c)rap.

                                                MrTibbs my favourite topic, love it
                                                Keep the fire burning like the first time feeling

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                                                • Thanks for that Brain, that's helpful.
                                                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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