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  • Greetings Pop Pickers !

    Here we go ! Onward and Upward into 1968

    There are 18 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

    Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 6th 1968

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 6th 1968 NME MM RR Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 1 1 1 1 16050
    2 2 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 2 2 4 2 15015
    3 3 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 4 3 2 8 14805
    4 4 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 3 4 3 3 14780
    9 5 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 6 7 5 4 13595
    6 6 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 6 5 6 6 13575
    8 7 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 8 8 7 7 12640
    7 8 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 7 6 11 5 12210
    11 9 World - The Bee Gees 9 9 10 12 11265
    5 10 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 11 10 9 14 11145
    13 11 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 10 11 12 9 10620
    10 12 Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry 13 14 8 15 10510
    12 13 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 12 12 14 10 9835
    15 14 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 14 13 16 11 9050
    14 15 Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark Five 15 16 13 17 8690
    16 16 All My Love - Cliff Richard 18 15 17 18 7805
    18 17 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 19 19 15 16 7675
    17 18 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 16 17 18 13 7580
    21 19 The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 17 18 20 21 6200
    19 20 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 20 22 19 19 5820
    22 21 Love Is All Around - The Troggs 23 23 22 26 4275
    20 22 Jackie - Scott Walker 21 21 26 22 4015
    25 23 Big Spender - Shirley Bassey 24 27 21 24 3895
    23 24 There Must Be A Way - Frankie Vaughan 26 24 24 30 3235
    24 25 I Feel Love Coming On - Felice Taylor 25 25 25 25 3210
    26 26 Susannah's Still Alive - Dave Davies 22 20 20 3135
    28 27 So Tired - Frankie Vaughan 27 23 27 2340
    NEW 28 Paradise Lost - The Herd 28 28 23 1430
    RE 29 Soul Man - Sam and Dave 29 27 28 1255
    27 30 Baby Now That I've Found You - The Foundations 30 26 1000
    Zabadak - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 28 30 850
    I Only Live To Love You - Cilla Black 29 29 670
    There Is A Mountain - Donovan 29 400
    Chain Of Fools - Aretha Franklin 30 200
    The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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    • Magical Mystery Tour moves in mysterious ways in the MM charts. After climbing more slowly, it is about to take a leap ...

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      • Greetings Pop Pickers !

        There are 8 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

        Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 13th 1968

        The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 13th 1968 NME MM RR Total
        Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
        Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
        1 1 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 1 1 3 1 15550
        2 2 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 2 4 1 2 15365
        6 3 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 3 2 2 5 15260
        8 4 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 4 3 4 3 14730
        13 5 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 5 5 5 4 13995
        5 6 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 6 7 6 6 13175
        4 7 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 7 6 7 7 13040
        9 8 World - The Bee Gees 8 8 8 12 11965
        11 9 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 9 9 10 9 11520
        7 10 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 11 11 9 11 11200
        3 11 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 10 10 11 8 11155
        10 12 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 13 12 12 13 10080
        14 13 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 12 13 13 10 9885
        18 14 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 14 14 14 14 9095
        20 15 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 15 15 17 16 7975
        12 16 Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry 16 18 15 18 7705
        16 17 All My Love - Cliff Richard 17 19 16 17 7340
        NEW 18 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 18 20 18 15 6810
        19 19 The Other's Man's Grass - Petula Clark 19 17 21 20 6235
        28 20 Paradise Lost - The Herd 20 21 22 21 5100
        17 21 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 21 26 20 19 4770
        NEW 22 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 23 16 24 4750
        15 23 Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark Five 22 27 19 22 4565
        NEW 24 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 24 22 26 23 3730
        22 25 Jackie - Scott Walker 25 27 23 24 3395
        NEW 26 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 26 24 27 27 2740
        26 27 Susannah's Still Alive - Dave Davies 27 22 26 2225
        23 28 Big Spender - Shirley Bassey 30 25 1500
        NEW 29 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 29 25 1200
        NEW 30 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 28 30 25 760
        Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 28 750
        I Only Live To Love You - Cilla Black 29 29 670
        Chain Of Fools - Aretha Franklin 29 400
        I Second That Emotion - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 28 255
        Love Is All Around - The Troggs 30 200
        I Feel Love Coming On - Felice Taylor 30 85


        The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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        • 'Judy In Disguise' - a great song. I also love the version by Silicon Teens which was released in January 1980. I also love the kitsch sound of 'Kites' by Simon Dupree. It doesn't matter how many times I hear the song, I never get fed up of hearing it.

          My mum used to own a compilation album which contained 'She Wears My Ring' by Solomon King. I remember being surprised when I found out it was a hit in 1968 as it sounds a decade out of date.

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          • Yeah, agree Robbie, some cracking toons on this chart, John Fred, Simon Dupree, Monkees, Four Tops, Georgie Fame, Both Beatles, Long John Baldry, Scaffold (Thank U Very Much for 'luv'), Scott Walker, Plastic Penny, all my pocket money went on those back in the day.
            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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            • So the MMT EP made no. 1 in the Melody Maker (and DISC) chart. Here's a scan from DISC dated 13th January 1968, with some sales figures.



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              • Thanks for that Brian it confirms that by 13th January MMT was indeed already a big seller with more sales to come so perhaps its inclusion in the Top Ten singles of 1967 was justified after all.
                The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                  There are 12 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

                  Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 20th 1968

                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 20th 1968 NME MM RR Total
                  Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                  Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                  5 1 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 1 1 1 2 15965
                  4 2 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 2 2 3 5 15010
                  2 3 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 4 6 2 4 14545
                  3 4 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 5 3 4 6 14475
                  1 5 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 3 4 5 1 14450
                  18 6 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 6 5 6 3 13830
                  22 7 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 7 7 7 8 12755
                  7 8 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 8 8 8 7 12390
                  8 9 World - The Bee Gees 9 9 9 11 11600
                  6 10 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 10 10 10 10 11235
                  9 11 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 11 11 12 12 10365
                  15 12 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 13 12 11 14 10245
                  11 13 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 12 14 13 9 9770
                  24 14 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 14 13 14 13 9380
                  10 15 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 15 17 16 15 7910
                  13 16 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 16 18 15 16 7875
                  26 17 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 18 15 18 22 7215
                  14 18 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 19 19 17 19 6920
                  20 19 Paradise Lost - The Herd 17 16 21 20 6435
                  12 20 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 20 20 19 17 6390
                  19 21 The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 21 24 20 21 5000
                  16 22 Let The Heartaches Begin - Long John Baldry 22 23 23 23 4280
                  17 23 All My Love - Cliff Richard 24 29 22 25 3160
                  30 24 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 23 26 27 18 3105
                  NEW 25 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 25 25 25 27 3040
                  NEW 26 Darlin' - The Beach Boys 27 21 28 2750
                  25 27 Jackie - Scott Walker 26 24 24 2345
                  29 28 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 28 22 30 1885
                  21 29 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 29 26 26 1675
                  NEW 30 The Mighty Quinn - Manfred Mann 30 27 800
                  Suddenly You Love Me - The Tremeloes 28 600
                  Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark Five 30 28 505
                  I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving - Herman's Hermits 29 500
                  Mr. Second Class - The Spencer Davis Group 30 200
                  The Best Part Of Breaking Up - The Symbols 29 170
                  The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                  • There was another interview with Dick James in Disc and Music Echo when 'All You Need Is Love' was released, where he goes into the arrangements he made to get it pressed quickly and makes a fairly accurate estimate of its total sales.

                    On the subject of sales figures for 1967 I share the scepticism about accuracy, but tend to believe the relative sales declared by individual record companies. So for example when EMI say that 'All You Need Is Love' sold more than 'Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields Forever' I see no reason to think they are lying.

                    Incidentally DandME did a points chart for 1967 where the 3 Dumpertruck singles also formed the top 3, albeit with 'The Last Waltz' on top.

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                    • lmao @ Dumpertruck
                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                      • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                        Amen Corner wiped the floor with American Breed's version of Bend Me Shape Me. Superb !

                        There are 11 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

                        Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending January 27th 1968

                        The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending January 27th 1968 NME MM RR Total
                        Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                        Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                        6 1 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 1 1 1 2 15965
                        1 2 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 2 2 2 1 15600
                        7 3 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 3 3 3 3 14980
                        4 4 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 4 4 5 6 14025
                        2 5 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 6 5 4 7 13990
                        14 6 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 5 6 6 4 13545
                        3 7 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 7 8 7 5 12810
                        5 8 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 8 7 7 8 12755
                        12 9 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 9 10 10 9 11320
                        17 10 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 10 9 11 10 11185
                        8 11 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 11 12 9 16 10575
                        24 12 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 12 13 15 13 9130
                        9 13 World - The Bee Gees 13 16 13 12 9115
                        NEW 14 I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving - Herman's Hermits 14 14 17 17 8090
                        10 15 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 16 17 14 19 8070
                        NEW 16 Suddenly You Love Me - The Tremeloes 15 14 21 14 7345
                        11 17 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 19 23 12 20 7285
                        19 18 Paradise Lost - The Herd 18 19 18 15 7010
                        13 19 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 20 21 16 18 6855
                        30 20 The Mighty Quinn - Manfred Mann 21 11 22 26 6675
                        NEW 21 Bend Me Shape Me - Amen Corner 17 17 23 11 6500
                        26 22 Darlin' - The Beach Boys 22 22 20 25 5060
                        16 23 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 23 26 19 23 4680
                        28 24 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 24 20 29 21 3550
                        25 25 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 25 24 25 24 3495
                        18 26 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 27 25 24 29 3120
                        15 27 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 26 27 28 22 2315
                        21 28 The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 28 28 26 27 2190
                        20 29 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 29 27 28 1255
                        NEW 30 Anniversary Waltz - Anita Harris 30 29 400
                        All My Love - Cliff Richard 30 30 335
                        The Best Part Of Breaking Up - The Symbols 30 200
                        The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                        • Originally posted by Splodj View Post
                          There was another interview with Dick James in Disc and Music Echo when 'All You Need Is Love' was released, where he goes into the arrangements he made to get it pressed quickly and makes a fairly accurate estimate of its total sales.
                          Is this the article? DAME 15 July 1967.



                          You can find it here.

                          https://worldradiohistory.com/UK/Dis...1967-07-15.pdf

                          Sales passed the 500,000 mark by 19th August 1967 and eventually 600,000.
                          (Although I have seen a figure of 760,000 for 1967 sales).

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                          • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                            There are 16 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

                            Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending February 3rd 1968

                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending February 3rd 1968 NME MM RR Total
                            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                            1 1 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 1 1 1 1 16050
                            3 2 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 2 2 2 3 15430
                            2 3 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 3 4 3 2 14865
                            6 4 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 4 3 4 4 14645
                            20 5 The Mighty Quinn - Manfred Mann 5 5 5 7 13740
                            12 6 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 6 6 6 8 13205
                            10 7 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 8 9 7 6 12525
                            21 8 Bend Me Shape Me - Amen Corner 7 7 9 5 12510
                            4 9 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 10 10 8 11 11650
                            16 10 Suddenly You Love Me - The Tremeloes 9 8 12 9 11220
                            9 11 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 11 12 10 10 10835
                            14 12 I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving - Herman's Hermits 13 13 11 14 10045
                            5 13 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 12 11 13 13 10030
                            7 14 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 14 15 14 12 9065
                            8 15 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 16 16 15 16 8275
                            24 16 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 15 14 18 15 8010
                            22 17 Darlin' - The Beach Boys 17 17 16 17 7740
                            11 18 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 18 18 17 20 7035
                            18 19 Paradise Lost - The Herd 19 19 20 19 6170
                            13 20 World - The Bee Gees 20 24 21 18 5005
                            17 21 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 21 30 19 24 3795
                            19 22 If The Whole World Stopped Lovin' - Val Doonican 22 29 23 21 3250
                            25 23 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 24 26 24 26 3175
                            15 24 Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 23 22 22 3015
                            30 25 Anniversary Waltz - Anita Harris 25 20 29 2700
                            NEW 26 Back On My Feet Again - The Foundations 29 21 2000
                            NEW 27 Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo 27 23 30 30 1935
                            NEW 28 Don't Stop The Carnival - The Alan Price Set 30 22 1800
                            28 29 The Other Man's Grass - Petula Clark 25 1500
                            23 30 Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 26 28 23 1430
                            31 The Best Part Of Breaking Up - The Symbols 28 27 25 1310
                            32 Something's Gotten Hold Of My Heart - Gene Pitney 27 28 1255
                            33 Careless Hands - Des O'Connor 26 1250
                            34 Words - The Bee Gees 25 1200
                            35 Bend Me Shape Me - The American Breed 28 600
                            36 The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 27 340
                            37 Honey Chile - Martha and The Vandellas 30 200
                            38 In And Out Of Love - Diana Ross and The Supremes 29 170


                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                            • Originally posted by brian05 View Post

                              Is this the article? DAME 15 July 1967.
                              Yes that is it. I saw it at the 1960smusicmagazines.com website, which unfortunately appears to have now started requiring you to go through password access and some dubious advertisment hurdles.

                              I assume you are aware of the post on this forum that goes into detail on Beatles singles and EP sales ...
                              https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...478#post808478

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                              • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                There are a massive18 minor differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

                                Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending February 10th 1968

                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending February 10th 1968 NME MM RR Total
                                Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                                Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                1 1 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 1 1 1 1 16050
                                5 2 The Mighty Quinn - Manfred Mann 2 3 2 2 15315
                                2 3 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 3 2 3 4 15095
                                6 4 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 6 4 4 9 14020
                                4 5 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 4 6 5 3 13880
                                8 6 Bend Me Shape Me - Amen Corner 5 5 6 5 13660
                                10 7 Suddenly You Love Me - The Tremeloes 7 7 7 6 12925
                                3 8 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 8 10 8 7 11990
                                12 9 I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving - Herman's Hermits 10 8 9 11 11800
                                16 10 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 9 9 10 8 11605
                                7 11 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 11 11 11 10 10785
                                17 12 Darlin' - The Beach Boys 12 12 12 15 9910
                                9 13 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 13 14 13 16 9175
                                11 14 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 14 13 14 17 9040
                                13 15 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 17 15 15 20 8135
                                27 16 Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo 15 17 18 12 7665
                                NEW 17 Words - The Bee Gees 16 16 19 14 7445
                                18 18 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 19 21 16 19 6770
                                14 19 Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 20 23 17 18 6205
                                28 20 Don't Stop The Carnival - The Alan Price Set 18 22 20 13 6080
                                26 21 Back On My Feet Again - The Foundations 21 18 24 23 5030
                                NEW 22 Fire Brigade - The Move 22 20 25 22 4465
                                25 23 Anniversary Waltz - Anita Harris 24 19 26 26 4075
                                23 24 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 23 25 23 21 4050
                                19 25 Paradise Lost - The Herd 25 27 22 24 3645
                                15 26 Hello Goodbye - The Beatles 26 21 30 2585
                                NEW 27 Bend Me Shape Me - The American Breed 28 24 1400
                                NEW 28 The Best Part Of Breaking Up - The Symbols 27 27 25 1310
                                21 29 Kites - Simon Dupree and The Big Sound 27 1000
                                NEW 30 So Much Love - Tony Blackburn 29 26 1000
                                World - The Bee Gees 28 750
                                Today - Sandie Shaw 29 30 650
                                Thank U Very Much - The Scaffold 29 500
                                I Second That Emotion - Smokey Robinson and The Miracles 30 27 340
                                The Last Waltz - Engelbert Humperdinck 28 255
                                Dear Delilah - Grapefruit 30 200
                                Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush - Traffic 29 170
                                The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                • Originally posted by Splodj View Post
                                  I assume you are aware of the post on this forum that goes into detail on Beatles singles and EP sales ...
                                  Yes. But the figures are on the conservative side since their total is about 4 million less than the official OCC singles total of 20,799,632 given in February 2004.

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                                  • However if you read George Martin's own biography, even he didn't know the true size of the Beatles sales. In fact the bosses at EMI were going to give him paltry Christmas bonus, which nearly resulting in him quitting. Then the "boss" offered a new deal on the bonus. When it came through, Martin was amazed how big it was. He thought they had made a mistake, saying that would mean sales at this sort of level. His boss said that's what they were. Martin concluded even with the bigger bonus, they were still robbing his eyes out!
                                    Anybody who believes record company figures is as thick as Trump.
                                    Even today many record company contracts still included a breakage reduction even for digital sales!
                                    The numbers of records stolen from shops or given away free for the shops to sell for deals would probably amount to equal of the figure talked about in real sales.

                                    Let's talk about distribution of records!
                                    The Newspaper article from 1964 that featured on this thread said there were 8,000 shops in the UK. So to cover those shops with a reasonable number of copies. Say 100 per shop. The record company needed to send out 800,000 copies. Even 10 copies requires 80,000 sent out.
                                    They reported to that 71 shops had supplied them with sales figures.
                                    They calculated the number of sales for the number one (3,954). This means that each one of those 71 shops must have at least 55 copies sent to them, assuming that the record company shared out the records evenly amongst the 71. Of course that probably didn't happen in reality. But it does show how vast the quantities of singles needed to be shipped out each week.
                                    The only accurate shipping figures that have been published are those done by that Colin chap in the 40's and early 50's.
                                    But even back then the record companies appear to have stopped distribution of massive sellers (at least big on the sheet music charts) while the record was still peaking.
                                    The reason the charts were important to record companies back in the 60's was it was the only way they could tell what was selling quickly. Orders from shops would have been slow coming back. Especially if the company had sent out 100,000 plus records!
                                    Many of the shops were not telling the Record Companies what they were selling anyway. The BMRB still had that problem in the late 70's.
                                    I think that many of the sales figures reported in the press were the record companies bragging to other record companies. You only have to look how much they were patting on the back each other when the Foundations went top in 1967. Full page adds in some of the press! Adds like that wasn't for the average Record Mirror, or NME reader. They were aimed simply at the other companies.
                                    Education for anyone aged 12 to 16 has made a mess of the world!

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                                    • Wow there's another surprise averaged #1 going to appear in 1968
                                      The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                      • BUT, it won't top the Ultimate Averaged chart
                                        The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                        • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                          There are 8 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

                                          Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending February 17th 1968


                                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending February 17th 1968 NME MM RR Total
                                          Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                                          Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                          2 1 The Mighty Quinn - Manfred Mann 1 1 1 1 16050
                                          1 2 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 2 2 2 2 15515
                                          6 3 Bend Me Shape Me - Amen Corner 3 3 3 3 14980
                                          4 4 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 4 4 4 5 14360
                                          3 5 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 5 5 6 4 13745
                                          7 6 Suddenly You Love Me - The Tremeloes 6 6 5 7 13540
                                          5 7 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 7 7 7 6 12925
                                          10 8 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 8 8 8 8 12305
                                          9 9 I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving - Herman's Hermits 9 9 9 11 11600
                                          16 10 Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo 10 10 11 9 11070
                                          12 11 Darlin' - The Beach Boys 11 11 10 12 10865
                                          22 12 Fire Brigade - The Move 12 11 13 10 10285
                                          17 13 Words - The Bee Gees 13 13 12 13 9880
                                          20 14 Don't Stop The Carnival - The Alan Price Set 14 16 14 16 8525
                                          8 15 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 15 15 17 14 8145
                                          11 16 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 16 17 16 15 7910
                                          13 17 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 17 19 15 17 7590
                                          21 18 Back On My Feet Again - The Foundations 18 18 20 18 6455
                                          14 19 Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 19 21 18 24 5845
                                          NEW 20 Cinderella Rockefella - Esther and Abi Ofarim 22 14 22 5650
                                          18 21 I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 20 26 18 20 5185
                                          23 22 Anniversary Waltz - Anita Harris 21 19 25 21 4750
                                          NEW 23 Rosie - Don Partridge 23 22 24 22 4315
                                          19 24 The Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 26 21 25 3010
                                          NEW 25 Today - Sandie Shaw 27 23 27 29 2770
                                          NEW 26 Green Tambourine - The Lemon Pipers 24 24 29 23 2580
                                          15 27 Walk Away Renee - The Four Tops 28 23 26 2425
                                          24 28 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 25 26 19 2270
                                          27 29 Bend Me Shape Me - The American Breed 29 25 30 28 1705
                                          28 30 The Best Part Of Breaking Up - The Symbols 30 28 27 1090
                                          What A Wonderful World - Louis Armstrong 26 1000
                                          So Much Love - Tony Blackburn 28 600
                                          The Legend Of Xanadu - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 29 400
                                          Dear Delilah - Grapefruit 29 400
                                          Honey Chile - Martha and The Vandellas 30 85
                                          The Ultimate Averaged Chart. The Definitive Chart Reflecting The Sixties.

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                                          • Greetings Pop Pickers !

                                            There are 13 differences this week in chart positions between the BBC Chart and The Ultimate Averaged Chart

                                            3 stonking new entries this week, from Otis, Louis, and Donovan. Magnifique !

                                            Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending February 24th 1968

                                            The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending February 24th 1968 NME MM RR Total
                                            Last This The Sound Survey Stores 200 250 85 Points
                                            Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart BBC TOP 30 Scored
                                            1 1 The Mighty Quinn - Manfred Mann 1 1 1 1 16050
                                            20 2 Cinderella Rockefella - Esther and Abi Ofarim 2 2 4 2 15015
                                            4 3 She Wears My Ring - Solomon King 3 3 3 3 14980
                                            3 4 Bend Me Shape Me - Amen Corner 4 4 2 5 14860
                                            2 5 Everlasting Love - The Love Affair 5 5 5 4 13995
                                            6 6 Suddenly You Love Me - The Tremeloes 9 6 7 11 12700
                                            12 7 Fire Brigade - The Move 7 9 6 8 12605
                                            10 8 Pictures Of Matchstick Men - Status Quo 6 7 8 7 12590
                                            5 9 Am I That Easy To Forget - Engelbert Humperdinck 8 8 10 6 11975
                                            8 10 Gimme Little Sign - Brenton Wood 10 10 9 10 11485
                                            7 11 Judy In Disguise - John Fred and His Playboy Band 11 11 11 9 10870
                                            11 12 Darlin' - The Beach Boys 13 13 12 14 9795
                                            13 13 Words - The Bee Gees 12 14 13 12 9515
                                            NEW 14 The Legend Of Xanadu - Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich 14 12 16 13 9080
                                            14 15 Don't Stop The Carnival - The Alan Price Set 15 15 14 15 8810
                                            9 16 I Can Take Or Leave Your Loving - Herman's Hermits 16 15 15 16 8475
                                            18 17 Back On My Feet Again - The Foundations 17 18 17 18 7205
                                            23 18 Rosie - Don Partridge 18 17 18 19 7070
                                            26 19 Green Tambourine - The Lemon Pipers 19 20 19 17 6390
                                            22 20 Anniversary Waltz - Anita Harris 20 19 24 23 4830
                                            16 21 Everything I Am - The Plastic Penny 21 24 22 20 4585
                                            25 22 Today - Sandie Shaw 23 21 23 27 4340
                                            17 23 Daydream Believer - The Monkees 22 26 21 22 4265
                                            15 24 The Ballad Of Bonnie And Clyde - Georgie Fame 24 30 20 21 3800
                                            NEW 25 What A Wonderful World - Louis Armstrong 25 25 27 2200
                                            NEW 26 Jennifer Juniper - Donovan 26 22 1800
                                            NEW 27 (Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay - Otis Redding 27 23 1600
                                            24 28 The Magical Mystery Tour (EP) - The Beatles 25 1500
                                            30 29 The Best Part Of Breaking Up - The Symbols 26 29 1420
                                            28 30 Nights In White Satin - The Moody Blues 29 26 28 1255
                                            I'm Coming Home - Tom Jones 30 28 26 1175
                                            Bend Me Shape Me - The American Breed 28 30 24 845
                                            So Much Love - Tony Blackburn 28 600
                                            Dear Delilah - Grapefruit 25 510
                                            Tin Soldier - The Small Faces 29 500
                                            Guitar Man - Elvis Presley 29 400
                                            Honey Chile - Martha and The Vandellas 30 85
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                                            • Not only are the new entries by Louis, Donovan and Otis excellent songs but I also love 'The Legend Of Xanadu'.

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                                              • On TOTP the whip stands out in my mind , lol, I also have to say surprisingly that Tony Blackburn's cover of Ben E Kings So Much Love was actually a competent version.
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                                                • Originally posted by Robbie View Post
                                                  Not only are the new entries by Louis, Donovan and Otis excellent songs but I also love 'The Legend Of Xanadu'.
                                                  "Xanadu" is surely the most esoteric word to feature in the title of two Number One singles.....

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                                                  • It won't go to #1 on The Ultimate Averaged Chart sadly as it only topped RR. It will peak at #2 as it did on MM and NME.
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