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  • braindeadpj
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    Welcome back Mr Tibbs. It looks like there's a rush on people going "Around the World" (x4) wearing "A White Sport Coat" (x2)(At first I read it as sports car would have been more apt - oh well!).

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    ​​​​Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 1st 1957

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 1st 1957 NME MM RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 65 25 60 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Butterfly - Andy Williams 1 1 1 4500
    3 2 Yes Tonight Josephine - Johnnie Ray 3 2 2 4285
    2 3 Rock-A-Billy - Guy Mitchell 2 3 3 4265
    4 4 When I Fall In Love - Nat King Cole 4 4 4 4050
    10 5 Freight Train - The Chas McDevitt Skiffle Group with Nancy Whiskey 5 6 6 3815
    5 6 I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Slim Whitman 7 5 5 3770
    8 7 Too Much - Elvis Presley 6 7 8 3605
    6 8 Cumberland Gap - Lonnie Donegan 8 9 9 3365
    7 9 Baby Baby - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers 12 8 7 3250
    9 10 Ninety-Nine Ways - Tab Hunter 9 10 11 3155
    14 11 Mr. Wonderful - Peggy Lee 10 14 10 3050
    NEW 12 Around The World - Gracie Fields 11 11 14 2820
    26 13 Around The World - Bing Crosby 14 16 12 2620
    11 14 Butterfingers - Tommy Steele 16 13 13 2505
    15 15 Chapel Of The Roses - Malcolm Vaughan 13 17 19 2240
    20 16 Around The World - Ronnie Hilton 14 15 2065
    29 17 I'm Sorry - The Platters 18 19 18 1925
    17 18 Long Tall Sally - Little Richard 15 16 1300
    16 19 Look Homeward Angel - Johnnie Ray 20 17 1115
    25 20 Young Love - Tab Hunter 19 20 1055
    12 21 The Banana Boat Song - Harry Belafonte 20 20 990
    19 22 The Girl Can't Help It - Little Richard (A) 18 20 985
    13 23 Butterfly - Charlie Gracie 17 910
    30 24 We Will Make Love - Russ Hamilton 21 650
    27 25 She's Got It - Little Richard (B) 29 12 605
    NEW 26 Little Darlin' - The Diamonds 22 585
    18 26 I'm Walkin' - Fats Domino 22 585
    23 28 Mangos - Rosemary Clooney 24 455
    22 29 Why Baby Why - Pat Boone 25 390
    RE 30 The World Is Mine - Malcolm Vaughan 26 325
    A White Sport Coat - Terry Dene 20 275
    A White Sport Coat - The King Brothers 27 260
    Around The World - Mantovani 27 260
    Streamline Train - The Vipers Skiffle Group 30 65
    21 Heart - Max Bygraves
    24 Party Doll - Buddy Knox
    28 Love Is A Golden Ring - Frankie Laine

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  • MrTibbs
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    Originally posted by Splodj View Post
    Great to see this historic project continuing, and that all is well with Mr Tibbs.

    First appearance of Peggy Lee. But she'd had hits in the USA since 1941, so is she featured in the Colin Brown book?
    Peggy Lee, without a doubt one of the all time greats !
    Thanks splodj for the welcome back.

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  • Splodj
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    Thanks. And maybe some 'bubbling unders' since then, so not as 'out of the blue' as it may appear.

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  • kingofskiffle
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    She is

    5 recordings

    1949 Mar 7 Don't Smoke In Bed
    1949 Jun 13 Riders In The Sky (A Cowboy Legend)
    1950 Apr 3 Sunshine Cake
    1951 Dec 10 The Christmas Spell / Song At Midnight
    And with Dean Martin
    1949 Apr 4 You Was / Powder Your Face With Sunshine

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  • Splodj
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    Great to see this historic project continuing, and that all is well with Mr Tibbs.

    First appearance of Peggy Lee. But she'd had hits in the USA since 1941, so is she featured in the Colin Brown book?

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  • kjell
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    Good to have you back, I was starting to get worried. By the way, you may use capital K since Kjell is in fact the first of my two first names. Guess work problems will disappear at retirement, but it took me nine months to get used to not working after reaching the age limit. Some habits die hard.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    ​​​​Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending May 25th 1957

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 25th 1957 NME MM RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 65 25 60 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Butterfly - Andy Williams 1 1 1 4500
    2 2 Rock-A-Billy - Guy Mitchell 2 2 2 4350
    5 3 Yes Tonight Josephine - Johnnie Ray 3 3 3 4200
    3 4 When I Fall In Love - Nat King Cole 4 4 4 4050
    11 5 I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Slim Whitman 7 5 5 3770
    4 6 Cumberland Gap - Lonnie Donegan 5 7 8 3670
    6 7 Baby Baby - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (B) 8 6 6 3620
    8 8 Too Much - Elvis Presley 9 7 7 3470
    7 9 Ninety-Nine Ways - Tab Hunter 6 10 10 3410
    9 10 Freight Train - The Chas McDevitt Skiffle Group with Nancy Whiskey 10 9 9 3235
    20 11 Butterfingers - Tommy Steele 13 12 11 2845
    10 12 The Banana Boat Song - Harry Belafonte 11 17 13 2730
    16 13 Butterfly - Charlie Gracie 12 17 14 2605
    NEW 14 Mr. Wonderful - Peggy Lee 15 12 2180
    18 15 Chapel Of The Roses - Malcolm Vaughan 14 17 19 2175
    12 16 Look Homeward Angel - Johnnie Ray 18 14 18 2050
    14 17 Long Tall Sally - Little Richard 24 11 16 1855
    22 18 I'm Walkin' - Fats Domino 24 15 1415
    15 19 The Girl Can't Help It - Little Richard (A) 27 12 20 1395
    NEW 20 Around The World - Ronnie Hilton 16 975
    19 21 Heart - Max Bygraves 22 16 960
    17 22 Why Baby Why - Pat Boone 21 20 925
    28 23 Mangos - Rosemary Clooney 17 910
    NEW 24 Party Doll - Buddy Knox 30 17 905
    13 25 Young Love - Tab Hunter 19 780
    NEW 26 Around The World - Bing Crosby 20 715
    RE 27 She's Got It - Little Richard (B) 28 15 595
    23 28 Love Is A Golden Ring - Frankie Laine 23 520
    29 29 I'm Sorry - The Platters 26 325
    NEW 30 We Will Make Love - Russ Hamilton 29 130
    26 True Love - Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly 30 65
    21 I'm Not A Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (A)
    24 Don't Forbid Me - Pat Boone
    25 Marianne - The Hilltoppers
    27 Norah Malone - Teresa Brewer
    30 Singing The Blues - Tommy Steele

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    ​​​​Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending May 18th 1957

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 18th 1957 NME MM RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 65 25 60 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
    2 1 Butterfly - Andy Williams 2 1 1 4435
    3 2 Rock-A-Billy - Guy Mitchell 1 2 2 4415
    8 3 When I Fall In Love - Nat King Cole 3 4 3 4175
    1 4 Cumberland Gap - Lonnie Donegan 4 3 5 4015
    11 5 Yes Tonight Josephine - Johnnie Ray 6 6 4 3870
    4 6 Baby Baby - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (B) 5 5 6 3840
    6 7 Ninety-Nine Ways - Tab Hunter 7 7 8 3540
    15 8 Too Much - Elvis Presley 10 8 7 3380
    7 9 Freight Train - The Chas McDevitt Skiffle Group with Nancy Whiskey 9 11 10 3190
    5 10 The Banana Boat Song - Harry Belafonte 8 12 11 3170
    9 11 I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Slim Whitman 11 9 9 3170
    13 12 Look Homeward Angel - Johnnie Ray 13 9 12 2860
    10 13 Young Love - Tab Hunter 12 13 15 2645
    12 14 Long Tall Sally - Little Richard 14 14 13 2610
    14 15 The Girl Can't Help It - Little Richard (A) 15 17 14 2410
    25 16 Butterfly - Charlie Gracie 17 19 19 1930
    21 17 Why Baby Why - Pat Boone 21 15 17 1890
    17 18 Chapel Of The Roses - Malcolm Vaughan 16 16 1875
    19 19 Heart - Max Bygraves 18 16 1220
    26 20 Butterfingers - Tommy Steele 19 18 1105
    20 21 I'm Not A Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (A) 20 18 1055
    18 22 I'm Walkin' - Fats Domino 25 20 1050
    22 23 Love Is A Golden Ring - Frankie Laine 19 780
    16 24 Don't Forbid Me - Pat Boone 22 585
    30 25 Marianne - The Hilltoppers 23 520
    24 26 True Love - Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly 24 455
    NEW 27 Norah Malone - Teresa Brewer 26 325
    28 28 Mangos - Rosemary Clooney 27 260
    NEW 29 I'm Sorry - The Platters 28 195
    RE 30 Singing The Blues - Tommy Steele 29 130
    Party Doll - Buddy Knox 30 65
    23 She's Got It - Little Richard (B)
    27 Don't You Rock Me Daddy-O - Lonnie Donegan
    29 Only You - The Platters

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  • MrTibbs
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    Greetings Pop Pickers !

    ​​​​Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending May 11th 1957

    Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

    The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 11th 1957 NME MM RM Total
    Last This The Sound Survey Stores 65 25 60 Points
    Week Week The Top 30 Singles Chart TOP 30 Scored
    1 1 Cumberland Gap - Lonnie Donegan 1 1 2 4440
    8 2 Butterfly - Andy Williams 2 2 1 4410
    6 3 Rock-A-Billy - Guy Mitchell 3 4 3 4175
    3 4 Baby Baby - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (B) 5 3 4 4010
    2 5 The Banana Boat Song - Harry Belafonte 3 5 6 3970
    7 6 Ninety-Nine Ways - Tab Hunter 6 9 5 3735
    14 7 Freight Train - The Chas McDevitt Skiffle Group with Nancy Whiskey 7 12 8 3415
    10 8 When I Fall In Love - Nat King Cole 9 11 7 3370
    12 9 I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Slim Whitman 11 5 9 3270
    4 10 Young Love - Tab Hunter 10 5 11 3215
    NEW 11 Yes Tonight Josephine - Johnnie Ray 8 14 12 3060
    5 12 Long Tall Sally - Little Richard 14 8 10 2940
    9 13 Look Homeward Angel - Johnnie Ray 12 10 13 2840
    13 14 The Girl Can't Help It - Little Richard (A) 15 13 14 2510
    NEW 15 Too Much - Elvis Presley 13 16 15 2505
    11 16 Don't Forbid Me - Pat Boone 19 16 17 1995
    NEW 17 Chapel Of The Roses - Malcolm Vaughan 18 18 1625
    20 18 I'm Walkin' - Fats Domino 22 16 1485
    19 19 Heart - Max Bygraves 16 18 1300
    15 20 I'm Not A Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (A) 23 19 1240
    27 21 Why Baby Why - Pat Boone 17 19 1210
    16 22 Love Is A Golden Ring - Frankie Laine 20 715
    25 23 She's Got It - Little Richard (B) 20 660
    18 24 True Love - Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly 21 650
    22 25 Butterfly - Charlie Gracie 24 455
    17 26 Butterfingers - Tommy Steele 15 400
    23 27 Don't You Rock Me Daddy-O - Lonnie Donegan 25 390
    26 28 Mangos - Rosemary Clooney 26 325
    RE 29 Only You - The Platters 20 275
    28 30 Marianne - The Hilltoppers 27 260
    Norah Malone - Teresa Brewer 28 195
    Party Doll - Buddy Knox 29 130
    30 The World Is Mine - Malcolm Vaughan 30 65
    21 Knee Deep In The Blues - Guy Mitchell
    24 Singing The Blues - Guy Mitchell
    29 Heart - The Johnston Brothers

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  • MrTibbs
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    I'm back !

    I have deleted the wrongly dated posted chart mentioned above guys by 'brain'. So here is the missing chart for 11th May, then the charts for 18th May and a new posted chart for May 25th.

    Brian

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  • braindeadpj
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    Sorry the message posted twice, I got an error the first time so tried again.....

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  • braindeadpj
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    Glad everything is OK with you Mr Tibbs. Sorry to hear that work got so busy due to COVID, though its good things are now improving. Stay safe and thank you for your work on the front line.
    Looking forward to seeing the rest of the Ultimate Averaged Charts.

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  • kingofskiffle
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    Glad you're okay. Hope things continue to improve, work wise.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Hi guys and thanks brain, Lonnie, Ronnie and kjell for thoughtfully enquiring if all is well both here and in private message.
    I'm happy to report that all is well with me personally but over the past week (because I'm a nurse in these difficult times ) I've had to put my shoulder to the wheel and do lots of extra shifts to cover for colleagues falling like dominoes with covid.

    But thankfully this has now eased considerably so I can get back to normal with my posts again starting tomorrow. I will post the correct chart mentioned above that I omitted and the next one due as well.

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  • kjell
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    I’ve been thinking he’s taken a well deserved holiday just as I do sometimes. Hope you haven’t been attacked by the pandemic Brian?

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  • Robbie
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    Yes, I'd noticed all had gone quiet in the thread. I hope everything is OK MrTibbs.

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  • kingofskiffle
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    Just checking that everything is continuing here, as no posts for a week. I hope you're okay MrTibbs.

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  • braindeadpj
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    Hello Mr Tibbs, I just realized that you have posted the 18th May Chart instead of the 11th May chart, so we're missing the 11th May chart. (It says the 11th above it and 18th within it and Butterfly was at 8 on the last chart you posted for the 4th May on the previous page).

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  • membranemusic
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    For your info, the Music Business Weekly Top 50 was published in the same week as the MM Top 30, which was the reason I stopped taking the MM for a while. Sadly I sold my copies in one of those life-changing decisions we all face!

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  • MrTibbs
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    Thanks again braindeadpj for repeatedly taking the time to like every posted UAC. Your gesture in doing so is much appreciated

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  • Splodj
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    Rock-a-Billy is the 2nd of 6 NME number ones that only it placed at the top in the 56-59 period. The first 3 when there were 2 other charts, the other 3 when there were 3 other charts.

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  • MrTibbs
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    Originally posted by kjell View Post
    I agree Brian, especially since the unreliability of the NME has been thoroughly disclosed. Contrary to former belief it seems RM had the most reliable chart during the later half of the 50ies. When the pandemic fog clears in BL we’ll be able to extend the RM chart of these years and compare the first year of top 50 RR charts with the extended RM. This may mean a major late 50ies breakthrough and a better evaluation of the early RR.
    I'm really quite excited about that future project kjell. A mammoth exercise though, hugely time consuming taking around 60 returns single handedly, calculating them, and then producing a Top Fifty chart. That said I think it's going to produce a really exciting and interesting chart for a number of comparisons especially as the RM sample of 60 will be almost double what RR were using at the time for their Top 50.

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  • kjell
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    I agree Brian, especially since the unreliability of the NME has been thoroughly disclosed. Contrary to former belief it seems RM had the most reliable chart during the later half of the 50ies. When the pandemic fog clears in BL we’ll be able to extend the RM chart of these years and compare the first year of top 50 RR charts with the extended RM. This may mean a major late 50ies breakthrough and a better evaluation of the early RR.

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  • Splodj
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    Originally posted by kjell View Post
    For some time Music Week in addition to their top 75 singles had 25 unranked bubblers weekly. I didn’t like that because it meant something to me whether a bubbler from a favourite artist was near the 75th position or near the 100th. I feel the same about the 31 - 50 area. I like to know the estimated position because there’s more interesting info in a 31 position than in a 50, even if I know that they both are not accurate. A 31 that maybe is really a 33 or 34 is a better approximation than a 50 that maybe really is a 46 or 54.
    I was not keen on the bubblers concept either. I would prefer to see the next level not only in order but also unfiltered - i.e. not someone else choosing which ones to show.

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