The Ultimate Averaged Chart - The BBC Chart Re-Imagined

[braindeadpj]

Welcome back Mr Tibbs. It looks like there's a rush on people going "Around the World" (x4) wearing "A White Sport Coat" (x2)(At first I read it as sports car would have been more apt - oh well!).

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending June 1st 1957

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending June 1st 1957							NME	MM	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey			Stores	65	25	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart					TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Butterfly - Andy Williams					1	1	1	4500
3	2	Yes Tonight Josephine - Johnnie Ray					3	2	2	4285
2	3	Rock-A-Billy - Guy Mitchell					2	3	3	4265
4	4	When I Fall In Love - Nat King Cole					4	4	4	4050
10	5	Freight Train - The Chas McDevitt Skiffle Group with Nancy Whiskey					5	6	6	3815
5	6	I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Slim Whitman					7	5	5	3770
8	7	Too Much - Elvis Presley					6	7	8	3605
6	8	Cumberland Gap - Lonnie Donegan					8	9	9	3365
7	9	Baby Baby - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers					12	8	7	3250
9	10	Ninety-Nine Ways - Tab Hunter					9	10	11	3155
14	11	Mr. Wonderful - Peggy Lee					10	14	10	3050
NEW	12	Around The World - Gracie Fields					11	11	14	2820
26	13	Around The World - Bing Crosby					14	16	12	2620
11	14	Butterfingers - Tommy Steele					16	13	13	2505
15	15	Chapel Of The Roses - Malcolm Vaughan					13	17	19	2240
20	16	Around The World - Ronnie Hilton					14		15	2065
29	17	I'm Sorry - The Platters					18	19	18	1925
17	18	Long Tall Sally - Little Richard						15	16	1300
16	19	Look Homeward Angel - Johnnie Ray						20	17	1115
25	20	Young Love - Tab Hunter					19	20		1055
12	21	The Banana Boat Song - Harry Belafonte					20	20		990
19	22	The Girl Can't Help It - Little Richard (A)						18	20	985
13	23	Butterfly - Charlie Gracie					17			910
30	24	We Will Make Love - Russ Hamilton					21			650
27	25	She's Got It - Little Richard (B)					29	12		605
NEW	26	Little Darlin' - The Diamonds					22			585
18	26	I'm Walkin' - Fats Domino					22			585
23	28	Mangos - Rosemary Clooney					24			455
22	29	Why Baby Why - Pat Boone					25			390
RE	30	The World Is Mine - Malcolm Vaughan					26			325
		A White Sport Coat - Terry Dene						20		275
		A White Sport Coat - The King Brothers					27			260
		Around The World - Mantovani					27			260
		Streamline Train - The Vipers Skiffle Group					30			65
21		Heart - Max Bygraves
24		Party Doll - Buddy Knox
28		Love Is A Golden Ring - Frankie Laine

[MrTibbs]

Great to see this historic project continuing, and that all is well with Mr Tibbs.

First appearance of Peggy Lee. But she'd had hits in the USA since 1941, so is she featured in the Colin Brown book?

Peggy Lee, without a doubt one of the all time greats !
Thanks splodj for the welcome back.

[Splodj]

Thanks. And maybe some 'bubbling unders' since then, so not as 'out of the blue' as it may appear.

[kingofskiffle]

She is

5 recordings

1949 Mar 7 Don't Smoke In Bed
1949 Jun 13 Riders In The Sky (A Cowboy Legend)
1950 Apr 3 Sunshine Cake
1951 Dec 10 The Christmas Spell / Song At Midnight
And with Dean Martin
1949 Apr 4 You Was / Powder Your Face With Sunshine

[Splodj]

Great to see this historic project continuing, and that all is well with Mr Tibbs.

First appearance of Peggy Lee. But she'd had hits in the USA since 1941, so is she featured in the Colin Brown book?

[kjell]

Good to have you back, I was starting to get worried. By the way, you may use capital K since Kjell is in fact the first of my two first names. Guess work problems will disappear at retirement, but it took me nine months to get used to not working after reaching the age limit. Some habits die hard.

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending May 25th 1957

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 25th 1957							NME	MM	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey			Stores	65	25	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart					TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Butterfly - Andy Williams					1	1	1	4500
2	2	Rock-A-Billy - Guy Mitchell					2	2	2	4350
5	3	Yes Tonight Josephine - Johnnie Ray					3	3	3	4200
3	4	When I Fall In Love - Nat King Cole					4	4	4	4050
11	5	I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Slim Whitman					7	5	5	3770
4	6	Cumberland Gap - Lonnie Donegan					5	7	8	3670
6	7	Baby Baby - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (B)					8	6	6	3620
8	8	Too Much - Elvis Presley					9	7	7	3470
7	9	Ninety-Nine Ways - Tab Hunter					6	10	10	3410
9	10	Freight Train - The Chas McDevitt Skiffle Group with Nancy Whiskey					10	9	9	3235
20	11	Butterfingers - Tommy Steele					13	12	11	2845
10	12	The Banana Boat Song - Harry Belafonte					11	17	13	2730
16	13	Butterfly - Charlie Gracie					12	17	14	2605
NEW	14	Mr. Wonderful - Peggy Lee					15		12	2180
18	15	Chapel Of The Roses - Malcolm Vaughan					14	17	19	2175
12	16	Look Homeward Angel - Johnnie Ray					18	14	18	2050
14	17	Long Tall Sally - Little Richard					24	11	16	1855
22	18	I'm Walkin' - Fats Domino					24		15	1415
15	19	The Girl Can't Help It - Little Richard (A)					27	12	20	1395
NEW	20	Around The World - Ronnie Hilton					16			975
19	21	Heart - Max Bygraves					22	16		960
17	22	Why Baby Why - Pat Boone					21	20		925
28	23	Mangos - Rosemary Clooney					17			910
NEW	24	Party Doll - Buddy Knox					30		17	905
13	25	Young Love - Tab Hunter					19			780
NEW	26	Around The World - Bing Crosby					20			715
RE	27	She's Got It - Little Richard (B)					28	15		595
23	28	Love Is A Golden Ring - Frankie Laine					23			520
29	29	I'm Sorry - The Platters					26			325
NEW	30	We Will Make Love - Russ Hamilton					29			130
26		True Love - Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly					30			65
21		I'm Not A Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (A)
24		Don't Forbid Me - Pat Boone
25		Marianne - The Hilltoppers
27		Norah Malone - Teresa Brewer
30		Singing The Blues - Tommy Steele

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending May 18th 1957

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 18th 1957							NME	MM	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey			Stores	65	25	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart					TOP	30	Scored
2	1	Butterfly - Andy Williams					2	1	1	4435
3	2	Rock-A-Billy - Guy Mitchell					1	2	2	4415
8	3	When I Fall In Love - Nat King Cole					3	4	3	4175
1	4	Cumberland Gap - Lonnie Donegan					4	3	5	4015
11	5	Yes Tonight Josephine - Johnnie Ray					6	6	4	3870
4	6	Baby Baby - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (B)					5	5	6	3840
6	7	Ninety-Nine Ways - Tab Hunter					7	7	8	3540
15	8	Too Much - Elvis Presley					10	8	7	3380
7	9	Freight Train - The Chas McDevitt Skiffle Group with Nancy Whiskey					9	11	10	3190
5	10	The Banana Boat Song - Harry Belafonte					8	12	11	3170
9	11	I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Slim Whitman					11	9	9	3170
13	12	Look Homeward Angel - Johnnie Ray					13	9	12	2860
10	13	Young Love - Tab Hunter					12	13	15	2645
12	14	Long Tall Sally - Little Richard					14	14	13	2610
14	15	The Girl Can't Help It - Little Richard (A)					15	17	14	2410
25	16	Butterfly - Charlie Gracie					17	19	19	1930
21	17	Why Baby Why - Pat Boone					21	15	17	1890
17	18	Chapel Of The Roses - Malcolm Vaughan					16		16	1875
19	19	Heart - Max Bygraves					18	16		1220
26	20	Butterfingers - Tommy Steele					19	18		1105
20	21	I'm Not A Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (A)						20	18	1055
18	22	I'm Walkin' - Fats Domino					25		20	1050
22	23	Love Is A Golden Ring - Frankie Laine					19			780
16	24	Don't Forbid Me - Pat Boone					22			585
30	25	Marianne - The Hilltoppers					23			520
24	26	True Love - Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly					24			455
NEW	27	Norah Malone - Teresa Brewer					26			325
28	28	Mangos - Rosemary Clooney					27			260
NEW	29	I'm Sorry - The Platters					28			195
RE	30	Singing The Blues - Tommy Steele					29			130
		Party Doll - Buddy Knox					30			65
23		She's Got It - Little Richard (B)
27		Don't You Rock Me Daddy-O - Lonnie Donegan
29		Only You - The Platters

[MrTibbs]

Greetings Pop Pickers !

Here is the next Ultimate Averaged Chart for Week Ending May 11th 1957

Here are all '' the uppers, the downers, the just hanging 'arounders '

The Ultimate Averaged Chart - Week Ending May 11th 1957							NME	MM	RM	Total
Last	This		The Sound Survey			Stores	65	25	60	Points
Week	Week		The Top 30 Singles Chart					TOP	30	Scored
1	1	Cumberland Gap - Lonnie Donegan					1	1	2	4440
8	2	Butterfly - Andy Williams					2	2	1	4410
6	3	Rock-A-Billy - Guy Mitchell					3	4	3	4175
3	4	Baby Baby - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (B)					5	3	4	4010
2	5	The Banana Boat Song - Harry Belafonte					3	5	6	3970
7	6	Ninety-Nine Ways - Tab Hunter					6	9	5	3735
14	7	Freight Train - The Chas McDevitt Skiffle Group with Nancy Whiskey					7	12	8	3415
10	8	When I Fall In Love - Nat King Cole					9	11	7	3370
12	9	I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen - Slim Whitman					11	5	9	3270
4	10	Young Love - Tab Hunter					10	5	11	3215
NEW	11	Yes Tonight Josephine - Johnnie Ray					8	14	12	3060
5	12	Long Tall Sally - Little Richard					14	8	10	2940
9	13	Look Homeward Angel - Johnnie Ray					12	10	13	2840
13	14	The Girl Can't Help It - Little Richard (A)					15	13	14	2510
NEW	15	Too Much - Elvis Presley					13	16	15	2505
11	16	Don't Forbid Me - Pat Boone					19	16	17	1995
NEW	17	Chapel Of The Roses - Malcolm Vaughan					18		18	1625
20	18	I'm Walkin' - Fats Domino					22		16	1485
19	19	Heart - Max Bygraves					16	18		1300
15	20	I'm Not A Juvenile Delinquent - Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers (A)					23		19	1240
27	21	Why Baby Why - Pat Boone					17	19		1210
16	22	Love Is A Golden Ring - Frankie Laine					20			715
25	23	She's Got It - Little Richard (B)							20	660
18	24	True Love - Bing Crosby and Grace Kelly					21			650
22	25	Butterfly - Charlie Gracie					24			455
17	26	Butterfingers - Tommy Steele						15		400
23	27	Don't You Rock Me Daddy-O - Lonnie Donegan					25			390
26	28	Mangos - Rosemary Clooney					26			325
RE	29	Only You - The Platters						20		275
28	30	Marianne - The Hilltoppers					27			260
		Norah Malone - Teresa Brewer					28			195
		Party Doll - Buddy Knox					29			130
30		The World Is Mine - Malcolm Vaughan					30			65
21		Knee Deep In The Blues - Guy Mitchell
24		Singing The Blues - Guy Mitchell
29		Heart - The Johnston Brothers

[MrTibbs]

I'm back !

I have deleted the wrongly dated posted chart mentioned above guys by 'brain'. So here is the missing chart for 11th May, then the charts for 18th May and a new posted chart for May 25th.

Brian

[braindeadpj]

Sorry the message posted twice, I got an error the first time so tried again.....

[braindeadpj]

Glad everything is OK with you Mr Tibbs. Sorry to hear that work got so busy due to COVID, though its good things are now improving. Stay safe and thank you for your work on the front line.
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the Ultimate Averaged Charts.

[kingofskiffle]

Glad you're okay. Hope things continue to improve, work wise.

[MrTibbs]

Hi guys and thanks brain, Lonnie, Ronnie and kjell for thoughtfully enquiring if all is well both here and in private message.
I'm happy to report that all is well with me personally but over the past week (because I'm a nurse in these difficult times ) I've had to put my shoulder to the wheel and do lots of extra shifts to cover for colleagues falling like dominoes with covid.

But thankfully this has now eased considerably so I can get back to normal with my posts again starting tomorrow. I will post the correct chart mentioned above that I omitted and the next one due as well.

[kjell]

I’ve been thinking he’s taken a well deserved holiday just as I do sometimes. Hope you haven’t been attacked by the pandemic Brian?

[Robbie]

Yes, I'd noticed all had gone quiet in the thread. I hope everything is OK MrTibbs.

[kingofskiffle]

Just checking that everything is continuing here, as no posts for a week. I hope you're okay MrTibbs.

[braindeadpj]

Hello Mr Tibbs, I just realized that you have posted the 18th May Chart instead of the 11th May chart, so we're missing the 11th May chart. (It says the 11th above it and 18th within it and Butterfly was at 8 on the last chart you posted for the 4th May on the previous page).

[membranemusic]

For your info, the Music Business Weekly Top 50 was published in the same week as the MM Top 30, which was the reason I stopped taking the MM for a while. Sadly I sold my copies in one of those life-changing decisions we all face!

[MrTibbs]

Thanks again braindeadpj for repeatedly taking the time to like every posted UAC. Your gesture in doing so is much appreciated

[Splodj]

Rock-a-Billy is the 2nd of 6 NME number ones that only it placed at the top in the 56-59 period. The first 3 when there were 2 other charts, the other 3 when there were 3 other charts.

[MrTibbs]

I agree Brian, especially since the unreliability of the NME has been thoroughly disclosed. Contrary to former belief it seems RM had the most reliable chart during the later half of the 50ies. When the pandemic fog clears in BL we’ll be able to extend the RM chart of these years and compare the first year of top 50 RR charts with the extended RM. This may mean a major late 50ies breakthrough and a better evaluation of the early RR.

I'm really quite excited about that future project kjell. A mammoth exercise though, hugely time consuming taking around 60 returns single handedly, calculating them, and then producing a Top Fifty chart. That said I think it's going to produce a really exciting and interesting chart for a number of comparisons especially as the RM sample of 60 will be almost double what RR were using at the time for their Top 50.

[kjell]

I agree Brian, especially since the unreliability of the NME has been thoroughly disclosed. Contrary to former belief it seems RM had the most reliable chart during the later half of the 50ies. When the pandemic fog clears in BL we’ll be able to extend the RM chart of these years and compare the first year of top 50 RR charts with the extended RM. This may mean a major late 50ies breakthrough and a better evaluation of the early RR.

[Splodj]

For some time Music Week in addition to their top 75 singles had 25 unranked bubblers weekly. I didn’t like that because it meant something to me whether a bubbler from a favourite artist was near the 75th position or near the 100th. I feel the same about the 31 - 50 area. I like to know the estimated position because there’s more interesting info in a 31 position than in a 50, even if I know that they both are not accurate. A 31 that maybe is really a 33 or 34 is a better approximation than a 50 that maybe really is a 46 or 54.

I was not keen on the bubblers concept either. I would prefer to see the next level not only in order but also unfiltered - i.e. not someone else choosing which ones to show.